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#me being socially awkward.

Thought: I do NOT think that 50% of the world’s billionaires should be women. I think there shouldn’t be any billionaires at all.

cranberrybogmummy

So you are saying 0% of the world should be billionaires?

fandomsandfeminism

Yes.

caosdth

Why shouldn’t their be billionaires? That makes no sense.

fandomsandfeminism

Because the existence of billionaires is predicated on the exploitation of human labor and unsustainable environmental harm. That level of wealth hoarding is harmful to economies, as it reduces the amount of money in circulation. No one person, no family, could ever conceivably even SPEND a billion dollars anyway, and it is inherently immoral to accumulate wealth so narrowly while so much of the world lives in abject poverty.

Better then to create a wealth ceiling, a point at which all wealth over a certain point is taxed at or very near 100% to incentivize people to actually spend their money rather than hoard it, stimulating the economy and bettering the lives of far more people. Better even still to create and regulate economic systems that protect workers and the environment in a way that such extreme levels of wealth accumulation aren’t even feasible.

aflawedmind

The problem with this is that it reduces the incentive to actually do fiscally well. What’s the point of starting a business if you can’t become wealthy?

fandomsandfeminism

There is a very real difference between “reasonably wealthy” and A BILLIONAIRE

twodotsknowwhy

No one is saying you shouldn’t have a nice house, we are saying that having multiple really, really ridiculously nice houses while your employees are either homeless or at serious risk of becoming homeless is immoral.

whenandwhereienter

I’ll never understand why this concept is hard for people. I think it’s because they can’t actually fathom how much $1 Billion is.

fandomsandfeminism

Seriously.

Let’s say you have a badass job. A great job. You make $100 AN HOUR. You work 10 hours a day ($1000 A DAY), 5 days a week ($5000 a week!!!), every week ($20,000 A MONTH), thats $240,000 Every Year.

It would take you 4,167 years to make a billion dollars.

demonikolai

God dammit

postilionstruckbylightning

If you were making, for the sake of argument, $25 million a year, you could live a life of extreme luxury. Even then, it would take you forty years of spending none of that money to amass a single billion. There are multi-billionaires out there. No one needs that kind of money.

iamthecutestofborg

Currency came into existence to simplify trade. It was meant to make things easier and better for society. When a single person has more than they need, even more than they would need for an extravagant lifestyle, they’d completely unreasonable. Money isn’t meant to be hoarded for status. I honestly think billionaires are addicted to money.

friendly-neighborhood-patriarch

You…you do know most billionaires have most of their net worth in the stock of their very successful companies…the companies that provide lots of jobs and economic growth…

They arent scrooge mcducking piles of cash laying around…

mister-christmas

I’m reasonably certain none of them understand that.

shadows-ember

So if I create the cure for cancer and AIDS, not a treatment but cure, I shouldn’t be able to sell it for a billion dollars OP? What if I won’t give you my intellectual and private property for less? Are you going to use force to take it or are you going to keep letting people die? Your choice. I have years of my time, research and development, my innovation and my individual skills into it.

fandomsandfeminism

You would exploit people dying of AIDS and Cancer to make yourself rich?

Jonas Salk would be disgusted.

How would YOU refusing to allow the cure to be used unless you are paid billions of dollars be anyone’s fault but your own?

shadows-ember

I am asking if I created the cures. Who are you to tell me what I can charge and are you willing to use force if I don’t sell it for a price you like?

It’s MY property, do you hand out your property to whomever demands it of you?

fandomsandfeminism

You’re asking me why you shouldn’t be allowed to exploit dying people for medicine to make yourself rich?

Really?

“I should be allowed to get as rich as I want by holding sick people hostage with medicine” is the moral hill you want to die on?

Fucking wow.

shadows-ember

Sick people hostage? Who is saying that? I’m offering to sell it. A LOT of it. YOU’RE the one saying I should have my money taken away when I hit a cap. Why should I continue selling when I hit that cap? Why, when I hit 900 million, should I sell 1 more vial of my treatment and save another life if the government, which is offering me nothing additional for seizing 100% of my money, is going to take it? And I’m noticing you’re dodging my question. Are you willing to take my product, my cure, by force?

fandomsandfeminism

Why should you keep making life-saving medicine available when it no longer personally benefits you?

Fuck off, Dr. Evil. God damn, that’s transparently callous.

shadows-ember

Yes. Why should I continue, at my cost, a product that I produce and I invented, if the government is going to seize the benefits of my labor? Why?

fandomsandfeminism

Because people are dying of AIDS and Cancer. And you could stop that. But you won’t. You would let people die over money.

aridara

Correction: he’d let people die over money even when he already has more money than what he’ll ever need in his goddamn life (900 millions).

Like, @shadows-ember probably believes that his choices in his scenario are:

Let people have my cure for free; I starve to death because I don’t get paid.

Sell my cure for money, which will cause the death of those who can’t afford it; I survive thanks to that money.

But this is false. He already has so much money (900 millions) that he’ll never starve, no matter what he chooses. So, his choices actually boil down to:

Let people have my cure for free.

Sell my cure for money, which will cause the death of those who can’t afford it.

And he chooses number 2. Because having money he doesn’t need and will never need and probably won’t even be humanely capable of spending is, for him, more important than paying an immaterial inconvenience to save other people’s lives.

localfreshmilk

Let’s just say that he does give his cure for free. It’s naive to believe that someone else wouldn’t take the opportunity to exploit what was already a very profitable resource. Yes, it’s now been made “free” to the public but that doesn’t mean everyone has access to it. There’s nothing to stop suppliers from setting up an area that restricts demographic groups, or those that don’t fit their ideals.

fandomsandfeminism

1. That isnt the point? The point is that he said he would intentionally let people die of AIDS if he could only make $999,999,999 from helping them. Which is, un, evil? Like obviously?

2. Jonas Salk. Just. Ya know. Jonas Salk. I dunno, I just think we should remember “person makes miracle cure that could save millions, and they refuse to patent it because they felt profiting from this would be immoral” happened. Like for real. And he was a hero. And now polio is almost entirely eradicated globally.

rotreat

thesokovianaccords

here’s the thing about adulthood-

you will go for like three months with nothing happening and you’re bored as hell and then in the span of two weeks eight different things happen at once - some fantastic and some shitty and some just plain bonkers - and you’re just running around like a chicken with your head cut off and no clue what the fuck is going on

floatindigo-blog-blog

nomore404-deactivated20200101

You ever hear a song so good you feel like like you’re in love, not with a person but just in love

lordzukohs

Uncle Iroh’s wisdom in Avatar: The Last Airbender

amateur

after telling someone how I feel

snakesonhighbranches-deactivate

me ranting political philosophy at 3 in the morning

velaryons

Four moods.

bob-belcher

irishfolklore-deactivated201912

I love being in college because there are no actual adults around so everyone is just going around bullshitting their way through basic tasks. Like I can be like “I think I got better from my cold because I ate an orange yesterday” and everyone is like “Yeah makes sense” and somebody could just be like “I’m gonna put my pillow in the washing machine to clean it” and everyone’s like “Sounds like a great idea John”

mjalti

it must be so nice to be rich instead of like … having to develop a personality

sageklaire

shut up lol

mjalti

buy my silence

butt-berry

I thought my twenties would be a lot more exciting than me legitimately considering whether 4:30PM is too early to go to bed

cyberscully

as a procrastinating overachiever i feel like i don’t necessarily “half-ass” things, it’s more like a “3/4 ass”. like overall did i do pretty well? yeah. did i reach my maximum potential though? i think the fuck Not.