entp/intp

entp’s and intp’s

[entpvsintp]

That’s a condition

ENTP: Hey, do you remember when you were a kid, correlating the alphabet with colors and genders.

INTP: Uhm?

ENTP: ...Like T is an old grey man-

INTP: No I’ve never done that. Do you still do that?

ENTP: Well ye, sometimes.

INTP: You know that’s a neurological condition right?

ENTP: surprised pikachu face*

INTP: It’s called synesthesia.

ENTP: WhAT?????

INTP: proceeds to explain the condition like a wikipedia page*

[entpvsintp]

Tea

ENTP: btw do you have some tea for me I’m bored? Like some random tea from your peers??

INTP: Yes, I have tea.

...

ENTP: ...Is it actual tea intp?

INTP: shares picture of actual tea*

INTP: It’s from my roomate.

[entpvsintp]

rules

ENTP: they worked so hard and for what? We can still break the rules.

ENTP: Fuck the police.

INTP: Yes, everyone does.

[entpvsintp]

NT problem

ENTP: Do you ever just talk to people and think “hmmm, which intellectual level, of my intellect should I show so that it’s not too much or too little for this conversation with these people”?

INTP: Pfff, only everyday.

ENTP: Ikr. :/

[entpvsintp]

The world

Entp: If that happened the world would barely function.

Intp: The world already barely functions...

Entp: Lol, same tho.

Entp: Do you wanna chit chat about that?

Intp: Chit chat me up bro.

[themindofanintp]

My existence in four text convos

[mr-mbti]

The MBTI types apologize

[intpale]

*at dinner*

INTP: *trying to stab the food with the fork* *fails*

INTP: This fork is too thick. I can’t even stab people with it.

ENTP: You could use your knife. It does more damage than the fork.

INTP: I like how casual this conversation going.

[intpale]

I can’t stand messy desktop/home screen #2

INTP: Can I borrow your laptop? I left mine at home.

ENTP: Yeah, sure.

*15 minutes later*

INTP: You sure have so many files scattered on your desktop.

ENTP: Yeah, couldn’t bother to move them. They are unfinished project anyway. If I move them, I’ll probably forget them. 

INTP: Right. I can see that.

ENTP: Are you traumatized enough?

INTP: Yes, thank you.

ENTP: My pleasure.

[entpvsintp]

Im not a perfectionist, but...

INTP: trying to choose between two picutes for a project page*

ENTP: come on dude! It doesn’t have to be perfect, it’s a draft.

INTP: First of all, bold of you to assume I’m ever coming back to this. Second, why make it at all if we’re just going to change it later? Repeating the same action over and over is literally a punishment in hell, and having to hang out with stupid people is punishment enough for me. And third, with every choice I make I’m thinking of all ten alternate possibilities of reactions our choice could entail on the teacher.

So, yes it does have to be perfect.

ENTP: ...IT’S THE TITLE PAGE

[murderandmbti]

xNTPs and risks

INTP: Wait a minute! You don’t go towards the weird scary sound!

ENTP: Yeah we do. We always do.

INTP: I hate that about us.

[murderandmbti]

xNTPs and risks

INTP: Wait a minute! You don’t go towards the weird scary sound!

ENTP: Yeah we do. We always do.

INTP: I hate that about us.

[entpvsintp]

Road trip

INTP: Where are we going?

ENTP: Wherever the car takes us!

INTP: I don’t like the beach.

ENTP: Okay, I will let the car know.

[entpvsintp]

Camera shy

ENTP: Taking a group pic*

INTP: stands aside*

ENTP: C’mon INTP, get in here!

INTP: No, thank you.

ENTP: Oh come on, why do you have to be so camera-shy?

INTP: I’m not cAmera-sHy, I’m camera nO-tHANk You.

[entpvsintp]

The introverted thinker

INTP: I’m so fucking lonely, nobody loves me!

*talks with someone for a literal minute*

INTP: Wow I’m so fucking tired I think I’ll go home and not speak with anyone for weeks.

INTP: .... (repeat cycle)

[entpvsintp]

Intp and big groups of people

“A group of people talking and joking with ENTP about normal everyday stuff”

INTP: .....

ENTP: *suddendly stops talking* ...INTP’s judging us so much right now.

INTP: *shakes head* Well I mean, a little... *nervous laughing*

INTP: *thinking* I am not judging any of you at all as to do that I would need a biased opinion on something, which I find closeminded to have, however I am perplexed by your ability to talk so much and yet say nothing at all, and I’m trying to figure out how the fuck you do that so I might join a conversation of normal people, but the dilemma of saying something normal, yet interestig that does not attract the group’s attention to me which would cause me to be drained of energy in a matter of seconds is frying my hardware and I need to go home omg, how do I not look like I’m judging you people??? Denying the fact that I’m judging you would make you think I’m a liar anyway so there isn’t a lot I can do to change your opinion, besides making a 180 degree change of my personality which I don’t wanna do in the first place...

