i wish people would stop making everything about Abigail's character about John. Her character is already so centered around that man in canon, we don't need to extand that in every aspects of her character to fanon. Obviously John is a huge part of her character, as she is to his character, but I hate when female characters gets reduced to only their status of wife and/or mother. Like... some people really can't see women outside of their values as wives and mothers. (I was thinking about that cause I saw a post headcanoning the characters' favorite music genre, and Abigail's was "whatever pisses John off" or smth like that and?? Every other had their own favorite genre of music except her. I can't argue about canon because it is the way it is, but at least let's give her grace in fanon and allow her to be her own character idk. Maybe it's not that deep but it annoys me.)
also enough with the malewife!john propaganda, there's not doubts John loves Abigail and Jack but let's not act like he's the perfect devoted husband and father, even in rdr. And no Abigail wouldn't hit John, if anything he's the abusive one
it is hard being a fan of john marston when honestly, it entails being lumped with the ballsy kind of idiots who defend him shield and sword. i hate how a lot of you entertain this thought when you put down abigail, force her into this sort of dominant role to “level out” how bad of a man john actually is, or when you make this fantasy that jack and john had a tight knit bond.
“abigail beats john!” “she pegs him!” “she’s the man in the relationship!”
you have revolved your entire life around men, made them the center of your world to the point it rotted your media literacy. you’d do anything to excuse your lackluster fanaticism for men who are deplorable in their own ways.
a lot of you see the emasculation of your favorite male characters as a “gotcha!” for fighting misogyny, when it is all just contradictory. feminizing them, talks about pegging as something “empowering,” treating them like a “woman.” explain to me, why is being treated like a woman embarrassing? you see penetration as humiliation, because i don’t know, maybe subconsciously in your mind you never stopped seeing women as less. you never let go of the idea that sex should not include the pleasure of the woman, but it is a tool to strip and humiliate her
“abigail is annoying” “abigail doesn’t see john’s efforts”
god forbid you put yourself in the shoes of a girl impregnated at 17 in the unstable conditions of a gang of criminals, led on by this 20 something year old and abandoned. reduced to nothing but a mom, “marston’s girl,” or the girl “they all had.” not a person of her own, if life and her previous profession even ever allowed her to be one.
no, let’s blame her for craving normalcy. blame her for begging john to just settle down for once and stop putting their family in danger.
and if i delve into how a lot of you push this belief than jack and john were close, i’d be here long enough for hairs to turn white. just know you are wrong
thinking about javier after the gang fell apart...
uhhh some thoughts below⬇️
what javier did between the events of rdr2 and rdr1 has always been in my mind. I just think he was an absolute mess. he wasn't coping with the fact that he not only lost the family he tried so desperately to hold onto, he also realized that he fucked up horrendously, and there's no going back to fix it and the guilt and regret eats at him like nothing else.
he really just. stops taking care of himself, I don't think he cuts his hair short yet but he lets it grow and doesn't care for it like he used to. he doesn't sleep, he never bathes, he drinks and cries when he's alone, he just wanders between cantinas in nuevo paraiso, hoping he stays under the radar of the government.
i like to think something happens that makes him snap out of it, whatever it might be. when he does, his hair is so matted he just ends up cutting it all off with his knife
like those 12 years are something I want to elaborate on bc it's still wild to me that rdr2 javier and rdr1 javier are the same person
yep. follow me on poopmaps! this post is not sponsored by poop maps. logging is definitely a pun.
(i so would start a rdr poopmaps league if it didn't mean doxxing myself).
- jelly
Abigail: yes, but she lurks. doesn't log any poops
Arthur: not interested in getting the app but thinks it's silly
Bill: got the app but never actually started using it
Charles: yes but doesn't interact. simply uses it to track his own poops for health.
Dutch: no. wants people to believe he doesn't poop. (he does but he's lowkey chronically mildly constipated)
Hosea: yes, but never adds any comments, just ratings. uses it for a while, stops, then picks back up again.
Jack (epilogue age): lurks but comments and likes on the funny posts.
Jack (depressed adult): less lurking and more logging. still adds comments.
Javier: uses it religiously. describes his poops and rates them. gives creative names to locations.
John: uses it for a few weeks then begins to fizzle out. he would like every single poop he saw his friends log. keeps his notifications on because he thinks they're fun.
Karen: takes selfies from the toilet and attaches them to every single poop log. gives life updates with every poop. will make plans with other poopers in the comments as a substitute for texting
Kieran: has the app but doesn't open it. logged one poop when he first got it but nothing else. keeps it because he thinks the notifications are fun.
Lenny: same as john - uses it for a few weeks then fizzles out. no notifications on.
Mary Beth: has it and remembers to log a poop roughly once a week. no notifications on.
Micah: has it but never used it. no notifications on.
Molly: no, but secretly has an account from several years ago.
Pearson: thinks it's silly and keeps saying he'll download it but never does
Sadie: uses it religiously but never adds comments, ratings, or photos. sort of uses it to track her own poops for curiosity.
Sean: also uses it religiously. might attach pictures of his poop. constantly commenting on other people's poops
Strauss: does this man know how to have fun?
Susan: has an account but never joined any leagues or added friends.
Swanson: yes. he poops exactly once per day.
Tilly: would only use it on vacations. wants to add as many unique spots to her map as possible.
Trelawny: yes. uses the comment section to communicate instead of texting.
Uncle: he tried to use it but he's literally pissing out his ass every time he goes to use the bathroom it's kinda embarrassing. a
John would be turned on by someone he's low key afraid of.
Not necessarily someone who can physically hurt him (though in some cases, that may be a plus LOL), but basically someone who doesn't take his shit.
The kind of person he calls a pushover would be fun for a bit (in a mean sort of way), but he's self-aware enough to know that this is not the type of person he needs. Begins to feel some guilt about it after a while, because he knows he can be an angry prick sometimes.
He really appreciates someone who's down to earth, consistent, and fair.
If we're talking purely physical here, he loves squish and he loves curves. 100% definitely an ass man. Got big hips? Got hip dips? He's on his knees.
Any clothing that accentuates someone's natural body proportions. Yes, he likes squish, but even if someone's rail thin and wearing well-fitting, form-accentuating clothes, he can't take his eyes off.
I feel like he'd love a good neck, too.
He's definitely mouthy, so having a pretty looking neck to latch onto? Marston heaven.
Since he's a creepy creep, I feel like he'd occasionally get turned on watching his person sleep LMAO
Alternatively, if his person is suddenly done up nice and fancy - hairdo, nice clothes, makeup if they're into that.
Lowkey a voyeur...
John Marston's Turn Offs
This list is definitely shorter because he's a spicy bastard!
In general, loud, obnoxious types have the potential to make him quite uncomfortable.
Laziness. John's very practical, and values the same in others.
I fear he wouldn't do well with a pillow prince/ss. He'd get insecure.
Physically, he can get behind almost anything. Almost.
But if you have bad breath? No.
I feel like he'd be the tiniest bit sensory sensitive to smell so he'd want some distance if you're stinky.
Mildly hypocritical, but okay.
Feet. Seeing bare feet makes alarm bells go off in his head and he hates them, ESPECIALLY if they're dirty.
