The Civic Notebook

A notebook of Canadian politics, where arguments get tested and weak points get underlined.

[shamelessnutsandwich]

Nothing will ever beat the whiplash of society saying

“STOP HAVING KIDS!!! THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE!!!” When I was 13

To now saying

“EVERYONE HAVE KIDS!!! THE BIRTH RATE IS DECLINING!!!” at 20

My people, make up your minds

[civic-notebook]

People can change their minds when they have more information.

Overpopulation is an issue because of resource scarcity. If you can't take care of everyone, then things are going to get messy. People might work together on the small scale (i.e. a neighbourhood working together to help each other), but on the larger scale (i.e. a whole country), then people will fight for and hoard resources. If violence didn't quickly restore the population to a more managable level, then famine and disease would be rampant as people stop sharing--if they give someone else their food or medicine, it's not like they can go out and get more, because there just isn't enough to go around.

An aging population is an issue because they're not even producing at replacement levels is also an issue, especially for social species like humans. Assume 80% of the population just stopped having children. Then, when they get old and need assistance, who is taking care of them? And I'm not talking about individuals feeling some sort of obligation to take care of their aging parents or in-laws--even nursing homes would be strained with more and more people needing to live in one but no one working there to take care of them.

Fun fact though, the reality is that most countries aren't facing either issue. Women aren't necessarily having fewer children, they're just having them later in life. Old measures were counting how many children women had by the time they were 30--when her first was born when she was in her early to mid 20s, then it was reasonable. But it falls apart when a lot of women are having their first kids in their early 30s instead. Now, if you look at how many kids a woman has had by the time she's 40, then the number will be about the same as what it was 50 years ago. And yeah, that's a pattern that's going to take longer to be noticed because it has to actually happen first. That's the challenge with measuring long-term data in real time instead of looking at it decades after the fact.

Also, in your comment about China's One Child Policy, was not intended to decrease the population. It was intended to slow growth. Growing by ten million people one year and one million people the next is not a population decrease, it's just slower growth. It was enacted because of the aforementioned resource scarcity concerns. At the rate the population was growing, they would be unable to feed themselves very quickly; slowing the population growth would give production and infrustructure a chance to catch up.

As an unintended consequence, because of the expectation that a couple would care for the husband's parents in their old age but not the wife's, couples would rather have a son because a daughter would mean no one would take care of them when they needed it. It led to a lot of abortions of daughters, and baby girls being abandoned (for decades in Canada, it was literally cheaper to adopt a little girl from China than to adopt a Canadian child because of the insane number of Chinese girls that weren't being kept) so the parents could try again for a son. Within a couple generations, the gender ratio was fucked. The policy was lifted to try and balance things out again, hoping that couples would aim to have a son and a daughter.

[oyasumire]

literally insane to me how you can shove military propaganda in a show for actual preschoolers and that's considered fine but god forbid you find it weird or sad or else someone will pen a whole article discrediting the horrors millions are going through because having dog soldiers in the cartoon for 3 year olds is more important

[civic-notebook]

Everyone calling this propoganda, shut the fuck up.

It entirely for the kids with parents in the military to know they're not alone.

You can't have the parent away on business or something, because it's nowhere near the same thing. When a parent is away on a business trip, the kids know they'll be home again relatively soon.

Military kids know what's going on, they're not stupid. They know their parent is away for several weeks, if not months. They know full well that their parent might not even come home at all.

There is an element of fear that just isn't there when their parents are in literally any other career.

And yes, that applies even to the kids in Bluey's target age range. I've seen it. I had a friend as a teenager whose little sister was a toddler when their father got shipped off to Afghanistan. Six years later, their father's been home for years, this little eight year old still woke up in a sobbing panic at least once a week because of nightmares where he was killed in action.

[hybbat]

My hot take is that the government should be subsidizing people who make free to use online spaces for children. We had these spaces in the 2000s in abundance like neopets, ytv, barbie, club penguin, etc. But the only people making these sites were big companies using them as advertizing spaces for their brands because that was the people able to afford hosting them, like how most summer camps are run by churches.

And I don't even necessarily object to companies being involved or the sites having something purchasable in the same way local business will sponsor kid's sports teams, but these sites also had issues of a lack of care until incidents blew up and all shut down specifically because they didn't turn a profit. It needs to be supported in a way where it isn't expected to make a profit and just cover its own costs of existing.

