'Inclusive Language' is an attack on women

This is a receipts blog which records all the times in media where dehumanising 'trans inclusive' language is used to refer to women, where people feel the need to 'correct' their language to make it more inclusive, and when the changing of this language/erasure of our sex class has harmed women's sex based rights. Also taking examples of where the same people/companies refer to men as men. While women are called dehumanising things like 'uterus havers' and 'vagina owners', men are still refer to as 'men' because 'trans inclusive language is a direct attack on women so that when conservatives start taking away women's rights, we cannot call out the misogyny since these laws 'affect people of all genders'. We will not be silent. We will not be erased.

[gas-station-hotdog-deactivated2]

“People with breasts” shut up shut up shut up just say women good fucking god

The trans rights movement and its consequences have been a disaster for women.

[momogender]

I hope everyone is clear on the fact that this dehumanizing misogynistic language becoming common place in the medical industry is going to harm women and probably already is. when doctors and hospitals and massive organizations like WHO and CDC promote this shit, what they're really doing is telling women that they are second class citizens who are so subhuman that they are referred to by their body parts like fucking cattle. this is in an industry where we already know that our needs are going to be downplayed, dismissed, and outright ignored. and I don't want them to act surprised when that ends with women avoiding medical institutions like the plague & leading to illnesses going unnoticed and untreated, possibly ending in chronic illness, disability, or death.

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

‘People with breasts

Everyone has breast tissue though...

[totallyradfeminist]

TikTok is now saying “men and misogyny-affected people”. What the actual fuck? How is this not erasure of women? Nobody except women can be affected by misogyny. The word itself means hating women.

[thatkindoffeminist]

🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

First new post in a while

[antiplondon]

I will never understand how liberal women will go “we are not incubators for fetuses” then they proceed to call every pregnant woman a fetus carrier to be gender neutral

That’s gender delirium folks!

[darwinsfinches-deactivated20210]

Definitely let me know if you ever see this happening because I only ever hear terms like this on blogs from trans phobic who are obviously making up straw men

I’m not saying it never happens I mean you know transmeds for example are incredibly misogynistic. But a huge point of using gender neutral language is also just ease-of-use and saying things like fetus carriers just is not concise like regardless of morality

Anyways I definitely urge people to let me know if you see this happening because I don’t think it would be wrong to say that I have more experience with trans people than the average transphobia and I’ve personally never seen that kind of degrading language it would raise my hackles immediately so it’s not some thing I would not notice

I guess I mostly hang out with non-liberals who are like more leftists than liberal so I guess there’s that

I’m also not sure that this person knows what delirium means

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[overgrown-moss]

Never once have I seen anyone, much less a company that sells hygiene products for AFAB people say anything other than

“Those with (x)” or

“People who (insert bodily function here)”

[antiplondon]

@neurodivergentcreature  @overgrown-moss

If you can’t understand why calling women ‘menstruaters’ ‘bleeders’ ‘uterus owners’ ‘cervix havers’ etc etc is degrading, I really can’t help you. Trans activists are constantly accusing radical feminists and gender critical activists of ‘reducing women to their genitalia’ because we know what the biological reality of being a woman is, but then go on to insist that women are referred to by these degrading biological terms that reduce us to our body parts.

And it is happening, a lot, from cancer charities referring to women as ‘anyone with a cervix’ despite the fact that a lot of women, especially older women and women who do not have English as a first language won’t recognise those words as referring to them, and therefore may miss out on vital cancer screening.

To suppliers of menstrual products calling women ‘menstruaters’ and ‘bleeders’.

And if you think this really doesn’t matter, how about we start referring to trans women as ‘prostate havers’?

‘Trans women are women’ but boring old ‘cis’ women are ‘uterus owners’ and ‘birthing bodies’.

[absoluteunitpussy]

i hate saying 'gaslighting' but...

[emilywithopinion]

Notice how it’s always non-man, birthing parent, fetus carrier, cervix haver... Yet it’s never non-woman, impregnator, inseminator, prostate haver...

The only purpose of liberal feminism is to oppress women, sexually traumatize lesbians, replace conversion therapy with much more invasive surgical procedures and as made painfully evident in this post, to completely erase mothers and the millenia of oppression and abuse mothers respectively have gone through. Society went from males thinking semen was purified blood and the womb was just an incubator, to liberal feminist females thinking a woman is a mythical being and the womb is only an incubator.

Liberal feminism is not feminism, it’s patriarchal oppression rebranded to suck in women and make them comply.

