Filloax

Dev for Binding of Isaac Revelations, Deltarune nerd (YT [ita] @Filloaax, twitch twitch.tv/filloaxtv)

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Watched TADC finale. Won't say shit, but I liked it! Am also not info fandom theories or whatever for this series, so don't care about that part I know many people will hate it but hey, it was going to happen regardless of the ending so

And now watch people that do get pissed do so because of some dumbass reason instead of some actual writing issues are probably there but I don't care enough to think of

Still: personally liked it!

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TL; DR: I realized Toriel in Deltarune might not actually hate Asgore, and is more uncomfortable like you'd be with a closed one that lost themselves to obsessions.

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To elaborate: when playing Deltarune, many people including me had a question regarding Toriel and Asgore's relationship, in that it seems much worse than in Undertale where he had killed children (or still, humans, I'm still not convinced they were all kids), most or all of which Toriel had taken care of at some point. So, if it is worse, the question would be "what did he even do in Deltarune for her to hate him even more than in Undertale?"

My initial standing idea was either

It's a more grounded setting than Undertale, so it's probably a more mundane issue that gives a more emotional response, like some closer to life bad events in fiction feel much worse than apocalyptic things like ends of the world in the same fiction

They are immortal in Undertale so they had 100+ years of separation to mull it over, and generally have a perspective further from IRL people (which, by the way, can often lead to issues personally in fiction, what do you mean Ganyu GenshinImpact acts like stock shy waifu when she's millennia old and participated in the God Wars TM)

Then, Ch3+4 came out, and while he certainly does something worse (the am-bush), her reactions still felt off, to me: not in a "I blame her" like some folk do, actually almost in the opposite sense, I had expected her to react more strongly, at the very least least when not in front of him, but here they gave me now a different feeling.

Then after replaying recently I realized... she doesn't actually hate him, in her behavior? Her being mentioned as praying for him by Alvin initially confused me, but I realized her behavior is more uncomfortable (very much so) than angry.

So, what my current idea of their relationship is: something happened and Asgore has been likely obsessed with finding the truth about The Incident (assuming Dess, but irrelevant here exactly what). Likely supernatural shit is involved, which from Toriel and everyone else's POV is impossible, so she just saw her husband spiraling into a bad place, and likely dragging people around him down with him.

And, when similar things happen IRL, someone going into bad circles, having a bad substance abuse issues, or a cult, or other things, people close to them will likely initially try to help them, but if it's no use it's not rare to get away from the person to avoid needlessly suffering, even if you do not hate them, you just realize here is no use in making yourself suffer more.

This reading more or less makes everything about that particular relationship fit, in my opinion. Toriel prays for Asgore because even if she does not want to be involved personally with him at the very least until he gets over this (and likely, at this point it would never go back to more than vaguely amicable like in what's implied by Undertale's alarm clock stuff), she still wishes for him to get better.

Even explains the apparent beef Toriel has with Carol in Ch4: she might be helping, or pretending to help, Asgore with his investigation obsession, and from Toriel's POV in that case she'd be enabling him.

There are still assumptions being made (mostly about the nature of The Incident being supernatural => Toriel not believing it over her now-ex-husband just having broken down after a bad event), of course

Man, I'm bad at not writing walls of text

(Pardon me for possible strange wording, for how terminally online I am English is still not my first language)

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The fact the new genshin quest has at least one plot point in common with SCP's There is no Antimemetics Division is fascinating

Was a while since I enjoyed a quest from that game, and this one is quite good (vague spoilers below)

I mean specifically the "the enemy can know everything an thus you must work in the one space it cannot see into", even if of course in SCP it's a far more oppressive situation. And infohazards in general, I guess? Probably more if I think on it

Still got to finish the quest at time of writing tho

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new act: windows buster

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Deltarune 3d print collection grows!

Everything but big ralsei was painted by a friend as I dislike painting as an activity lol, thanks to them

(RK I guess I painted the visor but it's like 1 bit)

Amiibos are potentially functional if I take the RFid from an existing amiibo and place it in there!