The kids are going to be on the internet no matter what people do, they need digital playgrounds and saftey lessons the same way they need them in real life. I don't think the government should be making the sites but I do think they should be paying the server costs for people like the wwf to host a site with some cute edutainment games and a social aspect with badges for kids to show off their favourite animals. Theyre already subsidizing genAI server farms, imagine if they at least did something good with those instead.

[civic-notebook]

I believe a better solution would be funding third spaces. Give kids places to exist that don't charge (at least a lot) money. Libraries are often pretty good, but give them a boost. Build parks. Build recreation centers that offer free memberships for students, and income-based reduced-cost memberships so the parents can go too.

Excessive screen time is not good for your physical health, mental health, or social development. Everyone being inside on their computers and phones all the time instead of outside existing has led to a breakdown of social connections in communities, which is harmful to everyone, but especially the most vulnerable.

[leotanaka]

A Canadian woman was euthanised against her will because her husband, who was also her carer had "caregiver burnout" which, under Canada's Assisted Dying Laws (MAiD) legally allowed him to have his wife killed by the state but, sure, please keep telling us, pro-assisted dying folks that assisted dying is ONLY for terminally ill people and won't be abused or used as a way to commit murder. The only reason that woman is dead is because her husband was tired and pushed for MAiD! Being tired is NOT a justification for someone ending up dead and the fact that it was deemed as an acceptable reason to kill her should bother EVERYONE.

[civic-notebook]

As someone who has watched several family members with cancer try to get approved for this and then dying anyway before they got the approval, you have no idea how high the bar actually is.

You have to exhaust literally every other option before you get approved. In cancer cases for example, you have to go through chemo before you get approved. It doesn't matter if you're 80 years old, got diagnosed at stage 4, and were given an expectation of six months to live. If you don't go through chemo, you're not getting approved.

If this story is even true (you've provided no source, so I am skeptical that you didn't just make it up), this man had to go through dozens, if not hundreds of hoops to prove that there was no hope for recovery, and that his wife was suffering. This process often takes multiple years. It is an extremely high bar to clear when you're applying for yourself, and it's even higher when you're applying on behalf of a dependant.

If there was any reasonable belief that he was making the choice for himself, the provincial government would have taken custody and had her placed in a nursing home.

[bam-monsterhospital]

whoever wrote the first bullet point on Venture's tvtropes page is not a canadian.

Accent Adaptation: The French dub gives them a distinct Quebecois accent, despite them being born in Nova Scotia.

Okay, i'm going to drop a lil Canadian education bomb on everyone because I understand where this is coming from, but it's absolutely wrong. Ahem

ALL canadians who have been taught french speak it with a quebecois accent.

we do not learn the france pronunciations. we do not learn other french pronunciations/dialects from around the globe. we are ALL quebecois-accented when we learn our french in government mandated public education. THAT is the type of french all canadians have learned, so OF COURSE Venture, in the french language setting, would speak with the CANADIAN FRENCH accent, no matter the province they're from because it'S THE CANADIAN french accent.

It's known as the Quebecois accent because

Quebec has been trying to be its own country since confederation (creation of what we today know as the country, and quebec as a province within the country), and has always (governmentally) demanded treatment that aligns with this.

despite canada having the reputation of being a bilingual (english and french) country, Quebec is THE french province, english not being its main language (unlike almost every other province in the country), and culturally and politically has always prided itself on this fact.

Most of the canadian-oriented french anyone in and outside the country will hear is from Quebec. the french province who prides itself as being separate and special from the rest of the country BECAUSE of its french.

So when you hear 'canadian french' and hear how different it is sound-wise from say france-french, it's attributed to 'The Quebecois Accent', despite that type of french being the type that is taught nation-wide.

Venture having a quebecois accent is like.. obvious. The bare minimum to distinguish them as 'ah this one's canadian' (like how in english baptiste's french lines and widowmaker's french lines are both different-sounding).

Also extra Canadian french trivia for you if you're still here: don't sleep on the province of New Brunswick: the only actual bilingual province. Most of canada is english, quebec is french, and New Brunswick is actively BOTH. The north (closer to quebec, geographically) has french communities, the south (closer to nova scotia, venture's province) has more english communities, and yeah. It's pretty neat.

ALSO, listen to the quebecois accent. IT's great!

