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but my god. destiel is forever

As an ‘entitled fanfic’ writer I think it’s time I take all my stories down and purge everything.

Clearly this fandom don’t want my content then if this is the attitude people have towards people who give their free time over to creating something that they can enjoy.

Countless hours for this fandom, weeks, months, years, crafting stories for their enjoyment and this…this is the thanks I get. Some anonymous cunt telling me I’m entitled because I dare say that Destiel was not a canon ship in my eyes. That canonically Cas was in love with Dean but there wasn’t enough to say Dean was in love with Cas.

So you know what, fuck this fandom. You’ve finally fucking done it. That was the nail in the fucking coffin. I hate you. You fucking don’t deserve anything you toxic bunch of fucking cunts.

I fucking hate you all. You fucking did this to me. You made me feel like a worthless piece of shit during my worst moments. You stalked me. You harassed me. You literally forced me to the point of suicide when my dad had fucking died.

I’m fucking done.

Oh and if you want anybody to thank for losing the stories you enjoyed you can thank @bucketofme who decided to push one too many times and call me entitled.

bucketofme

motherfucker stop lying you have said on multiple comments you left already,now you are doing full on twist saying I am the one pushing you out. Stop with the fuckass lies.

You kept arguing, replying and quoting people telling you they don't agree with your view that they are toxic, you kept trying to force people to accept your interpretation that dean os straight amd Destiel isn't canon under a post about Destiel being canon and that you already left the fandom bc of people calling Dean canonically bi and Destiel canon but now it's me who pushed you away? Didn't you claim you were ALREADY AWAY?????

Go play the victim and delete comments all you want, people who saw the full convo know how obnoxious and aggressive you really were no matter how much you play the victim now.

#tired of hypocrites

caio-silva

Friendly reminder that Jensen was just the actor, not a writer or the showrunner. The actual writers of the show have confirmed and shown the exact opposite: yes, Dean did reciprocate.

There are multiple deliberate parallels between Dean and Cas and other couples on the show, which clearly confirm that their relationship was written romantically.

In the final season, the writers repeatedly used Sam and Eileen’s romantic relationship as a mirror for Dean and Cas’s. One example: when Eileen tells Sam she doesn’t know what’s real anymore because of Chuck, Sam kisses her and says “I know that was real.” This directly mirrors the scene earlier in the season where Dean tells Cas that nothing in their lives is real because of Chuck, and Cas replies, “You asked what about all of this is real? We are.”

Another clear parallel: Sam loses Eileen and Dean loses Cas literally in the same episode, 15x18. In fact, the entire episode where Castiel confesses was built around characters losing their love interests, starting with Charlie losing Stevie, specifically to set up and mirror Dean losing Cas at the end. The writers genuinely could not have made it any clearer.

On top of that, they introduced Adam and Serafina — a human and an angel who were deeply in love — literally one episode before Castiel’s confession. That was obviously not accidental. It was clear foreshadowing and an extremely direct parallel to Dean and Castiel. Everyone knows the biblical Adam and Eve story, but Supernatural deliberately changed the narrative specifically to mirror Dean and Cas — a human and an angel, just like Adam and Serafina.

They did the exact same thing with Cain. They didn’t even cast an actor to play Abel. Instead, they created an entirely new character, Colette, Cain’s great love, specifically so she could mirror Castiel in Dean’s life. Cain literally tells Dean, “You’re living my life in reverse,” and says that Dean will kill Cas first and then Sam. Since Cain killed his brother first and then his love interest, Dean living the story in reverse means Cas is his Colette (the love interest) and Sam is his Abel (the brother). That was extremely explicit. That is not subtext — that is text.

And finally, in episode 15x19, right after Cas’s confession and death, Lucifer impersonates Cas in order to manipulate Dean into letting him in. That is the ultimate confirmation that Dean reciprocated. The show had already established Lucifer’s consistent method: he always impersonates the person’s dead love interest in order to manipulate them into letting him in. He did it with Nick by impersonating his dead wife Sarah, with Sam by impersonating Jessica, his dead girlfriend, and with Vince Vicente by impersonating Jen, his dead lover. And he did it with Dean by impersonating Cas.

