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OKAY FUCK BEDTIME JESUS CHRIST
Anyways in my opinion, the most authentic Dan and Phil have been as a collaborative duo was the return of the gaming channel, specifically up until the Four Seasons video. I thought it was super cool to see the penthouse suite, but the whole game element of making one person suffer while the other had a luxurious night felt weirdly antithetical to their usual brand, à la "I've spent most of 2016 with another person". I don't like the way people claim that Dan and Phil are codependent because I do genuinely think they are actual best friends who enjoy spending time together, and I think over the last 6 months the idea of their friendship has completely been lost in favour of their relationship.
And honestly, I'm a romantic, I was as happy as anyone that they came out as a couple, but I don't care for the way that people act like they're making it their entire brand when they specifically said they weren't going to do that and that nothing was going to change, and when I actually watch things like the podcast they really haven't changed much but I think the aspect of their creativity has been lost in exchange for clicks about their relationship, and I used to really enjoy the fandom space when people had to actually discuss the content rather than solely about their relationship.
I also just want to say in this long ass post that I think it's crazy that people who have been in a fandom space for a handful of months think that people who have been fans of a creator for over a decade should just shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down and that our opinions don't matter because you're enjoying content that I don't think is their best, and it's frankly insane that y'all feel the need to defend literal strangers from valid criticism that they're not even going to see. I've been worried that there's a lack of community growing in this fandom space when typically, community has been the main focus, and y'all are NOT helping disprove that.
aw I thought that was ask was going to be in good faith but you can go FUUUCK yourself and I'm going to make the post I wanted to make anyway before I had to read the rest of your nasty lil message
actually the craziest thing I just saw someone say is that "maybe older Dan and Phil fans need to accept that Dan and Phil isn't for them anymore" like who the fuck do you think you are actually
still haven’t forgiven him for straight baiting me
oh go AWAY
I’ve seen a decent amount of complaints from people about new phannies (which, fair ) and something I’ve seen you and a lot of other people say is that they should spend some time just browsing before actually interacting. I lurked in the dnp tag for months before I made a tumblr account, but a lot of times I still feel so clueless. I don’t want to contribute to the annoyance, so I was wondering if you have any other tips or anything you’d like to see from new fans?
thanks in advance!
This ask is really sweet, and I really appreciate how you've approached this! I will note, I have had like 3 specific blogs on my shitlist over the past couple weeks who all specifically admitted to not having any interest in Dan and Phil until they came out as a couple, and I've had so many wonderful conversations and interactions with fans who also became fans around the same time, so it definitely does depend on how you approach it!
For me, one of the biggest things, exactly like you said, is feeling the vibe of a community. Up until a couple weeks ago (where, granted, I spent a few months off of tumblr), I was under the impression that the Dan and Phil fan space was a place where people could come together to discuss the sort of content and conversations Dan and Phil have and have a safe space to hear other people's opinions on the subject! Lately, sadly, I've been finding that every post is strictly about how romantic Dan and Phil are and how in love they are and speculation about their kinks, which to me crosses such a line that I don't even know where to begin.
Dan and Phil have been very clear what they consider "boundaries" in regards to the fan, and maybe it's because they don't spend much time on their public accounts on social media so they don't see the weird shit, and frankly they know tumblr has weird shit so like I GET it but I personally thought there was an understanding that the weird shit stays specifically on personal blogs and in fanfics rather than in the main community hubs that are public for everyone to see.
I think the fact that you're even considering how other people feel means you're not contributing to the nuisance in the slightest, but the biggest Tumblr rules of thumb in my opinion are a) remember that this is a community where other people are free to have opinions and conversations about their opinions, and if that's not something you want to participate in that's totally fine, but it's also each individual user's responsibility to manage their post accessibility and not get upset at people if they disagree or have a critique worth considering, which leads into my next point, b) if someone tells you that you're making them uncomfortable, it's your responsibility to reflect on your actions as to why that happened. It might not always be your "fault" and your best judgement is always beneficial in the case, but there are some people who have amassed a massive handful of people who are incredibly uncomfortable by the sort of the content they post to every main fandom tag and force people to interact with if we want to block them. Leading into my last point, c) please tag trigger warnings and fandom content appropriately!! For me, my blog is a bit more personal so I do sometimes forget to tag trigger warnings, but I also make a point of not tagging any popular tags in the posts that may require a trigger warning. For things like detailed and graphic sex speculations, self harm, even drug use, giving people the opportunity to filter triggering content will always be the most considerate approach.
I hope this essay wasn't too long for you! Thank you so much for your ask, I do try and give people grace regarding the things they post but it also simultaneously makes me sad when people come into an established space and make it weird 😅
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it'll never fail to make me laugh when people try to assume I mean something different than what I say like. every word I use is very intentional. you're just stupid
Now that phan is real, my favourite dnp conspiracy theory is that they kiss Bad and Weird
and you know what? I miss solo Dan and solo Phil adventures. I'm tired of the whole "Dan and Phil are one person" thing, it's so dehumanizing to me
actually I was just thinking about this again and my mind is still blown about the way people have completely neutered the phrase "disability" and think that everybody has an equal say in conversations about disability equity. It's fine to admit when one disability has a large risk than another and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
wad dan: I love sex. I'm motivated by sex. I need sex all the time.
hl dan: maybe we kiss? hehe idk 🫣
I know I just made a post about it but it's actually so funny that people don't understand why dnp use the word situationship. Y'all can't act normal when they LOOK at each other, this distance they're creating is so Y'ALL stop talking about what they do with their penises and it's NOT WORKING
y'all don't get to request dnp stop using the word situation when y'all can't even go 20 seconds without crying about how in love dnp are, they're doing this BECAUSE OF YOU
a comment??? it was the title of the episode???