[civic-notebook]

Actually, you don't necessarily learn it with a Quebecois accent. Funnily enough, I'm from Nova Scotia, and have had a mix that leaned least towards Quebecois overall.

My first French teacher in elementary and middle school had a France-French accent because she quite literally lived in France for 30 years. However, she learned in Canada because she didn't move overseas until she was an adult. She was in her 60s when I had her for the last few years of her career, just teaching part time to ease into retirement.

Of five different French teachers (including my Social Studies teacher in grade 9 because I moved up to the Integrated program that year which meant my Social Studies class was now also in French) across six years, that Social Studies teacher was the only one with a Quebecois accent, because he was originally from Quebec. The other three were all Acadian.

And no, an Acadian accent (which can even vary a bit depending on the community; someone from the south shore is going to sound different from someone from, say, Port Elgin over in New Brunswick--which I know because that's where my grandfather was from) is not the same as a Quebecois accent.

[bam-monsterhospital]

Well shitballs. Guess I've been talking out my ass, damn. that's what i get for giving up on french in highschool.

Thank you for the correction! (my sister also gave me a stern talking to about my mistake: she did french immersion in nova scotia and is pretty passionate about the language)

[civic-notebook]

I mean, I also gave up on French for high school (grades 10-12 here).

Here, you do core French in grades 4, 5, and 6. Then you choose if you want to continue with core, or do integrated or immersion for grades 7, 8, and 9. You can always jump down from immersion to integrated, or integrated to core, during those three years if it's too difficult for you. Jumping up like I did, especially for just that last year, isn't usually done. I'm just good at school and a special exception was made for me because all of the classes were a little harder (and there were no advanced options until high school).

I did well across the board in everything except French (Social Studies went well because the teacher I had wanted to make sure we actually understood the material, so he taught it to us in English first then did a review and the test in French), but I still managed to scrape a pass. Because I passed at the integrated level, they wouldn't let me drop back down to core for high school (which should have been allowed, I just got someone being a bitch when I did my course selections). So, because there was no French requirement for graduation, I just didn't take a French class in high school.

[bam-monsterhospital]

whoever wrote the first bullet point on Venture's tvtropes page is not a canadian.

Accent Adaptation: The French dub gives them a distinct Quebecois accent, despite them being born in Nova Scotia.

Okay, i'm going to drop a lil Canadian education bomb on everyone because I understand where this is coming from, but it's absolutely wrong. Ahem

ALL canadians who have been taught french speak it with a quebecois accent.

we do not learn the france pronunciations. we do not learn other french pronunciations/dialects from around the globe. we are ALL quebecois-accented when we learn our french in government mandated public education. THAT is the type of french all canadians have learned, so OF COURSE Venture, in the french language setting, would speak with the CANADIAN FRENCH accent, no matter the province they're from because it'S THE CANADIAN french accent.

It's known as the Quebecois accent because

Quebec has been trying to be its own country since confederation (creation of what we today know as the country, and quebec as a province within the country), and has always (governmentally) demanded treatment that aligns with this.

despite canada having the reputation of being a bilingual (english and french) country, Quebec is THE french province, english not being its main language (unlike almost every other province in the country), and culturally and politically has always prided itself on this fact.

Most of the canadian-oriented french anyone in and outside the country will hear is from Quebec. the french province who prides itself as being separate and special from the rest of the country BECAUSE of its french.

So when you hear 'canadian french' and hear how different it is sound-wise from say france-french, it's attributed to 'The Quebecois Accent', despite that type of french being the type that is taught nation-wide.

Venture having a quebecois accent is like.. obvious. The bare minimum to distinguish them as 'ah this one's canadian' (like how in english baptiste's french lines and widowmaker's french lines are both different-sounding).

Also extra Canadian french trivia for you if you're still here: don't sleep on the province of New Brunswick: the only actual bilingual province. Most of canada is english, quebec is french, and New Brunswick is actively BOTH. The north (closer to quebec, geographically) has french communities, the south (closer to nova scotia, venture's province) has more english communities, and yeah. It's pretty neat.

ALSO, listen to the quebecois accent. IT's great!

[civic-notebook]

Actually, you don't necessarily learn it with a Quebecois accent. Funnily enough, I'm from Nova Scotia, and have had a mix that leaned least towards Quebecois overall.

