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May 2024
Gilgamesh from the Fate Series
My favorite character since many years already. I tried to draw him in a realistic way all while keeping a visual that would still be fidèle to how he would likely look like. It took me a lot of time before feeling satisfied, but I would be lying if I said i feel perfect about it 😅
Anyway, still happy with the result :)
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From my main blog ❤️🔥
Gilgamesh, King of Heroes (ギルガメッシュ、英雄の王) ❤️🔥
And now I am obsessed with the Mothman jerk.
“Lie like Vortigern”
by Joranz
Oberon Vortigern
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Quick unfinished doodle, the untold visage of the vile king.
Rui painted this in her free time, yet what she wanted was simply to paint his happy ending. But at the end of it all, both the end of her tale and the painting stood unfinished.
by 鏑木康隆
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by 稻荷火@boend2000@boend2000
Actually there is a very good reason why Gilgamesh hates Shirou. And it’s not a “I’m an arrogant bastard. I don’t need a reason to hate this boy trying to claw his way to my level.”
In Fate/Extra CCC, we get to have Gilgamesh as our servant. He’s exactly the nightmare you imagine him to be. He makes fun of you for being poor. He genuinely starts to cry when he sees the state of the player character’s (named Hakuno) wallet. He will follow your commands, but if you screw up in commanding him, he will make sure you know it. He’s the highest maintenance bitch to exist. Entertain him Hakuno. Go on. Struggle. Fight for your right to live. He’ll kill you if you mess up. He’ll strip down naked to prove a point.
Yet despite Hakuno objectively being more useless than Shirou, being an AI who only just gained personhood, who was supposed to be deleted and die… Gilgamesh’s sacrifices 90% of his treasury to save them! He gives up 90% of all of humanity’s treasures!! For an AI who can only do a handful of spells granted by a mystic code!!! Who’s just figuring out this who personhood thing!!! Even Shirou at the start of his series could do more than this computer program.
Fate/Extra CCC gives us this important insight to Gilgamesh. He values people who are true to themselves. No matter how weak or useless, he adores seeing a genuine person, who does not hide who they are.
Tokiomi bent over backwards to please Gilgamesh in a way he thought that Gilgamesh would want, to be the person he thought Gilgamesh would like, even if it was not who Tokiomi truly was. So of course Gilgamesh was insufferable. He hates being bossed around and you SHOULD be respectful to him. But Tokiomi dealt with a bored Gilgamesh who sought his entertainment elsewhere, because he knew that Tokiomi wasn’t being genuine. Kotomine, on the other hand, just needed a gentle push to finally embrace who he truly was, and Gilgamesh was amused watching Kotomine. But even then, he never truly held Gilgamesh’s favor. Because Kotomine couldn’t grow. Gilgamesh sacrifices nothing of value for Kotomine.
Kotomine never got to learn about Gilgamesh’s Thrilling Splash Time, the all-weather indoor water park he had once planned out. It’s Hakuno! He whines that he wants to swim, and they suggest the school pool, and Gilgamesh is mildly offended at the suggestion, calling it a ‘seedy water tank’. And then proceeds to spend an unspecified, but not a short time, explaining just how amazing his Thrilling Splash Time is.
So how does this tie into Shirou? Well, it’s simple. Gilgamesh says as much. Shirou is a Faker. He based his entire identity around fulfilling his dead adoptive father’s dream. To be a Hero of Justice. He’s snarky and rude in his mind, but outwardly he’s that friendly classmate you have. Sure you’re not exactly best friends, but if you’re in a spot of trouble, he’s definitely someone who could help. He’s good at archery, but it’s not something he likes. People can argue that he doesn’t really have a hobby outside of cooking. Everything is about becoming a Hero of Justice.
But he does truly care about people! In the VN, he was ready to kill Shinji when he found out Shinji was the one putting all their classmates in danger by stealing their life force after all. But we’ve seen how he will put his borrowed dream over his relationships when it really matters.
Shirou’s projection ability also REALLY hammers this point down. He can copy any weapon he sees, with a few exceptions. He steals and borrows and uses them. And truthfully, he never gets permission. He never asks. He’s never asked. Just like with his dream, he takes those legendary weapons and makes them his own, though he was never asked to. He never asked for them.
Gilgamesh sees Shirou for what he is. He’s taken bits and pieces of others and stuffed it within himself with hardly an effort to make it his own. And to Gilgamesh, this it’s infuriating. He loves when humans are themselves and honest and to see this boy with a stolen dream wielding stolen legends, stolen pride (because keep in mind. A Noble Phantasm is a symbol of a hero’s pride), he cannot help but be infuriated. Who was this boy, this faker, who dares claim to be a Hero of Justice when it is not even his own dream?!
As the King of Heroes, the First Hero, he absolutely cannot let this stand! He, Gilgamesh, is allowed to use those symbols of pride as projectiles. He is the King of those owners of pride. It is within his rights. Yet.
He never truly uses another’s Noble Phantasm, does he? He doesn’t grasp their pride and use it as his own.
Shirou does.
So, this is genuinely going to be a bit disconnected, but I needed to get out a few of my thoughts on how Fate handles Gilgamesh in comparison to the Epic.
If we put the original Epic Gilgamesh at a ‘10/10′ with how ‘Gil-like’ he is, then Archer Gilgamesh is a 2/10, and Caster Gilgamesh is a 5/10.
Archer Gilgamesh’s materialism and arrogance in Fate represents literally represents two out of the twelve most commonly referenced tablets of the Epic (the first two, specifically). The majority of his characterization at best 17% of his total character arc. Caster Gilgamesh and CCC adds in a little bit from the end as well, so I’ll be more generous and say that it adds about two more tablets. So like, 33%.