Therefore, Castiel is canonically Dean’s love interest. Destiel is canon. You cannot argue against these canon facts.

arkvark2

lol the script by Berens LITERALLY said Dean does not reciprocate. The rest of your "proof" is fanfiction. Colette was not mentioned for 1.5 seasons, the general audience does not remember her. The season Colette was mentioned, Sam literally told Dean to "stop", and Dean did. Cain said Sam's death will hurt Dean the most, not Cas.

nancylou444

🤣🤣 OP, those aren't "canon" facts. They're delusional "parallels" that mean nothing out of context.

Canon:

Therefore:

hippychick006

Friendly reminder, not a single thing you’ve written is canon fact. It is ALL interpretation which is… 🥁 🥁 🥁 … FANON!

Your first lie straight out the gate - the “writer” of that particular script, and I use that term very loosely, specifically wrote “Dean cannot reciprocate”. Now sorry to burst your safe bubble of delusion but the individual writers and their social media unprofessionalism don’t actually matter for shit. What matters is the scripts the SHOWRUNNERS approve and what is SHOWN on screen. Every single showrunner from Kripke to Drabb said this was not what the story was about. Repeatedly (in fact you really don’t want to get into the canon fact they referred to Supernatural as the love story of Sam and Dean) so what some trumped up unprofessional PA says on social media that’s written a sum of total of 0 episodes by themselves (had to be heavily edited by Drabb) is completely irrelevant. What’s relevant is what’s canon on the actual show. And. Dean. Did. Not. Reciprocate. The “exact opposite” was not in fact shown.

I’ll take another one, castiel was not Dean’s Collette, Sam was. Many of us have written extensively on this, detailing how, even with trying to trick J2 at a con to “confirm” it, Sam was both Able and Collette. In actual fact, Crowley was the BFF and Castiel was said by Cain himself to be the equivalent of the family pet.

Throughout the show Sam and Dean were paralleled with couples. E.g. Red Meat is entirely about loving someone so much you would kill to save them. In the werewolves case this was killing Sam, in Dean’s case, this was killing himself to try to make a deal to bring Sam back. At the end, the “watch the man I love die” line is about Dean and Sam, and actually it shows their relationship is even greater than that of the romantic couple because she ultimately accepted his death but Dean could not.

I’m not doing them all but every single supposed “parallel” you have joined together is interpretation to which 99% of the show audience have a different “interpretation”. It is not canon fact.

Look, no one is stopping you from your fanfiction, just stop with the weird everyone has to accept your imaginitive interpretation of what was being written as canon when the canon actually says otherwise.

You are literally this gif btw

bucketofme

Imagine being so unable to interpret clear text you call the actual canon fanon. In text Dean doesn't reject Castiel meaning Cas' feelings aren't established as unrequited and that's intentionally done that way and approved to be that way by the showrunner.

Cas being Collete isn't hard to get, that's Cain's most significant murder after Abel. That's who Cain mentioned Dean would kill before killing his meaning it is canonically established Cas is Dean's Collete, canonically established him as a love interest. Family pet was just a way to mock Cas' devotion, essentially showing to Dean who doesn't know Cas' feelings yet he can count on Cas , resulting in Dean giving him the first blade. Crowley wasn't a BFF he was more of his situationship he pretty much adressed their situationship as a fling in and it was mentioned they had sexual group activities together.

Considering the writers have told us how intentional Destiel is written to the story these aren't interpretation but hints they put there intentionally. Clearly establsihed patterns are canon.

Look nobody is stopping you form your fanfiction but keep it on Ao3 and let people talk about Destiel and other canon storylines unbothered

corpsexcquis

you cannot tell people that they lack the ability to understand the text when you yourself struggle this bad.

dean doesn’t have to explicitly reject castiel’s feelings because the entire shows tells you that he does. it starts with dean never showing attraction to men, especially not supernatural creatures and ends at dean not showing attraction to castiel at all, wether his vessel was female or male.

castiel cannot be colette for the simple fact that the parallel drawn is cain’s most important person, who managed to make him stop vs dean’s, which happens to be sam. castiel asked dean to stop and failed, sam succeeded. the parallel cannot possibly be clearer. in this arc sam is both abel and colette, because he encompasses everything for dean and vice versa.

castiel being called a family pet is mocking but it is accurate, which even dean acknowledges in scoobynatural by calling him a “talking dog”. this is cain being observant and accurately describing how dean views castiel: a tool, a devoted dog.

