Goblin's Dragon Blog

Jo, He/They. I post dragons and pokemon here. also ponies sometimes. Main blog is @bookgobloblin.

[stormycopperkite]

Sometimes I like to think what wof tribes my parents would be and make a sona based on that.

My mother's side of the family is definitely icewings, and my father's side is full on hivewings.

I'll let you headcanon what my family is like, but this is what I think I would be like if I had no choice about it.

I'd like to see other people do this too, so if you do it please show me :]

[grilledfiish]

some SandWing stuff as welll because I had fun with the Icewings

[dimetrodone]

Peril and Clay, Queen Scarlet, Qibli, Kinkajou

[cabs-cavern]

Wow I've been getting so much activity because of these thanks guys ❤️❤️

Payper

[vonecent]

I've been going through my Nocturnes and giving each a design loosely based on their genes and more so based on vibes, here is Nightjar

Nocturnes are meant to be very bat-like but I really like pterosaurs so they're a bit pterosaur-y in the wings

In-game design under cut

Also I know animals that echolocate have reduced whiskers but consider: whiskers are cute (they wouldn't have mammalian whiskers, but rather whisker-like structures (vibrissae) perhaps similar to the rictal bristles of birds.)

[stas-j-fox]

✨ Unicorn ✨

[tinygryphon-58570]

I spent the start of Trickmurk attempting to redesign my Beastclan Shadow representative, because I've never really been happy with her, but I think I'm getting somewhere now with this glowy-eyes-cowl look

Also I drew her next to her wife (my Beastclan Nature representative), because she was in need of a bit of a makeover too

[alopexrex]

[bookgobloblin]

I have hired this dragon to stare at the post above

[depsidase]

[thatwhatthing-fr]

World's smallest hot topic goers

[thatwhatthing-fr]

Merry Not-Christmas-Anymore, Hot Topic dragon is real now and he lives in my house lair

Come and see him

[cubecrow]

a festive dragon for a forum game

[87sukiyaki]

[glumshoe]

obviously we know in our hearts that Jabba the Hutt is not a dragon. that’s ridiculous.

But Is Jabba A Dragon Though?

he has the body plan of a lindworm. I suppose you could argue that he is too thick to be considered “serpentine”, but he is longer than he is wide, and not entirely unlike an especially chunky gaboon viper. his upright posture distracts from the fact that he’s built like an abbreviated mole lizard, which are lindworms.

and then of course he acts like a dragon. I don’t know if Star Wars uses gold or something else but whatever it is I’m sure he hordes it. eats people sometimes. disturbing taste for princesses. knights come to kick his ass.

Is Jabba A Dragon?

[the-creep-in-the-hawaiian-shirt]

Jabba the Hut isn’t a dragon. He doesn’t fly. He’s more like a slug.

[glumshoe]

Ah, but he uses a hoversled, which is much like flying:

And not all creatures under the broad category of “dragon” fly. Lindworms don’t fly, neither do wyrms, drakes, sea serpents, or hydras. Lungs/Chinese dragons can fly but they don’t use wings to do it. Jabba should not be disqualified as a dragon simply because he uses repulsor technology to achieve airborne locomotion.

Jabba is unlike a slug in so many ways. He has jointed limbs, a hard internal skeleton, a skull with fixed spherical eyeballs, and no sensory tentacles or pneumostome. He is capable of facultative parthenogenesis--like komodo dragons and other squamates--continuously growing larger and living for hundreds of years hoarding wealth and power and preying on princesses. His resemblance to a slug is superficial, though we may describe him as such in an insulting fashion... like how a dragon may be called a “worm”.

Also he can and does eat people.

Jabba the Hutt is a dragon and I have convinced myself of this.

[goomymegpoid]

No he aint bro hes a fuckin alien. dragons have to originate from the planet earth hes from a galaxy far far away.

[glumshoe]

The dragons from both The Dragonriders of Pern by Anne McCaffrey and The Pit Dragon Trilogy by Jane Yolen are aliens from extraterrestrial planets called Pern and Austar IV, respectively. 

Jabba the Hutt is a dragon.

[wardenaristraith]

I think you will find that Hutts lack a backbone, commonly known as a spine, which, for the most part, dragons have either litterially or figuratively.

[glumshoe]

Jabba’s motions, limbs, and posture are clearly dependent upon the use of a hard interior support system. Lacking an exoskeleton and being unable to simply squelch out of Leia’s chokehold suggests he is not simply moving around via the hydrolics of a muscular hydrostat. Besides, there’s this art from the making of The Phantom Menace:

[direhuman]

ship this is getting dangerously close to morphological taxonomy

do you want a plucked chicken swung at you? because this is how you get a plucked chicken swung at you.

