Musings without Muses

“How can I use rain to slag off white people?”

“White people are the only ethnicity with a history of bloodshed and conquest!” said the woman of African descent.

cheshireinthemiddle

You can make fun of white people for anything apparently.

This idiotic person- @antelopian - reacted to a text of mine about the evils of early capitalism calling me “sad and stupid tankie”. When I asked him to explain how he understands the term “tankie” and why would I be a “tankie” he gave me a confused answer, accusing me that I ”defend communism”.

Now, I read in his self-presentation that he posts mainly when he is high, but also that he is a South-African living in the US. I understand therefore better his position and his passion against “tankies” and every person like me suspect of pro-”tankie” sympathies : it is well known how much the majority of the population of S. Africa suffered under communism - and not under some racist, brutal and exploitative capitalist system of White supremacy known as apartheid…

To speak seriously, one can accuse the communists (”tankies”, according to @antelopian’s terminology) of many things, the truth is however that more generally and especially in S. Africa they had a clear position against White supremacy and racial segregation/hierarchisation and they paid the price for it - in the notorious prisons and torture chambers or even on the gallows of the apartheid regime. Moreover the historical truth is that the military mission of the communist Cuba in Angola played a positive role in stopping the aggression and expansion of the sphere of influence of the White supremacist regime and thus contributed to the fall of the latter.

These are historical facts recognized by all the leaders of the fight against the inhumane apartheid system. Should I suppose that @antelopian’ s anti-communist passion and his readiness to characterize as “tankie” every person criticizing capitalism goes hand in hand with some nostalgy for the “old good days” of the White dominated, apartheid S. Africa ? This would be very much in tune with the “sensibilities” of many American right-wingers…

From my other -mostly political - blog @greek2019.

I think you forgot your meds again. This isn’t even the right post.

“Genius”, is it so difficult for you to think that there are cases on this site that one cannot reblog and reply to a particular post, for instance if the original poster of the thread has blocked the person who wants to reply ? What happened here is that antelopian has attacked me in the terms that I have described above, but I could not reply to him because the original poster of the thread - an idiot with the username antifashaming- had meanwhile blocked me. So I have chosen one of the other posts in the blog of antilopean, I reblogged it and I said what I had to say about him. But why is all this your business ?

generallemarc

Sir this is an Arby’s

Another right-winger highly skilled in refutation of opponents with arguments. And moreover obviously one who has some obsession with his “arby’s”, I don’t know for what reason…

dashaibo

I’m a Russian living in Russia and I hate communism, including our modern government led by a KGB agent. Now what?

The characterization of apartheid as primarily a capitalist system is interesting.

apartheid was placed over decades, to stop the various African tribes within South Africa ( which was as you asserted a colonial nation) from slaughtering each other with Gay abandon.

While it can be argued that the system was racist, unfair and arbitrary, it significantly cut down on the racial/tribal violence which increased sharply as apartheid was removed. it settled down for a while but is climbing again, now with Whites as the oppressed victim class ( but why should we care about them)

I am glad apartheid was ended. Any prejudgment of people base solely on their race or heritage is Inherently evil. I am pretty sure the current kleptocracy in South Africa is not a better answer.

“Apartheid was placed over decades, to stop the various African tribes within South Africa…from slaughtering each other”

“While it can be argued that the system was racist, unfair and arbitrary, it significantly cut down on the racial/tribal violence which increased sharply as apartheid was removed…now with the Whites as the oppressed victim class”

“I am pretty sure the current kleptocracy in South Africa is not a better answer [than apartheid]”.

LOL. Such a soft apology and justification of apartheid, with a good dose of hypocrisy. (”I am glad apartheid had ended”-obviously). Apparently apartheid’s main motive was pacification of the tribes, not White supremacist racism and the exploitation of the Black population as cheap workforce by the White South African capitalist class. And its result was a beneficial but alas temporary stop of the murderous andself-destructive violence of these barbaric tribes, not the creation of the structural oppression, marginalization and exploitation of the Black population there. And for sure the minority of rich White farmers- whose ancestors had expropriated through force the major part of the land belonging to the ‘slaughtering each other tribes”- are now the oppressed ones in South Africa, as the legitimacy of their titles on this land is contested by the majority of the population. Excellent !

so, In short it’s OK to suppress and harass a minority as long as it’s the right minority.

Nice hypocrisy you got there.

It is not OK to harass any minority, even if this minority has an oppressive past. Life must move forward.

But I don’t consider that there is harassment when the majority wants back its land that it had lost to the minority under constraint.

So again seizing private property from a minority is fine as long as it’s the majority you want things seized from.