My first French teacher in elementary and middle school had a France-French accent because she quite literally lived in France for 30 years. However, she learned in Canada because she didn't move overseas until she was an adult. She was in her 60s when I had her for the last few years of her career, just teaching part time to ease into retirement.

Of five different French teachers (including my Social Studies teacher in grade 9 because I moved up to the Integrated program that year which meant my Social Studies class was now also in French) across six years, that Social Studies teacher was the only one with a Quebecois accent, because he was originally from Quebec. The other three were all Acadian.

And no, an Acadian accent (which can even vary a bit depending on the community; someone from the south shore is going to sound different from someone from, say, Port Elgin over in New Brunswick--which I know because that's where my grandfather was from) is not the same as a Quebecois accent.

[lilac-xoxo]

why does a robot have to have a human body?

when you design something its form-following-function, right? if im designing a machine to wash dishes, im not building a human-shaped body with hands and a thinking brain to stand at the sink and wash them one at a time. im designing a box with sprinklers in it and a drain to wash an entire sink full of dishes all at once.

the robot didnt evolve a human shape in response to external conditions. so why does it have to have a human body?!what is the function that justifies the form?

the only thing i can think of is that these people really just. want to own slaves. thats it. they want a human they can control. they want a human who will serve them and fuck them and be their friend and praise them always. who will think and do only what they want it to, without free will or bodily autonomy or the capacity to imagine anything else.

[civic-notebook]

Slavery literally has nothing to do with that.

It's about familiarity, and wanting other people to adopt the technology. And there's also a bit of an artistic influence at play as well, because people generally appreciate art and aesthetics.

People tend to prefer the familiar over the unfamiliar. If you make it look like a person, it's less threatening than some blocky I-don't-know-what.

Also, design basics are fuction first, then form. Once you're dealing with people who are past the basics, they're going to change that up a bit and make their designs look better. That's human nature.

[selfcare-garden]

"Doing your best" is overrated.

Sure, there are situations when doing one's best is necessary (for example, when surgeons are fighting to save their patient's life), but very often it is just not worth it.

Doing your best all the time is not sustainable. Sooner or later it will lead to burnout and damage your mental and physical health, which is especially true for people with existing issues like myself. I may "do my best" for a day or two, push myself to be really productive, but after that will come the overwhelm, terrible exhaustion and dark thoughts. Is it worth it? No, it's not.

Are good grades, a promotion, other people's validation etc. worth your physical and mental health? Some level of sacrifice is pretty much inevitable and tradeoffs (mental and physical health vs other goals) will happen, but if the negative impact is really big, it is probably not worth it. So, instead of "doing your best", i suggest doing what you reasonably can in your situation. Work towards your goals without pushing yourself too hard and prioritize wellbeing over productivity. It doesn't make you lazy, I promise.

[civic-notebook]

I believe this a core misunderstanding of "do your best."

It doesn't mean "do this perfectly." It literally says your best. And that can change day to to day.

Some days your best might be 100%, but sometimes your best might only be 60%, and that's fine too. If it's the best you could reasonably do at that time, then you did your best.

[saywhat-politics]

Trump terminates all U.S. trade negotiations with Canada over Reagan tariffs TV ad

President Trump claimed Canada had ran an ad featuring former President Ronald Reagan talking about tariffs to influence a pending U.S. Supr

President Donald Trump said he had terminated all U.S. trade negotiations with Canada.

Trump said he was doing so because of an allegedly “fake” advertisement that Canada was airing that features former President Ronald Reagan speaking negatively about tariffs.

Doug Ford, the premier of the Ontario province in Canada, recently said the province would spend $75 million on ads to run in the United States featuring Reagan criticizing tariffs.

[civic-notebook]

I'll be honest: I don't believe there was ever going to be an agreement.

The ads were a convenient excuse to leave the table; if it wasn't those, he would have come up with something else to stop negotiating.

I sincerely believe that he has not given up on that "51st state" thing. He is purposely trying to cripple our economy so he can frame it as some kind of "rescue" later when he tries to annex us.

This is why it’s so important to buy Canadian whenever we can (and of course in situations where we can't buy Canadian, to buy from anywhere except the US). Keep our money here, keep our industries alive, and make it harder for him to mess with us from across the border.

