[faratiano]

Imagine FB3 opening

Tina and Jacob are about to leave London, Newt walks alongside them. They stop near the boarding gate. Jacob hugs Newt tight, promising him to keep in touch. Newt happily returns the action.

Tina stands there quietly. Isn't sure how to say goodbye. Should she hug him too? A handshake? Or perhaps a friendly shoulder pat? Little does she know, Newt is thinking the same.

Jacob sniffs, ignoring the vague layer of tears filling his eyes and notices the awkward tension between them.

Jacob: Mind if i board first, Tina?

Tina: (stammers) wha- why?

Jacob: (shrugs, with somewhat a cheeky smile) mild headache. I need to sit down soon before it gets worse. You know i'm not good with boats.

Tina: O-oh, okay. I'll be with you soon, Jacob.

Jacob places a hand on her shoulder. Giving Tina a comforting squeeze before walking to the gangplank.

  A beat.

 They blurt in unison.

Newt: I'm sorry

Tina: I'm sorry

They both lower their head, chuckling.

Tina: What for?

Newt: For not keeping my promise. I should've gone to New York and give you this many months ago, but-

Newt takes something out of his pocket. It's his book, neatly wrapped. Tina is so touched, she's almost lost at words. Tears begin to form in her eyes.

Tina:  (Holds the book close to her chest) Thank you. But your brother has explained everything to me, so i understand.

Newt: And also… for the magazine. The false news about- you know. (struggle to continue)

  Tina bit her lower lip. Gazing at Newt endearingly the same way when Newt tried to compliment her eyes, back in the French Ministry of Magic.

Tina: Well, then i need to say sorry too.

  Newt gives a questioning look.

Tina: For believing that magazine. I… i should've asked you first.

  Warmth burst in Newt's chest hearing her words. Without thinking twice, he slowly reaches her free hand. His thumb gently caress her knuckles.

Newt: If… if that happens again, false news between us. Will you promise to keep writing to me?

Tina: (blushes at his action) Only if you'll do the same.

  The ship's siren sounds. Their eyes linger for a moment. As if they still have so much more to say, but don't know how. Parting ways with someone have never felt so difficult.

Tina: (voice brittle, trying hard not to cry) Goodbye, Newt.

Newt: Goodbye,Tina.

  Tina puts the book in her coat pocket, which fortunately fits. With a sad, yet affectionate smile, she reaches Newt's fringe. Shifting them gently before stroking down his cheek. Newt holds his breath. Instinctively leans to her touch.

  Tina turns her back. Finally letting go of his hand as Newt watches her walking away. Getting further and further from his sight. Somehow, there's this part of him that keeps urging him to do something. Something he could only imagine. But he hesitates whether he should do it or not.

  In the end, he follows his instinct.

Newt: Tina!! Tina! (Bumping his way through crowds, desperately goes to Tina before she vanishes from his sight)

  Tina stops her steps. Couldn't tell if it's her imagination or he really is calling her name. His voice is getting closer and closer.

(Note: if you're listening to Newt Says Goodbye to Tina, this scene starts at 1:20)

  Right when Tina turns around, Newt cups her face and kiss her. He shuts his eyes tight, trying not to think how she would react. Tina is surprised, but then slowly closing her eyes. Joyful tears rolled down her cheeks.

  As they part, Tina's smile is the most radiant, most beautiful smile Newt has ever seen. She throws her arms around his neck to kiss him again. Newt pulls her to his embrace. Happier than he could ever been.

  And so is she.

[incorrectwizardingworld]

About Achilles Tolliver...

I love how we all have different conceptions of Achilles Tolliver. Some picture him as a sassy motherf**ker, others like an idiot blindly in love with Tina and others like a badass auror. Personally,I hope we can get to see him in the newt films so we can have the real Achilles😂

[silvertonedwords]

I kind of picture him as…a vague acquaintance who asked her out to coffee once lol. I think Queenie intentionally sort of overstated the relationship. I have a feeling we may never hear or see from him again.

[blatheringbluejay-deactivated20]

^^^^^ this.

