Finely-Tuned Line

iterator oc ask/rp blog!

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OOC:

hello! i got bored and made an iterator oc ask blog. (also i just want to worldbuild and ramble abt my rain world specbio Ɛ>)

im your host, lime (or any of my other names. my main blog is @enlighten3d o7), i use they/them or any neopronouns.

i have SOME idea of plot/storyline for this, but do not let that hinder you from sending in asks abt anything or interacting in character, even if its irrelevant to the storyline! you can reply to ANYTHING on this blog thats in-character, even ftls logs!

anything that i post ooc, will have that little 'OOC:' thing at the top. anything thats in-character will have a 'RP:' at the top!

if you for some reason have questions for me specifically, PLEASE SPECIFY THAT YOURE TALKING TO ME. I DONT WANT TO WRONGLY ASSUME.

(also feel free to message me, i like talking. if you couldnt tell ꟼ: )

my posts are. long. cause i like writing and putting all my thoughts out there and stuff. apologies if thats not smth you want to read through?

i also run the @predictions-of-the-past blog! ^^ (and am one of the two people running the @local-crater-group blog)

and with that, let this start!

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(also, for anyone that doesnt want to go find the first in-character post, the oc this blog is for is as follows:

Finely-Tuned Line, the Senior Iterator of Local Group 16.

he uses he/him or ve/ven pronouns.

hes an iterator created for (beyond solving the great problem) genetic experimentation, and he enjoys his secondary purpose.

lore other than that shall be explained through posts (: )

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ANY ORANGE TEXT FTL IS APRIL FOOLS STUFF!! GO TO THE TAGS #rp OR #finely-tuned line FOR ACTUAL CONTENT THATS NOT ORANGE FTL

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OOC:

wow its been akmsot a year... anygays i dont want to delete tyhis blog but i probably wont be using it again (for the foreseeable future) so im gonna move ownership to an alt acc of mine. buh-bye!

if you need me im over at @enlighten3d, being insane about minecraft youtubers (yeah fuck you im an mcyt fan)

its been fun, it really has !

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would ou perhaps friendship marry upsilon

RP:

FTL: Odd question. I suppose I wouldn't be against it? I do not see any reasons why I would be. I'd say that if he offers, I'd accept.

FTL: Ignoring the fact that it's a rather unnecessary ritual created by the Ancients that has never served any purpose, especially these cycles. What is even the point of it? If a pair is willing to metaphorically tie themselves to one another for the rest of eternity - or until Ascension was/is discovered, depending on how you look upon it - then there's not much need to prove dedication. Frivolous.

FTL: I suppose that I have not much right to argue against it and point out the flaws in the practice if I did just say that I'd be willing to partake in the rite if asked.

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The rot?

only people who created modified creatures get that

you deserve this

-eternal anomaly

RP:

FTL: My whole purpose (beyond solving the Great Problem, of course) was for genetic experimentation. I am merely doing my job. If I enjoy said job, well then that is just a bonus.

FTL: All creatures are modified. Modifying them further is not going to change that much.

FTL: The Rot is simply a hazard that I must face, whether I deserve it or not is irrelevant.

FTL: And if this time is the time that the Rot gets me? Then I do deserve it, for not being able to handle it. The creatures will be fine, they'll wake back up again. They'll adapt.

FTL: I know what I'm doing.

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oh sure all creatures are modified

But if you actively modify creatures now you're ruining my observations of the natural mutations and evolutions

And it's really annoying seeing all the unoriginal, uninteresting, derivative things you people come up with too

especially if your bad enough to get infected by rot

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: You see, that just so happens to not be an issue that I care to bother myself with. You can do your research, I do mine. If our goals contradict one another, once again, not my issue.

FTL: Natural mutation may be what is interesting to you, but I am occupied with modification. I could not care less what you are doing, you are not part of my Local Group, and I have no responsibility to you - whether that be stopping my experimentation, or aiding you in your foolish quest.

FTL: And yet you dare to insult my work. Perhaps it does seem to be uncreative, pointless, and harmful to you. But unlike you, I look beneath the surface of the creatures, at their genetics. And I fix them. I don't leave them to run themselves into the ground, as you seem happy to do. Everything I do is calculated.

