I know a lot of people are saying that, that was not the real Jaime and the real Jaime is book Jaime and we will probably get the books one day and Jaime and Brienne will get a decent end there. And yes if Jaime died in GoT he wil likely die in asoiaf too but obviously grrm won’t fuck it up like d and d and Jaime will either kill Cersei and then join the fight with the others and die there or he will kill Cersei and die with her but she obviously won’t be pregnant and if she is it will not be his child and it will happen in way that isn’t so insulting to both Jaime’s character delevelopment and Brienne. Or you know it possible someone else will kill Cersei in the books who knows. Or we may just get winds of winter and a dream of spring won’t get released and I don’t think Jaime will die or kill Cersei in that book but I do think Jaime and Brienne will become canon, as the show reluctantly making it canon only proves more so that George made it clear in the early days that one of the things that was gonna happen was that Jaime and Brienne were gonna catch feels and bang at some point and I don’t think George will drag it out as long so it’ll most likely happen in winds?? God I hope.
But the thing is even though book Jaime and show Jaime have always been different and book Jaime would never do that I would still argue that show Jaime would never do that either and it was out of character even for him. Show Jaime wasn’t perfect but he did show signs of having his character arc developing, I mean in the show it was kind of a basic Jaime with Cersei = bad, and Jaime with Brienne = good, whereas in the books it’s much more complicated because Jaime is a actual independent person with his own independent thoughts and agency but alas I’m going off topic. Show Jaime’s actions in 804 and 805 contradict his character on the show massively in general but the contradictions in this season alone are there, in fact they are more prominent then ever before his actions in 802 make absolutely NO sense when looking at the whole season and yes 802 was written by Cogman but d and d are the show runners so they shouldn’t of let cogman write all that stuff (i mean thank the gods they they did) if it was going to massively contradict what they were planning for his character. I mean come on Jaime saying I’m not that man anymore, him being so uninterested in Cersei that he walks away from Tyrion when he’s talking about her just to stare at Brienne and him talking to Tyrion about how he was a man that was sleeping with his sister and that his golden lion days were over and them both talking about the perils of self betterment. He sounded like a man who was genuinely getting over his toxic relationship and moving on with the support of his brother and Brienne. I genuinely think that Jaime in 802 would be just as shocked and appalled by his actions in 804 and 805 as book Jaime would be, it 👏 made 👏 no 👏 sense 👏
Book Jaime and Brienne’s love story though incomplete is a better love story then show Jaime and Brienne’s no questions about it. I mean with the way it ended on the show twilight is a better damn love story then Jaime and Brienne’s but you know what show Jaime and Brienne’s love story still could’ve been really good certainly the best in the show even if it paled in comparison to the books, if d and d hadn’t decided to ruin it in the last 2 episodes for the sake of shock value and sUbVeRtInG eXpEcTaTiOnS. Asoiaf and got at this point clearly need to viewed as different story’s and even though asoiaf is far superior GoT was what introduced many fans to this beloved world. I and many other shippers fell in love with the show characters first. And the show relationship was and is important goddammit, there are many people who haven’t read the books who ship JB and can’t believe that Jaime would do that to Brienne even people who don’t ship JB are disappointed in how Jaime has been treated in the last couple of episodes.
Let’s talk about show Brienne, d and d maybe went for the obvious with her and missed out on the complexity of her character but I still love show Brienne so so much, she is good and honourable and loyal and derserved SO much better. One of the only emotional scenes that they gave her character (that didn’t include and revolve around Jaime) was when she talked to Pod about the the ball her father held for her and how all the boys pretended to dance with her only to laugh at her “Brienne the beauty they called me a great big joke, and I knew I was the ugliest girl alive” and then we find out why she had fancied Renly, he danced with her and told her “don’t let them see you cry, they’re nasty little shits and nasty little shits don’t derserve your tears” like that scene was heart breaking at the time but then taken in context with what happened in 804 it becomes so much worse. Something I find really odd and frankly quite insulting is that the only sweet scene between Jaime and Brienne the in 804 was the drinking game (I actually did like the sex scene at the time but now with context I don’t see it as written as romantic at all just purely sexual and it only comes off as romantic because the actors know their characters so played it that way) The drinking game scene was genuinely sweet Jaime just seemed to want to make Brienne smile and be happy but in that scene they made a direct call back to the scene with brienne and Pod talking about Renly “you danced with Renly Baratheon” and then Brienne looks at Pod confirming that Pod told Jaime that. To make a direct call out to a scene like that was surprising for me at the time considering that the writers don’t really care about Brienne that much and it was a scene that most non Brienne fans would’ve forgotten (i mean it was 4 seasons ago). But considering the episode they decide to call back to this scene is the one where Brienne looses her virginity to the man she has been in love with for YEARS only for him to leave her and the future they could’ve had together after a couple of weeks to go and die with his sister who tried to have him killed twice. The episode where she is left outside in the cold crying over a man is the same episode where they reference the scene where she told Pod she cried over men and where she was a “great big joke”.