crowley was an ally and a friend [during the demon dean episodes]. he wasn’t a situation ship, flings aren’t only used to describe romantic situations. as for the group sex, having an orgy does not mean that crowley and dean fucked each other and it isn’t indicative of their respective sexualities.

destiel can be considered a part of the story [since it is mentioned by name once in the 200th episode] but the relationship in the proper term isn’t since you need reciprocation and it has been overly established that there was none on dean’s side. it isn’t only confirmed by jensen ackles but also by other writers [reminder that only berens wrote for destiel, some other writers — including one who admitted to not watching the first three seasons which is pretty fucking important lore to miss on — may have wanted to but that does not mean they managed to do it or get the network’s/jensen’s approval], as well as producers, show runners, cast and crew.

perhaps you should take your own advice.

bucketofme

The entire show tells me the opposite that Dean has been a man lover all along and one of those he was simping for was Castiel, so yes him not rejecting him is actually a very great sign that he actually does feel the same way.

Castiel is canonically Dean's Collete bc the parallel is drawn between Dean amd Cain and three important people in their lives. I know cetsies want the important person in Dean's life to be hi brother but he is not ,never was never will be. Sam is the brother Abel stated on multiple occasions, Cain's most important murder after his brother was his lover, Dean's, who is supposed to be in reverse as stated by Cain will be Castiel.

Cas=Collette

Sam=Abel

It's blantatly obvious no matter how you all deny it ,the writers of the episode agrees to it himself, you all have to be purposefully dense to ignore it.

"The orgies aren't indicative of their respective sexualities" yeah not necessarily but it textually adds a sexual element to the dynamic. That's what the point is,so it gives the world fling another potential to be interpreted as being something more

Destiel is part of the story bc writers wrote into it. Jensen is a nobody,he can't confirm anything and there is NOT a single person in the writing team to confirm his delusions about Dean "not reciprocating". Which is the exact reason he gets the backlash he is a sole voice that wasn't a writer and doesnt have back up grom them. Berens made a lot of callbacks in the early seasons with the confesion so it's more than safe to assume he has watched them at least for the confesion.

I agree watching the first few seasons os very important, very important to see Dean was a man lover from day one. If I recall correctly (this is the only thing I accept I might be wrong on) also Meghan didn't say she didn't watch the first season, she said the first 2 were just build up, from s3 onwards is when it gets good, that's her opinion nothing objective about it ,some people like the earlier seasons more ,some like the ones that came after, that's one of the things everyone is entitled to have their own readings on.

milleniahunterevie

Dean consistently says he prefers women. He doesn’t ‘swing that way’ when it comes to men.

These people ‘Dean has liked men from day 1.’

This is why I’ve stopped interacting. Destiel is fanon. It’s that simple.

bucketofme

Dean doesn't consistently say he prefers women he has actually a whole confesisonal talking about how futile and deathless all his relationships with were.

No he doesn't say he doesn't swing that way to state his sexuality he made a joke to Victor and a snarky remark to guy he found threatening and pulled a gun on him seconds after.

Yes he liked men from day one ,the whole show is him checking out dudes flirting with dudes having male crushea getting flsutered by fudes,h mentions hooking uo with strangers of unspecified gender, group sex with men...way toi many stuff to consider him straight. Just bc you want him to be straight doesn't mean the writers wanted it too and I think they made it clear multiple times.

"That's why I left the fandom" if you had left the fandom you wouldn't be busting our balls for a whole weew to accept your headcanons for Dean's sexuality. Literally nothing in the text or the subetxt backs up the idea of him being straight his delusional actors headcanons are literally nothing important,he is not write, none of them including the Creator have ever agreed with his bs. It would be great if you do stoo though, much appreciated.

Destiel is canon it's simple. It's also very simple Dean was bi before Cas and would have remain bi after Cas if he somehow didn't feel the same way but as we saw he prefers being dead over with anyone else.

Anyways a good meta debunking the whole Dean said he is a hetero thing bc after a week this is clearly you ragebaiting and I don't have the patience.

https://www.tumblr.com/f-ckyeahfutbol/116758065296/im-writing-this-as-a-reference-post-because?source=share

milleniahunterevie

Me rage baiting? Are you fucking serious when you are literally spewing shit like this?

