honestly when I see someone shipping julie w someone that isn't gideon, it doesn't feel like they actually care about julie, it just feels like they want her paired up with someone else so gideon can yaoi out. which is like, fine, whatever, but I like julie. I care abt her. julie and kyle have been my rarepair of choice since 2021. ken is their gay bestie. they just have such a "you're the only bitch in this entire world who can handle me" thing going on and I cherish it
julie isn't evil, she's like, mean at most. gideon is a serial abuser, stalker, and kidnapper, and I know it's not that serious given the tone of scott pilgrim, but spto just does... nothing with it
his sad meow meow arc added nothing to his character. JULIE should have been the pathetic one. she is the definition of a pathetic woman. she is not "girlboss", she has a massive inferiority complex that kept her in a mutually toxic and unhappy relationship and drives her to surround herself with cool women in hopes of making herself look cool by association. her bitchy attitude is a deflection. she is so insecure. I mean, my girl was jealous of knives chau. not even ramona was jealous of knives, and scott actually DID cheat on them
julie has incredibly low self-esteem
I don't think her and stephen were ever in love, I just think that he made julie feel wanted. she feels unlovable and worthless, so she pushes everyone away, and stephen just happens to be the one that comes back. I haven't read the books in a while but stephen's attitude towards julie felt pretty apathetic, and it's not a stretch to assume that he was using her to avoid coming to terms with being gay. it's like, SO toxic but I can't blame either of them. julie just wants to feel secure and stephen is in the closet. julie takes out her frustrations at herself on others in an attempt to push them away, and stephen is lying to himself, which hurts them both
I am sympathetic towards both of them but they were mutually shitty and no I don't think julie deserves to be treated as evil as gideon for that actually. especially when stephen is treated like a martyr
I can't imagine how the final breakup went. much different from the previous ones, no doubt, but I don't think of the specifics. does stephen tell her he's gay? does he just say he's met someone else? is seeing someone else? is it mutual?
we know that julie moves to quebec sometime after they break up. it's not specified why. but I imagine the breakup with the one person who kinda tolerated her was not easy on her. she probably felt used. worthless, again. just tired of trying
so, she did the "cool girl" thing and left. ramona style, you know?
I can imagine gideon with julie but not julie with gideon. it mirrors ramona and gideon's relationship, so, like ramona and gideon, unless both of them went through some interesting character development, I just couldn't see it lasting. someone should write a fic about that, I'd read it
but yeah. julie is pathetic, insecure, attention-seeking, and self-destructive. she acts like a cold bitch to drive people away, and is consistently lonely because of it. a relationship with gideon, who is, by all means, egotistical, cold, and distant, would be so terrible for both of them
the reason I like her and the katayanagis' friendship, despite how little we know about them, is because they are loyal. they've already gone through the development that it would take gideon to have a healthy relationship with julie, they've already had their shitty boyfriend phase and have left it as better people, honestly. they have a great bond with each other, and they could so easily adopt julie into their friendship! it's just...
the katayanagis, to me, aren't really evil. the worst they do is kidnap kim and that doesn't even hold a CANDLE to gideon. their hatred of ramona is justified, and at worst they're petty... but for good reason, imo
I feel like it'd be so good for julie to incline towards them because she sees them as cool people who will, again, make her cool by association, and then it turns out they're these dramatic robotics nerds who just have a fashion sense and a theatrical flair. cause that's so what they are. to me
so now julie is forced to hang out with these weirdo uptight geeks, and it's sooo good for her. they all go shopping together. they bitch and gossip. they complain about how their exes used them. they are so close and committed and loyal cause God knows they'd never let a bitch tear them apart ever again. the katayanagis are so "it's not me vs you, it's us vs the problem" yknow? I think they'd understand her. they could love her right. kyle picks outfits for her. you see my vision.
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