Whoa, dude. Look, I wasn’t trolling, but I admit, it’s clear, looking back at my post and looking over yours, that we’re both very biased. I didn’t write this intending to come off as hostile towards Steve as a character, or Steve stans, but I can see that it was my own fault for engaging at all, especially with the language I used. I really wasn’t trying to attack anyone when I posted. When I said that I might be wrong, I wasn’t being sarcastic, I meant it.
But also, I don’t remember anything in the film series including the tagging and monitoring system or any of the extremity that’s in the comics. I’m not trying to paint that as liberal, it’s not, but I said from the beginning I was focused on the movies. I could be wrong (seriously, I mean it, I’m not trying to be an asshole) so if that’s the case, it’d be cool if someone could link me to where it’s mentioned, because I really shouldn’t be posting with faulty memory of the movies. Also, I may not have a full understanding of the way that international government works, but I don’t think supers being the Security Council’s attack dogs would’ve been as clear cut a result as people think. I mean, I’m not trying to diminish the fact that the US, and other SC countries have too much power, but from what I remember, all UN-controlled task forces, organizations, and proposed/accepted documents have specifically created committees made up of representatives from multiple countries.
I also never said Steve was ambiguous to Naxis. Christ, I was joking because one of the earlier reblogs said he punched Hitler 200 times and I thought it’d be interesting to share some info that I learned in my Modern Jewish History class. I wasn’t the most tactful, as I’ve admitted already, but I wasn’t calling Steve apathetic to genocide. I just meant he, like anybody else living during the time, likely wouldn’t have had access to information about the Holocaust unless he himself had connections to the Jewish community. In the comics, I’d say it’s pretty highly implicated, but the MCU didn’t prioritize his defense of the innocent so much as his hatred of bullies and patriotism. But that’s just my interpretation and if you disagree and think I’m a dumbass, that’s fair.
So, look, I was going to continue to be civil, but considering you called me stupid a thousand times, and this argument needs to be put to rest, I’m gonna forgo that just for now.
STOP COMPARING SUPERS TO MUSLIMS AND POCS FOR FUCK’S SAKE.
You know why? Well, I mean, for one, mutants already take that mantle in the comics, whereas normal supers don’t suffer from the same systemic disenfranchisement. It’s a direct parallel that’s been acknowledged multiple times. I’m sure you’re aware of it - you seem like you’re very invested in this, in a good way. None of the supers in the MCU are mutants, not even the Maximoffs, due to the shitty character rewrite and awkward casting situation. (She’s not even Jewish anymore, ffs.) So there’s that, but I’m sure most people don’t care.
More importantly, stop implying that superheroes are equivalent to minorities because superheroes have powers that, without proper training or oversight, can lead to civilian injuries and fatalies. That’s not arguable. It fucking happened. And that doesn’t fucking apply to Muslims or POC in any way, because Muslims and POC are just normal people with different religious beliefs and/or melanin levels. Being either or both doesn’t automatically imbue you with the ability to hurt others any more than being any type of person does.
People with literal super powers are not oppressed by attempts to mitigate the damage those people can do, not unless it’s systemic the way it is with mutants in the comics. Trying to claim that super heroes are disenfranchised because they are in the numerical minority and because people want to put laws in place to ensure they don’t take advantage of their powers, is insulting to actual minorities. And is, as I said before, similar to people who claim the rich and wealthy are disenfranchised because when taxes are higher for some because they have more of money, it’s an infringement on their rights. Which. Is an actual point. I’ve seen wealthy conservative Cap fans make.
Muslims and POC are attacked, oppressed, and disenfranchised because white people need a scapegoat, because of white supremacy, because of prevailing bigotry. That does not apply to the superheroes in the movies, who are approached by 117 countries worried for their citizens and their sovreinty, which despite what people say, is a real legitimate concern, because even though yes, most governments are corrupt and the world is a shitpile, protecting African countries from American-sourced military action in which civilian casualties are sometimes treated with less gravity than their due deserves at least as much consideration as the concerns of super heroes. Ross is involved, yeah, and guess what? He’s going to get his way unless somebody fights him on it using legal means.
Anyway, it’s the same reason why comparing homosexuality to being a werewolf (like Rowling does in Harry Potter) is a bad idea. Homosexuals don’t turn into monsters who can spread their ‘condition’ with a bite. Muslims and POC don’t have unstable powers which if not properly monitored or trained could cause fatal injuries to those around them, and being a Muslim or POC does not put one in a position of power over others the way being a fully funded superhero is. If you still hate and despise me so much after everything I wrote, please at least consider this last part. I don’t intend to finish my reply because this was the only actually important thing I had to say anyway.
Anyway, I don’t hate Steve Rogers, but his portrayal in the MCU (outside the physical portrayal by Evans himself) is not the same as his character himself. I shouldn’t have condemned his character, and didn’t mean to. You come off as kind of a jerk, and maybe you thought I deserved it, but whatever. I thought I managed to be relatively polite during my first post, so I guess I’ll pull a Rogers. Sorry you got so pissed. Hope you understand if I don’t offer a burner phone.
Sorry OP, you like really did not ask for this, my bad.