Fate removes a lot of Gil’s thoughtfulness. He’s the prideful king of Uruk IN THE BEGINNING, yes, but he’s also a man who finds himself considering a lot. He worries about his legacy, his relationships both to his friend and the gods. Just as Enkidu lost his connection to animals and became more human on his journey to meet Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh loses a lot of his godliness and becomes more human after he finds companionship in Enkidu- and with that humanity comes mortality.
Gilgamesh, in the Epic, is inherently full of doubt and emotion. Doubt drives him to go adventuring towards Humbaba, doubt causes him to err on his journey towards Humbaba, doubt causes him to hesitate killing Humbaba. He’s emotional, he’s openhearted, he acts on his emotions rather than calculated logic. He’s plagued by nightmares and prophetic dreams, loses all sense of self-care and grooming when Enkidu dies to the point where when he first encounters Siduri, she thinks he’s a maddened murderer and runs from him. He was afraid of his own mortality since Humbaba, but Enkidu’s death is far too close for his comfort, especially because it was indirectly caused by his own pride and hubris. His pride lead to Enkidu’s death. That’s important.
And people act as if Caster Gilgamesh solved this problem, when he really didn’t. Caster Gilgamesh is wiser, sure, but he’s still arrogant and looks down on others. He’s still calls people mongrels, laughs at their struggles, and sees himself as someone who still ‘owns all things’. He suffers from the same aggressive materialism and arrogance as Archer Gilgamesh, just with a little bit more self-reflection thrown in, making him only a little more recognizable as ‘Gilgamesh’.
When it comes to his treasury, that becomes irrelevant once Enkidu dies. Once Enkidu dies, he’s willing to give every beautiful thing he has for the sake of his friend’s funeral, sacrifice the fattest cows and prayed to all of the gods. Even Ishtar, showing that despite his grief and their previous altercations, he’s willing to let go of his grudges for the sake of others- and prays that the gods are willing to do the same.
Which moves on to Gilgamesh’s hatred for the gods, which isn’t… I don’t like it. Because not only does it serve as erasure towards the gods that Gilgamesh cared for such as Shamash and Ninsun (his own MOTHER), but the way that Fate approaches the concept of ‘humans needing to be unbound from the gods’ is so overly gung-ho that it doesn’t entirely make sense.
Reading the Epic, you can see that perhaps Gilgamesh became more jaded towards the gods due to losing Enkidu and meeting Utnapishtim, and perhaps pushing for humans to gain further autonomy, giving providence to his own humanity in the process. But Fate makes it seem as if he waged this grand rebellion towards the gods and despises their very beings, which in the case of the Epic, just makes it seem shallow. Especially because he still possesses the arrogance and materialism that made the people cry out for the help of the gods in the first place. It presents a contradiction. It’s a fine concept, but how it’s presented in regards to Gilgamesh makes it fumble in execution.
It also strips Fate from giving Gilgamesh like… actual Noble Phantasms that would correspond with his legend. He had the divine protection of Shamash, which allowed the weather itself to bend in his favor when fighting Humbaba. Ninsun granted him support through prophetic dreams (or at least served as a source to help interpret them). There’s also the thing with Fate Gilgamesh’s fighting style being to ‘stand back and watch’, rather than ‘rush in and get his hands dirty’, but that’s less important.
I feel like if I can just recommend something, it’s that people should at least try reading a translation of the Epic in some form, because it’ll make my points a lot clearer.
to preface: I am the furthest thing from an expert on The Epic of Gilgamesh, but I do know a lot about Fate - and I do more thinking than I should about exactly this sort of thing when it happens. and it happens a lot. I do agree that a lot of Fate’s representations of mythology and history are rather cherrypicked and specific. it can get rather disingenuous in its representation of the stories of important figures, and can completely misrepresent the actual intent of myths and fables. however, it’s somewhat important to remember a few choice things about Fate’s own lore - the Throne of Heroes, and the Summoning System of Chaldea or the Grail in particular:
first, that they pluck the Heroic Spirits from various points in their lives - personality from that time period intact, and give them what is essentially an extensive journal of what they’d go on to do. none of their future feelings, memories, or knowledge is fully intact, they’re just told what they did. Archer Gil is from that early period in his life where he was the arrogant and possessive owner and ruler of all things, Caster the more tempered King of Uruk from further on. neither has the complete story of his life, only what they lived up to that point, even if they do know what would eventually come of themselves, the gods, Enkidu, and so on. we have yet to see a Gilgamesh incarnated from the end of his Epic.
second, is that the Chaldea Summoning system and Grail have a terribly sick sense of irony and humor about Heroic Spirits. it’s downright cruel how and when and why the Throne decides to inscribe certain people upon itself, and crueler still how they get manifested as Servants and in what situations (see: Diarmuid Ua Duibhne, Medea, Mordred, Heracles, Salieri). Gilgamesh being inscribed as his worst self may be something of an intentional choice by a system that seems to revel in making heroes of humanity relive their worst moments, or repeat past mistakes.
so while I think it’s entirely likely that Nasu and FGO writers just don’t know the source material all that well (it would not be the first time they excluded details, by intent or by ignorance, to better suit a character to a given role), it’s not as if it’s completely out of left field for Gilgamesh to not be fully representing the breadth of his character across his Epic. it may be an intentional nod to his flaws as a person throughout his story, as some twisted form of redemption via mockery.
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Here some sexy bastard Gil from UBW😍