[glumshoe]

“Dragon” is like “worm”, in my opinion. It’s not a taxonomy because the variety of creatures referred to as “worms” don’t even belong to related phylums. A horsehair worm and a nightcrawler are not related but they share an innate “worminess”. A velvet worm has many legs and is still counted as a worm-thing. Like I’ve said before, “worm” isn’t a taxonomy; it’s a lifestyle.

Dragons are the same way. It’s an umbrella term, and while some irritating pedants insist that only a four-legged creature with words god can be considered a dragon, they only say that to make sure everyone in the room knows that they know what a wyvern is. Wyverns and lindworms and amphitheres are obviously all under the dragon umbrella.

If these things are dragons, then “dragon” is as fluid a category as “worm”:

Jabba has more stereotypical “dragon traits” than some dragons do. He doesn’t hit every point, but a dragon is a worm is a dragon is a worm.

[valkylander]

My general position is that the use of the word "dragon" to encompass all these disparate creatures is a bad thing and a relic of eurocentric colonialism. A Chinese Long is not the same thing as an English Dragon, nor is a wyvern or an amphithere, and calling them "dragons" belies the cultural differences in which these disparate creatures arose.

In terms of narrative purpose and lifestyle, Janba fills the role that a Dragon does in many stories, however. I would argue Jabba is a dragon in the same sense that a Tsuchigumo is.

[glumshoe]

I think enforcing a strict cultural differentiation would eliminate most dragons from fiction. Fiction, which supplies most modern dragons, does not stick to a strict historical consistency in dragon-depiction, either visually or behaviorally.

Take, for example, the dragons from The Last Airbender. They’re clearly dragons, as they breathe fire and have wings, but they’re also more like elemental spirits that visually and behaviorally resemble lungs more than they resemble, say, Smaug. Do their similarities to lungs disqualify them from dragonhood?

Also, it’s not like the medieval Welsh concept of a “dragon” evolved in a vacuum. There are mythical creatures from around the world that bear strong resemblances to That Specific Creature Which We Are Apparently Now Inisisting Is The Only True Dragon. Welsh and British folklore was surely being influenced by mythology from disparate cultures. 

I am firmly against declaring wyverns “not dragons” because even in British cultural history, the distinction only arose out of the technicalities of heraldry, not folklore or even art. 

[maulusque]

The only thing that Jabba lacks in terms of dragon qualifications: the innately obvious “dragony-ness” that makes most people take one look and go “oh yeah that’s a dragon”. But i don’t think that that’s a REQUIREMENT of dragon-hood. Like, what the fuck is that thing down there?

That thing does not have innate dragony-ness to me. It looks like a turtle with tentacles. 

But, while I think the answer to “can we consider Jabba the Hutt to be a dragon” is yes, no one has asked whether or not Jabba would consider himself to be a dragon.

there’s a whole list on wookiepedia of dragons in star wars and it turns out there’s a bunch of creatures that have “dragon” in their name and they all have quite a lot of dragony-ness but also none of them seem to reach anything beyond semi-sentience. So maybe Jabba has enough dragon-y qualities to be considered a dragon, but he himself would be insulted if you called him one.

[maulusque]

@glumshoe

i’m reading Maul: Lockdown by Joe Schreiber and

he’s a fucking dragon 

[dragons-locator]

@glumshoe

you make some good points and also I ABSOLUTELY HATE YOU FOR THIS

fine.

DRAGON LOCATED

i hate this i hate this i hate this

[officialdragonposts]

official dragon post

unfortunately

[alldragonsaregood]

Not unfortunately. This is great and awesome

This is exactly what I mean when I say "All Dragons Are Good"

You give multiple full reasons in calling him a dragon, and they all check out. Jabba's a wingless worm-like dragon, and there is nothing unfortunate about that.

[dragonheritageposts]

Dragon Heritage Post

[sidyashchiy-na-plakhe]

GLORY FIGURE!

This is my first time sculpting anything, and I'm very proud of myself. Yeah, there are some flaws, but I like how it turned out. I didn't want to make Glory at first, but then I decided to sculpt her. ^^

I gave her more nightwing features, because she's the queen of nightwings.

[sillyfilly-fr]

what if flight rising was called trans rising and nothing changed

[sillyfilly-fr]

more recolors. feel free to request more. when I get home I'll make a thread in creative corner for these (not sure how I will group these. glad for the hidden tag added)

[silly-filly]

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[steambugs-creations]

An Angel.