I believe it takes place right after the tree flashback in chapter 278. Also, I think Kouen’s line in the Alma Toran arc about differences due to lineage could be a reference to what Hakuyuu told him.
In honour of my previous thread on Enkidu, I would like to bring to attention another older post of mine which I didn't get to share here...
The longest Gilgamesh thread I have ever created thus far...
STARTING FROM THE SILLY BITS!
small keywords for easier reading:
EoG= The Epic of Gilgamesh
Gil= me affectionately calling Gilgamesh "Gil"
Gilgamesh...is a genuinely good dad?
I find it very heartwarming that, in the few sources that we know of, that make him a father that he quite literally named his son "Ur-nungal" to most likely commemorate the goddess of prisons, Nungal (Nun-gal= "great princess"). Not to mention that most of the leading researchers and archeologists assumed Ur-nungal to be a woman simply because of the meaning of the goddess Nungal's name...FGO devs could've done something with this information (potentially give us Ur-Nungal as a servant🥹) or better yet, still use it for the future!
On the topic of Gilgamesh being a father and his relationship with king Ur-Nungal, his son, from the little information that we know of (there is not much context on their life and dynamic, so I am making use of the information that we have)...
I DID sometimes wonder why Gilgamesh would desire to commemorate the goddess by naming his son after her...and after doing some digging, I've discovered that she is widely associated with the underworld. In Sumerian mythos and in their respective culture, the underworld plays a significant role and was often commemorated with celebrations and grand festivals. In the EoG (Epic of Gilgamesh), Gilgamesh's character is associated with the underworld after he journeys on his own in the later parts of the mythos.
We know that Gilgamesh feared death above all after Enkidu's death, but right about the end of the EoG and after his search for the herb of immortalilty is when he comes to accept both the aspects of life and death. I believe that this, as a sign of personal growth, also indicates that Gil and ancient Sumerians unlike more popular cultures in their time, did not view "death" and the after life as a dark, scary place, neither a bad thing. Just what's bound to happen at the end of all mortal existence (that even Gilgamesh couldn't escape).
So, if Gilgamesh no longer viewed death as a bad thing, and if his people themselves believed that we should hold dear all things in life and in death, to name his son after a goddess of the underworld, let alone a goddess of prisons, to me, shows that Gilgamesh really loved his son. He definitely did the greatest of honors by naming Ur-nungal after the goddess Nungal, and it goes to show that he was most definitely a good dad. I doubt he'd do this if he were to not care at all for his son, let alone love him to this extent.
If his dynamic with his son isn't enough to convince you, then we'll have to discuss the other important aspects of his character in his epic, which are that he loves and cherishes his family! As well as his complex relationship with the gods:
We know that Gilgamesh is a big family man and in his mythos he holds his mother, the goddess Ninsun, amongst the highest of regards. She is his guide and his support, and Gilgamesh often makes references and directly asks for her support, even commemorating his journey with Enkidu to his mother. Not to mention that he and Enkidu are foster brothers as Ninsun adopted Enkidu as her own for protecting her son so dearly and Enkidu himself deserving of a home and a loving family.
Enkidu's and Gilgamesh's dynamic deserves a thread of its own (plan on making one soon!), but I find it really amusing that many people misinterput Gilgamesh as a dude that REALLY hated the gods. Shamash, the patron god of the sun, was his literal patron god and Gilgamesh was very clear on his admiration, support and protection for him in his passages. You could argue that in the beginning it IS seen and written that way, but then again, you can tell that Gilgamesh has important and widely different relationships with Ninsun and Shamash.
Shamash, interestingly enough, can be associated with the underworld because he was regarded as a divine judge. Meaning that Gilgamesh's connections with both the living and the underworld are closer than you'd think and are predominantly present to our faces. I believe that FGO did a wonderful job in portraying Gil's closeness to underworld deities like Ereshkigal because in his mythos and in the culture of his people, they DID revere them (not to say that they didn't worship the other gods).