This is the thing, I’m a Destiel shipper. Hell I’ve written a shit ton for this fandom. But I know for a fact Dean is not bi-sexual. It is fan fiction. It is simple as that.

The problem with this fandom is media literacy. Many people have none and they believe that the writers were doing some massive code to the fandom to subtly tell them Dean was bi-sexual. It’s like the people who believe that the Government are sending them signals through the TV. Or that celebrities are using vague hand gestures to indicate they are part of some kind of cabal or in the illuminati.

Effectively, it’s what conspiracy theorists do.

If they wanted to make Dean bi, they’d have just come out and said he fancies men as well. There was no secret agenda at CW. Nobody was saying he couldn’t be bi. That is all lies perpetrated by others. A lie that makes no sense when you see how many LGBT+ friendly shows there were on the network and when you consider one of the most senior executives is gay and married to a former professional footballer. If anybody would want a leading macho man as a queer character, it is somebody like that.

Dean was straight. It isn’t homophobic to say what is clearly spelt out in text in front of you.

bucketofme

"I ahev written fanfiction" Great go masturbate while reading that fanfiction now and leave the general public alone with your nonsense.

Destiel/Bi Dean is not fanfiction it's as simple as that. If you view this as fanfiction good for you, the people who wrote the show view this as canon so viewers like me are entitled to view ot as canon too without fanfic writers lile yourself believing they know the show better than the people who wrote it.

I agree the fandom lacks media literacy, take fo example entitled fanfic writers like yourself who know nothing about the show telling actual fans they have to listen to their misconceptions and accept as them as canon to promote their p0rn on Ao3. Yes teh writers directors set decorators and other members of the production have confirmed allt he coding was intentional. They know their show better than fanfic girlies who didn't understood what the lines the characters let out of their mouths say.

Who told Dean doesn't state his sexual attraction to men in the text? Not the writers not the character himself not the creator of the show your delusional ass and people like me should do what accept it bc..? No reason you just want us too.

As for conspiracy theories I think you should look yourself at the mirroring bc you think tens of members from the production of tv show along with fans just conspired to call a character who according to you a fanfic writer is straight, regardless of the fact that none of his writers or his creator has ever claimed that to ever be the intention for him, bisexual just because...no reason you just speaking to speak.

Aside from having direct quotes from excecs confriming those "conspiracy theories" you claim we are sharing do you have any idea how many showrunners have complained that this garbage studio didn't let them make their characters explicitly queer, especially their leads? So they resorted in subtext/coding? No? Do some research and find out. Sometimes it has to do with the rating sometimes it has to do with the audience they are marketing the show for.

"Dean wa straight" according to you,not according to any soul from the writing team or his creator. "It's not homophobic to listen to the text" except there is no text saying he is a straight. Yeah being this hellbent over a character who is intentionally written to be perceivable as queer straight does sound homophobic to me especially when you go rant to queer men who identity with his queer coding about it.

milleniahunterevie

Wow what a charming and lovely person you are.

I was going to write a massive response to this but you genuinely aren’t worth my fucking time.

Oh and us entitled fanfic writers? We’re the ones who saw Destiel and ran with it. Giving people like YOU more content for the ship.

The only entitled ones here are people like you and that is precisely why I no longer give the fandom my time. Because why should I bother writing for a ship that has given me nothing but trouble. That has resulted in people like YOU besmirching my name and insulting me because I had a different view to others.

Don’t come at me because your upset people don’t see Destiel and Jensen doesn’t see it either. But considering you are clearly Dotthings, I shouldn’t be surprised you’re attacking others because that is all you fucking do.

bucketofme

I am charming and loving with the people that are worth,the other person my friend that people confused me for on twitter can testify, as for Dott of course I am not her, why would you think I could possibly have anything to do with anyone who stans that homophobic piece of shit Jensen is beyond me.

Yes if you go to bi/queer mens posts to invalidate their read on Dean's sexuality, which happena to be the correct read that Dean is bisexual that's how his writers wrote him as a bi man in love with Castiel,you are entitled as fuck.

For days you said you left the fandom yet for days you are here busting my balls amd other bi men's balls to accept your straight Dean fanfiction as canon and ignore his canon bisexuality ,we won't, so keep your word and leave and stopping an entitled annoying brat. Understood?