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but my god. destiel is forever
As an ‘entitled fanfic’ writer I think it’s time I take all my stories down and purge everything.
Clearly this fandom don’t want my content then if this is the attitude people have towards people who give their free time over to creating something that they can enjoy.
Countless hours for this fandom, weeks, months, years, crafting stories for their enjoyment and this…this is the thanks I get. Some anonymous cunt telling me I’m entitled because I dare say that Destiel was not a canon ship in my eyes. That canonically Cas was in love with Dean but there wasn’t enough to say Dean was in love with Cas.
So you know what, fuck this fandom. You’ve finally fucking done it. That was the nail in the fucking coffin. I hate you. You fucking don’t deserve anything you toxic bunch of fucking cunts.
I fucking hate you all. You fucking did this to me. You made me feel like a worthless piece of shit during my worst moments. You stalked me. You harassed me. You literally forced me to the point of suicide when my dad had fucking died.
I’m fucking done.
Oh and if you want anybody to thank for losing the stories you enjoyed you can thank @bucketofme who decided to push one too many times and call me entitled.
motherfucker stop lying you have said on multiple comments you left already,now you are doing full on twist saying I am the one pushing you out. Stop with the fuckass lies.
You kept arguing, replying and quoting people telling you they don't agree with your view that they are toxic, you kept trying to force people to accept your interpretation that dean os straight amd Destiel isn't canon under a post about Destiel being canon and that you already left the fandom bc of people calling Dean canonically bi and Destiel canon but now it's me who pushed you away? Didn't you claim you were ALREADY AWAY?????
Go play the victim and delete comments all you want, people who saw the full convo know how obnoxious and aggressive you really were no matter how much you play the victim now.
#tired of hypocrites
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
you cannot tell people that they lack the ability to understand the text when you yourself struggle this bad.
dean doesn’t have to explicitly reject castiel’s feelings because the entire shows tells you that he does. it starts with dean never showing attraction to men, especially not supernatural creatures and ends at dean not showing attraction to castiel at all, wether his vessel was female or male.
castiel cannot be colette for the simple fact that the parallel drawn is cain’s most important person, who managed to make him stop vs dean’s, which happens to be sam. castiel asked dean to stop and failed, sam succeeded. the parallel cannot possibly be clearer. in this arc sam is both abel and colette, because he encompasses everything for dean and vice versa.
castiel being called a family pet is mocking but it is accurate, which even dean acknowledges in scoobynatural by calling him a “talking dog”. this is cain being observant and accurately describing how dean views castiel: a tool, a devoted dog.
crowley was an ally and a friend [during the demon dean episodes]. he wasn’t a situation ship, flings aren’t only used to describe romantic situations. as for the group sex, having an orgy does not mean that crowley and dean fucked each other and it isn’t indicative of their respective sexualities.
destiel can be considered a part of the story [since it is mentioned by name once in the 200th episode] but the relationship in the proper term isn’t since you need reciprocation and it has been overly established that there was none on dean’s side. it isn’t only confirmed by jensen ackles but also by other writers [reminder that only berens wrote for destiel, some other writers — including one who admitted to not watching the first three seasons which is pretty fucking important lore to miss on — may have wanted to but that does not mean they managed to do it or get the network’s/jensen’s approval], as well as producers, show runners, cast and crew.
perhaps you should take your own advice.
The entire show tells me the opposite that Dean has been a man lover all along and one of those he was simping for was Castiel, so yes him not rejecting him is actually a very great sign that he actually does feel the same way.
Castiel is canonically Dean's Collete bc the parallel is drawn between Dean amd Cain and three important people in their lives. I know cetsies want the important person in Dean's life to be hi brother but he is not ,never was never will be. Sam is the brother Abel stated on multiple occasions, Cain's most important murder after his brother was his lover, Dean's, who is supposed to be in reverse as stated by Cain will be Castiel.
Cas=Collette
Sam=Abel
It's blantatly obvious no matter how you all deny it ,the writers of the episode agrees to it himself, you all have to be purposefully dense to ignore it.
"The orgies aren't indicative of their respective sexualities" yeah not necessarily but it textually adds a sexual element to the dynamic. That's what the point is,so it gives the world fling another potential to be interpreted as being something more
Destiel is part of the story bc writers wrote into it. Jensen is a nobody,he can't confirm anything and there is NOT a single person in the writing team to confirm his delusions about Dean "not reciprocating". Which is the exact reason he gets the backlash he is a sole voice that wasn't a writer and doesnt have back up grom them. Berens made a lot of callbacks in the early seasons with the confesion so it's more than safe to assume he has watched them at least for the confesion.
I agree watching the first few seasons os very important, very important to see Dean was a man lover from day one. If I recall correctly (this is the only thing I accept I might be wrong on) also Meghan didn't say she didn't watch the first season, she said the first 2 were just build up, from s3 onwards is when it gets good, that's her opinion nothing objective about it ,some people like the earlier seasons more ,some like the ones that came after, that's one of the things everyone is entitled to have their own readings on.
Dean consistently says he prefers women. He doesn’t ‘swing that way’ when it comes to men.
These people ‘Dean has liked men from day 1.’
This is why I’ve stopped interacting. Destiel is fanon. It’s that simple.
Dean doesn't consistently say he prefers women he has actually a whole confesisonal talking about how futile and deathless all his relationships with were.
No he doesn't say he doesn't swing that way to state his sexuality he made a joke to Victor and a snarky remark to guy he found threatening and pulled a gun on him seconds after.
Yes he liked men from day one ,the whole show is him checking out dudes flirting with dudes having male crushea getting flsutered by fudes,h mentions hooking uo with strangers of unspecified gender, group sex with men...way toi many stuff to consider him straight. Just bc you want him to be straight doesn't mean the writers wanted it too and I think they made it clear multiple times.
"That's why I left the fandom" if you had left the fandom you wouldn't be busting our balls for a whole weew to accept your headcanons for Dean's sexuality. Literally nothing in the text or the subetxt backs up the idea of him being straight his delusional actors headcanons are literally nothing important,he is not write, none of them including the Creator have ever agreed with his bs. It would be great if you do stoo though, much appreciated.
Destiel is canon it's simple. It's also very simple Dean was bi before Cas and would have remain bi after Cas if he somehow didn't feel the same way but as we saw he prefers being dead over with anyone else.
Anyways a good meta debunking the whole Dean said he is a hetero thing bc after a week this is clearly you ragebaiting and I don't have the patience.
https://www.tumblr.com/f-ckyeahfutbol/116758065296/im-writing-this-as-a-reference-post-because?source=share
Me rage baiting? Are you fucking serious when you are literally spewing shit like this?
This is the thing, I’m a Destiel shipper. Hell I’ve written a shit ton for this fandom. But I know for a fact Dean is not bi-sexual. It is fan fiction. It is simple as that.
The problem with this fandom is media literacy. Many people have none and they believe that the writers were doing some massive code to the fandom to subtly tell them Dean was bi-sexual. It’s like the people who believe that the Government are sending them signals through the TV. Or that celebrities are using vague hand gestures to indicate they are part of some kind of cabal or in the illuminati.
Effectively, it’s what conspiracy theorists do.