The people that were dispossessed didn’t seize the land, they are third or fourth generation. This is not Justice is just another robbery, benefiting a different group you just like this one.

Do you think ur gonna be a billionaire one day lmao

No, I have not made the necessary sacrifices, nor the correct life choices.

And even if I had it requires luck.

What is having shit eating brain worms like day to day.

You’d have to tell me.

lol who do you consider parasites?

People who demand that they be provided for without producing.

Poeple who use the word rights when they meen needs.

People who demand the wealth that others have accumulated be “re-distributed” that is stolen and given to someone else.

For instance.

neccesity is the mother of invention not capital/profit but go off i guess.

Cute theory,

And there is some reality to it, but once you have the idea, then what? How do you build and market said idea? How do you engineer the fabrication process so it scales and is economical, such that other people can afford to buy the thing you’ve invented.

All those things require money/resources/ other experts. That is to say Capital.

But be ignorant, I guess.

Thomas is right billionaires are a growing parasitic class devoid of value that exist at the expense of those who produce.

Wow, have to be honest not sure whether to mock or actually address all the stupid that got packed into a single sentence.

The notion that billionaires, persons with concentrated wealth are inherently parasitic is so completely and fundamentally wrong, I am not sure where to start on correcting it.

First, someone who possess major wealth and can and does remunerate others for everything they receive, cannot, by definition, be parasitic.

OH, I bet you have that utterly ignorant concept that without capital somehow there would still be all these wonderful technical innovations and progress.... Yeah, no.

In order for there to be technological progress there must be accumulation of capital such that there is sufficient excess to allow risk. Said risk is not always rewarded but when it is the benefits of the risk remain with the person who owned the capital to be placed at risk. Thus wealth accumulated with those who are skillful, diligent and lucky.

To be fair there are a lot of rapacious bastards out there amongst Billionaires. There are sometimes awful people, pushing political change to benefit themselves, ( Koch Brothers and Soros being two examples at the extreme ends of the spectrum ).

This notion of billionaires as a scrouge McDuck with a giant swimming pool of money they dive into is just stupid. Most billionaires fortunes are tied up in the stock of the companies they founded, and are not liquid assets( money that can be spent).

This has been an episode of School House Rock sans music.

trump4moreyears

“How can I use rain to slag off white people?”

“White people are the only ethnicity with a history of bloodshed and conquest!” said the woman of African descent.

cheshireinthemiddle

You can make fun of white people for anything apparently.

This idiotic person- @antelopian - reacted to a text of mine about the evils of early capitalism calling me “sad and stupid tankie”. When I asked him to explain how he understands the term “tankie” and why would I be a “tankie” he gave me a confused answer, accusing me that I ”defend communism”.

Now, I read in his self-presentation that he posts mainly when he is high, but also that he is a South-African living in the US. I understand therefore better his position and his passion against “tankies” and every person like me suspect of pro-”tankie” sympathies : it is well known how much the majority of the population of S. Africa suffered under communism - and not under some racist, brutal and exploitative capitalist system of White supremacy known as apartheid…

To speak seriously, one can accuse the communists (”tankies”, according to @antelopian’s terminology) of many things, the truth is however that more generally and especially in S. Africa they had a clear position against White supremacy and racial segregation/hierarchisation and they paid the price for it - in the notorious prisons and torture chambers or even on the gallows of the apartheid regime. Moreover the historical truth is that the military mission of the communist Cuba in Angola played a positive role in stopping the aggression and expansion of the sphere of influence of the White supremacist regime and thus contributed to the fall of the latter.

These are historical facts recognized by all the leaders of the fight against the inhumane apartheid system. Should I suppose that @antelopian’ s anti-communist passion and his readiness to characterize as “tankie” every person criticizing capitalism goes hand in hand with some nostalgy for the “old good days” of the White dominated, apartheid S. Africa ? This would be very much in tune with the “sensibilities” of many American right-wingers…

From my other -mostly political - blog @greek2019.

I think you forgot your meds again. This isn’t even the right post.

“Genius”, is it so difficult for you to think that there are cases on this site that one cannot reblog and reply to a particular post, for instance if the original poster of the thread has blocked the person who wants to reply ? What happened here is that antelopian has attacked me in the terms that I have described above, but I could not reply to him because the original poster of the thread - an idiot with the username antifashaming- had meanwhile blocked me. So I have chosen one of the other posts in the blog of antilopean, I reblogged it and I said what I had to say about him. But why is all this your business ?

generallemarc

Sir this is an Arby’s

Another right-winger highly skilled in refutation of opponents with arguments. And moreover obviously one who has some obsession with his “arby’s”, I don’t know for what reason…

dashaibo

I’m a Russian living in Russia and I hate communism, including our modern government led by a KGB agent. Now what?