I think he’s a coworker who asked her out, and Tina, in her anger at Newt and her own embarrassment at apparently misreading signals, agreed (because screw you, Newt Scamander!  She doesn’t need you).  I Imagine he’s probably a perfectly nice guy, but boring, reliable, safe, ya know?  Not the sort to get in trouble chasing beasts throughout the city.  Not the sort to do anything exciting reckless and unlawful.  A good, by-the-book auror who’s got both feet on the ground.  He was a rebound who made her feel wanted when it seemed the one she wanted didn’t want her, but I imagine it only took a date or two for it to fizzle out (hopefully amicably).  I doubt we’ll see him or hear about him again.

But yeah, I think Queenie was possibly exaggerating things, either to gauge Newt’s reaction to know just how much he thinks of her sister, or as a bit of a stab at their potential relationship out of bitterness about her own.  Or both, even.  She’s mad at Tina but still cares about Newt’s intentions toward her, I’m sure.

[silvertonedwords]

Yup. Plus remember if she says something about Tina seeing someone else in front of Newt she can quite literally gauge his mental reaction.

[speakbeastypodcast]

“Could we at least stop for a coffee, or like a Pain au chocolat? Half a croissant, or like, a bonbon?”

— Jacob Kowalski

[scarlettlesbian]

- me on any road trip

[casuallychecking]

The fact that Tina Goldstein might get a haircut after seeing that very magazine because she didn’t want to live with Newt’s touch on her hair just can’t leave me.

[hidetheteaspoons]

This fucking wrecked me.

[eveneechan]

These are only pictures of two sisters hugging and holding hand together. It supossedly can't hurt you:

Me:

[hearteyesmotherclucker]

OK BUT WHAT DID THESEUS SCAMANDER DO TO BE A WAR HERO

JUST TELL US, JO

[faratiano]

Tina: *comes home, finding Newt lying on the dining table seductively* uhhhh what is this?

Newt: happy birthday, Tina

Tina: and??

Newt: i'm your present

Tina:... You almost forgot, didn't you.

Newt: *awkwardly puts cherry on top of his head*

[newtsthunderbirdd-deactivated20]

Newtina baby headcanon

I got a headcanon that after Theseus finds out Newt and Tina are 'dating' he gifts Newt a pregnancy prevention potion. Because nobody wants to bring a baby into the world with war and uncertain futures. A risk of it being orphaned. A weapon to be used agaisnt them should Grindelwald find out.

Newt keeps it in his coat pocket and heads home. He heads into his basement and finds Tina cradling a baby Niffler feeding it a bottle, rocking it back at forth. She raises her head slightly. Their eyes meet. They share a soft smile. A proud smile.

In this instant Newt removes the potion from his pocket and throws it aside, smashing it. He wanders over to her as she rests the baby back into the cage and scoops her into a delicate embrace.

Because whatever might face them in the future, whatever the war may bring , there is nothing more pure nor more beautiful than bringing a baby into the world with Tina. A part of her, to share with another.

Together, they could make something truly extraordinary.

[albinokittens300]

S A M E. 

And Tina feels the same. Just...these two, I love them. 

[incorrectwizardingworld]

Happy Tina 😊 That’s it, that’s the post

[salamandereyess]

can we just take a moment to realize that in FBAWTFT newt was wearing a darkish blue coat and tina was wearing a grey coat, and then in CoG newt is wearing a greyish coat and tina is wearing a dark blue coat- which basically means that they took a piece of the other with them through the color. aka: colleen atwood is a mf genius and deserves more credit

[ashel12]

Tina: *closes a book* and that is how the Grinch stole Christmas.

Newt: If I was the Grinch, I wouldn't steal Christmas. I'd steal you.

Tina: Nah, I got you first. Remember?

[speakbeastypodcast]

Your sister. 😂

[bakercrown]

I love how this gets funnier with every movie.