If they wanted to make Dean bi, they’d have just come out and said he fancies men as well. There was no secret agenda at CW. Nobody was saying he couldn’t be bi. That is all lies perpetrated by others. A lie that makes no sense when you see how many LGBT+ friendly shows there were on the network and when you consider one of the most senior executives is gay and married to a former professional footballer. If anybody would want a leading macho man as a queer character, it is somebody like that.
Dean was straight. It isn’t homophobic to say what is clearly spelt out in text in front of you.
"I ahev written fanfiction" Great go masturbate while reading that fanfiction now and leave the general public alone with your nonsense.
Destiel/Bi Dean is not fanfiction it's as simple as that. If you view this as fanfiction good for you, the people who wrote the show view this as canon so viewers like me are entitled to view ot as canon too without fanfic writers lile yourself believing they know the show better than the people who wrote it.
I agree the fandom lacks media literacy, take fo example entitled fanfic writers like yourself who know nothing about the show telling actual fans they have to listen to their misconceptions and accept as them as canon to promote their p0rn on Ao3. Yes teh writers directors set decorators and other members of the production have confirmed allt he coding was intentional. They know their show better than fanfic girlies who didn't understood what the lines the characters let out of their mouths say.
Who told Dean doesn't state his sexual attraction to men in the text? Not the writers not the character himself not the creator of the show your delusional ass and people like me should do what accept it bc..? No reason you just want us too.
As for conspiracy theories I think you should look yourself at the mirroring bc you think tens of members from the production of tv show along with fans just conspired to call a character who according to you a fanfic writer is straight, regardless of the fact that none of his writers or his creator has ever claimed that to ever be the intention for him, bisexual just because...no reason you just speaking to speak.
Aside from having direct quotes from excecs confriming those "conspiracy theories" you claim we are sharing do you have any idea how many showrunners have complained that this garbage studio didn't let them make their characters explicitly queer, especially their leads? So they resorted in subtext/coding? No? Do some research and find out. Sometimes it has to do with the rating sometimes it has to do with the audience they are marketing the show for.
"Dean wa straight" according to you,not according to any soul from the writing team or his creator. "It's not homophobic to listen to the text" except there is no text saying he is a straight. Yeah being this hellbent over a character who is intentionally written to be perceivable as queer straight does sound homophobic to me especially when you go rant to queer men who identity with his queer coding about it.
Wow what a charming and lovely person you are.
I was going to write a massive response to this but you genuinely aren’t worth my fucking time.
Oh and us entitled fanfic writers? We’re the ones who saw Destiel and ran with it. Giving people like YOU more content for the ship.
The only entitled ones here are people like you and that is precisely why I no longer give the fandom my time. Because why should I bother writing for a ship that has given me nothing but trouble. That has resulted in people like YOU besmirching my name and insulting me because I had a different view to others.
Don’t come at me because your upset people don’t see Destiel and Jensen doesn’t see it either. But considering you are clearly Dotthings, I shouldn’t be surprised you’re attacking others because that is all you fucking do.
I am charming and loving with the people that are worth,the other person my friend that people confused me for on twitter can testify, as for Dott of course I am not her, why would you think I could possibly have anything to do with anyone who stans that homophobic piece of shit Jensen is beyond me.
Yes if you go to bi/queer mens posts to invalidate their read on Dean's sexuality, which happena to be the correct read that Dean is bisexual that's how his writers wrote him as a bi man in love with Castiel,you are entitled as fuck.
For days you said you left the fandom yet for days you are here busting my balls amd other bi men's balls to accept your straight Dean fanfiction as canon and ignore his canon bisexuality ,we won't, so keep your word and leave and stopping an entitled annoying brat. Understood?
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
you cannot tell people that they lack the ability to understand the text when you yourself struggle this bad.
dean doesn’t have to explicitly reject castiel’s feelings because the entire shows tells you that he does. it starts with dean never showing attraction to men, especially not supernatural creatures and ends at dean not showing attraction to castiel at all, wether his vessel was female or male.
castiel cannot be colette for the simple fact that the parallel drawn is cain’s most important person, who managed to make him stop vs dean’s, which happens to be sam. castiel asked dean to stop and failed, sam succeeded. the parallel cannot possibly be clearer. in this arc sam is both abel and colette, because he encompasses everything for dean and vice versa.
castiel being called a family pet is mocking but it is accurate, which even dean acknowledges in scoobynatural by calling him a “talking dog”. this is cain being observant and accurately describing how dean views castiel: a tool, a devoted dog.
crowley was an ally and a friend [during the demon dean episodes]. he wasn’t a situation ship, flings aren’t only used to describe romantic situations. as for the group sex, having an orgy does not mean that crowley and dean fucked each other and it isn’t indicative of their respective sexualities.
destiel can be considered a part of the story [since it is mentioned by name once in the 200th episode] but the relationship in the proper term isn’t since you need reciprocation and it has been overly established that there was none on dean’s side. it isn’t only confirmed by jensen ackles but also by other writers [reminder that only berens wrote for destiel, some other writers — including one who admitted to not watching the first three seasons which is pretty fucking important lore to miss on — may have wanted to but that does not mean they managed to do it or get the network’s/jensen’s approval], as well as producers, show runners, cast and crew.
perhaps you should take your own advice.
The entire show tells me the opposite that Dean has been a man lover all along and one of those he was simping for was Castiel, so yes him not rejecting him is actually a very great sign that he actually does feel the same way.
Castiel is canonically Dean's Collete bc the parallel is drawn between Dean amd Cain and three important people in their lives. I know cetsies want the important person in Dean's life to be hi brother but he is not ,never was never will be. Sam is the brother Abel stated on multiple occasions, Cain's most important murder after his brother was his lover, Dean's, who is supposed to be in reverse as stated by Cain will be Castiel.
Cas=Collette
Sam=Abel
It's blantatly obvious no matter how you all deny it ,the writers of the episode agrees to it himself, you all have to be purposefully dense to ignore it.
"The orgies aren't indicative of their respective sexualities" yeah not necessarily but it textually adds a sexual element to the dynamic. That's what the point is,so it gives the world fling another potential to be interpreted as being something more
Destiel is part of the story bc writers wrote into it. Jensen is a nobody,he can't confirm anything and there is NOT a single person in the writing team to confirm his delusions about Dean "not reciprocating". Which is the exact reason he gets the backlash he is a sole voice that wasn't a writer and doesnt have back up grom them. Berens made a lot of callbacks in the early seasons with the confesion so it's more than safe to assume he has watched them at least for the confesion.
I agree watching the first few seasons os very important, very important to see Dean was a man lover from day one. If I recall correctly (this is the only thing I accept I might be wrong on) also Meghan didn't say she didn't watch the first season, she said the first 2 were just build up, from s3 onwards is when it gets good, that's her opinion nothing objective about it ,some people like the earlier seasons more ,some like the ones that came after, that's one of the things everyone is entitled to have their own readings on.
Dean consistently says he prefers women. He doesn’t ‘swing that way’ when it comes to men.
These people ‘Dean has liked men from day 1.’
This is why I’ve stopped interacting. Destiel is fanon. It’s that simple.
Dean doesn't consistently say he prefers women he has actually a whole confesisonal talking about how futile and deathless all his relationships with were.
No he doesn't say he doesn't swing that way to state his sexuality he made a joke to Victor and a snarky remark to guy he found threatening and pulled a gun on him seconds after.
