this whole thing between us

jean | 24 | she/her

[buddiesbuddiess]

It’s crazy because…if they handled the finale differently I don’t think people would have been as mad about the queerbaiting. Buddie wouldn’t have even had to officially be canon. We could’ve ended the season on Eddie deciding to stay In LA himself, 1-3 buddie one on one interactions, resolving their issues, a scene of the Buckley-Diazes at home (since Buck hasn’t officially moved out anyway) and it would’ve left us with enough hope going into next season and happy that Buck and Eddie finally have each other again. But since it was written by Kristen Reidel and she has a hard-on for separating buddie and doesnt understand the characters, we instead got Eddie staying because Chim told him to, no real resolution to buddie’s season-long conflict, no conversation whatsoever between Buck and Eddie, and Buck entirely back to square one: alone, unsure of his place in the world, looking for a home that he might never find.

[weird-goodbyes]

Maddie received no pushback for telling a caller to kill themselves, Brad saying that his captain hotshots or whatever is going to live so the guy can’t kill himself, “don’t jump” being thrown around at Buck when Gerrard was captain in the beginning and the captain at the end is Gerrard (I know he’s leaving), guy who struggled with suicidal ideation ends up having to sacrifice himself after finally deciding he wants to live, Athena is building her dream home just to lose her husband and sell it, Chimney on top of the roof before the Bobby funeral only for him to appear headed for a job he’s never really seemed like he’s wanted, Hen having a whole episode about being forgotten and it being okay to take up space deciding that she’s not going to be captain actually. guys. I think the recurring theme of the season is that it’s good to give up on your dreams and maybe dying is okay actually.

[buddiesbuddiess]

Buck ended the season homeless and bitchless all because they were too scared to make Eddie a mankisser

[buddiesbuddiess]

Yeah exactly. People act like oliver himself wrote or cut scenes and then organized a buddie themed press tour. That was abc, disney, 911 bosses. They knew what would keep the fans watching after angering them and then they leave the actors to deal with the backlash again.

It was so good to see them all having fun together and getting to share their opinions on where things might or should go, but oliver has been very clear about not KNOWING. About "I just work here". Even told us they probably won't revisit that eddie conversation because tim had other plans and it got pushed aside. Clearly he wasn't happy with that either. He's been playing buck for 8 years, of course he wants a storyline that sticks around.

Exactly, and I know it’s gotten a bit lost in the (rightful) frustration about the marketing, but this was the first time in a long while we’ve seen Oliver able to freely talk about buddie and he did it with thoughtful answers, compassion and also a sense of fun because he was getting to play off Ryan. But he never once lied, he was answering questions the best he could in a thoughtful and honest way without leading people on. He was getting asked CONSTANTLY. It’s not his fault the questions are being asked, it’s the marketing team’s and Tim’s for setting something up with no follow through.

But every time Oliver breathes people take it as a buddie hint so he was always going to get crucified. Both him and Ryan were completely hung out to dry with that press tour and thrown to the wolves. They actually did their best not to give false hope while clearly under strict instructions to promote buddie.

[buddiesbuddiess]

Verrry much agree and that has happened to oliver a lot actually. In 8a he talked about buck and bobby's relationship being the most important to him and teasing his favorite scene for 8x6 between them - scene got cut. And now bobby is dead and oliver said he went quiet when he found out (2 weeks before filming!) and sobbed while filming it.

They do not tell their actors anything!

Same with buddie in s7. They were SO excited, hyping up 7x4 and then the bachelor party/karaoke. Scene got cut, buddie didn't happen. Buck was once again dating but it didn't go anywhere. Exactly what they said wouldn't happen.

Now this season they were obviously "revisiting" his feelings and tommy's suspicions, with all of us getting excited because that had to mean something, right? And again, tim has some wild idea and the stories we've been waiting for get pushed aside.

People who blame oliver or any other actor need to get a grip. Do they really think this was something he wanted for himself or for buck?

Exactly. That’s why he’s stopped teasing scenes before they air. Because he never has any idea of they’re going to air or not.

It’s insane that people think the actors are baiting and laughing at us when it’s obvious to anyone with eyes that this entire back half of the season has been just as baffling and frustrating for them as it has been for us. They’ve just got the additional problem of being handed the unpleasant task of being forced to do positive promo for it.

[buddiesbuddiess]

You will never be able to convince me that Oliver Stark wasn’t baited right alongside us. Remember his pre-8x11 interview all the way back in February? When he was asked if there was more to explore regarding Buck’s feelings from 7x04? And his response? “Definitely.” And then he said “They’re going be explored in a way more obvious than has ever been done before on the show.”

