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Gave TMK some fits for when he goes out in public lol
I fear that my sense of humor is just becoming "haha curse word funnyy!" ...
probably what ppl think if Sanzang describe to them who his disciples are
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Dunno if this counts as a spoiler??
Was anybody going to tell me season 5 was already out or was I just supposed to find it out myself on tiktok š©š©š©šāØļø
This was basically the last two seasons, right?
Sandy: Boats and Tea
I wanted to do a small environment study of Sandy's boat and his love of tea. It's not much but this is what I've had so far. Hope to see more in season 5. Hope you enjoy it. :)
I want to go over the individual places on the ship that sandy seems to live in to get a better understanding of Sandy. As well as just trying to get a better understanding of the boat's schematics.
I also want to get a closer look at Sandy's love of tea is there maybe more?
That's what I got I may love Wukong but that does not mean I don't love this big guy!!
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Which of these Kittys would you take home or best resemble your own special buddy.
Thank you :)
It has been finished but i lowkey love the original for the smoll things
funfact: i basically forgot how i rendered the last piece and did something completely different and then i looked back at my wukong/macaque piece and went "OHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
congrats me
this was also harder as i used the same canvas size but i needed a bigger one soo.... yep ps. imsick, i need someone to knock me out with a sqeuaky hammer
Me and my super talented friend @camilieroart had some fun reanimating a Lego Monkie Kid clip (season 5, episode 1) with different character designs! It was a fun exercise and I learned a lot š!
We both did a bit of everything but I mostly did the keyframes and @camilieroart did the in-betweens. Lip-synching was a team effort and it was hell āØ
I love macaque but if my ex-best friend tries to steal my identity after i worked so hard to change and became better I'll probably be pissed of too because wtf
like I don't get why is it such a hot take to say that wukong anger towards macaque is justifiable because it is
macaque was also going to kill his companions and replace them with clons (at least in jttw) like yeah wukong definitely did some mistakes but that doesn't mean he's not allowed to be angry about this like lmk fandom need to understand that this anger is not one sided for a good reason
I...honestly can't help but feel off about trying to use material from JTTW to justify things over at LMK.
Especially in this case when, from what we have, it seems like the situation channels more from 2009's Monkey King in regards to the Six Eared Macaque than anything from the novel; with however it ending very badly in this case with his corruption arc winding with him dead or something similarly bad (or worse), rather than managing to purify and save him.
To go back with another example, it would be like also using the instance of the feast of the monkey demon killed by Sha Wujing and eaten by the SEM and the rest of the monkeys, to then try to say that the LMK monkeys would then have cooked and eaten MK's corpse had he fallen in battle against Azure Lion at Flower Fruit Mountain, and that the show is written around having to see them as so because it happened in the novel.
Especially if not then applying all the novel unless explicitly contradicted. It means Demon Bull King must somewhat justifiedly hate Pigsy because his former incarnation, Zhu Bajie, killed off his consort and the accompanying household, and also Nezha for dragging him off to the Celestial Realm to redeem him/force him to comply under the judgement of the Jade Emperor, for example too.
It means we have to see Red Son as either still a monk who is thus potentially getting in trouble over his seeming growing relationship with Mei as it may interact with his vows, or that he forsook them long ago to return to villainy alongside his family, walking away from (granted, tightly enforced as well in his case too) redemption.
Or it means having to take into account the aspect of Wukong slaying the group of bandits as he did just before the Macaque encounter, utterly horrifying Tripitaka to the point he explicitly then told the disguised Macaque he would rather die of thirst than drink water brought by him being what finally leads to the attack before leaving with the scriptures, just like Tripitaka also used the fillet in a prolonged form when Wukong himself tried to apologize before until he left, to also note on this very scenario.
But it very much doesn't seem to at all be reflected in the show, which is certainly inspired by the novel and definitely is made by people who are fans of all it's many divergent adaptions, but is very much it's own work, as something done by people who cherish all it's different versions and poured into doing a new incarnation of it's spirit; especially so in the characterization of the cast and the very deliberate changes it does to the background.