Yes he liked men from day one ,the whole show is him checking out dudes flirting with dudes having male crushea getting flsutered by fudes,h mentions hooking uo with strangers of unspecified gender, group sex with men...way toi many stuff to consider him straight. Just bc you want him to be straight doesn't mean the writers wanted it too and I think they made it clear multiple times.
"That's why I left the fandom" if you had left the fandom you wouldn't be busting our balls for a whole weew to accept your headcanons for Dean's sexuality. Literally nothing in the text or the subetxt backs up the idea of him being straight his delusional actors headcanons are literally nothing important,he is not write, none of them including the Creator have ever agreed with his bs. It would be great if you do stoo though, much appreciated.
Destiel is canon it's simple. It's also very simple Dean was bi before Cas and would have remain bi after Cas if he somehow didn't feel the same way but as we saw he prefers being dead over with anyone else.
Anyways a good meta debunking the whole Dean said he is a hetero thing bc after a week this is clearly you ragebaiting and I don't have the patience.
https://www.tumblr.com/f-ckyeahfutbol/116758065296/im-writing-this-as-a-reference-post-because?source=share
Me rage baiting? Are you fucking serious when you are literally spewing shit like this?
This is the thing, I’m a Destiel shipper. Hell I’ve written a shit ton for this fandom. But I know for a fact Dean is not bi-sexual. It is fan fiction. It is simple as that.
The problem with this fandom is media literacy. Many people have none and they believe that the writers were doing some massive code to the fandom to subtly tell them Dean was bi-sexual. It’s like the people who believe that the Government are sending them signals through the TV. Or that celebrities are using vague hand gestures to indicate they are part of some kind of cabal or in the illuminati.
Effectively, it’s what conspiracy theorists do.
If they wanted to make Dean bi, they’d have just come out and said he fancies men as well. There was no secret agenda at CW. Nobody was saying he couldn’t be bi. That is all lies perpetrated by others. A lie that makes no sense when you see how many LGBT+ friendly shows there were on the network and when you consider one of the most senior executives is gay and married to a former professional footballer. If anybody would want a leading macho man as a queer character, it is somebody like that.
Dean was straight. It isn’t homophobic to say what is clearly spelt out in text in front of you.
"I ahev written fanfiction" Great go masturbate while reading that fanfiction now and leave the general public alone with your nonsense.
Destiel/Bi Dean is not fanfiction it's as simple as that. If you view this as fanfiction good for you, the people who wrote the show view this as canon so viewers like me are entitled to view ot as canon too without fanfic writers lile yourself believing they know the show better than the people who wrote it.
I agree the fandom lacks media literacy, take fo example entitled fanfic writers like yourself who know nothing about the show telling actual fans they have to listen to their misconceptions and accept as them as canon to promote their p0rn on Ao3. Yes teh writers directors set decorators and other members of the production have confirmed allt he coding was intentional. They know their show better than fanfic girlies who didn't understood what the lines the characters let out of their mouths say.
Who told Dean doesn't state his sexual attraction to men in the text? Not the writers not the character himself not the creator of the show your delusional ass and people like me should do what accept it bc..? No reason you just want us too.
As for conspiracy theories I think you should look yourself at the mirroring bc you think tens of members from the production of tv show along with fans just conspired to call a character who according to you a fanfic writer is straight, regardless of the fact that none of his writers or his creator has ever claimed that to ever be the intention for him, bisexual just because...no reason you just speaking to speak.
Aside from having direct quotes from excecs confriming those "conspiracy theories" you claim we are sharing do you have any idea how many showrunners have complained that this garbage studio didn't let them make their characters explicitly queer, especially their leads? So they resorted in subtext/coding? No? Do some research and find out. Sometimes it has to do with the rating sometimes it has to do with the audience they are marketing the show for.
"Dean wa straight" according to you,not according to any soul from the writing team or his creator. "It's not homophobic to listen to the text" except there is no text saying he is a straight. Yeah being this hellbent over a character who is intentionally written to be perceivable as queer straight does sound homophobic to me especially when you go rant to queer men who identity with his queer coding about it.
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
you cannot tell people that they lack the ability to understand the text when you yourself struggle this bad.
dean doesn’t have to explicitly reject castiel’s feelings because the entire shows tells you that he does. it starts with dean never showing attraction to men, especially not supernatural creatures and ends at dean not showing attraction to castiel at all, wether his vessel was female or male.
castiel cannot be colette for the simple fact that the parallel drawn is cain’s most important person, who managed to make him stop vs dean’s, which happens to be sam. castiel asked dean to stop and failed, sam succeeded. the parallel cannot possibly be clearer. in this arc sam is both abel and colette, because he encompasses everything for dean and vice versa.
castiel being called a family pet is mocking but it is accurate, which even dean acknowledges in scoobynatural by calling him a “talking dog”. this is cain being observant and accurately describing how dean views castiel: a tool, a devoted dog.
crowley was an ally and a friend [during the demon dean episodes]. he wasn’t a situation ship, flings aren’t only used to describe romantic situations. as for the group sex, having an orgy does not mean that crowley and dean fucked each other and it isn’t indicative of their respective sexualities.
destiel can be considered a part of the story [since it is mentioned by name once in the 200th episode] but the relationship in the proper term isn’t since you need reciprocation and it has been overly established that there was none on dean’s side. it isn’t only confirmed by jensen ackles but also by other writers [reminder that only berens wrote for destiel, some other writers — including one who admitted to not watching the first three seasons which is pretty fucking important lore to miss on — may have wanted to but that does not mean they managed to do it or get the network’s/jensen’s approval], as well as producers, show runners, cast and crew.
perhaps you should take your own advice.
The entire show tells me the opposite that Dean has been a man lover all along and one of those he was simping for was Castiel, so yes him not rejecting him is actually a very great sign that he actually does feel the same way.
Castiel is canonically Dean's Collete bc the parallel is drawn between Dean amd Cain and three important people in their lives. I know cetsies want the important person in Dean's life to be hi brother but he is not ,never was never will be. Sam is the brother Abel stated on multiple occasions, Cain's most important murder after his brother was his lover, Dean's, who is supposed to be in reverse as stated by Cain will be Castiel.
Cas=Collette
Sam=Abel
It's blantatly obvious no matter how you all deny it ,the writers of the episode agrees to it himself, you all have to be purposefully dense to ignore it.
"The orgies aren't indicative of their respective sexualities" yeah not necessarily but it textually adds a sexual element to the dynamic. That's what the point is,so it gives the world fling another potential to be interpreted as being something more
Destiel is part of the story bc writers wrote into it. Jensen is a nobody,he can't confirm anything and there is NOT a single person in the writing team to confirm his delusions about Dean "not reciprocating". Which is the exact reason he gets the backlash he is a sole voice that wasn't a writer and doesnt have back up grom them. Berens made a lot of callbacks in the early seasons with the confesion so it's more than safe to assume he has watched them at least for the confesion.
I agree watching the first few seasons os very important, very important to see Dean was a man lover from day one. If I recall correctly (this is the only thing I accept I might be wrong on) also Meghan didn't say she didn't watch the first season, she said the first 2 were just build up, from s3 onwards is when it gets good, that's her opinion nothing objective about it ,some people like the earlier seasons more ,some like the ones that came after, that's one of the things everyone is entitled to have their own readings on.