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

There’s too many. I’m not tagging all these but here you go

[radjoy]

I blacked out a ton of it because this had a picture of the woman’s face and I don’t want to draw attention to her but a witch I follow on Instagram did this “make an assumption and I’ll tell you if it’s true” thing and:

“AFAB ppl” vs “a man”. This woman is genuinely brilliant but she’s talking about women self hating and like - men get to keep their name, while we have to bend to the current wave of what men have okayed us calling ourselves? Talk about qualifying everything and diminishing our ideas lol.

[rad-octopus]

"men get to keep their name"

That wording made me realize how similar this kind of is to traditional marriage name taking: men get to keep their name, while women are pressured into erasing themselves, subsuming themselves into the man's name.

[spookyterf]

this is so fucking funny. she's trying to be gender inclusive or whatever but by distinguishing "AFABs" from "men" she's still excluding trans women.

[you-cannot-shut-me-up]

I used to do the same thing back when I was still steeped in the gender juice. Even then, I knew perfectly damn well women are marginalized as a class on the basis of sex. But I also wanted to be good and inclusive, so I’d play those same linguistic games in order to talk about sexism. “AFAB, people assumed to be female, people that are assumed to be women”, and so on.

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

AFAB people. If only we had a word to describe these people like men have one to describe themselves

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

I have a question. After submitting the "menstruation sufferer post" , I'm wondering if there are any instances of men being called something like "penis owning individuals" or something similar? If not, why? Sorry if this is frequently asked or annoying.

No, this isn’t frequently asked! 

I do have a couple of tags for men, but there’s really not many.

There’s sperm producers. Penis people. Penis haver. Prostate owning people. Then there’s the same for men tag which shows all the times women and men are both referred to by the same sort of ‘trans-inclusive language’. But you’ll notice that even though I have tags for all these things, there’s only a couple of examples in each.

But, the biggest is obviously not the same for men. Really shows how this trans-inclusive stuff is an attack on women only. 

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

ok so i found this on a Wattpad book and 

"menstruation sufferer"

I guess I’m a menstruation sufferer now lmao

[bucketfullofstars]

Weird question

Me and my friend where trying to come up with a gender neutral term for surrogate mother.

All I could come up with was surrogate baby manufacturer

[malkath-ha-zonot]

This is your brain on liberalism

[terfmomo]

TRAs: terfs only see women as baby making machines

also TRAs: completely unironically suggests that we refer to women as BABY MANUFACTURER

[w0rship-the-v]

Reproductive thief and abuse victim!

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

Surrogate BABY MANUFACTURER.

Jesus, I thought it was bad when I saw ‘foetus carrier’ yesterday 🙄

[blackgoatofthewoodz-deactivated]

Men vs 'carriers'/(body part) owners

[omnivore-odyssey]

I’m not a fucking “fetus carrier” or a “uterus holding individual”!!!!!

*screams into pillow*

[bullydyke-deactivated20210902]

This is intentional. They are trying to frame this as a "cis"man exclusive problem and not a male one, despite admitting all females suffer the consequences. This sets up being a transwoman as a literal get out of jail free card for male privilege and frees transwomen up to pretend they're a third category in the dynamic of sex based oppression and that "ACTUALLY, men oppress afabs and transwomen, and afabs oppress transwomen, we have it the hardest."

[illalwaysbehere]

Yup. They will do literally anything to absolve a man of his privilege as long as he doesn't call himself a man.

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

‘Foetus carrier’ is the worst one I've heard in a while

[boredotaku567-deactivated202204]

"People who menstruate"- you mean women, women are the only people who menstruate why do you have a problem calling them women. This channel is Indian, india where most young girls dont even know what the word menstruate even is. This just downright dehumanising calling women who are half the population by their bodily functions.

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

‘Especially men. But people who menstruate’

Another example about how men don't have to face this kind of language.

Do trans men come understand the people who menstruate or the men? Seriously. Because they didn't even say ‘cis men’ but just ‘men’ which must include trans men, right?

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

boo fucking hoo cry me a river nobody cares and you need to stop being so sensitive 🤡

TRAs throw hissy fits if you use the wrong pronouns. MRAs throw temper tantrums at ‘men are trash’ and would absolutely despise being called ‘penis people’ and ‘sperm produces’.

