Yes yes i know love is love. But they are still killing CHILDREN. over this.
cannot put enough fucking emphasis on this bro. Protect queer kids. Spread the word my dudes
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Yes yes i know love is love. But they are still killing CHILDREN. over this.
cannot put enough fucking emphasis on this bro. Protect queer kids. Spread the word my dudes
i do find it funny the concept of all the batkids agreeing that tim is the most likely to eventually snap and go full supervillain on them all. like i bet damian and jason get together and decide that to lower the risk they should ragebait the fuck out of him at any and all opportunity to try and steer him away from overreactions. and i bet it stresses dick the fuck out.
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Jason: *trips Tim for no reason* whatcha' gonna do? kill me again?
Tim: can you give it a fucking rest- *tries to get up*
Jaosn: no *shoves him back down*
Dick, furiously whispering after Tim leaves: can you stop pissing him off you know he's a flight risk-!
Jason: that's the point. if we piss him off enough he'll get used to it and he'll stop thinking everything should be retaliated with via supervillain revenge. we're lowering the stock value of his rage.
Dick:
Dick: are you fucking kidding me-
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Damian: *walks into the batcave and silently shoots Tim with a paintball gun*
Tim: OW- YOU PIECE OF-
Damian: deep breaths Timothy. remember your mental exercises.
Tim: SHUT THE FUCK UP. I'LL-
Damian: *shoots him again*
Tim:
Tim:
Damian: *cocks gun in warning*
Tim: ...i'm going to go. do some gardening. and meditate.
Dick, after Tim leaves, face pale: why are you testing him like that he's going to kill us all.
Damian: Todd and i have a schedule to ensure premium anger management training.
Dick: THATS NOT GONNA WORK.
Damian: and yet he's gardening right now.
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*during a JL meeting the batkids had to help out with*
Tim: -so that's my plan, are there any objections?
Jason: yeah, that plan's fucking stupid. like seriously, did you even try?
Damian: literally the most pathetic attempt at displaying intelligence i've ever seen. no wonder your original parents stopped calling.
Tim: *stares at the two blankly for fifteen full seconds*
Tim: ok well anyway-
Diana, leaning in to Dick: ...what was that about?
Dick, white-knuckling the table, blood pressure through the roof: they're. trying to train him.
Diana:
Diana: they're what now.
ok this is funnier than anything i said everybody reblog this version
Dick and Babs this
Dick and Kori that
Dick and Wally whatever
HOW ABOUT NONE
This man lives a busy af life, he's had more jobs at like 27 then most people in their 90s have had. He joined the workplace at 8 years of age and has continued there since (albeit he felt rebellious and moved to the city 20 minutes away)
He has had it rough enough emotionally (the disgrace he calls family) and romantically (tarantula)
So he deserves to just take time for himself and doing stuff for him. Let dick grayson be single guys !!
Jason: *presenting a PowerPoint*
Jason: Ranking guns by their names.
Jason: Machine gun. 0/10, all guns are.
Jason: Shotgun. 0/10, all guns do.
Jason: Revolver. 10/10, fuck it sure is.
Jason Todd is canonically Catholic in some runs but to me heās Catholic in every run. No, this isnāt a preachy sort of post, itās just, growing up Catholic myself and not practising but finding something⦠familiar and comforting in it, I just think that yeah, Jason probably had that too. He probably went to a school ran by nuns and stuff, had a friendship with a Priest (not a weird one, a mentor sort of one) and while the Todds never took him to Mass I think Jason did believe in God as a kid and maybe up until his resurrection. I doubt he would be pratcising or of course, he doesnāt live exactly by doctrine but he would still have some faith in the Saints, like praying to St Anthony when he loses something.
After he dies and his resurrected, I think he loses his faith a little because he canāt bring himself to forgive. Everybody should be forgiven, your sins are absolved through confession. He canāt forgive Sheila, certainly not The Joker, his mom and dad - he has forgiven Bruce, he has but wonāt admit it - and he canāt forgive himself. He cannot bring himself to forgive himself.
Cue Jason doing his Red Hood stuff and his anti hero stuff and seemingly atheist to everybody until Dick swings by his apartment and finds a rosary and heās like āwhere did you get this?ā And Jason just shrugs and states he doesnāt believe in God but sometimes a little luck canāt hurt.
My thoughts on Jason and Bruce's dynamic (post resurrection):
Jason is rightfully angry when he comes back, and I'd argue that, considering what he's been through and his age (17 though mentally younger due to his prior catatonia), he was relatively calm. Mentally stable teenagers aren't known for their emotional regulation, and then adding trauma shakes the boat even more.