Dean consistently says he prefers women. He doesn’t ‘swing that way’ when it comes to men.
These people ‘Dean has liked men from day 1.’
This is why I’ve stopped interacting. Destiel is fanon. It’s that simple.
Dean doesn't consistently say he prefers women he has actually a whole confesisonal talking about how futile and deathless all his relationships with were.
No he doesn't say he doesn't swing that way to state his sexuality he made a joke to Victor and a snarky remark to guy he found threatening and pulled a gun on him seconds after.
Yes he liked men from day one ,the whole show is him checking out dudes flirting with dudes having male crushea getting flsutered by fudes,h mentions hooking uo with strangers of unspecified gender, group sex with men...way toi many stuff to consider him straight. Just bc you want him to be straight doesn't mean the writers wanted it too and I think they made it clear multiple times.
"That's why I left the fandom" if you had left the fandom you wouldn't be busting our balls for a whole weew to accept your headcanons for Dean's sexuality. Literally nothing in the text or the subetxt backs up the idea of him being straight his delusional actors headcanons are literally nothing important,he is not write, none of them including the Creator have ever agreed with his bs. It would be great if you do stoo though, much appreciated.
Destiel is canon it's simple. It's also very simple Dean was bi before Cas and would have remain bi after Cas if he somehow didn't feel the same way but as we saw he prefers being dead over with anyone else.
Anyways a good meta debunking the whole Dean said he is a hetero thing bc after a week this is clearly you ragebaiting and I don't have the patience.
https://www.tumblr.com/f-ckyeahfutbol/116758065296/im-writing-this-as-a-reference-post-because?source=share
Facts.
SUPERNATURAL LEGACY WILL ALWAYS BE DESTIEL.
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
you cannot tell people that they lack the ability to understand the text when you yourself struggle this bad.
dean doesn’t have to explicitly reject castiel’s feelings because the entire shows tells you that he does. it starts with dean never showing attraction to men, especially not supernatural creatures and ends at dean not showing attraction to castiel at all, wether his vessel was female or male.
castiel cannot be colette for the simple fact that the parallel drawn is cain’s most important person, who managed to make him stop vs dean’s, which happens to be sam. castiel asked dean to stop and failed, sam succeeded. the parallel cannot possibly be clearer. in this arc sam is both abel and colette, because he encompasses everything for dean and vice versa.
castiel being called a family pet is mocking but it is accurate, which even dean acknowledges in scoobynatural by calling him a “talking dog”. this is cain being observant and accurately describing how dean views castiel: a tool, a devoted dog.
crowley was an ally and a friend [during the demon dean episodes]. he wasn’t a situation ship, flings aren’t only used to describe romantic situations. as for the group sex, having an orgy does not mean that crowley and dean fucked each other and it isn’t indicative of their respective sexualities.
destiel can be considered a part of the story [since it is mentioned by name once in the 200th episode] but the relationship in the proper term isn’t since you need reciprocation and it has been overly established that there was none on dean’s side. it isn’t only confirmed by jensen ackles but also by other writers [reminder that only berens wrote for destiel, some other writers — including one who admitted to not watching the first three seasons which is pretty fucking important lore to miss on — may have wanted to but that does not mean they managed to do it or get the network’s/jensen’s approval], as well as producers, show runners, cast and crew.
perhaps you should take your own advice.
The entire show tells me the opposite that Dean has been a man lover all along and one of those he was simping for was Castiel, so yes him not rejecting him is actually a very great sign that he actually does feel the same way.
Castiel is canonically Dean's Collete bc the parallel is drawn between Dean amd Cain and three important people in their lives. I know cetsies want the important person in Dean's life to be hi brother but he is not ,never was never will be. Sam is the brother Abel stated on multiple occasions, Cain's most important murder after his brother was his lover, Dean's, who is supposed to be in reverse as stated by Cain will be Castiel.
Cas=Collette
Sam=Abel
It's blantatly obvious no matter how you all deny it ,the writers of the episode agrees to it himself, you all have to be purposefully dense to ignore it.
"The orgies aren't indicative of their respective sexualities" yeah not necessarily but it textually adds a sexual element to the dynamic. That's what the point is,so it gives the world fling another potential to be interpreted as being something more
Destiel is part of the story bc writers wrote into it. Jensen is a nobody,he can't confirm anything and there is NOT a single person in the writing team to confirm his delusions about Dean "not reciprocating". Which is the exact reason he gets the backlash he is a sole voice that wasn't a writer and doesnt have back up grom them. Berens made a lot of callbacks in the early seasons with the confesion so it's more than safe to assume he has watched them at least for the confesion.
I agree watching the first few seasons os very important, very important to see Dean was a man lover from day one. If I recall correctly (this is the only thing I accept I might be wrong on) also Meghan didn't say she didn't watch the first season, she said the first 2 were just build up, from s3 onwards is when it gets good, that's her opinion nothing objective about it ,some people like the earlier seasons more ,some like the ones that came after, that's one of the things everyone is entitled to have their own readings on.
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
Clear text does not have to be “interpreted”. Drop down the showrunner talking about this, we’ll all wait. Meanwhile what the showrunners did talk about was having Jimmy in the final episode (not Castiel) but negated it as they didn’t want it misinterpreted. Why would they say that if they were supposedly supporting your ship.
Look, it’s you that’s wrong on Collette. “The only thing she asked was for me to put down the blade” That is Sam, Dean put down the blade for Sam. There’s multiple posts on this explaining step by step why you are incorrect, including posts by my account. Educate yourself or not 🤷♀️
A couple of writers (one a Writer’s assistant btw) interacting badly because they are narcissists on social media does not negate everyone else saying the exact opposite, they could say they were writing about a pink unicorn intentionally and unless it makes it into the text and not the “subtext” their talk is irrelevant.
I don’t read Sam and Dean fanfiction, I have 327 hours of canon television but yeah, you do you.
To everyone else, the post I made yesterday about that very small percentage, yeah, this is clearly one of them.
’Unable to interpret clear text.’ These people don’t understand basic words and phrases do they? Canon and clear text seem to be two very difficult terms for them. There is no clear text. Everything they have just mentioned are moments in the show where they’ve put 2 and 2 together to make 5. There was never any clear text in the show.
I cannot ignore the "evidence" provided. Picture 1
This isn't even a parallel one is talking about their lives in general, while the other is about romance that was specifically manipulated by god. Even IF castiel meant it romantically how does that show reciprocation? So not the same situation at all
Dean had one person in the room he witnessed vanish? Also as someone with no romantic partner, do you think he would not notice his friend / team mate vanish? Seriously? Again different situations
Completely irrelevant? He just seems upset that a human would chose to love an angel tbh
This is a bad interpretation and other clips show Sam was Collette and Abel - including Dam being the one who could get him to stop. But again Dean has no direct Collete parallel as he has no romantic partner at this time
Can I reiterate one more time Dean has no romantic partner, he has his brother and their friend Cass. Sam is sitting next to him and Cass just died so who else could Lucifer use? This is such a stretch
Bobo Beren was writer of 15.18 he is a destiel SHIPPER if he was the decision maker and could make it clear canon it would have been
Writers can be shippers, so what. Unless she was the showrunner/decision maker this is a fan post.
