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This is Galadriel and Sauron's relationship in my head Btw this interview would have been 100x funnier if the actors had done it while in costume and makeup as their characters
What was going on in Sauron's mind before this
Yesterday was a happy day
The Valar watching Sauron and Galadriel sleeping together on that raft.
EDIT:
I mean...
My favorite Haladriel/Saurondriel quotes from TRoP creators and cast
"[It was] one of the initial sparks and ideas...Galadriel talks about Sauron in the books in a way that indicates that she knew him maybe really well. [...] And the idea...that this has been a thing where he's been reaching after her for a long time and there's been this sense of back and forth between them. We found that...endlessly fascinating, and we said, 'Like, there's an entire history between them.' [T]here's a relationship. And so we said, 'How could you have a relationship between the Dark Lord and Galadriel, you know, in a way that was good, really let them get to an interesting place?' [H]e has this desire to heal the world, and she has this sort of heroic desire to fix the world also, and so if you could put them in parallel to each other without exactly her knowing who he was, there was an opportunity there." "The chance meetings are preordained in Middle-earth and that idea of...what if Sauron is in a place where he's sort of repentant and lost and Galadriel is in a place where she's desperate and obsessed with a meeting?" --J.D. Payne, Patrick McKay (Radio Times)
"at the end of the day, if these two aren't connecting, none of it matters. That's not the cherry on top, that's the whole ice cream cone." --Patrick McKay
"It would be easy to mistake the lyrically swirling strings of the Galadriel ostinato with the urgently metered tremolo strings of the Sauron ostinato. The truth is that while these two character ostinatos are technically unique, I wrote them both to be easily confused for one another. I did this because we never actually see Sauron for the majority of the season, as we mostly experience the idea of him through Galadriel. For the first season, Galadriel’s defining character motivation is her relentless quest to find and crush Sauron. I wanted the score to suggest that her thoughts of Sauron are always on her mind, always influencing her decisions."
"The remainder of the episode’s Prologue features warring fragments of the Galadriel Theme and the Sauron Theme, clashing back and forth as the audience is introduced to the adult Galadriel" --Bear McCreary (Scoring Episode 101 'A Shadow of the Past')
"Our prologue concludes with Halbrand awaiting his fate on a makeshift raft. The Sauron ostinato engages in full force after he hears Galadriel call for help. The choir singers foreshadow the words Halbrand will shortly say to her when she reaches the raft, singing in Quenya, 'Sólar ambarto,' meaning 'The tides of fate.' --Bear McCreary (Scoring Episode 201 'Elven Kings Under The Sky')
"In that moment, he feels this cosmic connection to this person, and he's spent so many years alone, and meeting people that are not like him, that when he meets someone with extreme, incredible power, you get a thrill, you get a rush, and you say 'I want to be with this person.' So, she's survival" --Charlie Vickers (Inside The Ring, Episode 8)
"He saved her, and she saved him. So they are bound...and I feel that what would make an unbreakable bond is saving each other’s lives." --Morfydd Clark (Inverse)
"With Galadriel, he very much has this, as equals…they're kind of, like, bickery and poking at each other a little bit, in a way that you do with someone that you feel is really on your level." --Gennifer Hutchison (X-Ray Vision podcast)
"as they really sort of begin to pierce each other's emotional armor, they're almost staring directly into the lens, almost kind of staring directly into each other's souls." --Wayne Che Yip (Inside The Ring, Episode 5)
"what Galadriel represents for him is like a second chance, almost--a new start. […] He has this whole new life set up for him, but there's this person that he has connected with, and I think he knows full well that she is…using him[.] But there is something within him that is drawing him back to that, and something in his, I guess, destiny, he feels like is written in the stars for him to go with her." --Charlie Vickers (Inside The Ring, Episode 5)