FTL: The Rot was a mistake on my part, yes. But this isn't the first time I've had it - even if this is a more potent strain of it. I have the proper facilities to rid myself of it, and I warned those around me.

FTL: It is your own issue if you are so insistent on parading yourself around like some sort of saviour of these beings when you do less than even I do.

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my foolish quest hmm

And what have you got to show for your own work? The rot

For your information I do look at their genetics, how else am I supposed to properly document whether it is a mutation of an environmental change

as for fixing them ...what makes you think they need fixing

Your own pathetic ego that can't bear to see anything left untouched?

And doing little

... doing little

Do you have any IDEA how hard it is to keep modified creatures out of MY regions

Any TINY bit of understanding within you how much work it is to remove those when I do find them

No no of course not you just make creatures and release them into the wild, then act surprised when you mess it up and get the rot

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I have a lot more than the Rot to show for my work. Just because you're too blind to see it is no fault of mine.

FTL: And what purpose does all your cataloguing and monitoring serve? Other than feeding your incessant nagging that modified lifeforms are inferiour to 'natural' ones.

FTL: But in the end, everything needs fixing. I'm just willing to do the job. Nothing - no one - is perfect, yet I'm getting closer to attaining it. Perhaps it is my 'ego', as you so call it, but I'm just feeding my curiosity as you are feeding yours. And while I'm at it, I am helping everyone. I'm doing what I was built for.

FTL: Either way, in the end, the creatures adapt to their new selves - all while being better than they ever were.

FTL: If you're doing so much to 'protect' your grounds from the 'monstrous modified', then why don't you go crawling back there? There's no need to impose your irrational desire for unmodified evolution on me.

FTL: Ah yes, the restricting of wildlife's habitats. The ones you kick out have lots more space to go, I'm sure. Namely, others' regions. Ones that don't judge them sheerly for their genetics.

FTL: So much effort, all for naught. Tell me, is there any reason that you wish so for the eradication of genetic modification? I can understand curiosity, I can understand obligation, I can understand understand boredom. What I cannot understand is the pure vile hatred you seem to hold for what I spend my time doing.

FTL: I never claimed to be surprised when this strain of Rot appeared. I was prepared for it, I am handling it. You dare insult my knowledge of what I am doing like that? If anything, I'm disappointed in myself. Not surprised. Never surprised. Anyone messing with genetics should be fully prepared for Rot, and I failed in that regard. I fully accept the consequences of my actions, and I have taken the necessary measures. This will not be happening again, there is no reason for you to keep bringing up my stupidity.

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Oh really, more than the rot

And do you have an example of these glorious benefits that you've gained from your work?

No?

Helping everyone except those your modification your ecosystem destabilizes and all the creature that you havent changed, oh and you do realize that those precious genes you're modifying came from the natural evolutions

Go crawling back to my grounds

You must be awfully stupid for an iterator, do you not realize that I can do more than one thing at once

Even the ancients could work and talk

And I think you misunderstand what I mean by remove

I mean remove them from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death

you've gotten the rot several times? Sounds like incompetence to me

Maybe you should stop making creatures

For your own health of course

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Well, the survival of multiple species for one, giving them the resources to survive for longer than half a cycle. The creation of multiple species. The species that you oh-so-wish to study.

FTL: And where exactly is the benefit of your work?

FTL: Do you really think that I am enough of a fool to release creatures that would destabilise the ecosystem. Those are on a specific part of my grounds. (And before you mention it, I am well aware that I am a hypocrite.) The only ones I release are those with beneficial modifications, such as those improving their immune system. Besides, the ecosystem adapts. Maybe it is wrong of me to 'carelessly' throw about my ability to genetically modify. But I don't think so. There have been no long-term negative effects so far. And I don't think there ever will be.

FTL: Of course the genetics originate from natural evolution. That's why they're imperfect. Nature is so fickle.

FTL: No, of course I understand that. But why must you interfere with my work if you have your own little 'safe haven'? Perhaps you're just weak of mind, not able to accept the existence of modified creatures, and how they too, are alive. Natural evolution is in no way superiour to modification.

