johnthorpeistheworst

An appreciation for all things Jane Austen and British period dramas.

[catmorland82]

I couldn't get the idea of a modern Mansfield Park with Tom Bertram as a crypto-currency failson and Henry Crawford as a crypto-aligned "effective altruist." Anyhow, it'll likely take me forever, but here's the second chapter.

Chapters: 2/? Fandom: Mansfield Park - Jane Austen, AUSTEN Jane - Works Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Edmund Bertram/Fanny Price Characters: Fanny Price, Edmund Bertram, Henry Crawford, Mary Crawford, Sir Thomas Bertram, Maria Bertram, Julia Bertram Additional Tags: Modern Era Summary:

A modern adaptation of Mansfield Park that is set primarily in the wealthy North Chicago suburbs. The intelligent and introspective Frannie Perez goes to live with close family friends, the Bertrams, when her father, a career naval officer, is stationed in the Middle East. Thomas Bertram, III, is the wealthy owner of a private equity fund, and the father of four children, who make questionable decisions with their time and family money.

[catmorland82]

So I went down the Wikipedia rabbit hole. I was looking at Lily Allen's wiki and saw that she was in 2:22 A Ghost Story... and that sounded vaguely familiar so I clicked on it and was like, oh yeah, Felix Scott was in that... so of course, I clicked on his name and... THERE IS A DIFFERENT AGE LISTED! Wikipedia now has his birthday listed as January 6, 1982. I know I've had this discussion a couple times here -- that the date that was listed there (and still is on sites like imdb) seems wrong. It's listed as June 10, 1975. Anyhow--I remember saying once that I had assumed he was around my age, so I choose to believe that the new Wikipedia birthdate is correct (because I was born in 1982!).

[catmorland82]

At the end of Season 5/Episode 4, Patrick Nash is ostensibly headed for Australia to start a new life. But what if he wasn't? This story supposes that maybe he went back to Paris instead and met up with his old buddy Moses.

My first fanfic!! Hope you like it!

(I don’t know French, so if any of that is wrong -- apologies! Also, I was probably too indulgent with my epilogue. haha!)

[formissscarlet]

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[catmorland82]

I got Patrick Nash lol

[catmorland82]

Something that still really bugs me about episode 4 is the idea that Eliza would value turning in the swindler who scammed Mrs. Parker more than keeping Patrick out of prison. I get that it's just a plot device to ship Nash off again, but like, it's not like turning him into the police would get Mrs. Parker her money back-- the money is gone! It just seems completely out of character for Eliza to care more about "justice" than one of her very few friends!

[catmorland82]

I finished season 5 -- a couple additional thoughts.

I thought it was kinda boring after Patrick's exit. I mean, of course I'd think this as a diehard Scarnasher... but also, like, I'm willing to admit that William was bringing something to this show 🤣 I've said before that it seems that, this season, Eliza is much more established and respectable -- in Ep. 4, she's the Duke to Patrick's Miss Scarlet -- and I dunno that I think the show works as well when she's not the scrappy lady detective fighting for respect. Also, even if Inspector Blake isn't as much of "you'd have to stay home and raise my children" as William, the problem still remains that he couldn't be married to a private detective. (Although, I guess that's why we were introduced to the high powered government lady spy.)

[catmorland82]

They always write Nash off.

It's not really spoiler-y, but I do reference season 5.

So here's why I'm bullish on why I think we'll see Patrick Nash again if the show gets a season 6. They always write him off, but then he always returns. I think it's best to think of seasons 2 and 3 as one long season because they wrote and filmed them back-to-back, so they knew that Felix Scott was in for both seasons. They sent Nash to France at the end of season 3, and they sent him to prison at the end of season 4. In season 5, they've sent him to Australia. I get that in Victorian England, this would mean he would never return, but I don't think it matters in the Miss Scarlet Universe! For goodness sakes, they had Eliza and Patrick playing poker and drinking whiskey in the warden's office -- this show is not concerned with remaining true to Victorian England! So maybe he befriends a wealthy old man on the ship whose dying wish was to see Australia, and he's so charmed by Patrick that he leaves him his fortune -- I dunno! I just think the show's creators like to keep their options open -- they've written off so many characters*! But I think Nash is the only one who always returns...

*Rupert Parker to Germany, Hattie Parker to Amsterdam [?], Moses to France, William to New York-- I dunno if I'm missing anyone else...

[soendgame]

Actually he has a lot more to offer

[catmorland82]

I lol'd.

[catmorland82]

My Thoughts on Episode 4

Obviously, spoilers ahead!

As I was watching this episode, my main thought was, I've seen this show before -- this is Miss Scarlet and the Duke. Only Patrick Nash is Miss Scarlet and Miss Scarlet is the Duke! I'm not clear on how much time was to have passed between seasons, but obviously Eliza is doing well for herself, so what seemed like a crushing blow at the end of last season did not turn out that way. And much more than before, she is Respectable. It's obvious (to me, anyhow) that if she could be an actual Scotland Yard detective, that would be her dream job, but a close second is what she has now -- she's not like those other private detectives, she is Respectable.

And now we have Nash, who is put in just the worst situation. But much like early seasons Eliza, the only way to get his Duke (5th season Eliza) to help is to trick her into it/just count on the fact that when push comes to shove, she will help. I agree with others that her caring more about justice for Mrs. Parker (MRS. FRIGGIN' PARKER) than keeping Patrick out of jail seems completely out of character, but I kinda think that was just a deux es machina for the episode. I don't think it's fair to have expected her to put him up in her house. It's one thing to house an injured detective who was like a son to her father and TOTALLY another thing to house a recently released convict. So on the whole, I actually thought the story arc was pretty solid. I get that it's not the ScarNash of my dreams, but also, they could have just dropped the character after sending him to prison...