Hidden symbols and commemorations on Caster Gilgamesh's attire (rambling about clothes):
In regards to the gods...I really love the tiny details highlighting his heritage. The horns around his "crown" (consisting of white cloth wrapped around his head resembling a turban with a white veil attached to said cloth, falling down his back and a silver chain necklace with a purple gem that touches his crown) in his Caster variant could either resemble the horns of a cow's (which would indicate Gilgamesh commemorating his mother Ninsun as the goddess of wild cows) or that of a bull's.
Although I do believe that both can be true, I highly doubt that Gilgamesh would want to parade around his reputation in regards to his... interesting reputation with bulls (looking at you Bull of Heaven...). It would be more than fitting that he commemorates his mother because the horns around his crown could be his own way of saying: "the reason for my kingship came from the mother goddess that bore me" or that his reason for being a wise king stems from his mother entirely.
Fate/FGO doing Gilgamesh dirty in the whole department of his canonical physical feats/intelligence:
Next point will get controversial but bear with me for a bit. I highly disagree with how Gilgamesh is perceived in the fandom in regards to his strengths. He is a child of both worlds, he fought Enkidu to a stalemate and shook his kingdom for three entire days-- from the sheer brutality of their strength-- and you mean to tell me that Gilgamesh, even outside of his feats with Enkidu, who wrestled with lions and divine bulls, has no feats in regards to his physical strength and close combat?
Let alone that he has no idea how to use weapons? I find it absurd that Gilgamesh is WIDELY underestimated in the fandom in regards to his combat prowess. In EoG, he is seen wielding axes, swords, spears, shields and his own hands-- but he is not a brute, he knows how to handle his combat. The only thing you can argue about is his combat intelligence, which in ITSELF is called out on by the elders of his council when he makes the brave choice to fight Humbaba. In EoG, the elders say like so:
"You are young, Gilgamesh, your heart carries you off. You do not know what you are talking about".
Which highlights that Gilgamesh is vigorous, bold, cocky and confident as a youth-- you could argue that the passage could also indicate the importance of the elderly amongst the youth which is understandable, but I believe it highlights Gilgamesh's character as a youngster more.
It is a shame that FGO stripped Gilgamesh of the assets that made his character so relatable and human-- but there are more things that were stripped from him that I'd like to discuss as final discussion points for this thread...
Gilgamesh is a dreamer! (In more ways than one)
Gilgamesh's most darling and beloved characteristic, to me, in his mythos is that he is WIDELY and TERRIBLY connected to dreams. Which is interesting from a literature perspective and as a humanities student myself. Dreams are a means to describe or dedicate oneself to witnessing the foretold future or the present. Dreams are warnings, they are visions-- writers will often use them to reveal a side of their characters that only the readers will get to see.
Some of their meanings are never even present and more times than not, difficult to describe or understand. Dreams can mean a variety of things, and EoG has REALLY established that Gilgamesh is a dreamer and very much connected to his soul, his humanity, both worlds and his kingdom. Gilgamesh being a dreamer is very important, because he is frightened by his visions, his dreams. He is frightened because he knows almost always, that deep down, they are warnings, messages that are directly caused from the consequences of his actions. He believes in them, which you may find weird until you consider his humanity and his spirituality. The only way that Gilgamesh was not frightened by his dreams was when Enkidu would twist the meanings of them to turn them into positive warnings and meanings, as was when he'd come and speak of them to his mother goddess, Ninsun.
Ninsun interpreted Gilgamesh's dreams for him, which is not only a wonderful mother and son moment, but also a highlighting feature that gets me to think-- Gilgamesh no matter what, is VERY and I mean VERY cautious.
Being a dreamer and in general being associated with such deep, profound spirituality is what adds more to his humanity. But even more so, the fact fate as a franchise has removed his dreamer and in general dream associations always gets me a tad bit too somber...I believe it would make him more interesting and relatable to the audience-- if it were Archer Gilgamesh it would make more sense because he technically IS young Gilgamesh. Right about when, in his mythos, he began to have them in the first place.