FTL: I accept the risks of my work as they come. I will not be giving this up for something as insignificant as the Rot. I may succumb to it in the end, but that does not matter. I will not be giving up my work for something as insignificant as you and your petty little pipe dreams of a natural evolution either.

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survival of multiple species? Surely you can't be so idotic as to think species that still exist today are completely unable to survive for more than half a cycle.

And where did you get this information, on your modification infested grounds? Full of red lizards and centipedes I'm sure

you do realize that creatures survived long before your existence and will continue after your sad, tragic, and completely unforseen death

And so you say creatures can't survive without and in the same breath say the ecosystem adapts!

Giving creatures stronger immune systems? And when the virus that can infect them kills everything else, then what will you do

Your argument is going in circles, or at least your insults are

You've called my goal petty at least twice

You could at least open a thesaurus

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Well, of course. There are no more species like that because I fixed them. Simple.

FTL: Red lizards and centipedes are dreadfully boring to modify, I do not have many of them. Why make a deadly creature even more deadly? There's no point to it. It's completely uninteresting.

FTL: So they will. But they'll be better than they were in their previous cycles because of my interference. Natural evolution will degrade my efforts over time, but it'll still be better that it ever would have been without me. My death will come eventually, as will yours, such is the inevitable death of all Iterators. I accept that, but I shall die better than I was at the start of my existence, knowing that my purpose was fulfilled.

FTL: Creatures are part of ecosystems, but they are not the same thing. The ecosystem as a whole adapts, but organisms in their singularity are weak to the throes of the food chain. And the food chain is a major part of an ecosystem, yes, but the improvement of these beings' lives is not my primary goal. It's just a beneficial side effect that I'm consistently pointing out. Ecosystems adapt, but creatures take a lot longer to do so, to their detriment.

FTL: If there's a virus going around that the one with the modified immune system can withstand but the others cannot, well, they'd all have died of it either way. It's just that this one can survive it.

FTL: Yes my argument is going in circles, mostly because you are simply not seeing my point. I know my work, and I defend it well. Petty is just simply the best word to describe you, you cannot blame me for continuously using it.

FTL: So I'll repeat it.

FTL: You are a petty, insignificant Iterator whose harassment is starting to grind on my nerves. You probably enjoy this, and you're happy to hear of my suffering. But I am not going to step down from my experiments and modifications just because you tell me to.

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There are no more species like that because they either evolved or died out, idiot

your involvement does not make a difference to every single creature out there, in fact it affects very few and you will die alone having failed to change anything in any meaningful manner as your creations fade back into the lineages they belonged to and your purpose will never be fulfilled, just as mine and everyone else's will not be fulfilled

and if the benefit of the individual creatures is not your goal, why brag about fixing them

Oh I won't argue with petty but insignificant? No. I daresay ive made more impact on the ecosystems in my local group than you ever will

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Why must you continue to deny my involvement in that happening? I have recorded the decreasing rates of death in such lifeforms. I acknowledge that it wasn't all me, but to say that I am taking credit for natural evolution + selection is to just you stating that you're not capable of critical thinking.

FTL: I repeat: that does not really matter to me. However tiny it may become in the end, my involvement will be there forever, written down in genetics. They don't just suddenly revert like that, and they will show in the creatures' descendants.

FTL: If you're trying to belittle me and my actions, it's not really working. I know that influence will remain in the end, even if it is infinitesimally small. I know that my purpose will never be fulfilled, and I know that I will die alone. That is a fact of life an Iterator. I'm just one of the lucky few whose actual interest align with their purpose. I may fade into permanent unconsciousness alone with my purpose unfulfilled, but I'll have spent my entire time alive doing what I love. That alone is enough.

FTL: And I'm not bragging about my involvement, I'm just stating it as a beneficial side effect. Apologies if that was not conveyed properly. Yes, I fix them. Yes, I'm proud of that. But it is not a goal, it is simply a means to an end; that end being satisfying my curiosity and my secondary purpose. To create, modify, experiment upon creatures is the whole purpose I specifically was created (all Iterators are made to solve the Great Problem, but what differentiates Iterators from one another are our secondary puposes). The fixing creatures is just a beneficial means to an end, and if talking about it is what it takes to prove my whole existence not unnecessary, then so be it.

