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Tseng fans unite
Just out of interest, reblog if Tseng is your favourite Turk, or the one who speaks to you as your muse. I’m curious to see how many fans he has.
No matter how CC ends, how twisted he grows, or what canon dictates….
Sephiroth had best friends, and I will cherish this fact forever
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Nomura: Sephiroth hehe <3
Nojima: Sephiroth is my fav next to Cloud and I will write the hell out of him
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Why Sephiroth was Never a Good Person or a Hero
I think it's one thing to recognise the fact that he is a tragic character and, before Nibelheim, was as 'nice' as he could've turned out considering his circumstances (especially when compared to someone with a similar background like Homelander). But it's a whole other topic when I see people referring to him as an actively good person, let alone a hero.
Remember- he was a WEAPON. Yes, he looked out for his comrades, yes, he absolutely has a lot of vulnerable layers to him and was a victim of Shinra groomed into becoming what he did. But he's also someone who was killing innocent people long before Nibelheim, even a key player in genocide (Rhadore) and colonialism (Wutai). He killed children without mercy, because that was what he had been trained to do. I think part of the tragedy is that Sephiroth never had the chance to be a good person- the potential was there, that's without a doubt, but he never actually was one.
He's effectively a biological weapon raised by and leashed to Shinra. He never really had a choice in what he was going to be. Regardless, no truly good person kills innocent people, or takes part in fucking GENOCIDE- I think that is a very basic thing we can all agree on. Especially since he wasn't killing for some greater good, or even because he was convinced Shinra was right- it was simply because that was how he was raised.
I consider this one of my pet peeves because it almost feels like a woobification of the character. The tragedy of Sephiroth is NOT that he was a real hero who fell from grace, it's that he was never given a chance to be anything more than a killing machine or a tool for Shinra. It's just that, instead of killing the innocents that Shinra orders him to attack, Sephiroth has grown more obedient to his rage than the company that created him. The 'personality shift' in Nibelheim was not a shift at all. He was simply doing what he'd been raised to do, because how else was a living weapon like him going to express his rage if not acting like a living weapon?
Note 1: And no, 'he was just following orders' is not an excuse, just an explanation. Nor does it suddenly turn him into a good person. Vash the Stampede is one of the best examples of a fictional character that tries to encompass what it means to be good imo, someone who refrains from taking life wherever possible. Sephiroth was raised to take it and never managed to overcome or defy that.
Note 2: The devs trying to argue that the 'white feathers represent Sephiroth's purity' in the First Soldier is also incredibly tone-deaf, considering that he's about to be unleashed upon people defending their homeland and that his innocence was taken long before Rhadore. I'd argue it would've been whenever Shinra decided to train him into a living weapon, not when they're already releasing him to effectively commit a genocide and have already mentally prepared him to do so without hesitation. The devs have consistently made so many tone-deaf statements and decisions throughout the compilation (like Barret, THE FUCKING ENVIRONMENTALIST OF THE GROUP, starts encouraging oil use? IN THE GAME THAT'S A FUCKING ALLEGORY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION AND NON-RENEWABLE RESOURCES????) that it's convinced me that OG FF7 was only as good as it was by complete accident.
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And that's exactly why your, and a big part of the fandom's, understanding of him is skewed. From the very original, he was always meant as a fallen, tragic hero. Each game has been building on that concept and showing him more and more as human, showing the tragedy of his fall. It's not woobification, it's driving across the point that some people just don't want to get because monsters are cool or hot or something.
Pretty much every point has already been discussed in the replies, so I'll try to be brief. He was a very good person! It's easy being good when your life is easy enough and you can afford (financially, emotionally, in terms of time and effort) to be kind, and yet... most people aren't! Most people are just trying to get by, be good to their families (if that much), maybe to their community. How many truly completely selfless people do you know? (And are you sure their brand of goodness registers as such to everyone else, especially from other cultures?) He is/was good because he was raised in a way that would have psychologically destroyed any real child, with completely twisted notions about the world, dehumanised and brutalised to become a killing machine. And yet, it only took a tiny bit of normal human interaction for him to truly want to be compassionate and kind. A tiny bit, and he held on to that for as long as he could despite the circumstances of his tragic life. Oh, but genocide of children and all that... The game doesn't throw everything in your face, but it's there. He gets hurt, because he hesitated! Because despite being taught that children are soldiers just like him and old people are experienced, he hesitated! They did attack him (no doubt trying to defend themselves), which led him to believe what he was taught was right... and he still hesitated enough to let them land that blow. This was hours, if that much, after a life constant indoctrination!
As for being a hero... he also was. Not because of Shinra's propaganda, but because he believed it was his duty to protect! From the very first time with Glenn and Co, he says the duty of a leader is to protect his men. And then he goes on always doing it, always leading from the front, in the Wutai incident giving it all to protect the soldiers (and possibly the civilians) who wouldn't have stood a chance without him. I can assure you that's not what officers are taught in any military in the world! Oh, but colonialism and stuff... Are you aware there are canonically Wutaians who did want Shinra and the reactors? Life and politics are complicated and they seem to be too in the game. It's hard to tell exactly how much he's aware of what's real at that point and what is propaganda, but doesn't detract one bit from him fighting wave after wave of monsters to protect others. Are there any heroes in your world? If someone goes into a burning house, risking their life, to save their neighbour’s kids and bed ridden grandma and then turns out to be cheating on their spouse, does that make saving the kids any less heroic?
The Nibelheim fall from grace is not him finally showing what he always was, it's the result of a life of abuse, lies, manipulation, and the breaking of the only thing still holding him together, the notion that he was different, but human. It's the last blow in having everything he was destroyed from the very moment he was born. With a huge help from an alien monster that was always right there, under the surface.
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something something the inherent dehumanization of hero worship and turning someone into an idol applied to sephiroth but it's the way this happens not only in canon but also in fanon when people miss him as an untouchable villain and are angry to find out he was once a lonely, abused child
It gets difficult to hate him if one accepts that he was shaped by certain events and not just born evil.....so fans get angry over it ("°,°)
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