Models:

Tenna and cooler Ralsei by Dotflare

Everything else by Vibapop

Bases by me (RK is supposed to have a dark fountain lol)

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Correction as I forgor: bases for the amiibos are *not* by me but I sadly forgot where I got the files, they were free amiibo base models though; I made the Deltarune cover (that is barely visible in that photo) for those + the other bases

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Deltarune 3d print collection grows!

Everything but big ralsei was painted by a friend as I dislike painting as an activity lol, thanks to them

(RK I guess I painted the visor but it's like 1 bit)

Amiibos are potentially functional if I take the RFid from an existing amiibo and place it in there!

Models:

Tenna and cooler Ralsei by Dotflare

Everything else by Vibapop

Bases by me (RK is supposed to have a dark fountain lol)

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Maa people are fighting about UTY clover's gender again

And, though I have no direct horse in the race being a cis guy myself, I can't help but notice in the case of the properly* nb chars from the base game, how all the "it's just a genderswap, it's a common thing in fanart" folk seem to not notice how much more often it seem to happen for them in particular.

I cannot help but wonder why I never saw Dude Muffet without specifically searching it**, but "genderswapped version" of Frisk/Chara are quite common to see without going out of your way to. Truly a mistery as to why.

*as in, more-or-less canon as opposed to explicitly stated to be up for interpretation

**I haven't, I quite like miss Muffet to a Merg degree, was just an example of something I'm confident would never make numbers in a generalist space lol

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Saw the Deltarune Unpopular Opinions on <character> twitter thing and my comment is as follows

Then again, it was the unpopular opinions thread, not the generally agreed upon opinions thread, so that's just following the assignment

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Deltarune shower thought: if Susie is associated to hopes, and for now she seems to be a mirror of sorts of Dess in various ways, what if Dess is associated to dreams

Probably old but still

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Finished the Ralsei 3d print! Model by Dotflare, based on the design of user<a bunch of numbers> on Twitter (the guy who made those Gorillaz deltarune fanart + a bunch of cool specifically design stuff)

Was harder than expected, because even if the model was already there it was not made for printing but animation, so adapting assorted non physically possible parts took a while. I could go into mor detail on how to adapt that kind of thing later maybe but I'm no blender pro

Base is custom, printed two different colours for the base and deltarune then joined them

(also I loathe painting and even if this was 90% green spray the few parts I had to paint were annoying, though I ended up doing the hidden bits like the assorted accessories on hands/bracelets hidden by the cloak here)

Very satisfied by result! Even painting as limited by my non skill

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WIP ralsei 3d print yay

Now i have to find the time and energy to actually paint the details that need painting

Model by Dotflare, modified by me to be physically printable as it was not intended for this purpose lol

Based on the design by I forget current nick but user<a bunch of numbers> on Twitter, the person that makes the baller gorillaz-ish fanart

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I feel too old* to go into this but: for how much people are talking about super layered romantic plot twists that will certainly come in the next Deltarune chapters, you'd expect the focus of the game to shift past-midpoint into a full blown romance story, RPG stuff and prophecy falling by the side, GasterBullshitTM dead in a ditch like the pool skeleton meme

BTW this refers to actual game theorycrafting, if it's just fanart/fiction/stuff go off and go wild, I'm eating all of y'all stuff ravenously (not being that much into shipping per se doesn't make most related fanart any worse than other fanart, and seems to give more fuel to fanartists so that's good)

\* Am not actually particularly old, but certainly feel like it sometimes in these regards lol

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Was streaming* the other day and the subject of the Evil Ass Fountain Openers :tm: as a general plot addition in Ch4 came up. And there I realized the (at least, one) reason I like that plot element so much:

Often, in games (probably other kinds of stories too, but let's keep to games) with a meta element, the meta element is the end point of the mystery. Even in UT, finding out SAVING is this whole in-world thing related to Determination, canonizing the 4th wall break** in a way, is the end of the story, kind of.