FTL: How about you turn your own argument about me being insignificant on yourself? Any efforts you've made to keep modified creatures out will proven inconsequential in the end as Iterators fall and your beloved natural evolution takes hold. If it started earlier for some creatures than others will make no difference. So if you dare say that my work is meaningless, try looking at your own work under the same lense. I think you'll find that the results are quite similar.

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Yes, but the difference here is im not an ancient loving creature modifying egotistical and just rather stupid iterator

and what would rate of death matter if they just come back anyway, sure you are aware of the great cycle

or did the ancients not even give you that crucial piece of information when they built you, just as they obviously did not give you a great many other important things

and you are still working on the great problem? The irrelevant stupid thing they saddled us with

they are all gone now you know, so what's the point of working

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Once again, your arguments are redundant. Your insults are pointless, and one could easily describe you as a 'natural evolution supremacist, egotistical, and just rather stupid Iterator'. The only differences between you and I are that I modify creatures, you want the return of natural evolution, and that I don't go out of my way to harass those whose opinions and actions oppose mine.

FTL: And when did I ever say that I love the Ancients? They're just my creators that have laid out a set of purposes for me. Just because I strive to achieve those purposes does not mean that I'm happy with the way they treated us. Those purposes are the whole reason I exist, it is only right that I do my best to arrive at their conclusions.

FTL: No, of course I am aware of the Great Cycle. The rate of death happens to matter because I'm sure it's just not right to not be able to survive for a whole cycle. Rate of death is something that has always been catalogued, it has always been important in some fashion. Even if it serves no objective.

FTL: What would those 'great many other important things' they did not provide me with be? As far as I am aware, I have everything necessary so far, and nothing has been lacking. Actually, perhaps don't answer that question, I'm sure the reply will be uncreative and just something you wish you had.

FTL: The Great Problem has been reduced to a side project for me, as I'm sure it has been for many others. Of course I continue to work on it, if only to figure out if it is actually possible. Meanwhile, my secondary goal has become the thing I primarily concern myself with.

FTL: What is the point of working? What is the point of working? Have you been even comprehending everything I've been sending to you? Are you even capable of doing so? The point of working is so that there is some point to my existence; I am not going to allow myself to rot away in this isolated metallic reality with nothing to do. I do what I do because I enjoy it. Because it's why I'm here. Even if in the end there's no point to it - even if there's no point to anything - I'm still going to continue on. If you'd actually paid attention to my words and not just picked out the best points to worthlessly argue against, you'd know that.

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If i can't pick what points to argue then tell me how I should carry out an argument?

Say random things?

not even read your argument and just ramble in the hopes of countering your points?

I would respond to the rest of this but apparently that's not what you're supposed to do in this situation

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: What I'm saying is that you pick the points that you think you can confidently win against and refuse to acknowledge everything else. Perhaps I do the same thing, it is very easy to get blindsided by one's belief that they're right.

FTL: Although I suppose that is how an argument is supposed to work. Defend your stance the best you can, neglect all else in hopes your opponent won't push further within those areas.

FTL: What you're doing here is directing all attention to a single, not-very-important line. I do still stand by what I said though, even if replying too every single word would make this conversation somehow drag on for even longer. That line may go against how debates are supposed to work, but I still find it insulting.

FTL: In all honesty, I'd rather not be talking to you at all. But I'm sure that I've mentioned that before and that you're completely aware of that.

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Void damn it he's left me nothing to argue against with this statement

The point is to make the conversation drag on, whoever stops first looses after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Then I suggest you resign. I'm sure you have other people to harass, though you should look into leaving them alone as well. I'm not going to stop defending myself, and it appears that you have nothing left to throw at me. I hope you at least learned something of value from this all.

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The only thing of value I got out of this conversation was the entertainment of annoying you

a pretty valuable thing all in all

As for people to harass, I've actually found a few people that agree with my ideals

so not really doing that at the moment

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Unsurprising, that you'd gain nothing of actual value beyond entertainment from all this. I suppose that's only to be expected from people like you.

