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When somebody asks me what my hobbies are and I tell them “I don’t really do much,” it’s because it is impossible for me to explain how most of my free time is spent googling shit like “industrial meat packing terminology”
Hot take:
The Hunger Games is like The Walking Dead. Here's why:
A LOT OF THE CHARACTERS YOU LIKE END UP DYING
Watched The Hunger Games last night like all of them because I had a movie night, and I literally thought of The Walking Dead.
Every time someone I liked died it just reminded me y'know?
Does anyone else feel this way?
💀💀💀
Nice things I will say about the newest Sunrise on the Reaping trailer: the sets look gorgeous, the cinematography looks great, and I have no doubt it’ll be one nice-looking movie.
I found this comment on Reddit. They're talking about the Sunrise on the Reaping book.
I disagree with the "Sunrise on the Reaping feels like fanfiction" thing that some of the other The Hunger Games fans love to spout. And I disagree with what the person in the comment said.
Listen, I love that Suzanne Collins gave names to all 48 tributes in The 50th Games. "NOBODY" the commenter said. Well, I'm someone who is glad Suzanne named them all. It made the book feel more real to me, more fleshed out. I hated that every tribute wasn't named in the first book. I hated the first book in general, actually. SOTR succeeded where THG#1 failed.
Also, in this one story I'm writing, I gave names to all of the children in the two different societies that are in the story. There are over 70 of those children. I did that because SOTR inspired me to, and I'm glad I did that.
And I like that every tribute in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes has a name too, for the same reason that I liked SOTR for doing it. Every tribute being named made the book feel more real and fleshed out.
I know my last paragraph was hilarious but don’t take it out of situ!! 😭
My point was this: the choice to include the tributes’ names made the book feel like fanfiction— because doing so is a staple in fanfic. Folks love naming their whole Games rosters!
Okay so hear me out because I think this would be funny:
What if Gale and Katniss weren't cousins, but Gale and Peeta were?
I've got this headcanon wherein Gale's father grew up merchant. Oh, what? You hate that? You're asking me how am I going to explain how they end up so impoverished? I got that covered.
If you will, please imagine a merchant boy 'sparking' teen Hazelle and falling pregnant. And let's presume this causes a huge blowout with his family and he stays with Hazelle's folks for a while. And his parents don't like that one bit. Maybe they threaten to bring their unlawful cohabitation to the attention to the Peacekeepers if their punk ass kid doesn't come home.
Rather than do that, though, young Mr. Hawthorne marries Hazelle. And they move into one of those Capitol-'provided' coalminer's houses... two years before he's old enough to start earning wages in the mines. And that's how they fall into a type of debt they never get out of. That's where the guy starts learning how to trap small game. Maybe his first snares are adapted from the types of traps his family used to use to catch mice in the back of their shop.
I'm not going to act like canon suggests any of this, but it supports my argument. I can explain why Gale and Katniss look similar (they're both mixed Seam/merchant). And I can explain why Gale's parents weren't mentioned in SOTR. They're younger than Haymitch.
So now let me use all of that reasonably digestible worldbuilding to suggest that Peeta's mom's maiden name is Hawthorne.
You know, since the gene pool in these books is about ankle deep. Why the fuck not?
Oh, to be a baby name consultant in Panem.
There is a major untapped market for Greco-Roman inspired Capitol loyalist names in District 1!
Do not write in fear of somebody fact checking your work.
Write in fear of an expert who doesn’t need to fact check. That is who the research is for.
you don’t need a new copy of the first hunger games book. even if there’s a new cover. you don’t need to replace your current copy just because there’s something shiny and new. your old copy should say the exact same thing. bigger problems if it doesn’t. it functions the same. it performs the same. you don’t need to buy something every time there’s something new.
However, if anyone would like to bulk up their collection and purchase this Extra Special “Well-Loved” Edition of Mockingjay directly from yours truly, it costs $100 USD and you get to personally remove it from my cold, dead hands. It would look incredible preserved on a bookshelf— and even better actually being read.
When Buttercup dies the last thing Katniss has to remember Prim by will be gone.
Which is exactly why you don’t ask Katniss where she got her orange fur lined mittens
I need to get a hot take off my chest. And it’s not even a hot take, I swear. It’s the God’s honest truth and I’m tired of acting like it’s not.
I know we sing the casting directors’ praises in the Hunger Games fandom, but I’ve got concerns I hadn’t considered before the SOTR trailer dropped. Concerns I haven’t stopped thinking about since.
I just don’t think it was very fair of them to expect the Australian lead to train his voice in the amount of time he was given to prepare for the role.
I’m afeared that Zada boy can’t do an American accent, let alone an Appalachian one. He speaks with special attention to Woody Harrelson’s certain Woody Harrelsonisms, but that trailer was rough. Wtf do you mean you’re sick of living in “feeah”
Beetee naming his son Ampert is like if Gale named his son Snaremy
Okay in hindsight it's kind of an inconsistency that Plutarch mentions that ML deepfake tech got banned in the capitol, because in Catching Fire during the 75th hunger games Katniss and Finnick are attacked by jabberjays screaming in the voices of their loved ones. Finnick fears that the jabberjays picked up the sounds from their loved ones being tortured and Beetee explains that it's possible to spoof the sound using audio samples of ordinary speech. Which... sounds exactly like deepfake tech. The capitol is obviously willing to use it. Plutarch's complaint that the tech was abolished is a clear retcon
As much as I disliked SOTR for its sloppy handling of damn-near every thought and concept it brought up, I don’t think this is a cut and dry retcon.