In Deltarune, probably also relying on the fact you played UT and so take the metaness** as granted, it is not the answer to the mistery, just one ingredient of it. And so, having this whole conspiracy that, in common opinion, likely did something with this whole soul extradimensional/4th-wall-breaky**/world-foundations-fucky thing, to advance their own complex goals, is way more interesting to me.

Example in another context: take a D&D-like setting where resurrection magic exists, say Dungeon Food. In there it's just a ingredient like another to create a mistery. Maybe (made up example) a murder mistery where the victim actually died twice, and id something between resurrection and 2nd murder. That's what I mean by using something as an ingredient.

Nothing bad in the simpler way, of course. Just this addition plays with the Soul stuff in a way that becomes more interesting. Probably not the only reason I like this plot element having been introduced, but still

Hopefully this post makes sense, didn't want to ramble too much so I may have skipped over or oversimplified things

*Don't get the wrong idea, I mean to like 2 people **Talking in general, regardless of the meta stuff being literal 4th wall breaks or wholly diegetic and representative, etc. etc.

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Post in another language vale a dire italiano e fuori tema vale a dire Inntale: ma sto finale di stagione?

Figo, interessante, anche se non posso fare a meno di pensare all'universo parallelo in cui non c'era una seconda stagione per mancanza di successo (ok, improbabile, pokemon, still) e finiva così lmao

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For some reason remembered about Undertale Yellow and looked again at its fan-stuff and assorted ending reactions (including my own) yesterday, and man it was so good

The ending music still makes me emotional

Clover the GOAT

Still unsure why its community and fancontent gives me a different vibe than base UT (not better or worse, just different in a way I cannot put my finger onto), I know why the games do and that's simply because I played UTY blind and UT not

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Ok, recent Delterune fandom dumbassery made me incidentally find out about That One Review.

The most frustrating part was it actually having somewhat good points on gameplay mechanics specifically, but man, way to bury them.

No, "annoying fans were going to be angry regardless so might as well pump it full of vitriol" (paraphrasing, a bit late to go back and check) is not the smart sentence you think it is, *especially* in the context of a purportedly objective review

I should just stick to reading things I enjoy in the free time from work lol

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Ok so, Deltarune translation debacle. yaay.

1. As an Italian, language which is in this context relatively privilieged as despite being officially spoken in 1.33 countries, at least mainstream media gets translated at least well enough usually: this whole thing is really weird because nobody here from what I know has ever been this outraged over that kind of thing? Some people prefer translations, of course, but people enough into internet to be aware of indie games usually don't expect italian to be among the few translated languages, and either learn english or wait for it. Not everything is made for everyone, after all. Smaller things regularly either don't get translated, or get a translation way later, and that's ok, they have to choose what to do and Italian is not the top choice.

Not to mention countries that don't even get the aforementioned privilege of having mainstream things usually translated. Even just in Europe, I saw (even before) folk saying they rarely get anything if ever translated. Hungarian, Polish, Ukrainian. Only mentioning other European countries because I already feel weird speaking for other people in this case and only saying it because I saw people from there saying this, and I'm certainly not going to talk for people in other continents. So, fuck us, I guess, only spanish is worthy enough of spurring a controversy over*. I'd say things like "I never saw people from there complaining" but that's not something I can say with a sample size of 5 randoms on the internet and my assumptions

2. Since OFF is part of what started the whole debacle - ironically that game is a great example of fan translations being a huge risk, as a mistranslated line near the end of the original translation that brought it outside of french-speaking places basically changed a VERY important part of the nature of the protagonist and world of the game by implication, and given the game's abstract nature that's an issue. Not to say fan translations are bad, on the contrary, I recently finished Ch3 of the Deltarune italian fan translation and they did an amazing job. It's just a good example of the inherent risk

Now, to conclude, some highlights of the peak Undertale Spaghetti Project translation (not necessarily ebset parts, but ones I have screenshotted), if you're italian play it, Roulx is good

*regarding translations, I understand the concert thing already better given the sheer size of the ignored area in South America compared to for example Europe, I'd still have personally liked one location below the northern part of Europe but I can live without and it's still a shorter distance compared to