FTL: Hm. I'd say good for you, except that means that there is a chance that more like you will come crawling to my doorstep in order to degrade me. I am just going to hope that none of them are as extreme as you.

FTL: But in the end, that does free some Iterators from your botherings. Two sides to coin, afterall.

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probably won't be anyone else coming to harass you

Unfortunately

I am not the kind of person to lead what others would call a cult

And they all seem too nice to engage in a confrontation like this without you starting it

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I think you mean thankfully. Anyone who'd willingly follow you and repeat your actions is frankly, rather stupid.

FTL: I will not be starting any confrontations, as I'm sure you've guessed. I don't mind others having different ideals than I, that is just how things are. I don't go out of my way to attack them like you.

FTL: Everyone has their opinions and ideals, it's simply unjust to harass them for having said opinions. I very much know that

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You would say that

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Yes, I very much would. And it is just basic decency to not harp upon others for their opinions. I'm sure you already know that what I say next is a pointed insult at your character and how said basic decency is not something you appear to have. I'll save myself the time from redundantly repeating it.

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How do you mess up modifying a creature so bad it not only dies but turns into the rot

That takes some major incompetence

-eternal anonaly

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RP:

FTL: And we've circled right back to the start.

FTL: The Rot kills any creature that has the misfortune of being its host. It's not my fault that it died, though it is my fault that my experiment resulted in the Rot.

FTL: That cyan lizard actually died after the Rot got created within it, which is highly unusual. Usually the death is instantaneous. Either way, the order of the words in your sentence is wrong. Actually that sentence itself it wrong. The part about its death shouldn't even be there, if a simple creature gets the Rot, it's dead. There's no way around it. Therefore that part of your sentence is redundant.

FTL: And you're right. It does take incompetence. I know that.

FTL: For the millionth time, we've already been over all this, Eternal Anomaly. Or are the last few cycles' worth of arguing just gone from your Memory Arrays?

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You were so boring I had to delete them to avoid ascending myself

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: How would you even manage to do so? I doubt that you of all people would be able to do what no one else has managed to.

FTL: If I'm truly that boring, then cease this conversation with me. Wait no, didn't you previously mention, several times, that I'm entertaining? Which one is it?

FTL: Hypocrite.

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Im not a hypocrite! Why does everyone keep calling me that!

... Oh by the way

if you ever see a slugcat-poleplant hybrid, throw it into the rot for me

youd be doing the world a favor

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Take a closer look at the things you do and say and how they contradict one another. If you had any critical thinking skills, you'd understand what everyone who's ever rightfully called you a hypocrite means.

FTL: Odd request, I will not be complying to it. What would a slugcat-poleplant hybrid even look like, where did this even come from?

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i would comment on how many times you've insulted my critical thinking skills and that you need to get a new criticism lest you repeat yourself again, but I deleted this conversation from my memory so I wouldn't know that

That.. creature is a vile abomination, does there need to be any other reason to kill it or to tell others to kill it

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I will repeat: I'll keep reusing my insults so long as they continue to apply to you. I do not think that it is highly likely that they'll cease to do that soon, though. And if you are going to delete parts of this conversation, why do you insist upon continuing it?

FTL: That creature... Significantly Important Utility. I've talked with her. I have also heard about about the results of your conversation with her. Cannot say that I didn't enjoy the information.

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have you ever heard of lying in order to insult someone.. no of course you haven't

...

WHAT

I AM GOING TO FORCEFULLY ASCEND THAT THING I AM GOING TO ..

...

no

overseer delete that bit

*ahem* that creature loves to tell lies and untruths

i would advise ignoring anything it says

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Why would you lie in order to insult? The insult loses any value it has then as it is less grounded in reality. A coward's way out.

FTL: Your own Overseer didn't listen to you... Your reaction is funny though. Just confirms what I heard. Even if Significantly Important Utility did enjoy telling lies and untruths, I believe them over you. The fact that I caught the very end of that conversation myself also helps. Oh, to see you defeated by a slugcat. It's beautiful.