[aprilshowers2236]

Crimes of Grindelwald: What I Liked

1. Salamander Eyes: Newt and Tina are perfect for each other.

2. Jacob in search of Parisian pastries: He’s a foodie through and though; I bet his bakery is doing so well.

3. Newt’s menagerie: I just want an entire film of Newt caring for his beloved creatures. Is that too much to ask?

4. Nicholas Flamel: He’s a gem of a character-I can’t wait to get to know him!

5. Newt and Jacob’s reunion: they have such a strong friendship and it’s beautiful to watch.

6. Dumbledore and Newt’s banter: Jude Law is the mischievous wizard we have been waiting for.

7. Grindelwald’s charisma: Say what you will about Depp, he’s a fantastic orator and he speaks so well that at times even I found myself drawn in.

8. Grindelwald’s escape: that body swap left me shocked. It was spectacularly confusing and a great way to start the film

9. Queenie’s breakdown: After all she went through, I felt it was totally understandable. That scene with the umbrella was breath-taking.

10. Jacob and Queenie’s 5 hypothetical children: I’m telling you now JK Rowling, I won’t settle for anything less.

[asphodelsecret]

Bathilda: My dear, it’s a lovely day, let us go introduce you to the neighbours.

Gellert: *nose buried in a book* FOr THe HUNdrEdTH tiME, aUNt, I Am BuSy.

Bathilda: *dragging him off, humming* Nonsense….  ^_^

Gellert: …..AuNT !!

*24 hours later*

Gellert: Aunt, do we have any lemons?

Bathilda: Yes dear, they’re right here.

Gellert: *picks up the bag of lemons, drops it straight into the trash* Oh dear. Such a pity. I’d better go ask the neighbours.

[aprilshowers2236]

How Old is Credence Barebone?

In the Fantastic Beasts screenplay he and his older sister Chastity are referred to as adults.

We now consider the age of majority to be eighteen years. But in the context of 1920s New York one would be considered an adult at twenty-one.

It does not seem right for Credence to be much older than this, given that he had no job and was still living at home, under the thumb of cruel Mary Lou.

But then the Crimes of Grindelwald screenplay states that Credence was an infant when the ship sank en route to America in 1901.

This would make Credence at least 25 in the first film. More than that, it would make him the same age as Tina Goldstein who was born 19 August 1901.

This is nonsense. Tina refers to Credence as a child repeatedly. She displays maternal feelings towards him, as does towards her younger sister Queenie, born 6 January 1903.

Consider that Ezra Miller would have been only 23 when filming for the first installment commenced. Even at that, he appears to be playing a younger, inexperienced and more vulnerable character.

So how old is Credence? Interestingly, a birth certificate was created for the second film. It shows that he was born 9 November 1904 and adopted 25 October 1905.

That would make him just 22 in the first film.

Given the incredible attention to detail of the prop designers, I do not believe this was a mistake.

The ship scene is one of Leta’s memories; she was a young child, who experienced emotional abuse at the hands of her unloving father. I believe she may have repressed memories to protect herself from further trauma. It’s only natural that she might have been confused.

Leta is in the same school year as Newt, born 24 February 1897. If the ship went down in late 1901 that would make her four or five years old. But if the ship sank in late 1905 that would make her eight or nine years old.

But what does this add to the story?

They say that seven is the age of reason. Who could blame a girl, scarcely more than a toddler, for such a tragic accident? But if Leta was older when her brother drown, it has moral implications.

If she was older, it makes it more likely that Irma would have trusted her with her baby brother. It also makes easier for her to have lifted him and carried him quickly into the other cabin in the middle of a storm.

In her books, JK Rowling specializes in unreliable narration. I think this might be an attempt to throw off her audience in the hopes of a grand reveal later on.

[thunderpuffporcupine]

This is definitely an interesting theory re Leta suppressing memories, but I have to disagree with the reasoning behind the claim that Credence being 25 is “nonsense”.