Using the umbrella term “deepfake” creates an ugly plot hole when none truly has to be present. Here, “deepfake” is encompassing two inequivalent methods of visual/auditory deception. One of which— the one Suzanne took a clear jab at in SOTR— did not exist at the time of writing the other example.
In my heart of hearts, I know Plutarch’s line in SOTR about abolished tech exists solely for Suzanne to voice her opinion on AI slop. From the one paragraph where she stops the story to vaguely explore this concept, I believe she’s implying specifically artificial intelligence generated video was outlawed in Panem.
While the jabberjay audio in CF can absolutely be considered deepfake technology, it’s not created how Plutarch described the abolished tech in SOTR. While Beetee claims the process to alter audio is so easy that schoolchildren from his district are able to do it, it’s implied they’re able to use programs to modulate the audio manually.
So, SOTR suggests the computer generated side of the “deepfake” coin was outlawed and CF leads me to believe the human generated side has been left alone. Or regulated. Or allowed to exist, at the very least.
Does dispelling this potential plot hole make SOTR a good book now? Fuck no.
"plutarch loved a girl from the districts and changed!"
he actually most likely just read Fahrenheit 451 and animal farm
cause he has a library
this is mentioned many times
No way, he definitely fell for a Covey girl named Annabel Rose Baird and had to see her tragically die on the arena, this is why he changed his mind on the Capitol.
So tragic 🥀
OC Name Ideas (The Hunger Games)
I have dedicated my downtime at work these past couple weeks to compile a list of name ideas for characters from Panem. I would never accuse this document of being comprehensive or even comprehensible-- nor am I even nearly done with it-- but I thought I'd throw it out as a resource/jumping off point for others.
Currently, I am working on being less precious about the names I'm adding, which means I'm going to go back through every extant (and semi-extant) Roman play and rake up every name they've got for Capitol/Capitol-loyalist district-born characters' names. That list is already pretty extensive. I am not going to add every single Greek name I stumble across because not all of them ring particularly Suzanne Collinsian.
I am also working my way through every gemstone and mineral that sounds reasonably 'namey,' so that's on the District 1 sheet for now even though plenty of them need to be moved to other districts.
Districts 8-12 are, admittedly, sparse. The goal is to have at least two dozen names, both masculine and feminine, per district.
The Covey section is very much so incomplete. I've not finished combing through songs and I haven't even touched poetry yet.
Bascom Pie’s Covey.
And I could probably die on this hill if it were even really a hill. It’s more of a gravel pile that keeps swallowing up my feet whenever I try climbing it. But, please, hear me out.
His namesake just about has to be Bascom Lamar Lunsford, who was a folklorist who recorded and collected Appalachian music through the 1920s. He, and people like him, are the reason why we even have records of the sort of music the Covey appear to have access to. I’ve got to imagine the records/songbooks/whatever the Covey have their hands on has the man’s name on it someplace.
And Pie is, admittedly, not a color— nor is it color related. But pied is. You’ll hear pied most often referring to bird or horse coloration. It’s a word folks use to describe something multicolored, splotched, or patched with color. Like a motley of colors. And if Haymitch is a bastardization or Hamish, I think Pie’s allowed to be a bastardization of Pied.
“Pie might be Bascom Pie’s last name,” I hear you saying. Then why is he the only person in the book always referred to by his first and last name? “It might be a Greasy Sae type nickname,” you say. And I have to confess you might be on to something. But Greasy Sae is greasy because she’s a cook. Bascom Pie is a moonshiner and pie doesn’t seem to make obvious sense to me. If it was Bascom Mash I wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. But it’s not. It’s Pie. Checkmate.
Regardless, his character is a waste of a good name. Just like Blair. Hardly mentioned, near irrelevant, and if they didn’t exist I’d know just what to name my goddamn District 12 OC.
Sitting here with a single Extra Hard hard seltzer in me, wondering why the newest 48-tribute Hunger Games book wasn’t used as an allegory for school shootings. Might write a 250k fic rewriting Haymitch’s games later. Idk.
We assume that Katniss doesn't convince everyone in the districts of the authenticity of her love for Peeta because Snow says so. Snow believes that convincing the districts will calm them down. But Snow, as characterized in the prequels, fundamentally does not understand love.
Katniss DOES convince most everyone in the districts. The only district people to question the love story are the other victors, because they alone understand how the Capitol's propaganda works, how stories are controlled and victors are forced to play their part.
But when Katniss visits District 8, everyone seems fully convinced. People assure Katniss that they know Peeta was just speaking under duress. They're so upset about Katniss "losing the baby" that one woman actually weeps over it. The everyday District citizens buy into it fully.
The issue is that Snow doesn't understand how powerful love is. Katniss and Peeta's act fuels the rebellion instead of tamping it because choosing love over violence is rebellious. Like when Katniss and Peeta hold hands and Haymitch calls it the perfect touch of rebellion, or when Katniss covers Rue with flowers, or when all the victors hold hands on interview night. Compassion, love, friendship between competitors, it's all in defiance to the Capitol's agenda.
Snow thought that the districts would hear, "I'm just a silly little harmless teenage girl doing impulsive things because I'm in love! How nice of the Capitol to let me keep my boyfriend!" Instead they heard, "My love gave me the courage to defy the Capitol." They heard, "My love held firm in the face of all the Capitol's power and cruelty. I refuse to kill him or even passively let him die." They heard, "The Capitol is not strong enough to corrupt a steadfast heart." And if the Capitol can't even overcome two teenagers' puppy love, it certainly can't overcome thousands of adults' love for their neighbors, children, and homes, or a unified people's passion for freedom and justice.
Snow underestimated love, and it was his downfall.