INTP: So entp can we leave now??

[confusedinfj]

The real differences between entps and intps

I'm statistically surrounded by HEAPS of *ntps. My dad's an intp, my great grandpa was an entp, my sister is an entp, my husband's an entp, my brother in law is an intp, and I just generally attract those types as friends.

The differences I'm going to list here are real, practical, solid differences, not the generic, vague type the internet can give. Hopefully it helps someone, cos I wasted a lot of time figuring it out for myself 😂

First up

Entps and intps are around the 4% mark so pls rule out any mistypings - no type is stupid or unspecial, and it really helps to know your real type!

I know what I'm saying here is right, and I've spent over 2 years ruling out mistypings and annoying everyone, especially my intp father who got really offended when I thought he was an isfj for a day 😂

Type Resemblances

Entps and intps seem almost exactly the same when well developed. Pretty much EXACTLY the same.

A poorly developed entp looks like a really immature esfj - note they no longer seem intuitive. It's a sign they're looping ridiculously between Ne-Fe to the point where they can't seem to even access Ne.

A poorly developed intp looks like a really immature infj - note that they're still intuitive.

A depressed entp looks like a really mean istp. Note they no longer seem intuitive. They're looping between Ti-Si.

A depressed intp will have alternating bad istp, good infj moments. Entps don't have good infj moments unless they're in love basically.

Entps can seem like any type they want when developing tertiary Fe. That is, a terrible version of any type. Intps don't have this skill, nor do they care to. For this reason, entps can mistype as anything they feel like.

Intps almost always mistype as infjs, intjs when older, isfjs, or istjs. They never mistype as an Extravert, because they're so naturally people avoidant.

Key Similarities

Not actually that Extraverted

Both good at strategy

Both good at money

Both good at not telling you things

Both bad at actually lying

Both more emotional than they realise

Both change depending on who they hang out with. *ntps who don't have a high Fe friend they respect will end up more callous than they otherwise could.

Both are sneaky, crafty, and witty

Neither type is able to get themselves out of a bad mood. You must manage it or wait for it to pass.

Both are a little scared of people they actually like

Both are very playful and flirty

Key Differences

Entps get more Extraverted when truly connected to people

Intps never get Extraverted, but they can fake it for an hour or so

Happy entps talk non stop and have no filter.

Happy intps say weird stuff and are silly.

Sad entps are withdrawn sheeple with no spark.

Sad intps look like stereotypical sad infjs.

Grumpy entps are withdrawn, sullen, whiny and chaotic.

Grumpy intps are easily triggered, yell a lot, and say a lot more than normal.

Mad entps want to give the silent treatment, but fail cos you don't notice in 5 minutes. EXPLOSION.

Mad intps can give you the absolute silent treatment in a way that no one else notices they're not talking to you.

Intps are generally craftier. That is, they generally always have an adaptable plan.

Entps love arguing. If you accuse them of something they'll defend thsmelves, not realising it makes everyone 100 times madder and does the opposite of what they intended.

Intps hate conflict. If you accuse them of something they'll shut down.

Entps are more emotional. They cry more and get more upset when they hurt people - they can be an absolute roller-coaster when repressing Fe.

Intps are more even tempered. They almost never cry, unless someone died. They can be manipulative and disconnected when repressing Fe.

Entps are more up in the air. They don't always have a plan, but they might have a rough idea of where they want to end up.

Intps are more stressed by uncertainty in life. They like to know what's going to happen to them - have a secure job, income, etc.

Entps are more stressed by routine in life. They hate being locked into things and may have a melt down and run away if they feel stuck.

IMHO, entps are cute and soft on the inside, with the angry strong mask on the outside.

IMHO, intps are memorising, powerful, mystical creatures I mistake for myself.

Problems They Cause

Entps are annoying for fun. Some would say mean, which is definitely true sometimes. They have pointless arguments and enjoy your pain. But not too much pain...

If an entp actually upsets you when they didn't mean to they'll *eventually* apologise profusely. They might be defensive at first, but if their Fe DOES kick in cos you made your point, they'll be very upset.

Entps truly apologise with words. Not just actions. An action only apology is a 'pls shut up' apology.

Intps are also annoying for fun sometimes, but that's not their MO. They only do that to family.

Intps avoid apologising with words, and if they do, they'll say it once, very softly. Entps will say it 100 times until they're sure it's okay.

Intps are more likely to have a Si grip, where they run around complaining about weird small details and obsessively fix everything. Note the fixing, because that's the stage entps don't get to.