"She so wanted to fulfill her vengeance that she made Halbrand whoever she wanted him to be. She was in a state where she would believe things easily if they aligned with what she wanted. [...] There was barely anything saying that he was the king of the Southlands. He always said he wasn't. But it suited her because she needed to go to Middle-earth and she needed the Numenorians." --Morfydd Clark (Inverse)
"Pleading for empathy...Halbrand tells her he feels liberated from Morgoth’s vile influence, and asks her to join him as queen. I supported his genuine offer with a unique version of the Sauron Theme. [...] In between each regal phrase of the Sauron Theme, a solo cello offers an emotional phrase of The Halbrand Theme. This passage is the first time the Halbrand Theme and the Sauron Theme are presented simultaneously"
"The sea turns to glass, literally reflecting for Galadriel a tempting vision of a possible future. [...] Tolkien fans will recognize much of this dialog from Galadriel’s unforgettable scene with Frodo at her Mirror...making clear that this scene with Sauron on the raft will haunt her for thousands of years. The choir supports this brooding passage with...'Temptation, give into desire, the choice of peace'" --Bear McCreary (Scoring Episode 108 'Alloyed')
"He basically proposed to her, come be with me, be my queen, and let’s rule Middle-earth together. You’re a light to my ambition, peanut butter to my jelly, let’s go." --J.D. Payne (Deadline)
"She still has that feeling of, I have to be the one to fix this. It really mirrors what Sauron’s saying…‘I’m the one who can fix the world–with you’. There's a reason why that's tempting for her" --Gennifer Hutchison (X-Ray Vision podcast)
"she’s tempted enough [by Sauon's proposition to be his queen]. She realizes that she is a type of atomic bomb, I think, there. And so there’s a care that she has to take throughout the rest of her existence, because she saw herself as good and as a hero. And now she’s seeing herself as more in the realm of Tolkien’s gray areas." --Morfydd Clark (TV Insider)
"I think that also kind of binds her to him, because...he'll forever be the person who deceived her and tricked her." --Morfydd Clark (GamesRadar)
"Sauron--I think he even really loves Galadriel. And you see that at the very end [of s1]. He would wish he could get her back." --Charlotte Brändström (X-Ray Vision podcast)
"he is never really connected to someone else on his level. Galadriel is the closest thing to that. ...there is a part of him that feels like she has the power to...fully influence his course in Middle-earth. Whereas I think he sees Adar more as someone that he can swat aside." --Charlie Vickers (IGN)
"whatever connection they had was enormous. Whether it was power, friendship, whether it was romance, it was just completely beyond what they felt before." --Morfydd Clark (Inverse)
"it's really hard to shake those that wound you. So he is there, and will always be there. [...S]he's feeling this connection to this possibility that was there when Halbrand existed as his form. [S]he felt powerful in a particular way when she was with him, and does she miss that? Possibly." --Morfydd Clark (Nerds of Color)
“It would be like if you had the most intense type of synesthesia, and then you met someone else that had the same type of it, but then you find out they’re the worst person in the world. But you can’t undo that feeling of what it was to be understood and connected in that way.” --Morfydd Clark (TV Insider)
"she was very much in love with Halbrand. I mean, there was almost like a love story. He really seduced her." --Charlotte Brändström (Entertainment Weekly)
"there's a sense of loss there. She sort of has a hole where Halbrand once was" --Sam Hazeldine (GamesRadar)
“[Galadriel] has this ring that he put all this effort into, and he wants that back...particularly hers, because he knows what they represented when he was making them.” --Charlie Vickers (TV Insider)
"we had this moment where they're…almost pinning each other, where they're choosing to not inflict pain or to inflict pain. Because I feel like Sauron could've inflicted more pain." --Morfydd Clark
"he becomes Halbrand for a while because he knew the feelings Galadriel had for him. I also think that Sauron was almost disappointed in the end because I think he would have liked to have Galadriel as his queen. [...] Galadriel obviously was in love with Halbrand. She was very attracted to him. [...] Sauron knows this because he gets into her head, so he knows what she’s thinking, what she’s feeling. So when he immediately takes Halbrand’s shape, he completely destabilizes her because that was her weakness. She had very strong feelings for the King, for Halbrand, obviously" --Charlotte Brändström (Nerdist)