If the actor who played the role in every episodes opinion hold no weight a random writer of a few episodes hold wayyyyy less
Megan Fitzmartin is a hell shippers who got a job on SPN to push her agenda, including bringing those book to leave in her bosses office. Not sue what this is supposed to prove?
It proves hiw Destiel has been part of the show's story during at the very least Dabb's regime. If destiel is on the writers room that means it's canon oart if the story.
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
Clear text does not have to be “interpreted”. Drop down the showrunner talking about this, we’ll all wait. Meanwhile what the showrunners did talk about was having Jimmy in the final episode (not Castiel) but negated it as they didn’t want it misinterpreted. Why would they say that if they were supposedly supporting your ship.
Look, it’s you that’s wrong on Collette. “The only thing she asked was for me to put down the blade” That is Sam, Dean put down the blade for Sam. There’s multiple posts on this explaining step by step why you are incorrect, including posts by my account. Educate yourself or not 🤷♀️
A couple of writers (one a Writer’s assistant btw) interacting badly because they are narcissists on social media does not negate everyone else saying the exact opposite, they could say they were writing about a pink unicorn intentionally and unless it makes it into the text and not the “subtext” their talk is irrelevant.
I don’t read Sam and Dean fanfiction, I have 327 hours of canon television but yeah, you do you.
To everyone else, the post I made yesterday about that very small percentage, yeah, this is clearly one of them.
’Unable to interpret clear text.’ These people don’t understand basic words and phrases do they? Canon and clear text seem to be two very difficult terms for them. There is no clear text. Everything they have just mentioned are moments in the show where they’ve put 2 and 2 together to make 5. There was never any clear text in the show.
I cannot ignore the "evidence" provided. Picture 1
This isn't even a parallel one is talking about their lives in general, while the other is about romance that was specifically manipulated by god. Even IF castiel meant it romantically how does that show reciprocation? So not the same situation at all
Dean had one person in the room he witnessed vanish? Also as someone with no romantic partner, do you think he would not notice his friend / team mate vanish? Seriously? Again different situations
baby girl, we didn't know shit for Stevie and they showed us and emphasized on Charlie's reaction. For Eileen and Cas we knew that's but they still showed and empathized on that loss. The episode is written by the writer who told you it's canon,the writer knows what he wrote better than you
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
Clear text does not have to be “interpreted”. Drop down the showrunner talking about this, we’ll all wait. Meanwhile what the showrunners did talk about was having Jimmy in the final episode (not Castiel) but negated it as they didn’t want it misinterpreted. Why would they say that if they were supposedly supporting your ship.
Look, it’s you that’s wrong on Collette. “The only thing she asked was for me to put down the blade” That is Sam, Dean put down the blade for Sam. There’s multiple posts on this explaining step by step why you are incorrect, including posts by my account. Educate yourself or not 🤷♀️
A couple of writers (one a Writer’s assistant btw) interacting badly because they are narcissists on social media does not negate everyone else saying the exact opposite, they could say they were writing about a pink unicorn intentionally and unless it makes it into the text and not the “subtext” their talk is irrelevant.
I don’t read Sam and Dean fanfiction, I have 327 hours of canon television but yeah, you do you.
To everyone else, the post I made yesterday about that very small percentage, yeah, this is clearly one of them.
’Unable to interpret clear text.’ These people don’t understand basic words and phrases do they? Canon and clear text seem to be two very difficult terms for them. There is no clear text. Everything they have just mentioned are moments in the show where they’ve put 2 and 2 together to make 5. There was never any clear text in the show.
I cannot ignore the "evidence" provided. Picture 1
This isn't even a parallel one is talking about their lives in general, while the other is about romance that was specifically manipulated by god. Even IF castiel meant it romantically how does that show reciprocation? So not the same situation at all
Dean had one person in the room he witnessed vanish? Also as someone with no romantic partner, do you think he would not notice his friend / team mate vanish? Seriously? Again different situations
Completely irrelevant? He just seems upset that a human would chose to love an angel tbh
or maybe he didn't know angels can fall in love so that's why he was weirded out by Cas confesion too. Literally the reason he couldn't reciprocate, he was stunned confused, script written by Berrens who told you Destiel is canon
Nobody knows tge show better than the people who wrote it
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
Clear text does not have to be “interpreted”. Drop down the showrunner talking about this, we’ll all wait. Meanwhile what the showrunners did talk about was having Jimmy in the final episode (not Castiel) but negated it as they didn’t want it misinterpreted. Why would they say that if they were supposedly supporting your ship.
Look, it’s you that’s wrong on Collette. “The only thing she asked was for me to put down the blade” That is Sam, Dean put down the blade for Sam. There’s multiple posts on this explaining step by step why you are incorrect, including posts by my account. Educate yourself or not 🤷♀️
A couple of writers (one a Writer’s assistant btw) interacting badly because they are narcissists on social media does not negate everyone else saying the exact opposite, they could say they were writing about a pink unicorn intentionally and unless it makes it into the text and not the “subtext” their talk is irrelevant.
I don’t read Sam and Dean fanfiction, I have 327 hours of canon television but yeah, you do you.
To everyone else, the post I made yesterday about that very small percentage, yeah, this is clearly one of them.
’Unable to interpret clear text.’ These people don’t understand basic words and phrases do they? Canon and clear text seem to be two very difficult terms for them. There is no clear text. Everything they have just mentioned are moments in the show where they’ve put 2 and 2 together to make 5. There was never any clear text in the show.
I cannot ignore the "evidence" provided. Picture 1
This isn't even a parallel one is talking about their lives in general, while the other is about romance that was specifically manipulated by god. Even IF castiel meant it romantically how does that show reciprocation? So not the same situation at all
Dean had one person in the room he witnessed vanish? Also as someone with no romantic partner, do you think he would not notice his friend / team mate vanish? Seriously? Again different situations
Completely irrelevant? He just seems upset that a human would chose to love an angel tbh
This is a bad interpretation and other clips show Sam was Collette and Abel - including Dam being the one who could get him to stop. But again Dean has no direct Collete parallel as he has no romantic partner at this time
Nope even Berens has confrimed it Cas is Collete. Sam can't be more than one people he needs to be Dean's last murder,amd before him there should be Collete, that was Cas
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
Clear text does not have to be “interpreted”. Drop down the showrunner talking about this, we’ll all wait. Meanwhile what the showrunners did talk about was having Jimmy in the final episode (not Castiel) but negated it as they didn’t want it misinterpreted. Why would they say that if they were supposedly supporting your ship.
Look, it’s you that’s wrong on Collette. “The only thing she asked was for me to put down the blade” That is Sam, Dean put down the blade for Sam. There’s multiple posts on this explaining step by step why you are incorrect, including posts by my account. Educate yourself or not 🤷♀️
A couple of writers (one a Writer’s assistant btw) interacting badly because they are narcissists on social media does not negate everyone else saying the exact opposite, they could say they were writing about a pink unicorn intentionally and unless it makes it into the text and not the “subtext” their talk is irrelevant.
I don’t read Sam and Dean fanfiction, I have 327 hours of canon television but yeah, you do you.
To everyone else, the post I made yesterday about that very small percentage, yeah, this is clearly one of them.