So Jason is angry; he sees that he's been 'replaced' by Tim and feels unloved, like his death didn't mean anything. We know better but he doesn't. He hunts down Tim in the infamous Titans Tower Incident⢠to essentially convince Bruce that it's too dangerous to have a child sidekick ("No more dead Robins"). He also antagonises both Tim and Bruce, but it wasn't that deep trust.
And, the biggest controversy, Jason wants Bruce to kill the Joker to prove that he meant something to Bruce. Jason is fully capable, and demonstrates this capability by tying him up in UTRH, to kill the Joker himself. Or if he didn't want to, he has enough connections to hire someone else to instead. But by Bruce breaking his one rule, that proves in a tangible way that Jason really meant something to him.
I'm going to preface this with the fact that I don't like a lot of Bruce's (newer) writing. I think that the writers don't allow him to handle any situations with Jason well.
Bruce tore Gotham and himself apart as a result of Jason's death, the grief/guilt consumed him. He was resistant to Tim becoming Robin because of what happened to Jason but eventually caved to pressure. So, after a couple years once he's beginning to become okay, for Jason to come back and say "you grieved for me wrong", not only reopens the wound but invalidates years of pain.
Bruce deals with his emotion through action -his grief (over his parents, then Jason) created Batman who fights to stop crime- so when Jason proves to be villain-adjacent, Bruce has a goal to fulfil that distracts from any raging emotions. So stopping the Red Hood/Jason is the next logical step in Bruce's mind; he is acting as Batman not a grieving father. He's great at compartmentalisation like that.
And with the Joker, murder is a line Bruce will never, can never cross. He believes that once he crosses that line he can never return. Is it really that out there to refuse to become a murderer?
But overall, I think both characters have a right to feel/act the way they do. And for an emotional character like Jason, it's quite probable that he'd provoke Bruce whom he blames for all of his post-death issues. And for a logical character who compartmentalises like Bruce, it's no surprise he responded the way he did.
Tldr: Jason had reason to be angry, and Bruce was right to oppose him
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conversations overheard through the batkid com lines pt 19 (masterpost here)
Damian: -acts like he's so tough, it's so annoying. *distant smacks and thuds*
Jason: hey don't hate on me for being more fearsome than you, it's not my fault you're a dwarf.
Dick, panting slightly: *grunt* why are you antagonising him right now, Hood?
Jason, mouth slightly full: -ecause' it 'akes 'im fite bettuh
*the shwing of a sword*
Damian: so we have to fight and he gets to get fat on tacos two streets away?
Jason: you're a street away from my territory, kiddo. this is not my responsibility.
Dick: you are an ass. *a hiss* *punching*
Damian: you're pathetic and i'm way more dangerous than you. your first kill was when you were 17, while mine was when i was three. get on my level.
Dick: wasn't Hood's first kill when he was like, thirteen or fourteen?
Jason, instantly: hey- hey hey hey- oi! a- *slight laugh* alleged kill, thank you.
Dick: *snorts* right, alleged.
Tim, deadpan: sorry, what now.
Jason: you were literally my little stalker when i was Robin, how can you not know about this?
Tim: i- i wasn't out CONSTANTLY?
Damian: you killed somebody as- how did you kill somebody as Robin?!
Jason: A L L E G E D.
Dick: we find this story way too funny, really.
Jason: it's not- *slight wheeze* it's not like the situation was funny, it was just- B...
Dick: oh my god, B,
Tim: what happened?
Damian: wait. wait. was this the incident you told me about that led to your death?
Tim: SORRY?
Jason: yeah this was like. the roots of what led to Ethiopia.
Dick: this was the main incident of what got Bruce to fire him.
Jason: he didn't fire me, he benched me.
Dick: so did you actually kill the guy?
Jason, indignant: NO I DIDN'T KILL HIM!
*a beat of silence*
Jason, audibly holding back snickers: i mean i thought about it,
Dick: *starts laughing*
Tim: what actually happened?
Jason, dismissive: oh, it was nothing. there was this asshole who kept sexually assaulting this girl and i wanted to put him away but the system was so corrupt that he got away with it, and then the girl killed herself and i got real pissed off at the injustice of it all so i ran ahead of B and found him on a balcony, and the idiot fell off the balcony right as B found us, and obviously he was like 'you killed him didn't you', and it spiralled into the whole 'you're too violent i'm benching you' thing, which is what led me to running away to Ethiopia and killing the Joker. ta-da.
Dick, sounding impressed: you know that's oddly concise.