"They're intrinsically connected, and they will forever be, because they are the representations of good and evil in the world...established by the show. I think he came to depend on her in season one. I liked the idea of what she brought to him, and how she made him. I think what is undebatable is that he always had the intention to rule by himself, but if she were by his side slash beneath him, he would have an element of light. [...] Since they operate on such a high level, I think the connection comes from meeting someone who understands life on the same level and understands the world. They probably do have a connection that runs deeper than just surface. There is more to it than that. That connection will endure as long as the show endures[.]" --Charlie VIckers (Schön! Magazine)
"They have a connection that’s above everyone else in the world. It’s a connection that is really strong in...an initially positive, and then becomes quite a negative way for both of them. I think each one will drive the other to the limit. [...] I think that as long as the show goes on, right up until the end, it will be Sauron and Galadriel. I think they’ll always be connected, even if they’re not next to each other, even if they’re not in the same scene together." --Charlie Vickers (Den of Geek)
"they’re connected, if not by proximity, then by their psyche. They’re higher beings so I’m sure it runs deeper than being in the same place together." --Charlie Vickers (GamesRadar)
"they are always connected throughout the ether." --Charlie Vickers (Yahoo UK)
"They're both magical, powerful beings, and I think there is something lonely to existing in that kind of sphere that they both are in. But yeah, there is some sort of cosmic connection, which I've heard Charlie mention a few times. I was like 'Nice, I like that'. Yeah, and it will go on for 1000s and 1000s of years." --Morfydd Clark (GamesRadar)
© [insp.]
desperately putting it out in the universe that I please god please need at least one scene in s3 with jealous Sauron
Celeborn,Elrond,Arondir,any other friend or anyone, maybe Mirdania’s ghost comes back to be chummy with Galadriel idc -anyone with a pleasant passing acquaintance with Galadriel who he will automatically think is a threat to his delulu “relationship” with her because it makes sense somewhere in his hellscape of a mind.I’ll settle for absolutely any of them, but I need to see this deranged guy get jealous.Just be absolutely seething and inconsolable while all his orcs judge him
Sauron:
Orcs in his employment:
"This is what I've become because of you.
You could have joined me and maybe you still will"
Charlie Vickers on Sauron and Galadriel's journey in season 2
Morfydd Clark and Charlie Vickers Interview for S2 of The Lord of the Ri...
So according to charlie, Sauron changing into Annatar was motivated by Galadriel's rejection of him and he still wanted/hoped she would join him He was basically peacocking to get her impressed 🤭
"[The team] did such an amazing job on hair, makeup, and costume but the biggest change was in [Annatar's] eyes and that was really shocking to [Galadriel] was just this empty void that suddenly was behind his eyes whereas with how Halbrand had been such warmth and that was quite an amazing thing to behold." - Morfydd
Galadriel loved the warmth in Halbrand's eyes. Sauron you dumbass how the ever loving fuck could you fumble this so bad I swear to gawd.
And in the darkness, bind them.
From a past interview in September.
If you're not sure what a through line is.
https://x.com/defneorsomethin/status/1864781119477928219
saurons never signing the divorce papers
you could have joined me and maybe you still will. ok alright that's fine thx charlie 👍 great stuff 👍 sauron listening to since you've been gone on repeat crying while planning the subjugation of all of middle earth his mascara running down his cheeks: we WILL have a spring wedding
Friendly reminder that this is the moment Charlie reveals to Morfydd his full Annatar guise. This is also Sauron seeing Galadriel after some time has passed. He knows that she has no idea what he even looks like, only that it's him and he sounds different when he called her name.
You can see the excitement and pleasure from both thoughts in Charlie's eyes.
The biggest change was in your eyes and that was really shocking to me was just this empty void that suddenly was behind his eyes whereas with Halbrand there had been such warmth. And that was quite an amazing thing to behold. - MC
I love how he blames her rejection of him as the cause of his cold dead fish eyes.