’Unable to interpret clear text.’ These people don’t understand basic words and phrases do they? Canon and clear text seem to be two very difficult terms for them. There is no clear text. Everything they have just mentioned are moments in the show where they’ve put 2 and 2 together to make 5. There was never any clear text in the show.
I cannot ignore the "evidence" provided. Picture 1
This isn't even a parallel one is talking about their lives in general, while the other is about romance that was specifically manipulated by god. Even IF castiel meant it romantically how does that show reciprocation? So not the same situation at all
Dean had one person in the room he witnessed vanish? Also as someone with no romantic partner, do you think he would not notice his friend / team mate vanish? Seriously? Again different situations
Completely irrelevant? He just seems upset that a human would chose to love an angel tbh
This is a bad interpretation and other clips show Sam was Collette and Abel - including Dam being the one who could get him to stop. But again Dean has no direct Collete parallel as he has no romantic partner at this time
Can I reiterate one more time Dean has no romantic partner, he has his brother and their friend Cass. Sam is sitting next to him and Cass just died so who else could Lucifer use? This is such a stretch
Of course he has romantic partners dead, I don't even mean implied like straight up on screen kiss, and even if he hadn't the fact they made it so that Cas will fit the pattern says everything
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
Clear text does not have to be “interpreted”. Drop down the showrunner talking about this, we’ll all wait. Meanwhile what the showrunners did talk about was having Jimmy in the final episode (not Castiel) but negated it as they didn’t want it misinterpreted. Why would they say that if they were supposedly supporting your ship.
Look, it’s you that’s wrong on Collette. “The only thing she asked was for me to put down the blade” That is Sam, Dean put down the blade for Sam. There’s multiple posts on this explaining step by step why you are incorrect, including posts by my account. Educate yourself or not 🤷♀️
A couple of writers (one a Writer’s assistant btw) interacting badly because they are narcissists on social media does not negate everyone else saying the exact opposite, they could say they were writing about a pink unicorn intentionally and unless it makes it into the text and not the “subtext” their talk is irrelevant.
I don’t read Sam and Dean fanfiction, I have 327 hours of canon television but yeah, you do you.
To everyone else, the post I made yesterday about that very small percentage, yeah, this is clearly one of them.
’Unable to interpret clear text.’ These people don’t understand basic words and phrases do they? Canon and clear text seem to be two very difficult terms for them. There is no clear text. Everything they have just mentioned are moments in the show where they’ve put 2 and 2 together to make 5. There was never any clear text in the show.
I cannot ignore the "evidence" provided. Picture 1
This isn't even a parallel one is talking about their lives in general, while the other is about romance that was specifically manipulated by god. Even IF castiel meant it romantically how does that show reciprocation? So not the same situation at all
Dean had one person in the room he witnessed vanish? Also as someone with no romantic partner, do you think he would not notice his friend / team mate vanish? Seriously? Again different situations
Completely irrelevant? He just seems upset that a human would chose to love an angel tbh
This is a bad interpretation and other clips show Sam was Collette and Abel - including Dam being the one who could get him to stop. But again Dean has no direct Collete parallel as he has no romantic partner at this time
Can I reiterate one more time Dean has no romantic partner, he has his brother and their friend Cass. Sam is sitting next to him and Cass just died so who else could Lucifer use? This is such a stretch
Bobo Beren was writer of 15.18 he is a destiel SHIPPER if he was the decision maker and could make it clear canon it would have been
Bobo Berens wrote the confession and everything that lead into it, he wrote an episode where people lose their lovers and lost Dean Cas, if he says Destiel is fully canon aka reciprocational that's what it is.and no homophobic monkey like Jensen and his fans will erase it.
Writers words=canon
Actors words= fanfiction prompts they share with the fans, that's what everything Jensen says is
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!
Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.
I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.
Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.
I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.
Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.
You are literally this gif btw
Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.
Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.
Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.
Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered
Clear text does not have to be “interpreted”. Drop down the showrunner talking about this, we’ll all wait. Meanwhile what the showrunners did talk about was having Jimmy in the final episode (not Castiel) but negated it as they didn’t want it misinterpreted. Why would they say that if they were supposedly supporting your ship.
Look, it’s you that’s wrong on Collette. “The only thing she asked was for me to put down the blade” That is Sam, Dean put down the blade for Sam. There’s multiple posts on this explaining step by step why you are incorrect, including posts by my account. Educate yourself or not 🤷♀️
A couple of writers (one a Writer’s assistant btw) interacting badly because they are narcissists on social media does not negate everyone else saying the exact opposite, they could say they were writing about a pink unicorn intentionally and unless it makes it into the text and not the “subtext” their talk is irrelevant.
I don’t read Sam and Dean fanfiction, I have 327 hours of canon television but yeah, you do you.
To everyone else, the post I made yesterday about that very small percentage, yeah, this is clearly one of them.
’Unable to interpret clear text.’ These people don’t understand basic words and phrases do they? Canon and clear text seem to be two very difficult terms for them. There is no clear text. Everything they have just mentioned are moments in the show where they’ve put 2 and 2 together to make 5. There was never any clear text in the show.
I cannot ignore the "evidence" provided. Picture 1
This isn't even a parallel one is talking about their lives in general, while the other is about romance that was specifically manipulated by god. Even IF castiel meant it romantically how does that show reciprocation? So not the same situation at all
Dean had one person in the room he witnessed vanish? Also as someone with no romantic partner, do you think he would not notice his friend / team mate vanish? Seriously? Again different situations
Completely irrelevant? He just seems upset that a human would chose to love an angel tbh
This is a bad interpretation and other clips show Sam was Collette and Abel - including Dam being the one who could get him to stop. But again Dean has no direct Collete parallel as he has no romantic partner at this time
Can I reiterate one more time Dean has no romantic partner, he has his brother and their friend Cass. Sam is sitting next to him and Cass just died so who else could Lucifer use? This is such a stretch
Bobo Beren was writer of 15.18 he is a destiel SHIPPER if he was the decision maker and could make it clear canon it would have been
Writers can be shippers, so what. Unless she was the showrunner/decision maker this is a fan post.
If the actor who played the role in every episodes opinion hold no weight a random writer of a few episodes hold wayyyyy less
The actors are irrelevant clowns especially if they are blantatly homophobic like Jensen. Meredith words are canon, Jesnen's delusional fanfiction is not
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
Canon:
Canon:
Canon:
Therefore:
How are the words of irrelevant actor canon or even worth consideration when the actual canon never implied Destiel doesn't exist?
Yes Dean loves Sam same way Cain loves Abel and loves Cas same way he loves Collete, literally the script you posted show's that, Dean couldn't reciprocate because he wa stunned and confused, no where is it stated he doesn't reciprocate.
Where is Sam the most important to Dean, he literally offered to kill him it get Cas back,not to mention he seemed way higher on Dean's priorities both in Purgatory and not only.
Also random quotes an emotionally distressed character is giving are your proof? Dean also said he would rather Sam being dead over Charlie in s10, well I guess he cares for everyone more than Sam using your logic.
Anti destiels stop embarrassing yourself,go write your fanfiction on Ao3 and leave people talk about the canon romantic plotlines of the show alone
Lol He’s not irrelevant because he played a huge part in crafting Dean in bringing him to life, and literally lived and breathed Dean Winchester for over 15 years.