Tim: i don't- i don't remember this, what was the case name?
Jason: uh, the case of- fuck. wait. Dick what was the guy's name?
Dick: balcony guy? ....shit, i dunno.
Jason: how could i fucking forget- i swear to god i knew it, it was fucking. uhhhhh...
Damian: how could you forget your first kill?
Jason: I DIDN'T FUCKIN' KILL HIM! it was something like- Phil. or Philip something. Philip... Philip Garbanzo. nofuckwait-
Dick: *wheeze* Philip Garbanzo???
Tim, also laughing: Philip Garbanzo. Fredrick Totino.
Jason: yeah i shoved Freddy Pizzarolls off a balcony.
Dick: *another wheeze*
Damian: Felipe Garzonas, jackasses.
Jason: THAT WAS IT. THAT was his name, fuck i forgot!
Tim: so you didn't do anything... and Bruce just like... decided you were a murderer?
Jason: yeah, he- ok so admittedly i didn't take it very seriously at the time.
Dick: yeah from what I remember- *wheeze* i don't think any of us took it very seriously.
Jason: well- look in my defence i got to watch a rapist trip and fall off a balcony, of course i found it funny. and then B showed up and he was being all grave and shit like 'did you kill him?' and i was just like. crying with laughter on the floor.
Dick, slightly teary: yeah you know- you fucking know that after that mission when i visited you guys in Gotham and he told me about the case i started laughing too and he told me he thought i was a bad influence on you?
Jason: you're joking.
Dick: yeah he was like- he was like 'maybe if you were a better role model for the boy he wouldn't be turning out like this' and i outright laughed in his face.
Jason: ROLE MODEL? YOU DIDN'T ROLE MODEL SHIT-
Dick: THAT'S WHAT I FUCKIN' SAID- WE BARELY TOLERATED EACH OTHER!
Tim: so wait. does B still think you killed pizza roll guy?
Jason: oh i stopped trying to convince him i didn't a long time ago. i'm like OJ little red, it's hysterical.
Tim: Jesus Christ.
Jason: every year on the death anniversary i send B a photo of me posing in front of his grave.
Damian: it's true, last week i, Batman, and Hood had a meeting on an abandoned balcony and when Batman perched on the edge, Hood waggled his finger and said 'ooooh, don't tempt me with nostalgia old man!' and-
Dick: *abrupt cackle*
Damian: -father got so mad he had to leave the roof to calm down for a minute.
Tim: i don't know why it would piss him off so much, like, you kill people all the time.
Jason: yeah but you never forget your first...
Tim: i thought you said you didn't do it.
Jason: mind your own business.
Damian: you couldn't even remember his name.
Jason: MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
*a few beats of silence*
Dick: *silently weeping*
Dick, breathy from laughter: Philip Garbanzo...
Jason, also laughing: FUCK- OFF
i do not need tetnus shots.
Bruce Wayne has either a crippling fear of Batman, his fear of bats is very well known after all, or really doesnāt like him because Bruce Wayne is the only person who Batman has actually refused to save in person but has sent a Robin or one of the Bats in his place instead. Gotham of course sees this, and are torn because how can they support Batman when heās actively refusing to protect the one Gothamite every Gothamite actually adore? Bruce Wayne is their Princess Diana, what is the Batās problem? But Bruce will not hesitate to criticise Batman in public, in fact it is a Gotham past time to work one of Bruceās famous zingers out of him.
Being on Gotham This Morning being interviewed about some charity run heās going to do and Bruce admits heās nervous of whiping out and the interviewer laughs and asks whether heās seen the viral video of Batman tripping and skidding across a rooftop after overextending too much? Bruce lights uo immediately, the footage is played and Bruce just pulls a face and goes, āIsnāt he like meant to be a professional?ā
On whether Bruce will invite Batman to be apart of his bachelorās auction for charity, Bruce just pulls a face like a toddler trying a lemon for the first time.
Bruce at a gala fainting when the Bat Signal is shone into the sky.
Flinching when Batgirl shows up but sighing dramatically and being like, āat least it isnāt the big bastardā
Somebody yelling āBatmanā in the street only for Bruce to either drop to the ground screaming or yelling at the skyline āyou caped bitchā
Bruce getting kidnapped for the nth time in a month, yelling for somebody to call Superman because if the Bat shows up heās going to freak.
Bruce comically screeching when heās saved by Red Hood, pointing at the big red Bat on his chest.
