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[oacest]

Gem : Before starting Beady Eye we have listed all the things that didn't work anymore with Oasis. Without trying to hide the truth from us. And what was wrong were the way too long tours, always going to the same hotels and same stadium/venues. Slowly bur surely these things make you lose your flame a musician. Your actions become automatic. You can't build a career in the rock industry if you're only releasing an album every 3 years and if you're always going to the same venues. Even if we're not 20 anymore, rock'n'roll still is something exciting, something dangerous, something that you do with your friends. I think that this Beady Eye album has taught us the basics again : simple rock songs, urgency and modesty.

Andy : The starting point was not to make the same mistakes we'd done at the end of Oasis. Money and success aren't the central interest with Beady Eye. I think we'd rather play in smaller venues from now on. Though Liam insisted that we have a say on everything, the album artwork, the music videos, the touring plans. He wanted to re-instore a democracy long gone.

R&F : Liam Gallagher, a democrat ?

Liam : I don't want that the people playing with me feel frustrated in any ways. Oasis was mainly about me and Noel. Beady Eye is a collective. A hippy thing if you want. If tomorrow, one of the band member comes to me and says 'Liam? I'd like to wear some fucking black sunglasses in our new video', I'd tell him, 'Alright mate, no problem, do what you want. You've as many rights as me'. It's not a democracy, it's an organised anarchy, you know what I mean ? I believe in organised anarchy. The chaos.

-Rock&Folk, Feb 2011 (translated)

[blarghafell]

Just to make a comment about Liam’s full-throated support of Justin Bieber. His support of a guy who was oversexualized as an adolescent speaks volumes to me. This is something important to him. Combined with the accentuation of how men are not outside of the sexualization of the entertainment industry (his comments on Weinstein), his support of this kid is fucking telling. He knows what this is like and is full-on supporting him.

[blarghafell]

Joy and joy and joy Spain won. The dancers of ball passing. Holy shit. They deserved it.

[blarghafell]

Spain bench deeper than the Marianna trench

[blarghafell]

Taking a moment during halftime to say how fucking delighted and over the moon I am to have so many moots into this World Cup and basically live blogging it. As a US American, I don’t have a lot of ppl here to do this with. No one gives a shit. Well, not no one. But not many. So chuffed that my dearest brotherfucking contingent are the ones taking this ride with me ❤️❤️❤️

[blarghafell]

Robbie Williams???? Singing at the final? Oh man I want to see the brothers faces!!!!

[chippersonofabitch]

From Iain Robertson's book OASIS What's the Story? On Tour

[yesimbeatle]

liam gets asked if he’s a tough dad by an interviewer in 2017 and responds by saying he regularly asks his sons if they’re gay

[blarghafell]

The English coach needs to give his head a wobble. For the life of me I cannot understand the decisions he took in the second half.

They had 30 minutes to go with a 1 nil lead and the coach basically takes off the strikers and puts on these tall lurch-like defenders. Which is definitely a move you wanna make if there’s like 10 minutes left. But…you want to play solely defense against Argentina for the next half hour with Messi and company on total offense? Make it make sense.

[blarghafell]

We knew the brothers had experienced domestic violence and the results of the dad cheating, but when the Paul accusations came out I started to wonder if there was also sexual violence in the house that became normalized. And now I’m back wondering about that because, as so many pointed out, Noel’s appearance at that match with his boys goes beyond a blasé attitude. It’s a willful minimization of sexual violence. ///

Exactly exactly I've been thinking about this, too. I've always had a strong feeling that they must have experienced/witnessed sexual violence at home. Maybe it could explain their messed-up relationship better too. Not just the incestuous side of it, I'm more talking about their weird power dynamics and comments about each other, ykwim. Like Noel taking digs at Liam by feminising his existence and god that one quote alone, where he says that he loves making women cry and loves making his brother cry too because it makes him look like a woman, it gets me genuinely nauseous. Ugh. It's all very frustrating.