Entps can cause problems by insulting people or biting off their heads and not understanding why they upset the person.

Intps can cause problems because theu fear conflict and are too scared to stick up for themselves.

Entps have trouble remembering things. Not facts, but commitments and things about people, like how you like eggs cooked or something.

Intps can rewrite the past, but generally understand people quite well. Just not emotions.

Melt downs

Intp melt downs are mean. When an intp is stressed or upset they get pretty whiny and say mean things to upset people. This mood will last for a while, so if it's short lived you just have a normal entp on your hands.

Entp melt downs are insane. They literally look insane like a headless chicken or something. They run around in circles, they can't seem to focus on anything, they'll cry and organise random small details that don't actually fix the problem, and they'll probably go and get themselves locked into something if you don't chill them out quickly.

Relationships

Entps flirt less. Probably because their Fe is slightly higher so they can't do it as much before actually falling themselves 😂

Intps flirt shamelessly. In their way, not in like a normal way. This way is so subtle, with the eyes and the interest, and I'm not fully sure if they mean it. It could legit be their effort to use low Fe.

Basically, an entp flirting with you at least likes you as a friend. An intp flirting with you might not even like you.

When feeling lonely, an intp will seek for friends by talking to people they see everyday. They only want 1 person, so they're very selective.

When feeling lonely, an entp will join a club, or show up to more parties than usual. They want to find a family, to be accepted.

Both types think they fall in love easily, but an entp won't do anything unless it's legit. Intps can get led by Fe and ask any nice person out.

Entps commit faster. Probably because they understand their feelings more than the intp and aren't misled as easily.

Despite low Si, both commit in relationships quickly if they feel it's right. They secretly long for emotional connection and will jump in for it if they find it at all.

Entps like being physically close to people they're connecting with, and will lean forward, or touch if they're allowed

Intps want you to stay away. Hugs are for special occasions.

Talking

Entps love giving advice, they want to be helpful, needed, and valued. They can give some very strange advice.

Intps avoid giving advice. They want their independence, and they assume everyone feels the same. They don't want unsolicited advice, and neither do you!

Entps are much more blunt. They're more likely to let it slip that they don't like you, or you're mean.

Intps are much more theoretical. They won't let it slip they don't like you, they'd rather talk about something vaguely interesting like Marxism.

Entps like sharing their weird Ne vibes. They'll point out if they think you're lying, in love, or worried.

Intps prefer to accumulate their Ne vibes into secret knowledge they might be able to use against you one day...

A warmed up entp gets louder and faster as the talk. This is their happiest state and can last for hours, even days.

A very tired intp gets louder and faster as they talk. This is very short lived.

Happy, relaxed Entps will share their steam of consciousness. They'll cut themselves off and say weird stuff and then forget what they said.

Happy, relaxed intps will share their stream of consciousness highlights, I've never heard them talk half as much as a happy entp!

How to Love

Intps are most likely to show love by being there for you and giving surprise gifts. Intps avoid talking about how they feel, so if they tell you it means a lot.

Entps are most likely to show love by buying you random things - and I mean random, like, mainly food and POTENTIALLY useful crap TBH - talking non stop, and saying random nice things about you.

Also, entps will say they love you a million times and get upset if you don't say it back every time, so try to keep up.

Intps want to discuss theory and share their minds/souls with you. They'll always have a little part they can't pry open for you, but they want you to be aware of that and maybe even do it for them.

Entps want to be one with you. They want to give their soul, have yours, and be completely at ease with someone else. If they feel like you're that person you're probably in for a sudden headache tbh, cos they talk A LOT and LOUDLY.

Entps show love the way they want to receive it, except for the part where they talk over you, bite your head off, and argue with everything you say. Not those bits, that will actually really upset your entp. If you do it to show them how upsetting it is, make sure you point it out before they cry so you can smile and finally help their Fe see why everyone is upset with them...

No seriously, you have to be super careful what you say to your entp. Their brains interpret things weirdly, especially when younger. They're paranoid. For *nfjs, remember how insecure you were at like 12. That's your entp now.

Intps are similar to entps, but they appear more resilient. They're not. They don't handle anything as well as they appear to, be nice to them.

Basically, *ntps are kind of arrogant and egotistical, so don't let them lead you down the path of patting their ego. Tell them if they're mean or wrong, but reaffirm you love them.

The intp probably won't talk to you for a bit if you do the above, but they will eventually learn and grow 😊

The entp may cry and probably won't remember until the fifth time.

Finally

Intps actually talk about their emotions very intelligently when they want to, which is why they can sound like infjs.

Meanwhile, as much as they enjoy being therapised by infjs, entps don't have the knack of doing their own emotional analysis by themselves...