Cass was never Collette, Dean barely tolerated him most of the time and I don’t think he ever once stopped for Cass, in the entirety of the series, except maybe if Cass threatened harm to him. If anyone was a Colette parallel it was Sam and Dean actually took back control of the mark and stopped when Sam called out to him to stop.
If Dean’s lack of reciprocation was purely due to being stunned it would have said “didn’t” or at least would have left it at “too stunned to respond” not “couldn’t” as “couldn’t” in this instance means “not capable”. The way it was worded is truly damming because: “could have, but didn’t because too stunned to say anything in that moment” vs “couldn’t, because sexuality not compatible” regardless of time constraints.
No, Sam and Dean offered to kill each other to get Chuck to bring EVERYONE including Cass back, with no indication that Dean had any intention to live on regardless of which scenario Chuck chose. Also, the only reason that Cass was specifically mentioned is because he wasn’t disappeared by Chuck like everyone else on earth, he was slurped away by the empty, so if they left it at “bring back everyone you disappeared” Chuck definitely wouldn’t have bothered with Cass, and as it was their friend, they had to at least ask.
Those quotes are proof because Dean meant them with his whole heart, and proved it too, as by Dean’s actions, certainly no individual person or being was ever more important to him than Sam.
The first time in purgatory he had no reason to think that Sam was in danger, so of course he was’t going to just abandon his friend without even trying. The second time however, when Dean knew for a fact that Sam was in danger from Chuck, he was literally going to abandon Cass in purgatory to run to Sam, and the only reason Cass made it out that time was because he got himself out of the mess he was in and back to Dean before Dean hopped out of the portal. Also, when he said that to Sam over Charlie, he had the Mark of Cain, was grieving Charlie and was being petty and hurtful over that, but not serious, as he’s never even considered sacrificing Sam for anyone, and would trade literally anyone for Sam (and has).
exactly he is so irrelevant despite playing him for 15 years never has gis thoughts and feelings considered for the finale, didn't even understood a vital part of the so such as Destiel.
Cas was always Collete as shown in the show and confirmed by the writer,the love of Dean's life, the man Dean couldn't survive without,his everything as he has called him. He only stopped bc if Cas, he didn't hurt Sam bc he remembered what he did to Sam, Dean's love for Cas saved Sam. He was pathetically head over heels for him even when Cas treated him badly
Dena has offered to kill Sam for Cas and Cas was so vital to Dean and Dean's survival Chuck refused to bring him back no matter what which ended up being the right call bc as proven Dean can't even live without Cas,he was crying and begging to be dead than live a life without him. Even if he cared for others Cas was always the main objective shown by the emphasis in the sentence, Cas is literally Dean's everything after all as stated by him in 13x01.
It's not even the first time Dean doesn't even care for Sam when it comes to Cas' safety, Purgatory both times, he basically didn't acre about him, in the trap especially Sam was being tortured by God and all Dean cared about was Cas , falling on his knees and begging for forgiveness (even though it was Cas who wronged him Dean didn't care Cas was vital to him). Getting Cas back from Lucifer too, Sam whining like a cry baby about how dangerous it is and Dean doesn't even care he only cares about Cas. He knows if the plan bacn tracked they would have all being killed but getting the love of his life back was what's most important not Sam.
As for Dean's reciprocation, I mean he was the one obviously in love even if he didn't know Cas felt the same and the script made it clear ,the script literally made it clear, Dean was never excepting it he was stunned and confused whe it happened,and despite that he literally told Cas not to do this,to not sacrifice himself so only he can live ,he preferred to die with him than live without him Cas had to push him away, and Dean even after doing everything to get him back he failed and chose death over a life without him,he literally begged to be dead than live with Sam or anyone that isn't Castiel after all Cas was his everything.
Is caio and this last person who wrote that destial rape monster homophobic fanfic crazy???
Bucketofme - you are probably a trolling sock frkm some crazy monster shitter...like we all know that you monster homophobes eith rape fetish never watcjed spn but this post really shows you as an idiot and nobody can take you as a normal person😂
All that nonsense you just trolled 😂😂😂
Sure baby - ugly death corpse filled bu selfish abusive ass is the looookve of deans life😂 therefpre dean gives a fuck about it whole 12 season that boring thing was in spn😘
1. Dean never was in purgatory with sam idiot and he just searched for a lost friend while thinking that sam is safe on earth - no love you idiot
2. Dean literally went for monsth while that selfish ass coinhabited the old ugly corps with lucifer - you had to skip whole season to nlt see that only sam cared for that selfish ass , dean literally just asked if they know something knes about mr.bean ass and sam said no, and dean hapilly continues to live without that monster
3. In which of the pathetic fics did yiu saw dean crying and saying that he cannot live without ass? Because datling that never happend in spn - like never😘
4. Dean literally lived with sam - finally free - happy - for years...dean stated several times in spn ( show you onviously never watched) that his only happiness is him and sam and baby - no ass poor heller😪
5. The plat to offer chuck final sacrify to bring the world back = chucks ultimative dream and plan - that sam and dean will kill eo - came from sam idiot, no dean = again something you would know if you would watch spn... dean just followed sams plan, exactly like sam did the same...no, dean never pmanned to live with the corpsfilling without his soulmate...
6. Your crazy entitlement, violance and stupidity you showed with your post ( attacking main lead who created dean, who spent hours talking with writers and producers - who often had no clue what spn is about and j2 had to debreaf them and those writers gave often j2 freedom to change lines when j2 felt them too out of character ( unfortunately not scenes - jensen publicly hated on that trenchcoat thing and everybody agreed with him;) bc they knew that only j2 know those characters and the show deeply), to spove this rant full of fanfuc bullshit... thjs is tge reasin why everybody outside of your crazy maga cult monster bubble hates destiel and its shippers..
And if you want to speak canon - sam is deans siren = text... sam is deans abel and collete = text ( pmease watch the show, not your crazy meta shit and "parallels"), sam is deans happiness, slulmate, reason to live, his only exception = canon fuckinh text!!!!!
Ass is something only in your delulu maga crazy monster head and your fics...
It was dean in text ( not some meta stupidity written by crazy destieler) who told sam how he loves him sooo much and that it was always - fucking always you idiot - just him=dean and sam! He saud it 2x!!! Me and you! To sam... no thought lost on your fave monster ... in heaven deans lost no 1 question on ass and spent 0 time with ass eventhough he knew from bobby that the energy is there somewhere... he waited for his sammy - his soulmate to be finally haply =canon text and canon scene...
Now you can take your meds and continue to read your monster fic🥰 as you did not watch spn - here some canon scenes just for you - without changes of text ( as you monster shippers use to do) or any metas...
It start with the corpse you force on poor dean...
A bunch of delusions and lies 🤣
Dean's happiness is Cas, Sam is his misery. 05x03 already adresed that 🤣 Also Cas being his happiness is literally on 13x05 script too but the other example is literally in the show
"Dean can live without Cas" Where girl the man is always suicy without him the finale being the biggest receipt.
Cas didn't have a place in the finale? The finale is all about him, they literally made the character they have been passing as the protagonist being reduced to Castiel's lovesick dog, all those dreams about normal life for nothing Cas is gone adn Dean is BEGGING to die, permanently too not just a break.