Liam mentioned in some interview back in…had to be around 97, that his dad caned his mom. Wish I could find it. A caning doesn’t automatically mean there was a sexual element to his violence, but it’s definitely associated with that type of thing more than a plain beating is.

As far as the weird power dynamics go. Ugh. Your comment about making his brother cry is kiiiiiilling me. I’m familiar with it but…what a thing to say. In particular “I love making women cry and knowing I was the one what did it.” It’s like he already said he loves it. Why the need for “knowing I was the one that did it?” It’s like he wants it out there clear that it’s a power thing. It’s not because it’s cute. In case we weren’t sure.

There’s like 5 things he connects in two sentences and it’s all bad. 1) He likes making women cry. 2) Crying is woman behavior 3) displaying feminine behavior is humiliating 4) he enjoys seeing his brother humiliated 5) he plays similar mind games with his brother as he plays with women

Has anyone ever put that Noel quote side-by-side with Liam’s “take me when I start to cry”?

[blarghafell]

It‘s not a surprise, is it, when you look at the way they grew up. Their dad beating them and their mum, cheating all the time and fathering children with another woman. The three brothers might hate their dad but they can‘t escape their upringing and repeat his actions. It‘s sad, really.

Yeah, it’s tragic. I wouldn’t say that any of them are exactly like the dad, but they all got a slice from the shit pie, didn’t they. We knew the brothers had experienced domestic violence and the results of the dad cheating, but when the Paul accusations came out I started to wonder if there was also sexual violence in the house that became normalized. And now I’m back wondering about that because, as so many pointed out, Noel’s appearance at that match with his boys goes beyond a blasé attitude. It’s a willful minimization of sexual violence. Idk how to interpret it any other way. Bringing his kids like they’re debutantes at the sexual abusers’ ball. I saw the attendee roll call and I’m like “I guess Marilyn Manson had another engagement that night.” Next thought was “oh yeah. Noel liked that guy, too.”

[blarghafell]

half pass for liam? Theres literally a clip of him choking Debbie lol. They're both terrible people

I was talking about support for sexual abusers. Liam doesn’t seem to have consistent support for sexual abusers in his portfolio. As far as physical violence goes, I’ve gotten a decent amount of stick in the past for arguing that Liam is, in fact, a violent person. You won’t find any argument against that from me.

[spinalrecoil]

i might just be amped up/pissed off but their support of rapists and abusers often feels more than just selfish to me (i.e. who cares what type of person this man is/what they do privately, i want to enjoy their talents separately from that/they are my friend/brother, etc). it feels actively vindictive and stubborn and indulgently hateful of women. they don't just not care about the dignity of women, they're resentful of the idea of it bc of how much they've sucked ass at having relationships with women and then had to literally pay for it. and it disgusts me.

[blarghafell]

Maybe I’m just American, but I’ve not heard such a blistering assessment of a winning team as the one given by the German coach of England. Holy shit. If they’d lost, I guess he’d have them taken out and shot.

[schrodingersincest]

He literally believes in his brother so much 😭 *Noely G voice* this is Liam’s destiny and I’ll do anything in my power to make it come true for him

[blarghafell]

I know that WE, in the year of our lord 2026, understand that top does not equal dom and bottom does not equal sub, but I’m not too sure that the Manchester goslings of 1995 understood that.

[dem-scissors]

[blarghafell]

One of the most “telling on himself” verses Noel has written imo. Leave out the “hiding” line and it makes perfect narrative sense. The hiding part is almost jarring. Why does he go there? Why make this nostalgia secretive? What has to be hidden behind blinding light (the sun)?

There’s also a possible reference to (of all fucking things) Perry Como’s song “Catch A Falling Star.”

“Catch a falling star and put it in your pocket

Never let it fade away

Catch a falling star and put it in your pocket

Save it for a rainy day

For love may come and tap you on the shoulder

Some starless night

Just in case you feel you wanna hold her

You'll have a pocketful of starlight”

Which, with any other rock star, I’d be like probably not, but this guy listens to Burt Bacharach.