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clone troopers they could never make me hate you
Man, as much as I love sweet headcanons and found family fics about the Batch accepting Echo and supporting him through his adjustment and PTSD/trauma, gotta remember that what we were actually given in canon is this:
Hunter: Me and the boys will tag along anyway, if only to say I told you so. Crosshair: I would have left him for dead too. Besides, he's just another reg. (his rescue was just a mission for them, wouldn't have done it otherwise)
Tech: To be blunt his mind belonged to the Separatists until we unplugged him. We don't really know where his loyalties lie. Rex: Yeah? Well I know. Hunter: Alright Echo what are you trying to pull? Tech: How do we know that's what you're really going to do? Hunter: Well I guess you actually are on our side. (They openly doubt his loyalty, even though they saw what he went through, and he already fought alongside them on Skako. Feels kinda victim-blamey to me, and it's odd that it goes straight from this to him joining them, like he had to prove himself worthy first? It's just the opposite of fanon which usually has the Batch sympathize immediately and assume the regs would distrust him)
Tech: You are more machine than man, percentage wise at least. Echo, a triple amputee: *sigh* lucky me...
Palpatine: ...the attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed Wrecker: You can say that again! Echo, a physically disabled person:
Echo, who was medically experimented on: *injured and having a panic attack in the medbay* The Batch: *off somewhere joking/betting about if he’s dead*
Tech: -from the Citadel rescue when you... how shall I put this? Wrecker: Blew up!! :D Crosshair: And turned into that Echo: *sigh* yes
Random stranger: *mistakes Echo for a droid* Hunter: *smiles and goes along with it for the credits* Echo, who was SOLD and dehumanized as a pow: *visibly uncomfortable* Hunter: Echo, go to your new owner.
Echo, who was treated like property by the Techno Union: *explains why slavery is wrong* And we are gonna stop it from happening to that kid. Tech: As well as earn a decent amount of credits once the job is complete. Echo: (bitterly) yeah, that too *leaves the room*
Tech: The client being a Separatist is not relevant. Echo, who was imprisoned and tortured by Separatists for over a year: It is to me! Hunter: Forget politics! We're here to do a job.
Tech: This squad existed before Echo was a part of it, and it will exist after.
For the record, yes people can and do joke about their trauma and disabilities
But look at Echo’s reactions/tone/body language in these scenes. It’s downcast sighs and discomfort, while the others are smiling, sneering, or dismissive. And because it's animated that means that every facial expression was intentionally designed.
What really clinches it for me is this moment:
Omega, a child who he just met, comforts him and helps him through his panic attack. But when the Batch, his squad who he's been living with for at least ~6 months, comes into the room he visibly closes himself off and hides his vulnerability :(
There are good moments too (though tbh i can't think of many)
I don't wanna discount that, but that doesn't discount this either. And it's just really weird when you think about it. Like half of these were in the first episode, which is the first time we are actually seeing how these characters interact together as a squad. And this is coming from the "defective" clones who supposedly know what it's like to not fit in? Who offered Echo a place with them specifically because they thought he wouldn't be accepted by others?
As with anything, there are ways we can read into or explain these moments (like honestly 'selling' your brother or betting that your brother died by lunch tray is very accurate sibling energy (And my personal headcanon (to reconcile it for myself bc the show didn't) is that Wrecker was worried about Echo so Crosshair jokingly exaggerated that he was dead and turned it into an argument/bet to distract him (which is also why I think he turns battles into a game/competition with Wrecker)) but Echo is very traumatized and there's a complete lack of consideration there). But that doesn't excuse it nor does it change the fact that this is what was presented to us in the writing. Characters aren't actually people (shocking I know lol), so any of their 'choices' are actually made by a real-life writer. And whether the implications of these moments were fully considered/intended or not, it still portrays the characters and their attitudes/relationships in a certain way.
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phainon is such a brilliantly written character. to the end he relies on others— made up of people's praise and aspirations. he repeatedly calls himself a soldier, claims he cannot waver, but everyone just keeps proving him wrong. every cycle he has to collect himself with his imaginary hero in his heart. and when aglaea passes she entrusts the future of amphoreus to him, he's not just a soldier he becomes a leader. a leader who is extremely skilled at public speaking at that.
he makes me laugh really: if you were just a soldier did you think they'd give you the metaphorical keys to okhema? he can only ever acknowledge his personhood when others push him to. it is only because of aglaea's praise in her last letter to him that he regains his wit and composes himself to continue forward.
he always puts himself down: "if mydei was here..." "if anaxa was here..." but these people would not have fought by his side if they thought he was just mindlessly trudging through, following orders. he is constantly surrounded by love and care, he knows he is only kind because of everyone. that tribbie has nurtured that kindness in him. he knows if he forgets his humanity, then truly, he will embody destruction.
it is only because of others he is the deliverer, but it also because of others he is able to retain whatever shred of heart he has left. he is a shell for everyone to stuff their dreams into, but it is because of those dreams he can cling onto love. even if he can no longer weep, even if he knows exactly what they'll say next, he reaches up to himself and asks him to never bow to THEM.
all that love transpired in a singular act. an act of rebellion that burns with the millions of coreflames he took upon killing everyone who had loved him. dreams pushed unto tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, for 33,550,336 million cycles.
if you had any hope of breaking me, you should have spent those endless cycles refining your rhetoric. you had infinite chances to sway me into the future you want... and yet here we are. the score: 33,550,336 to 0. so tell me, lycurgus-- who's the real loser here?
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Do not... Bow your head to THEM.
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