I really get the sense he was just as under the impression as we were that they were setting something more up with buddie. Because he has now said in more current interviews several times that “the personal stories were thrown to the wayside” for the Bobby death plot. And it’s only now that he’s having to re-contextualise 8x11 when he gets asked about it, because there’s now nothing else he can say except “Buck shut it down and I guess it might be explored later on if Tim Minear feels like it.”

That’s why he’s gone so hard into falling back on his “I just work here.” Because all he can do is just wait until he gets the script and see if anything changes.

[buddiesbuddiess]

People need to stop coming for Oliver omfg. It’s very clear he sees the potential in buddie and that’s why he’s always been very receptive to it, he’s always been the most vocal about the fact that he doesn’t think we’re insane because he sees what we see. Yet at the same time he reiterates over and over that it’s not up to him, he doesnt make the writing decisions and he doesn’t know where it’s going to go. Even his answers about the finale were a gentle way of letting us know not much was going to happen. But people pick and choose which of his answers to listen to and then go at him when the made-up subliminal messages they think he’s sending end up not being real.

Hes actually allowed to have his personal opinions on the ship without people thinking he’s lying to them. He’s never once lied.

We were absolutely queerbaited. But we were queerbaited by Tim, ABC and the marketing team. Not by actors who have no say and are just trying to make sense of the confusing writing they’re given because they’re the ones who get asked by press to interpret it.

[buddiesbuddiess]

So Buck is ending the season learning to be on his own. Except he already learned that lesson in 8x11. And in season 6. And in season 3. And in season 2. And at the end of season 1. Does he start every season having experienced some offscreen head trauma that leads to amnesia about the lessons he learned in the last one? Considering how much of this show now happens offscreen, that might as well be canon.

[buddiesbuddiess]

They literally had the perfect recipe for Eddie realising LA in his home all by himself right in the palm of their hands and they fumbled it. He was already CALLING it home last episode. Then this episode: The 118 about to fall apart, Buck about to transfer, the team being in danger, Eddie being the one to come in and save them and bring the team back together. It was literally right there and then for some reason at the last minute they decided after all that he was still just gonna go back to El Paso until one random line from Chim made him change his mind?

[buddiesbuddiess]

The way they have 2 months to go to peter krause begging and grovelling on their hands and knees so they can get his ass in that government lab STAT. And since Nashville is gonna be a flop anyway they may as well offer him double the pay as an apology

[buddiesbuddiess]

Also guys don’t let them let you think that your complaining doesn’t work. They 100% quickly rewrote and shot those “Eddie getting the news” shots last minute because we all complained about him finding out offscreen. So keep complaining 😂

[buddiesbuddiess]

It’s pretty clear they’ve recently decided to use Ravi as a textual cockblock for buddie scenes lol. They just insert him there whenever they’re scared a scene is gonna look too gay.

[buddiesbuddiess]

They way Eddie Diaz literally can’t have anything. Can’t have a real conversation with his son about the issues between them. Can’t be involved in the arc where his captain literally dies. Can’t even be given the agency to make his own decision about where his home and family is - just has to be told to stay by Chimney and that’s it?? This entire shit show was utterly and entirely pointless and for nothing. All it achieved was having him offscreen for half of 8b. Thats literally it.

[buddiesbuddiess]

When will they realise that the common denominator for all the worst-received episodes of the season is Kristen Reidel

[eddiegettingshot]

the thing is that they started doing it. buddie canon 811 not for nothing. i mean literally anyone with eyes can see where things were going. in 811. they committed to it. and then whatever happened, happened, so NOW we’re in a position where oliver stark has to go out there and be like Oh haha who knows what that’s about!! It’s probably nothing!!!!! No yeah that just basically happened and we don’t need to think about it anymore! Not sure what that’s about! and like. it LOOKS BAD. it looks actually really awful. to be saying that. because they actually did open the door to something and then could not follow through with it.

[buddiesbuddiess]

Maybe we should go back to the times when if press mentioned buddie they’d get taken out the back and shot LOL

[livingincolorsagain]

im just. not a single storyline this season had satisfying conclusion. not the texas arc for eddie. not bathena rebuilding the house. not bobby dying. not madney expecting a second child. not henren adopting mara. not chris returning home. not whatever the fuck was buck’s storyline this season. nothing that happened makes. so much was done either offscreen or in a rushed montage at the very end of the episode. why. just why.