1) I agree 100% that Tina has maternal feelings towards Credence, it’s obvious from the way she talks to and about him. But this doesn’t automatically make him younger. Firstly, I find it ironic that you’ve said that she “refers to him as a child” when one of her lines is literally “He’s not a child”; she refers to him as a “boy” sometimes, possibly, but that’s not the same- people refer to adults as “boys” or “girls” all the time. Secondly, back to those maternal feelings- in a different context, yes it would be weird if someone had parental feelings towards a person the same age as them. But only because in this hypothetical “normal” scenario, the mental ages as well as the physical ages are the same.

2) Which brings us nicely on to my second point: yes, usually it would be odd to have a 23 year old playing a 25 year old but hell, Credence doesn’t act like a 23 or 22 year old- hell, he barely acts like an 18 year old sometimes. His language, and by implication his thought processes, are often the kind we’d expect from a much younger kid- the most obvious examples being when he tells Grindelgraves “I thought you were my friend” and when he asks Irma “Why didn’t [his parents] want me?” His mental age, while not drastically lower, hasn’t quite caught up with his physical.

The reason for this is pretty simple: that fucking bitch Mary Lou and the abuse she inflicted on him. As well as probably having very little formal education, his upbringing clearly didn’t include basic shit like self-confidence and how to be independent (or other transferable work skills). He was never allowed to expand his mind, or grow and develop as a person. And he was never going to do that anyway because she was so cold and emotionally neglectful with him, even without the beatings- there’s scientific evidence that even as babies, children who are rarely held or touched, who don’t experience love and affection (kids in orphanages, for example)- their brains literally don’t develop properly. (Years of neglect and likely malnutrition would affect his physical appearance as well- in A Little Princess, Becky is 14 at the beginning but is “so stunted in growth she looked about 12”.) Rowling almost certainly knows all this- on Lumos’ website they talk about some of the long-term effects institutionalisation has on kids- for example, the fact that they are often so traumatised they end up stuck there for the rest of their lives.

Which brings us around to why Credence, apparently at 25-ish, is still “under the thumb” of Mary Lou. Remember, he’s been with her since he was a baby. Life with her sucked, but until the Circus Arcanus it was literally all he knew. And during that time, he became brainwashed into believing everything she did about him- that he was inherently bad, worthless etc., that she was doing him a favour by “correcting” him and so on. (Some of my HCs breaking in here, but it’s not a huge stretch.) By 1926 he’s so heavily brainwashed that she doesn’t need to grab something of her own to beat him, or even tell him to take off his own belt- he just removes it himself the second he knows she wants to punish him. When you’re raised with that level of emotional abuse the effects are going to last well beyond the age when other kids would be becoming independent, so even if Credence is in his mid-20s it’s completely understandable that he wouldn’t have mentally broken free enough to physically leave her.

My point is, I like the idea that Leta was confused about the date because of suppressed memories- another understandable effect of abuse-related trauma. It’s just the reasoning behind Credence being younger than the dates suggest, doesn’t add up for me.

[faratiano]

For FB3, i just want Tina to connect with everybody. Like actually bonding with Jacob, Theseus, Nagini, Yusuf, etc. Not just being there because she's with Newt.

[hidetheteaspoons]

Same.

[bakercrown]

I’m gonna jump in here and say that Tina went to Paris for Credence, not Newt. (Sorry I just get annoyed when people act like Tina just exists for Newt) Do you mean more than you want her interacting with others than Newt, because that is valid. (And I agree!)

[faratiano]

Lemme get this straight here i do not think Tina was there for Newt in COG (if anything, it was actually the other way around. Newt wouldn't go to Paris if he hadn't find out Tina was there.) like @bakercrown had pointed, i meant i want Tina to interact with others than Newt in FB3 (And definitely give the main four more screentime they deserve!)

[bakercrown]

Okay thanks, just wanted the clarification because I wasn’t sure. 🙏 and yes I agree more main four! Dunno why they were sidelined when literally everyone I’ve talked to says Newt, Tina, Queenie, and Jacob are the characters they want to spend time with. 🤷‍♀️

In that case, I agree that I want Tina to interact with other characters as well. I’m desperate to see more of what her dynamic with Jacob looks like. Croissant scene made me very curious. 👀

[sophiethetheatregirl]

Did I do it right?