I fear that Gilgamesh is so widely hated and misunderstood in the fandom that he is widely made into a character that his original source material and Nasu's own artistic liberty have never portrayed to begin with. There is no problem with disliking or even hating a character, so long as you get to appreciate the role and aspects that they were written to represent. As always, as a final conclusion...
Gilgamesh (surpisingly even in Fate) is a wonderful portrayal of a king who learns, accepts and appreciates his humanity. He is more than relatable to the audience and a figure of change, which to me is fantastic when you take into consideration the dilemma's that the epic of Gilgamesh presents to its audience as you read more and more through it. My number one favourite character in FGO and amongst the many mythological figures who have drawn my attention for a reason!
As always thank you for reading this analysis! All my sources come from my very torn and loved copies of the epic of Gilgamesh <3 I would love to hear your thoughts!
Do you ever think that Gojo is oversexualised by this fandom? His character literally represents loneliness. He craves attention, adoration. But people just find him straight annoying or childish or even egotistical. Deep inside he is just a traumatized person who doesn’t know how to express his feelings and puts on a smile for the world.
cw: 1.6k wc, female reader, miscommunication my beloved, you have no idea how to confess your feelings to the one miya twin who doesn't remember what happened at suna's party
You’ve never once felt uncomfortable in a Miya household but, as you stand frozen by the doorstep, you realize that just might be about to change.
As you take a deep breath, relentless inner monologue giving its best shot at calming you down, Osamu suddenly swings the door open and you find yourself taking a wobbly step back, surprised. One garbage bag in hand, he looks equally startled.
“Hey”, he smiles after a moment, “what are ya doing?”.
You can barely look him in the eye, which only confuses him more.
“Nothing. I mean, I wanted to see you. Was hoping we could talk?”.
“Uh, sure. Come in, I’ll be right back”.
You quickly do as you’re told, take your shoes off by the door and gingerly shuffle to the couch before your brain decides you may in fact be too much of a coward to initiate the conversation at all.
The apartment seems empty, which indicates that Atsumu is either sleeping or simply not home. You try to remember how many drinks he had the previous evening, at Suna’s halloween party, but the entire night is still such a blur. Except from one specific detail that still makes heat crawl from your throat up to the roots of your hair.
God, how could you be so stupid? It’d be easy to blame it all on the stupid drinks Rintaro kept bringing you, liquid courage, a dumb wink sent your way as he casually suggested it was time you stopped being a pussy. No, it wasn’t entirely his fault, although you should’ve guessed nothing good would come out of a halloween party thrown in the middle of January.
You were in a pretty low effort costume, clown makeup, black dress. You’re all adults now, which made you think no one would actually commit to the bit as much as they did back in high school or during college, but were soon enough proved wrong as soon as you saw Aran and Rintaro respectively in a Daphne and Velma costume. They looked ridiculous and spectacular at the same time.
The twins were the only ones proving your theory, they both arrived to the party in casual clothes and not one bit of makeup on. A shame, the opportunity to see them wear mascara or eyeliner is rare but when they do men and women are affected all the same. You clearly remember once catching Rintaro himself staring at Osamu for a little too long.
“What’s up? Are ya hungry? Brought back some leftovers from the shop, we can have lunch if ‘Tsumu didn’t gobble those down”, his voice makes you jump and your friend stops by the couch, brows suddenly furrowed. “Or not. Are you okay?”.
“Yes!”, you should be relieved, honestly, he’s acting normal. Which means that maybe you didn’t ruin anything. Are you about to? Perhaps coming was a mistake-
“What did you want to talk about?”, Osamu has always been way too good at sensing other people’s emotions, he quickly forgets the lunch proposal and sits next to you instead, close enough for your legs to be pressed against each other. You feel like you may be about to combust.