Red Robin and Robin showing up to save Bruce Wayne only for the billionaire to clutch the two boys to his chest and wail, āheās indoctrinating childrenā
not 'Talia being Jason's adoptive mother' or 'Talia being another adult who fucked Jason over', but a secret third thing: asshole Aunt Talia who accidentially got Jason accepted into the Al Ghul family, regrets it, and now they're dicks to each other about it.
Jason is just naturally very good at annoying people, and in his mind, Talia is the reason he has to deal with pit rage for the rest of his life. of course he's going to be a little shit. Talia isn't a mother to him (he's had enough with mothers after Sheila), but rather he sees her like some audacious older sister/aunt figure. Talia realised having Jason around was a burden the second he beat her at chess one time and has never once treated him like a child, let alone a child in her care, so they end up with the weird dynamic of being almost family but also pissing each other off akin to Jim and Dwight from the office.
the funniest part about it is that Ra's? is fine with Jason. like sure he's a fuckin' asshole but he's good at his job around the league; is powerful and a worthy heir, not to mention he's a good tutor to Damian who adores Jason with his whole soul. the only thing is he and Talia don't get along and so obviously this means Ra's has to spend his spare time dealing with his heir/chief general and his daughter pissing each other the fuck off like CHILDREN. he is so tired.
Talia: i swear, Jason, i can and will send you back to the pit!
Ra's head in hand: what now?
Talia: he tripped me on the way in!
Jason, working a bodyguard shift and absolutely did use his sword to trip her up: i absolutely did not.
Ra's: Jason.
Jason: there are no cameras in here, how can you prove anything?
Ra's:
Ra's, sighing: Talia, Jason says he's sorry. ok?
Jason and Talia, simultaneously: i do NOT-/he does NOT-
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Jason, to Damian: your mother is a whore. slept with my dad once.
Damian, 7: ...i am aware. he is my father also.
Jason: tried to sleep with me once, too.
Damian:
Damian: i did not know about tha- seriously what is wrong with the two of you-
Talia, echoing from down the hall: JASON PETER TODD-AL GHUL IF YOU DON'T STOP TELLING MY SON ABOUT MY PERSONAL HISTORY-
Jason, opening a secret passageway to escape: oki bye-bye Dami enjoy lunch!
Damian, tired and used to this: *waves goodbye*
-bonus, years later-
Bruce: my relationship with Talia was... complicated. but we still held a significant amount of care for each other, and i am grateful she granted me Damian.
Dick: she's a fucking weirdo. i hate her.
Bruce, resigned: yes i'm aware you don't like her but she's still Damian's mother so could you-
Jason, walking in: what we talking about?
Bruce: i'm trying to convince Dick not to antagonise Talia's name around her son.
Jason: oh, Talia? nah fuck her she's a bitch. you know she 'accidentially' decapitated my donkey once during a group trip and fuckin' left me in the desert to travel two weeks back to the compound. asshole. ate all my cookies while i was gone.
Bruce:
Dick:
Dick: FINALLY SOMEBODY FUCKING GETS IT-
so what if I dont have money but I am maybe pregnant and can donate a first born child? what do you think that's worth and I will donate that
when have children ever been worth anything
Tim being a little stalker-y makes me so happy. Just like.
Tim: *taking pictures of Damian on his first date*
Jason, popping up behind him: Tim, what the fuck are you doing?
Tim, without flinching: Making a scrapbook.
Jason: A⦠scrapbook??
Tim: For posterity.
Tim is currently making scrapbooks of each of his siblings growing up. They have no idea how he got everyoneās baby pictures.
Bruce: I regret to say I never had the opportunity to be quite as present as I wanted to be in Jasonās life while he was growing up. He handled it surprisingly well, even if it pains me that he had to at all. He seems to be doing quite well now. Iām glad it didnāt affect him too terribly.
Jason, ten feet away, smirking very indecently and batting his eyes at a significantly older gala attendee: Hey papi, where ya headed? Would you mind some extra company? Iāll behave myself, promise.
Bruce:
Bruce: Oh no.
The batkids being absolutely infuriating tag alongs on Batcat dates.Ā
Bruce has a dinner date? Move over, Dickās coming along, he hasn't eaten in three days. You guys can make moon eyes at each other over my dumplings thank you very much.Ā
Bruce and Selina are going to see a new movie? Tim wanted to take Steph to that one and they haven't had a chance yet, thanks so much for driving us.Ā
Theyāre doing one of those cute making couple pottery? Jason misses doing that from when he was a little artist before he died. Make room.Ā
Just. Just. Yeah. Bruce asks frustrated and Selina finds it endearing. Sheās not just accepting Bruce into her life, she has to accept his whole horde too. Sheās always wanted a big family.