So on so forth, until the characters start looking very differently from how the series treats them as being from what we have (limited on purpose as it may have been). There are quite good reasons already in the show for having Wukong angry with Macaque, be it being left underneath the mountain while sealed rather than keeping him company regardless of responsibilities and potential further context because it was such a dire situation all over, as well as the whole of Macaque's actions over the first three seasons.
I also similarly can definitely understand using it for personal headcanon, for specific fanfic takes, fanarts, and so on. But using it to justify and judge for the show's take on the characters as said...it feels quite awkward, and prone to lots of cherry picking from the novel all over.
To be fair the show itself cherry pick from jttw and people always use jttw to justify hating on wukong i know lmk is deferent from jttw but some stuff from jttw is cannon in lmk so I feel that this is as close to cannon plus my point is that people victimise macaque when he isn't a victim I mean he literally tried to kill mk
You are absolutely right on both accounts.
The show totally cherry picks from the novel, but it is so as to craft a new version, rather than just backport; as is a good fair tradition for the folktales and myths of China being taken into new incarnations and retold over and over into new shapes to both remain fresh and new to those who know older adaptations, and to reach new people, generation after generation getting to enjoy the tales of the Great Sage Equal To Heaven. And even further so for LMK seeing it isn't an adaptation at all or even a continuation, but rather a work inspired by the characters and ideas of the novel, but rather a full on reinvention in a very different time.
To go back to the point of the use of the novel to backport justifications; it to me feels like trying to use for example, the Injustice version of Superman, who is internally coherent in his own story and specific tale and follows on it's ideas from the premise (even if we can totally disagree with it) to craft that specific variant, to then argue that all versions of Superman are just one really bad evil plot away from snapping and becoming an evil dictator in the name of forcing down peace on everyone, when that flies against the characterization and stories of hundreds of Superman tales and variants through time.
Attempting to do that to any of the characters of LMK just...it just feels wrong for the same reason to me. The novel shouldn't be used to shame on the canonical LMK Wukong, nor to cast doubt into his connection with his version of the Pilgrims he visibly cherished and still cherishes warts and all, or to try to break the DBK and PIF romance, and so on. Especially not coming fresh from Season 5; where we even learn the world can and has been destroyed and reborn countless times, and yet MK and the groups risked it all, even the potential doom of the Great Cycle, because this is the world and the specific version of the people they have learned to cherish from the bottom of their hearts; and so it can be for us, knowing of the many retellings, and yet loving and enjoying this or many specific of them, on a personal level because they are the ones that have touched us.
Finally on the aspect of the victimization. I am a firm believer that one of the most complicated elements of the relationship between both Macaque and Wukong, is that both have victimized one another in different accounts in different ways; out of, well, them just being young when they met likely and then never learning to better their issues, and having their bond stress tested with a war alongside many long festering problems from before leading it to detonate as it did, and then keep exploding further down the line. It certainly is my wish for Season 6, to address all the complexities it has, and also to indeed all the wrongs unaccounted, both between themselves, but also with others (and Macaque has a very much quite larger debt to pay there by far. I do suspect something is up there in what I think is a very disturbing way, but that is a different matter). And I think the writers do acknowledge it, as why they cut off the attempt between both to reach out at the almost end of the world: because there is too much to get into for it to be fixed by a handhold and they should get to it in an environment not pushed along by the pressure of imminent death. It just wouldn't be fair to anyone at all to do that, especially with the next season being set to fully engage with it, after two seasons fully invested into identity and memories and the secrets of the past and how it made the people around into who they are.
I admit my view on the fandom is somewhat limited, as I arrived to it quite late; after season 4, and thus further skewed in my favor by knowing actively of all revealed in-between, of the mutual harm and pain done from both accounts (even if not evenly of course, as said, Macaque's debt count is bigger). But this is to me, it always has been, the centerpiece of how love and pain are so interlocked together, which also heavily ties into Wukong's arc of learning that he deserves to be loved, just because, not because he is useful and fixes problems, with and without errors and failures, being or not the strongest; that he isn't just a living, not weapon, but shield, who has to eat the hits from anything to keep all others behind him and safe, the last (monkey)man standing on who everything has to ride by the end always. That he should allow others to just love him as it is, because they choose to.