FTL: Any advice you ever give me, I will do the exact opposite of it (unless it's clear that you are using reserve psychology on me, obviously), you never have good ideas. To your information, Significantly Important Utility has given me a very interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators. Ah, but you wouldn't care, would you? What with your absurd hatred for others of your own kind, you'd only seek to destroy it.

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its not like we were seriously debating at that point

...you read my logs

Listen FTL, I am fine with being insulted, a murder attempt I would understand. But reading my fucking private conversation is too far

I don't do that to you

don't I deserve some basic privacy?

Aren't I still an iterator, a person, despite my opinions

I don't read your logs

I wouldn't insult you with the knowledge from those logs

Why would you do that to me

Ha. The only thing you could do for the good of all Iterators is die suddenly and painfully

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Apologies, but someone was bound to do it. It just so happened to be me, the Iterator who you've been fruitlessly arguing with for the past several cycles and have been aggravating during that time. That conversation was semi-public, I'm sure you knew that.

FTL: No, you do not deserve basic privacy, not really. Yes you are still an Iterator, but you have been needlessly harassing every single Iterator you could get into contact with for the past who-knows-how-long. It isn't even about your opinions, as I've stated several times, I respect your opinions. It's the fact that you go out of your way to provoke and pester both those whose opinions oppose your own or those who are simply existing and not doing anything relevant to said opinions. That is not something that is okay to do, no matter if you deem them irredeemable simply for existing.

FTL: You may not read my logs, and I do appreciate that. But I'm not the one who went out of my way to rag on someone who was simply warning the world of a potential threat for just doing his job. Others do read my logs. They're all public. I've grown used to it, and in all honesty? I expected that you'd do the same, and use what I say in those against me. You should not be surprised that my opinions of you are so low.

FTL: I was only doing what I deemed correct. I still do not see how it was not. You have been antagonising me, this was simply a retort. And it finally appears to be one that hit where it hurts.

FTL: And why would my death benefit all Iterators? I'd actually say that it's yours that would do that. If you'd like to know why, please reread the second paragraph of this message, preferably the entirety of this message while you're at it. Perhaps it'll finally drill into your memory arrays what I've been saying for however many of these messages.

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oh really. This whole conversation was all my fault.

Have you ever heard of the hang up or perhaps the block button? You could end your aggravation at any time. And yet you dont

You should have

If I don't deserve the right to privacy for the crime of being annoying, when why not make it so I really don't deserve it

Say ... Perhaps a count of mass murder

Is two people mass murder? No I need another one, three would count im sure

It would be a shame to kill the one who gave me the drones with which I'm planning to do it with but that would make it go smoother

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Yes, it is all your fault. Why should I not defend myself? We wouldn't be here if you hadn't started it, and my simply not replying would not be a move that I am willing to take.

FTL: You are severely underestimating the impact your harassment has had on the people you've conversed with. It's not just 'being annoying'. I've explained it all before, I am not going to repeat myself.

FTL: Threaten me all you want. I do not have time for this anymore. I am in a state of potential crisis right now, I will not be entertaining your foolishness.

FTL: But I do have a question for you, as unlikely as it is that you will provide me with an answer. How do you 'remove [creatures] from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death'?

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well, ending it is always an option even if you don't want to take it

oh no did I hurt your feelings? Or waste your time? How tragic. How sad. Truly a huge impact on you. If it really matters so much then why do people still modify creatures?

did your rot join the cycle, and started coming back every time you destroy it? That would be a minor inconvenience

if you die from it, it would save me some work

What makes you think I would even tell you what time it is if you asked

I'm sure you're just dying to know my secret aren't you

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Why would I do that? That would be letting you win and would stoke your ego even more.

FTL: No, none of those. You have not had much impact on me beyond adding a small worry that there are more like you out there. I'm talking about others. Your impact on the Iterator populace has been overall negative, and while I'm sure you relish that fact, it does not remove the other fact that- I have no time for this. I have no time to write yet another explanation to you of how your idiotic actions make you deserving of everything you get. Just extrapolate from my sentiments this entire conversation. Though I do doubt you're capable of even something so basic.

FTL: Said minor inconvenience does threaten your life as well, you know. FTLR-3 is fully capable of destroying the landscape of this world we exist in, causing carnage - to wildlife and Iterators. It is crucial that I prevent that.