[cyprozombiegirl]

Automattic CEO calls Tumblr his 'biggest failure' so far | TechCrunch

At WordCamp Canada 2025, Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg called Tumblr his “biggest failure,” noting the challenge of maintaining the platform

no comment

[staffs-secret-blog]

BIGGEST FAILURE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[civic-notebook]

There are a few points in the comments that I need to touch on.

First, "too big to fail" does not mean they cannot fail. It means they cannot fail without fucking up the entire economy. So many people have their life savings banking on AI (I'm not even talking about investment accounts, if you are in the US or Canada especially, the banks are using the money in your savings account to invest for their own income (how they pay their employees and the interest you're getting on that savings account), and a good chunk of those investments are in AI) to the degree that the AI industry collapsing could easily do a lot of harm.

Also, the article straight up mentions how Tumblr is costing more to maintain than it's producing. That is definitely something concerning. For one, you complain about staff not addressing concerns, but they can't deal with everything without more resources, and resources don't get sent towards money pits.

Yes, they could potentially just sell Tumblr to someone else willing to take it on, but if it's not doing well then no one is going to want to buy it (because they don't want a money sink), so it's more likely Tumblr would just be shut down.

This isn't a case of a game with multiplayer and singleplayer where they shut the online servers down and everyone who still has the game can play the single player version. This is the site going down for everyone, forever. The site goes dark, everything on it is lost.

For me, that possibility is a little concerning, honestly. As much as I call this a hellsite, I generally enjoy it. I made my first account when I was 12, and have been on here for the last 14 years. It's the only social media site I really use (I use LinkedIn for job hunting, but that's the only exception). Without it, I'd be getting cut off from... well, everything, really. I live in a small town; there are no groups for things I'm interested in, and people who share similar core values are few and far between. I'm already pretty isolated, and losing Tumblr would make that far, far worse.

[newsfromstolenland]

50-year immigration wait stuns lawyers and families, but IRCC says it's no mistake | CBC News

Processing times for Canadian immigration applications have reached unprecedented lengths — up to 50 years under some permanent residency pr

Processing times for Canadian immigration applications have reached unprecedented lengths — up to 50 years under some permanent residency programs — stunning applicants and lawyers who say the system has become unviable.

[...]

Families who recently applied for permanent residence (PR) under Canada’s humanitarian and compassionate stream face waits of 12 to 600 months, according to the new immigration minister’s May 2025 "transition binder".

Other economic immigration programs list similar waits:

Up to 108 months (nine years) for the caregivers pathway.

Up to 228 months (19 years) for the agri-food stream.

Up to 420 months (35 years) for entrepreneurs under the startup visa stream.

Lawyers say these skyrocketing processing times published by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) are unheard of, and some fear mass cancellation of applications if the Liberal government passes its strong borders bills, which would grant the minister sweeping new powers.

Asked if the government plans to do this, a spokesperson for Minister Lena Metlege Diab told CBC: "We can’t presuppose any future policy decisions."

Full article

It's almost like the Liberal Party's approach to immigration policy has the same xenophobic roots and harmful outcomes as the Conservatives' 🤔

[civic-notebook]

"It's almost like the Liberal Party's approach to immigration policy has the same xenophobic roots and harmful outcomes as the Conservatives."

Serious question here: What is your solution?

Unfortunately, we need to cap the number of people coming in every year, because our infrustructure can not handle a huge influx at once. If there are more people applying than their are spaces available, then of course there's going to be a waitlist.

We do not have the homes for them to live in, and we can't put them up in the blink of an eye, either. Property development is a slow process, because you have to go through a process of buying land, making sure it's zoned properly, and then getting the proper permits to be able to build housing. And you can't get mad at the federal government for those things, because a lot of that is controlled at the municipal level.

Our healthcare in most provinces can't handle more. Hell, look at the family doctor waitlist in Nova Scotia; I know people who moved here from another province ten years ago, got themselves on the waitlist within a week of moving in, and are still on that waitlist. Meanwhile, there are more doctors retiring than there are coming in, and the students are going to other provinces for their residencies and setting up their own practices there afterwards. A bunch more people showing up is just going to make that worse. Given that med school takes about ten years, there is time involved in trying to fix this. And again, that is not something the federal government is really involved in, that's up to the provinces.

Jobs have been hard to come by for years thanks to companies exploiting the temporary foreign worker program, and if we get a bunch more people, the struggle for employment is going to get even worse before it gets better.