You’ve known him almost all your life, high school feels like a century ago. The Miyas came as a package deal back then, one couldn’t exist without the other, but as time passed and adulthood shaped their lives in different ways, most people thought each finally got to exist as his own person. Those people were wrong: at least to you, they always held their own individuality. It’s what made them special. It’s what made you fall in love with Samu when he was still a hotheaded teenager, parts of that immature youth still flashing through his grown up demeanor, especially when he’s put in a room with his brother.
“I just wanted to tell you I really value our friendship. You know that, right?”, it feels like you might be about to cry, the way your voice is wavering. He cocks his head.
“Why are ya being so formal?”, Osamu offers a warm chuckle.
“You know that, right?”, you insist.
“I do”, his features soften, “not sure what I’d do without you, honestly”.
You only realize you’re tormenting your fingers when he covers your nervous hands with his own, warm and solid and so much bigger. Once more, it reminds you of the previous night and suddenly you’re worried you might truly cry. The twins don’t do well with tears, every single time they’ve seen you cry throughout the years, they always comically panicked as they awkwardly tried to offer some comfort. It never worked. You wish Kita was here to save the day, just like he always did back then.
“Samu, I’m sorry”, you murmur.
“For what? Now you’re worrying me”, he squeezes your hands in his and you look up from your lap to meet his perturbed gaze.
Like a slap in the face, it hits you. He doesn’t remember. Now, this is a scenario you didn’t prepare yourself to face.
Osamu gently bumps his forehead against yours and you almost throw up on the spot.
“Hey? Care to let me in that pretty little head of yours?”.
“You don’t remember?”, you don’t mean for it to come out in such an accusing pitch but it’s inevitable.
“Don’t remember what?”.
Incredulous, you stare back at him. The front door opens once more and this time you both jump. You’re too shocked to pay attention to Atsumu entering the living room, back from a run and dripping with sweat. Samu’s hands on yours can only remind you of how it felt having them briefly take your face in them as he clumsily tried to kiss you back, or maybe push you away, who can tell? You were too drunk and clearly he was too. You basically jumped his bones in Suna’s hallway, thank god no one walked by to witness the way you ran away right after. You wish you were drunk enough to forget that too.
“Hi”, Atsumu says and you’re too absorbed by the vortex of your mortifying thoughts to notice how he awkwardly clears his throat.
“Hey, ‘Tsumu”, you say back distractedly, gaze kept on Samu’s coffee table.
“Go take a shower, you’re dripping on my counter”, Osamu barks as his brother casually opens the fridge to take out a protein shake.
“What’s for lunch?”, Atsumu ignores the order and flashes him a grin instead.
“My elbow in yer ribs if ya don’t go take a shower right now”.
“Jeez, fine. I’ll leave you both to it”.
Osamu furrows his brows as he watches Atsumu disappear upstairs with his shake and an amused grin he’s unable to interpret. It dawns on him that you barely talked to each other, which is usually not what happens. You’re disgustingly close, always have been walking the line between being siblings and something else he’s never really been able to pinpoint. He remembers once asking Atsumu if he liked you and he knows his brother well enough to be sure he was being sincere when he scrunched his face and shook his head no. Not like that.
Osamu would lie if he said he never wondered whether you could like him like that. But you’ve never been as… relaxed with him. It feels like Atsumu is the brother you’re most comfortable with and all these years he’s patiently waited for the news to drop, the relationship to start. Except it never did. He still wonders if ‘Tsumu had to friendly turn you down at some point. He still wonders if you could ever like the Miya you’re clearly less relaxed with, instead.
“What did I forget?”, Osamu gently grabs your chin to make sure you look up and meet his gaze once more. Your mouth feels dry.
“We…”, no, you can’t just say that. We kissed. Incorrect. More like you jumped him in a clearly drunken state and he was too much of a gentleman to fully push you away. It’s a faint memory, his hands on your face, and you can’t recall at all if his lips moved along with yours at some point. They most likely didn’t. And now, if you tell him, you’ll ruin everything. Maybe you should just keep quiet, be a coward and bury the whole thing in a place within your chest, inaccessible to anyone but your sense of guilt.