"In which episode did I saw him cry for Cas" every time Cas is lost tbh, not even dead like just lost,15x09 while his brother is being tortured by God Dean Instead if trying to save him is busy being on his knees for Cas crying and begging for forgiveness.
"he spent zero tine with Cas" babe you only Sam saw Dean in tge bringde you know nothing about what they did after or what Dean did before don't project your fanfiction into the show. If Dean wanted to be with Sam he would just be with him instead he just suicided solidifying once more Dean without Cas doesn't exist, Destiels comes in package.
I hope you take your meds now before your delusions get worse and accuse someone of doing something other than writing monstrous fanfiction.
Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.
There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.
In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”
Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.
On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.
They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.
And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.
Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.
lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.
🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.
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How are the words of irrelevant actor canon or even worth consideration when the actual canon never implied Destiel doesn't exist?
Yes Dean loves Sam same way Cain loves Abel and loves Cas same way he loves Collete, literally the script you posted show's that, Dean couldn't reciprocate because he wa stunned and confused, no where is it stated he doesn't reciprocate.
Where is Sam the most important to Dean, he literally offered to kill him it get Cas back,not to mention he seemed way higher on Dean's priorities both in Purgatory and not only.
Also random quotes an emotionally distressed character is giving are your proof? Dean also said he would rather Sam being dead over Charlie in s10, well I guess he cares for everyone more than Sam using your logic.
Anti destiels stop embarrassing yourself,go write your fanfiction on Ao3 and leave people talk about the canon romantic plotlines of the show alone
Lol He’s not irrelevant because he played a huge part in crafting Dean in bringing him to life, and literally lived and breathed Dean Winchester for over 15 years.
Cass was never Collette, Dean barely tolerated him most of the time and I don’t think he ever once stopped for Cass, in the entirety of the series, except maybe if Cass threatened harm to him. If anyone was a Colette parallel it was Sam and Dean actually took back control of the mark and stopped when Sam called out to him to stop.
If Dean’s lack of reciprocation was purely due to being stunned it would have said “didn’t” or at least would have left it at “too stunned to respond” not “couldn’t” as “couldn’t” in this instance means “not capable”. The way it was worded is truly damming because: “could have, but didn’t because too stunned to say anything in that moment” vs “couldn’t, because sexuality not compatible” regardless of time constraints.
No, Sam and Dean offered to kill each other to get Chuck to bring EVERYONE including Cass back, with no indication that Dean had any intention to live on regardless of which scenario Chuck chose. Also, the only reason that Cass was specifically mentioned is because he wasn’t disappeared by Chuck like everyone else on earth, he was slurped away by the empty, so if they left it at “bring back everyone you disappeared” Chuck definitely wouldn’t have bothered with Cass, and as it was their friend, they had to at least ask.
Those quotes are proof because Dean meant them with his whole heart, and proved it too, as by Dean’s actions, certainly no individual person or being was ever more important to him than Sam.
The first time in purgatory he had no reason to think that Sam was in danger, so of course he was’t going to just abandon his friend without even trying. The second time however, when Dean knew for a fact that Sam was in danger from Chuck, he was literally going to abandon Cass in purgatory to run to Sam, and the only reason Cass made it out that time was because he got himself out of the mess he was in and back to Dean before Dean hopped out of the portal. Also, when he said that to Sam over Charlie, he had the Mark of Cain, was grieving Charlie and was being petty and hurtful over that, but not serious, as he’s never even considered sacrificing Sam for anyone, and would trade literally anyone for Sam (and has).
exactly he is so irrelevant despite playing him for 15 years never has gis thoughts and feelings considered for the finale, didn't even understood a vital part of the so such as Destiel.
Cas was always Collete as shown in the show and confirmed by the writer,the love of Dean's life, the man Dean couldn't survive without,his everything as he has called him. He only stopped bc if Cas, he didn't hurt Sam bc he remembered what he did to Sam, Dean's love for Cas saved Sam. He was pathetically head over heels for him even when Cas treated him badly
Dena has offered to kill Sam for Cas and Cas was so vital to Dean and Dean's survival Chuck refused to bring him back no matter what which ended up being the right call bc as proven Dean can't even live without Cas,he was crying and begging to be dead than live a life without him. Even if he cared for others Cas was always the main objective shown by the emphasis in the sentence, Cas is literally Dean's everything after all as stated by him in 13x01.
It's not even the first time Dean doesn't even care for Sam when it comes to Cas' safety, Purgatory both times, he basically didn't acre about him, in the trap especially Sam was being tortured by God and all Dean cared about was Cas , falling on his knees and begging for forgiveness (even though it was Cas who wronged him Dean didn't care Cas was vital to him). Getting Cas back from Lucifer too, Sam whining like a cry baby about how dangerous it is and Dean doesn't even care he only cares about Cas. He knows if the plan bacn tracked they would have all being killed but getting the love of his life back was what's most important not Sam.
As for Dean's reciprocation, I mean he was the one obviously in love even if he didn't know Cas felt the same and the script made it clear ,the script literally made it clear, Dean was never excepting it he was stunned and confused whe it happened,and despite that he literally told Cas not to do this,to not sacrifice himself so only he can live ,he preferred to die with him than live without him Cas had to push him away, and Dean even after doing everything to get him back he failed and chose death over a life without him,he literally begged to be dead than live with Sam or anyone that isn't Castiel after all Cas was his everything.
No writer ever confirmed that, Dean has never called Cass that, nor said that about him. Genuinely, the only one Dean has actually said he can’t live without is Sam “I couldn’t live with you dead” and has demonstrated by being willing to do anything to get Sam back EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. SAM. DIED. Which is why Sam was his everything. For Cass, at most he asked for him to be brought back, but offered nothing for Cass and only Cass, because with Chuck at the end of s15 that was for everyone on earth, because Chuck poofed them away, and they threw in Cass because he was their friend and wasn’t automatically included, necessitating a specific mention to be included, because he was slurped away by the empty, not poofed away by Chuck.
He was taking a moment to say something to Cass before he left because he didn’t want to leave things with his friend on a bad note, since he was then going to get up leave purgatory and abandon Cass to run to Sam. If Dean really loved and needed Cass like that, he wouldn’t have been ready to and telling Cass that he was going to leave him in purgatory to run to Sam’s aid. Dean didn’t kill himself, his death was an accident and he only told Sam no deals or extreme measures because as Dean literally said to Sam, he was tired of running around in apocalyptic circles because deals come with consequences, but if Sam could have saved Dean without such consequences then Dean would have accepted it. Dean just didn’t see a way out without such consequences.
nice rant but none of this is true. If Deam cared for Sam more than Cas he would he wouldn't have offered him as a sacrifice, if he wanted to live without Cas he would be begging to die without him. No matter what lies Dean tells Sam Dean always puts Cas first. No matter how much in trouble Sam was or wasn't in Purgatory Dean's only focus was always Cas. Even out of Purgatory let's be fir real he could care any less about Sam's safety just for the possibility of getting Cas back from Lucifer, he only suicded for Sam in red meat bc Cas wasn't there and that pushed him over the edge, next episode he is indifferent about his safety.
Once again ship your fanfiction away forn the canon. Castiel is the love of Dean's life in the show in your fanfiction write differently if you want