The characterization of apartheid as primarily a capitalist system is interesting.

apartheid was placed over decades, to stop the various African tribes within South Africa ( which was as you asserted a colonial nation) from slaughtering each other with Gay abandon.

While it can be argued that the system was racist, unfair and arbitrary, it significantly cut down on the racial/tribal violence which increased sharply as apartheid was removed. it settled down for a while but is climbing again, now with Whites as the oppressed victim class ( but why should we care about them)

I am glad apartheid was ended. Any prejudgment of people base solely on their race or heritage is Inherently evil. I am pretty sure the current kleptocracy in South Africa is not a better answer.

“Apartheid was placed over decades, to stop the various African tribes within South Africa…from slaughtering each other”

“While it can be argued that the system was racist, unfair and arbitrary, it significantly cut down on the racial/tribal violence which increased sharply as apartheid was removed…now with the Whites as the oppressed victim class”

“I am pretty sure the current kleptocracy in South Africa is not a better answer [than apartheid]”.

LOL. Such a soft apology and justification of apartheid, with a good dose of hypocrisy. (”I am glad apartheid had ended”-obviously). Apparently apartheid’s main motive was pacification of the tribes, not White supremacist racism and the exploitation of the Black population as cheap workforce by the White South African capitalist class. And its result was a beneficial but alas temporary stop of the murderous andself-destructive violence of these barbaric tribes, not the creation of the structural oppression, marginalization and exploitation of the Black population there. And for sure the minority of rich White farmers- whose ancestors had expropriated through force the major part of the land belonging to the ‘slaughtering each other tribes”- are now the oppressed ones in South Africa, as the legitimacy of their titles on this land is contested by the majority of the population. Excellent !

so, In short it’s OK to suppress and harass a minority as long as it’s the right minority.

Nice hypocrisy you got there.

“How can I use rain to slag off white people?”

“White people are the only ethnicity with a history of bloodshed and conquest!” said the woman of African descent.

cheshireinthemiddle

You can make fun of white people for anything apparently.

This idiotic person- @antelopian - reacted to a text of mine about the evils of early capitalism calling me “sad and stupid tankie”. When I asked him to explain how he understands the term “tankie” and why would I be a “tankie” he gave me a confused answer, accusing me that I ”defend communism”.

Now, I read in his self-presentation that he posts mainly when he is high, but also that he is a South-African living in the US. I understand therefore better his position and his passion against “tankies” and every person like me suspect of pro-”tankie” sympathies : it is well known how much the majority of the population of S. Africa suffered under communism - and not under some racist, brutal and exploitative capitalist system of White supremacy known as apartheid…

To speak seriously, one can accuse the communists (”tankies”, according to @antelopian’s terminology) of many things, the truth is however that more generally and especially in S. Africa they had a clear position against White supremacy and racial segregation/hierarchisation and they paid the price for it - in the notorious prisons and torture chambers or even on the gallows of the apartheid regime. Moreover the historical truth is that the military mission of the communist Cuba in Angola played a positive role in stopping the aggression and expansion of the sphere of influence of the White supremacist regime and thus contributed to the fall of the latter.

These are historical facts recognized by all the leaders of the fight against the inhumane apartheid system. Should I suppose that @antelopian’ s anti-communist passion and his readiness to characterize as “tankie” every person criticizing capitalism goes hand in hand with some nostalgy for the “old good days” of the White dominated, apartheid S. Africa ? This would be very much in tune with the “sensibilities” of many American right-wingers…

From my other -mostly political - blog @greek2019.

I think you forgot your meds again. This isn’t even the right post.

“Genius”, is it so difficult for you to think that there are cases on this site that one cannot reblog and reply to a particular post, for instance if the original poster of the thread has blocked the person who wants to reply ? What happened here is that antelopian has attacked me in the terms that I have described above, but I could not reply to him because the original poster of the thread - an idiot with the username antifashaming- had meanwhile blocked me. So I have chosen one of the other posts in the blog of antilopean, I reblogged it and I said what I had to say about him. But why is all this your business ?

generallemarc

Sir this is an Arby’s

Another right-winger highly skilled in refutation of opponents with arguments. And moreover obviously one who has some obsession with his “arby’s”, I don’t know for what reason…

dashaibo

I’m a Russian living in Russia and I hate communism, including our modern government led by a KGB agent. Now what?

frognonbinary-deactivated202412

The characterization of apartheid as primarily a capitalist system is interesting.

apartheid was placed over decades, to stop the various African tribes within South Africa ( which was as you asserted a colonial nation) from slaughtering each other with Gay abandon.