I REALLY liked the goodbye, though. Patrick figured out a way to have a new start, and he left her with a meaningful goodbye and a meaningful parting gift. I hated the "look what you made me do" way William left. And it really seemed to me that Patrick understood that for Eliza, the detective work wasn't just a job, but a calling. So he "gifts" her the criminal to bring to justice, but also relieves her of having to worry about him being the Miss Scarlet to her Duke. And if we get a Season 6 of this show, I am like 95% certain we'll see Patrick again, even though the writers are sending him to Australia right now. I mean, they had them (a lady detective and an Irish convict) chilling in the warden's office while he was in prison, and then he got early release (again, as an Irishman in an English jail in the 1880s) -- obviously, they're not shooting for historical accuracy! Even though the show creators don't see the ScarNash vision, they obviously have a soft spot in their heart for this friendship. So I guess, in the end, I liked this episode. And I'm hoping for a season 6, so we can have another Eliza/Patrick/Clarence episode!

[catmorland82]

I'm not gonna lie, I like Inspector Blake more than I thought I would. Tbh, might be because the bar was set so low by William. I've watched the first half of season 5, and don't want to spoil it for those who haven't, but I will say that there wasn't as much Nash as I was hoping for, but the fact that I like the new guy more than I thought I would really makes up for that. Also, Nash looks good as a prisoner haha (THE CURLS!!!) #CurlsfortheGirls #HowdoesPatricklooksofine? #Conjugalvisit?

[catmorland82]

Just devoured this. My fave part was Paul Bazely's teaser: "...What’s very exciting for Clarence this season is that he gets to leave the office, because I never had any scenes outside the office last year, and this year that means I get a coat and I get to wear my coat outside.” I totally get it! I want to wear a Miss Scarlet coat, too!

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[catmorland82]

I was thinking about the character "Patrick Nash" and thought, they could have actually given him sons. Haha. Like, he could have had a wife -- who could have become an additional female character on a show that could really use more female characters (especially in season 4). I mean, he's kinda Chekhov's hot eligible bachelor...

[catmorland82]

A break from Scotland Yard

I spend too much time thinking about Miss Scarlet (It's a mental escape right now!), but I was thinking recently about how the Duke's departure really freed the storyline from Scotland Yard. I hope that this continues into Season 5. (Obvs, I want to see Fitzroy and I even have a soft spot in my heart for Phelps... also I know there is to be a new handsome inspector... but still.) I think it was nice to see our girl out there working without having to simultaneously be battling the misogynist cops who (besides Fitzy) LOVED to take her down a peg. I think instead of bringing a The Duke replacement into the mix, I'd have Miss Scarlet take on mentorship to a scrappy young woman -- Two Lady Detectives!! Can you imagine?!

One thing that also really struck me about the back half of season 4 is that Eliza never had to be rescued -- like in the first 3 seasons, there were often times where William (reluctantly) or Moses (less reluctantly, but also not exactly enthusiastically) would have to save her from some danger she had gotten herself into. Nash never had to save Eliza because he was always there with her! I guess I hope this dynamic continues into season 5. Or, if I had my two lady detectives storyline, I'd have Miss Scarlet doing the rescuing!

[catmorland82]

Something that bugs me about 4 x 04 is that William is never jealous about all the time Eliza is spending with Patrick. I mean, all William wants is a couple of minutes to tell her he loves her, but he can't get them because she's spending literally all her time with another man! I get that the writers weirdly never saw Nash as a romantic rival, but even if William didn't see him as competition, you'd still think he'd be jealous of all the time Eliza was spending with him!

[angelsleeps]

4 x 06

But I want you to think I’m a good person.

That will never happen Patrick.

No… But I’ll always keep trying.

[catmorland82]

I've always thought 4 x 06 was full of pleading. P pleads with E to stay out of his business. E pleads with P to not kill his brother's murderer. And in this heartbreaking scene, P is pleading with E to be OK. When she grabs his hand, it's like she's responding, "and I'll always keep trying, too," because it's important to P that she's OK. It's just such a beautiful scene!

[catmorland82]

I don't see why you would have Patrick gift her business cards this way if there isn't some intention of him as a romantic interest. Just saying.

[catmorland82]

My first post! I was directed to this Tumblr from Twitter, and I am loving reading all the scarnash posts! I thought I'd add my two cents. I don't think episode 04 × 06 makes any sense if there's not a future relationship between these two. Eliza's passionate pleading with Patrick to not shoot his brother's killer for HER sake, if not for his, because he's the only one to ever really have faith in her is, I think, the most raw, authentic emotion we've ever seen from her. It somewhat reminds me of her spontaneous suggestion that William join her agency instead of moving to Glasgow -- to which William responded as if she'd slapped him in the face! But Patrick is touched that she cares for him so much -- and you can see this in his reaction! And then the scene in the jail cell -- it's clear JUST how much the admiration goes both ways. I just never really saw this mutual admiration between the eponymous Miss Scarlet and the Duke. William was just like her dad, impressed, sure, but also always discouraging her from going any further. TBH, I think Stuart Martin deciding he wants to leave the show makes more sense for the show, than some storyline where William and Eliza could work out their fundamentally different feelings on what her life should be. Anyhow, ScarNash forever!!