Brienne’s character arc has two themes one is to be respected as a knight and the other is to be respected as a woman/lady. Her arc as woman starts off with her not being accepted as a woman because she does not fit into the conventional feminine roles and she is not conventionally attractive (Gwendoline is stunning) but Brienne is still canonically “ugly” in the show and obviously extremely tall for a woman and guess how they end her arc as a woman, you guessed it she is not accepted as a woman because she does not fit into the traditionally feminine roles and is not conventionally attractive, being the sloppy seconds and bit on the side of her conventionally attractive love interest who goes back to his conventionally attactive sister so the bootiful golden fools who entered this world together can leave this world together blah blah blah cheesy bullshit. And don’t try to tell me that Tormund’s boarderline sexual objectification means that Brienne was accepted as a woman when that was only ever played for laughs. And not to sound classist but Tormund was a wildling (and there’s nothing wrong with that) but brienne being accepted as a woman was also about being accepted by her own class in the south and being accepted as a Lady “I’m no Lady” “yes lady Brienne” “I’m not a- thank you Podrick”. And yes it is ok to reject the status as lady as Arya does in 804 but the thing is Arya and Brienne are completely different people and unlike Arya I truly believe Brienne wanted to be a accepted as a Lady but wasn’t because of her physicality’s. Jaime was suppose to view her as a Lady and a Knight where in the end he clearly viewed her as neither. Jaime and Brienne both being highborn “a pair of tall blonde toffs” they are always very formal when together (obviously only after harenhall) there love story was supposed to be a courtly one (unconventionally so) but courtley none of the less instead Jaime fucks her and chucks her. Jaime clearly doesn’t respect her as a knight either as he leaves her behind while he goes off to “fight” if you can call dying mopingly with your sister a fight. What about being a Knight? just cos Jaime failed to see her as one doesn’t mean she isn’t one, she is honourable, brave, selfless, just, kind, the perfect Knight, she was always a Knight even before he Knighted her in front of all the those other characters giving her the validation. At the time I thought it was romantic that the man she loved knighted her but after the way he treated her it just seemed misogynistic that this man was so involved in this woman’s acceptance as a knight. He also was the one who supplied her with, her armour, her sword, her horse and even her squire and now best friend Podrick, Brienne’s storyline is even more entertwined with Jaime’s then hers is with his her whole knightly quest of saving and protecting the stark girls is obviously intertwined with him and Brienne did not get any scenes this season that didn’t involve Jaime somehow, whereas Jaime did even before he left her and as soon as Jaime does leave Brienne we don’t see her for a whole episode. Jaime is a bigger character then she is and if you are not a Lannister, Stark or Targ in this show you can expect some disregard for your character so maybe it wouldn’t of been so bad if Brienne was just a supporting role in Jaime’s story if it had turned out that she was the most important person in his life and if he had chosen her but he didn’t. Brienne of course is still a knight and still behaves like a true knight but now her Knighthood, her oath to the stark girls, Podrick, oathkeeper her whole life in fact, is tainted with Jaime and how he broke her heart, will she ever proudly proclaim her Knighthood and smile like that again, I’m not so sure.
Think how disrespectful this ending is not just to Brienne but also to Gwendoline Christie, although Christie and Brienne couldn’t be more different, she truly loved the character and what she stood for, it is the first tv acting part she had and in the past and recently she has talked about how the part has made her think about and question what it means to be a woman and she even said how it has made her confront her tallness and androgyny. I think she must of been pretty gutted about how Brienne was reduced to nothing but a love interest to a man who apparently didn’t even love her. While the writers couldn’t help but joke about how funny it was that Jaime was having sex with such an unconventional woman “say something snide” “im happy that you’re going to finally have to climb for it” “what she like down there” this scene is another one I didn’t mind at the time because Tyrion is often jokingly perverted and it is realistic that brothers would have these kind of talks, women have them too (not that d and d would ever show a scene like that because clearly it only matters what the men think about it) but considering they took all the romance out of Jaime and Brienne and just made it purely sexual this scene confirms that whenever Brienne isn’t being written as the cold unfeeling female warrior she is being sexually fetishised, see Tormund who never even called her by name “the big woman” this writing is insulting to both Brienne and Gwendoline Christie.
Before I wrap this all up, other then fucking Jaime’s character up in the most obvious way they also made him into something that no one thought Jaime was, and I mean no one I’m including Jaime x Cersei shippers in this, they made him a coward, hear me out. If Cersei was the great love of his life why didn’t he go back to her as soon as the dead and the night king had been defeated. He had clearly presumed that Cersei had no chance against two dragons and was content to leave her and their unborn child to ther fates while he fucked Brienne for?? Something to do?? D and D never really made that clear. Only when he heard from Sansa that Cersei was winning did he jump ship, because he thought he could have a life with her?? And don’t even get me started on how discusting it was to get the man who sacrificed his honour to save King’s Landing when he killed the mad king to say he didn’t care about the people of kings landing innocent or otherwise 🤮🤮🤮
To conclude the books may be great but they are still incomplete and tv will always be a more popular and more consumed by the mass audience and the lessons that can be taken from the tv show from Jaime’s side is that if you are in a toxic relationship you can’t ever break free from it nor can you ever become a better person if you have made mistakes in the past and no one can ever change for the better and from Brienne side the lesson is if you are not conventionally attractive woman you are not deserving of love and respect and the best you can expect is sexual objectification. The books and book characters deserved better yes but you know what so did the tv show and the tv characters and so did Nikolaj Coster Waldau, Gwendoline Christie and all the other actors and crew members who worked hard on this trash show and so do the fans of both the books and the tv series who have spent years invested in these characters just to have d and d shit all over them. And yes so many other characters were screwed over both throughout the entire series an in 805, I just don’t have the time to write about it all and I chose to focus on Jaime and Brienne because they are my favourite characters. But what they have done to Dany for example is terrible and misogynistic and I have never even been a Dany fan. The Dany is mad plot line is something that will most likely happen in books except that it will make much more sense and be less sexist. Dumb and dumber even got their favourite character wrong in the end by having Cersei go out sobbing and not in a screaming fit of vengeful rage which would of been way more in character for her and yes she deserved better too.
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