The fandom can certainly do it's own takes then, yes, and maybe they manage to do something else that is engaging too, I can even enjoy it on the side as a snack or on it's own merit separately in my case, while I keep it separate from the series...but the show itself, I do hope it keeps speaking to me by doing as said above, with all the love it has for it's story and characters.
And...that's it, I think...
I agree with you but I also feel like it somewhat implied that macaque did try to replace wukong like in season one where he trick it mk into replacing wukong with him as a mentor and shapshifting into wukong in season 2 to tell mk that he did choose wrong (though mk thought he was just hallucinating) also the whole thing of macaque thinking that wukong replaced him with the pilgrims so he's trying to replace him I don't know if I'm reading to much to it but it feels a bit implied at least
No, no, I get it with all the oblique references to it, and Macaque himself even being the one to note to MK to read on the novel about it.
But, while this is also my reading here, the thing is that the myths themselves also seem shifted. See for example Tang blanking on who Guanyin's enchanted vase was used on, when they know quite well about Red Boy/Son, who it was used on.
And moreover, my interpretation of it, is that Macaque's worst quality, the one that is core to his villainy?
It's him being a spineless coward. When he tries to kill Wukong at his angriest and most violent, he punches down and goes after MK and his powers first because. When he trauma dumps, he does it on MK first and Tang later, who aren't threats to him at that point. The entirety of season 3 is him working of being such a coward he does as the Lady Bone Demon says and doesn't even try to ally with the Monkie Kid gang to work together and take her down out of being such a doormat, who also bizarrely seems to think working with Wukong is going to kill him faster than fighting against him despite that maybe killing him in the past (thus part of why he only joins when he is possessed; it is a very genuine belief there that allying with him will almost immediately kill him off).
It even extends to the past, even if maybe it teetered between caution and cowardice more, into both him and Wukong settling into their roles of leader-follower out of both of their personalities and interplay, and not talking more against the plan of the Rebellion, and with the potential hint that he either left mid-fight or didn't save Wukong from when he called him out on seemingly not rushing to help him underneath the mountain.
And then he...goes from wanting to feel out and talk about the situation with Wukong, to trying to kill off the Pilgrims while the Monkey King is guarding them without a beat, while still remaining as the aforementioned coward, and sticks around to the point where it kills him rather than flee as he consistently does so when things go wrong on him until the season 3 special with the very powers he has that excel at it?
And while we now get the reveal that his powers may not be his, but rather granted through deal as additional detail? While it gets extra attention put onto it by having MK also get the other similar powers granted to him? It...feels very off all over.
It gives me too much of a similar vibe to how, the nature of MK and his powers as heir of the Monkey King were just meant to be taken at face value until season 4, which then goes out of it's way to hit us with a tomato on the mirror and call out that we, alongside the characters, should totally have questioned it a lot more over, as he is revealed to be a celestial primate, and then season 5 revealing even further.
I hope it makes sense there with this specific subject.
It has been finished but i lowkey love the original for the smoll things
funfact: i basically forgot how i rendered the last piece and did something completely different and then i looked back at my wukong/macaque piece and went "OHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
congrats me
this was also harder as i used the same canvas size but i needed a bigger one soo.... yep ps. imsick, i need someone to knock me out with a sqeuaky hammer
oh yeah it's valentines day here lovey dovey monkeys
Artwork for my fic pspspspspsp
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I heard a theory that macaque disguised himself as wukong and this wukong was the one who met xianglu, I don't really believe in this theory but... imagining this happening is funny to me.
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I don't know, I just don't have an excuse to draw wukong crying,
Actually that's what I was most surprised to see in this season.
Seeing wukong being more protective and showing More vulnerability.... That really is my Roman Empire ಄ā _ā ą²„