“We what?”, for a moment, Osamu’s exceptionally gentle tone, paired with his proximity, is inebriating enough to make you want to kiss him again. Then, something odd catches your attention and you blink a few times, surprised.
“What’s this?”, you reach to slightly pinch part of his dark hair between your thumb and pointer finger, to remove what looks like a gold grain. It’s dry and barely visible on your fingertip.
He follows your gaze and lets you go, slightly pulling back with a smile.
“Ah, that. I thought I washed it all off”, Osamu casually runs a hand through his hair a few times, “it’s temporary color spray”.
“You’re gonna dye your hair again?”.
“Nah. ‘Tsumu thought it’d be hilarious if we came to the party with a costume no one would notice. I think only Shinsuke guessed it by the end of the night and even he wasn’t so sure”, he offers a handsome grin but you feel petrified.
“What costume?”.
“We went as each other! Ya couldn’t tell us apart, could ya?”.
His amused smile slowly melts away as he takes in your horrified expression, eyes growing bigger by the second.
babylonia along with strange fake and fate/extra ccc, contribute to mending gilgamesh’s character that was kinda thrown under a bus in fate/zero and fsn especially.
GETAWAY CAR
a social media au starring racer!suna and actress!reader
synopsis -> rintarou suna is the top formula one racer for scuderia ferrari, and he would be the top ranked in the world if not for the top driver for redbull racing aston martin: hajime iwaizumi. it’s no secret that suna has a silly celebrity crush on world famous actress [name] miya, and when it hits the tabloids that iwaizumi was seen out with her, it’s all interviewers will ask suna about. will this take their rivalry to a new level? or will suna befriend [name], and be the final match to the gasoline puddle of rumors?
warnings -> suggestive content (nothing explicit), alcohol mentions, swearing, etc.
rating -> PG13
tags/keywords -> smau, social media au, rintarou suna, rintarou suna smau, celebrity smau, racer suna, little bits of humor i hope, angst, racer au, celebrity crush, forced proximity, crush to friends to enemies to ??, love triangle, suna x f!reader
ongoing ! [07/09 - ]
meet the characters
profile post
table of contents / masterlist
[chapters 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, & 17 owe chapter title brainstorm credits to @itsdragonius]
1. rintarou “big fan” suna
2. boys & their expensive cars
3. a hundred boys in bars
4. is it cool that i said all that?
5. i'd give up everything to be close to you
6. loving him is like driving a new maserati down a dead end street
7. the empathetic hunger descends
8. seeing you tonight... it's a bad idea, right?
9. is she friends with your friends? is she good in bed?
10. i got this one boy, & he won't stop calling
11. clandestine meetings & longing stares
12. losing him was blue / but loving him [is] red
13. don't wanna keep secrets just to keep you
14. you crashed my party & your rental cars
15. he never thinks of me, except when i'm on tv
16. this is me swallowing my pride
17. to kiss in cars & downtown bars
18. touch me while your bros play grand theft auto
19. i feel something when i see you
20. swimming in a champagne sea
21. my heart, my hips, my body, my love
2024 seats…
ferrari: rintarou suna & kotarou bokuto
red bull racing: hajime iwaizumi & tobio kageyama
mercedes amg petronas: tooru oikawa & kiyoomi sakusa
mclaren: atsumu miya & yuuji terushima
alpine (renault): shinsuke kita & aran ojiro
aston martin: satori tendou & suguru daishou
kick sauber: shoyo hinata & tetsurou kuroo
haas: lev haiba & akira kunimi
williams: keiji akaashi & kenma kozume
visa rb (torro rosso): issei matsukawa & takahiro hanamaki
*some of these teams will be less relevant to the plot & won’t come up often
others…
*other characters are most likely either mechanics, not involved, or sponsors. (ex: osamu miya’s onigiri miya is the largest contributing sponsor for mclaren in 2024) + kei tsukishima is a mechanical engineer for scuderia ferrari
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