But you’re right. Me being annoyed at the erasure of women’s class consciousness by refusing to recognise our biological sex and our sex-based oppression and also understanding that trans inclusive is making things less accessible to women (especially those who don't speak English as their first language) since they don't know that they have a vulva/cervix/uterus/etc is absolutely the problem here. Your ask has changed my mind about everything and made me realise that all the problems I thought about related to women’s oppression are just petty issues with me being over sensitive so I'm just going to shut up and accept everything for what it is because this random anon, who didn't even have the bravery to have their name attached to this ask, has made me realise that anyone who fights against their oppression is just a b*tch Karen who’s being oversensitive to everything and would be better off if they shut the fuck up and pretended that we live in a utopia where oppression doesn't exist but also they should go back to the kitchen and make sandwiches.

[imaginesandall]

Cant believe my app for my cycle is draging jk rowling

[shifinfik-deactivated20220414]

Look it's time to uninstall that app since menstruation is still use to say women are unclean.

Anyways uterus=women

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

I fucking hate when they compare it to how ‘inclusive’ language has changed. Sorry, but changing from a male-default word (fireman) to a gender-neutral one (firefighter) is completely different to referring to a whole class of people by their bodily functions.

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

"Inclusive language is an attack on women" literally how? I'm female, but I don't see an issue with the words at all

For a cult which constantly screams about how radical feminism ‘reduces women to their genitals’, you really don’t see the irony.

Inclusive language literally reduces women to their genitals and organs. Do you think calling women ‘vagina owners’ and ‘uterus havers’ is somehow not reductive, misogynistic, and insulting?

Secondly, inclusive language serves to separate our issues from our sex and ignores how our issues affect our entire sex. An issue which affects ‘uterus owners’, affects us because of our sex. An issue which affects ‘vagina owners’, affects us because of our sex.

The one which really gets me is ‘period havers’ because it makes it out like the issues are mainly around just actually having issues and not misogyny leading to stereotyping (’she’s irrational because she’s PMSing’/’we can’t trust WOMEN being in charge because what will happen when they’re on their period’), dismissing our emotions (’she’s just angry because she’s on her period’), and ignoring or dismissing the pain we experience (’it can’t be that bad so just get over it’). These things have happened to me and I haven’t had a period in two years. Questions about what Clinton would do as president when she was PMSing was used to dismiss her during her campaign and she probably hasn’t had a period in twenty years. So I hope you can understand the point I’m making here: so many period-related stigmas are due to misogyny and wanting to dismiss us, regardless of we’re actually ‘period havers’ or not and as someone who hasn’t had a period in two years this one really gets to me. 

[emerald-studies]

I had 3 periods in one month after being tear gassed.

My friend who was protesting regularly, and being exposed to tear gas, had a cyst the size of an orange form on her uterus.

My other friend had her period for a straight month after being tear gassed.

There isn’t enough research right now that examines the long term effects of tear gas on people with uteruses. Who knows what could happen to us.

This is America.

[opabiniawillreturn-deactivated2]

for $1 say "women"

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

I like that the phrase ’people with uteruses’ can be read like ’people who have more than one uterus’ and that’s just a bit exclusionary, don't you think?

[radicallyme]

watch out people, women now are referred to as "period havers" and these people are the ones that have the audacity to say that radfems diminish women to their genitalia

can we also note that she "trigger warned" periods???? wtf this the mentality that puts periods as taboos and make women feel ashamed of their bodies

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

So periods are taboos which we shouldn’t talk about but we should use the term ‘period haver’ rather than women?

Makes sense.

[coochiequeens]

Even when men get it they don’t, and libfems on Facebook will be fine with that. How many libfems know that if they object to terms like “persons with uterus” these same male allies will just respond by replying with accusations of TERF?

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

Fuck sake

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

Here is a blog I recently found in my mailbox, from a womb wellness provider, calling women with PCOS "bleeders"

https://www.wombenwellness.com/you-can-heal-from-pcos/

I wrote them that I found this language problematic (it´s ableist, xenophobic and on top of it, is incredibly insensitive to call women with PCOS bleeders).

Their answer was: 

“Thank you for your feedback. Respectfully, the language it intentionally chosen to promote an inclusive and empowering environment. We have the power to take back the meaning of "Bleeders” and harness it as a power.“

Sorry, but I do not see any power in assisting my own erasure.

Yeah, I checked this out and they referred to women with PCOS as ‘bleeders’ and ‘people who bleed’ so many times. As a woman with PCOS, this is so fucking offensive to me and especially so because I haven’t had a period in two years so how can I even be considered a ‘bleeder’ before you even add in the highly misogynistic part of it. There’s no part of this that’s justifiable. 

[cizbian]

me when i definitely don’t reduce people to their genitals

[erasureofwomenslanguage]

😓