While it can be argued that the system was racist, unfair and arbitrary, it significantly cut down on the racial/tribal violence which increased sharply as apartheid was removed. it settled down for a while but is climbing again, now with Whites as the oppressed victim class ( but why should we care about them)

I am glad apartheid was ended. Any prejudgment of people base solely on their race or heritage is Inherently evil. I am pretty sure the current kleptocracy in South Africa is not a better answer.

jooferslannister-deactivated202

Good

takethesword

As someone who ran into the glue at 23rd st while trying to commute home during the protest I can tell you that:

1) there was a sign encouraging you not to swipe or get glue on your card and that

2) the emergency exit door was open so you could either walk onto the platform or hop the turnstile to still access the train

The protesters left you with a choice: become a fare evader (supporting the protest) or leave. But they didn’t stop access to the subway as a utility.

I see a lot of outrage in the comments about inconveniencing people on their commute home but consider whose commute under “normal” circumstances – under police surveillance – are inconvenienced by police.

Are you upset because you’re not someone who usually has to think about if you’ll be singled out for doing the same thing as everyone else?

Did the protests make you experience the thing that, oh, they were protesting against?

Hey, then they worked.

And if you don’t like it, well, the next subway stop is 5 blocks away. How convenient for you that this impediment was a one day, one stop friction in your life and not a constant threat.

And before anyone complains about how the protest impacted disability accessibility, 23rd st doesn’t have an elevator or other accessibility options. Let’s start with critiquing the institutional access first, shall we?

milest3hr4t

Can someone please explain this to me? because all I got out of this was, Protesters vandalized things, causing less money going to fund transit, causing transit prices to rise or causing transit to stop existing, potentially making transit unavailable long-term to people who depend on it, without inconveniencing anyone with a car of their own, meaning this disproportionately fucks over the poor.

asundergrowth

Basically what happened is that the Manhattan Transit Authority raised the price of a train ticket by 2.75$. Which doesn’t sound like much, but now a large percentage of poor New Yorkers can’t afford to get to their jobs, and started jumping the turnstiles.

Now you’re right, subways cost money to run, and the fares are there for a reason. But what people are really protesting here is what the MTA did in response to the fare jumpers.

They hired cops to literally just…stand around and watch the stiles, costing the city MORE money than if they just reversed the fare hike. New Yorkers are furious because there’s clearly money to pay for these extra cops, but apparently not for maintaining the trains.

Tl;Dr The MTA basically said “we don’t have enough money to run the trains so we are increasing the price” meaning thousands of people were faced with either hopping the fare or losing their job, but when people started jumping the stiles they apparently the MTA had enough money to hire a small army of cops.

w4rgoddess-deactivated20200825

And some of the context here is that the real reason the subway fares have been rising is because NYC, like many cities, has been slowly shifting more and more of the burden of operating expenses from everyone (including the wealthy) onto the backs of the poor alone. So for example, the developers and businesses involved with Madison Square Garden haven’t paid property taxes in almost 40 years, although the tax abatement was only supposed to be for 10 years. That’s $555 million which should have helped to pay for infrastructure – but some of the people involved are big donors to the governor, so they get to keep freeloading. And so that he looks like he’s “doing something,” Cuomo has now hired 500 more cops, at a price tag of $249 million, to catch fare evaders… who cost the city only $200 million. He’s happily collecting his chunk of cheese, but the poor are paying more and getting criminalized for struggling, and meanwhile the subways are literally on fire.

So this isn’t really about how much it costs to pay for public transportation. It’s about who pays, and whether that fare is fair.

yuying27

People seriously whinging about the poor walls and glued up card swipes and the poor cop-sie wop-sies lol. Theres also the issue of the city paying MILLIONS to station cops and brand new suveillance systems into subway stations with the idea of stopping fare evaders, but predictably all that happened were cops beating up poor poc at subway stations. They could have spent millions on improving the subway systems and its near nonexistent accessibility for the disabled, or poured it into stalling fare hikes and reinforcing transportation as a public need and right and not as a luxury :) :) :) but yeah, some meanies spray painted the city’s precious walls.

lierdumoa

Also? Speaking as someone who can afford the fare hike? The cops carry ENORMOUS guns and it’s fucking terrifying seeing a bunch a giant white dudes with automatic weapons hovering around the subway entry and it pisses me off that public money is funding me living in want feels more and more like a police state.

obstinatecurator

Something else to remember is that when we say the subway is under maintained, we don’t mean normal states of disrepair. We mean the central dispatch office was using a switchboard installed in the 1930s up until 2017.

But they got money for cops