I am all for immigration when it's done at a sustainable level where investment in infrustrature and services makes sure that there is space for the people coming in before they arrive. But when what people currently have is already bursting at the seams, there just isn't space to take on more right away.

[justanothergaymess]

The solution is the dissolution of Canada, which is an illegal occupying force on Indigenous lands, and the restitution of Indigenous sovereignty robbed by the Crown of England

[civic-notebook]

“The solution is the dissolution of Canada…”

Okay, sure -- and when that happens, who’s handling housing shortages, healthcare, and immigration processing?

You can’t abolish logistics.

You can’t decolonize your way out of zoning laws, infrastructure timelines, or doctor shortages. Whoever’s in charge of this land, whether it’s a Canadian government, a coalition of First Nations, or some hypothetical new confederation, still has to build homes, fund hospitals, and process paperwork. That’s not oppression, that’s administration.

Also, the “capital makes decisions on healthcare” line makes zero sense. Canada’s healthcare is publicly funded; it’s not like Pfizer is out here deciding who gets a family doctor in Nova Scotia. Waitlists exist because there aren’t enough doctors or nurses, because provinces didn’t plan for population growth. That’s under-investment, not capitalism plotting in a boardroom somewhere.

And if Canada were to suddenly dissolve overnight, First Nations wouldn’t be magically free; they’d be vulnerable. The US, Russia, China, whoever, you think they’d hesitate to move in on a power vacuum that size? Come on. Stability matters, even if the current system is flawed.

If the goal is justice and sustainability, then we need functional governance, not fantasy politics. The people you’re trying to help don’t benefit from performative nihilism.

[newsfromstolenland]

50-year immigration wait stuns lawyers and families, but IRCC says it's no mistake | CBC News

Processing times for Canadian immigration applications have reached unprecedented lengths — up to 50 years under some permanent residency pr

Processing times for Canadian immigration applications have reached unprecedented lengths — up to 50 years under some permanent residency programs — stunning applicants and lawyers who say the system has become unviable.

[...]

Families who recently applied for permanent residence (PR) under Canada’s humanitarian and compassionate stream face waits of 12 to 600 months, according to the new immigration minister’s May 2025 "transition binder".

Other economic immigration programs list similar waits:

Up to 108 months (nine years) for the caregivers pathway.

Up to 228 months (19 years) for the agri-food stream.

Up to 420 months (35 years) for entrepreneurs under the startup visa stream.

Lawyers say these skyrocketing processing times published by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) are unheard of, and some fear mass cancellation of applications if the Liberal government passes its strong borders bills, which would grant the minister sweeping new powers.

Asked if the government plans to do this, a spokesperson for Minister Lena Metlege Diab told CBC: "We can’t presuppose any future policy decisions."

Full article

It's almost like the Liberal Party's approach to immigration policy has the same xenophobic roots and harmful outcomes as the Conservatives' 🤔

[civic-notebook]

"It's almost like the Liberal Party's approach to immigration policy has the same xenophobic roots and harmful outcomes as the Conservatives."

Serious question here: What is your solution?

Unfortunately, we need to cap the number of people coming in every year, because our infrustructure can not handle a huge influx at once. If there are more people applying than there are spaces available, then of course there's going to be a waitlist.

We do not have the homes for them to live in, and we can't put them up in the blink of an eye, either. Property development is a slow process, because you have to go through a process of buying land, making sure it's zoned properly, and then getting the proper permits to be able to build housing. And you can't get mad at the federal government for those things, because a lot of that is controlled at the municipal level.

Our healthcare in most provinces can't handle more. Hell, look at the family doctor waitlist in Nova Scotia; I know people who moved here from another province ten years ago, got themselves on the waitlist within a week of moving in, and are still on that waitlist. Meanwhile, there are more doctors retiring than there are coming in, and the students are going to other provinces for their residencies and setting up their own practices there afterwards. A bunch more people showing up is just going to make that worse. Given that med school takes about ten years, there is time involved in trying to fix this. And again, that is not something the federal government is really involved in, that's up to the provinces.

Jobs have been hard to come by for years thanks to companies exploiting the temporary foreign worker program, and if we get a bunch more people, the struggle for employment is going to get even worse before it gets better.

I am all for immigration when it's done at a sustainable level where investment in infrustrature and services makes sure that there is space for the people coming in before they arrive. But when what people currently have is already bursting at the seams, there just isn't space to take on more right away.