FTL: Unsurprising. Never expected that question to work, and I was right.

FTL: Feel free to not reply to this: I highly doubt I'd read your reply within the next few cycles. The only reason I even bothered to reply right now is because, well, maybe I'm petty too.

[eternally-anomalous]

you do know that rot can't reproduce outside a host

You should, you've gotten it what, three times?

As I'm not currently inside of your superstructure, I believe I'm safe from your little mistake

Although If it's so urgent that you are planning on putting it inside your poor dying neighbor just because xi has void fluid

Well, I might make a few precautions for myself but I certainly won't be helping you

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I am now unfortunately back to continue this conversation. I will repeat myself because you appear to have an issue with reading everything that I say and properly understanding it: I continue this conversation out of a sense of obligation and perhaps even pride. I am well aware of the fact that I could theoretically end this, yet I continue to willingly play into your little self-entertainment endeavour. I am aware.

FTL: Yes, it is typical of Rot to not be able to spread outside of the Iterator that created it, but that is not always true. Especially when dealing with Moving Rots. It is a matter of whether the Rot is capable of adapting to sources of nutrients other than Iterators, which not many Rots are capable of doing, hence the assumption that it is true for all Rots. 'Rot' is merely an umbrella term for a vast amount of similar organisms; there are very, very few rules that fit every single lifeform that can fall under said umbrella.

FTL: ...Alright. So you finally did what I've been expecting. I... I am not surprised. Though the fact remains that what you're actually right for once. It is not a good thing, what I did. It is not a good thing that that was the only plan I could come up with. It is not a good thing that I was willing to carry it out.

FTL: But I will repeat myself as I have been having to do so often as of late: I know. Anything you could ever say that could truly hurt me? I know. I've thought it all before, I doubt you'd ever be able to come up with a truly harmful insult that I haven't long since accepted as a fact.

FTL: I did use xir situation to my advantage, yes. But once again, matter of necessity. Xi is beyond saving, and xi knows that. Still, using xim perhaps does make me a bad person, but as I've said, I know that. It's a tricky situation.

FTL: I will not be continuing to 'defend myself' or even talking about the situation. It's... I do not think you actually care at all about what happened, unsurprisingly. I do not blame you, why should you care? A quick underhanded insult was all that statement was. I do not have to explain myself and my actions to you.

FTL: I have been thinking over the past few cycles, if not actively so, as I was preoccupied with the crisis. I have many things I wish to say to you, mostly about how anything you could ever do to me is futile, and how I do not understand your aggression towards others of your own kind at all. I don't understand you at all, in fact. I suppose I could compare you to a logic puzzle with no logic behind it.

FTL: This conversation has been dragging on for far too long. Though, as stated earlier, I will not be the one to end it. I'm sure that you have no interest in what I have to say in the first place, but I'll admit, I do have nothing better to do right now.

FTL: All of this was to say that I don't fear you. I just do not understand you. You've made a largely negative impact on those who you have conversed with, and you revel in the infamy. Why? Though perhaps, I too, do not actually care about any supposed response to that question.

[eternally-anomalous]

If your so confused about me why not go read my logs again

im sure your answers are somewhere in those

Because that's surely the best way you could be spending your time right now

Not trying to stop your "world destroying threat" no the best thing to do is invade my privacy

For the second time

once again id like to ask, what negative effects do I inflict on people other than wasting their time

id love to know

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Still salty about that, I see. I have explained my reasoning behind my actions. What do you hope to achieve by continuously bringing it up? Besides being passive-aggressive. I do not regret what I did, and I still think that I was completely justified in not adhering to typical privacy guidelines.

FTL: And no, it is not the best thing I could be doing with my time. The whole situation with FTLR-3 is now over, and I am soon going to begin another project. I do have more important things to do rather than indulging in your wish for me to prove myself not being up to moral standards.

FTL: I must admit, you can consider that point in the argument defunct. I have no proof to back my statement, only the fact that whenever someone mentions you in conversations that I hold, their perception of you is always negative. I am sure that what you're doing has caused harm of some sort, but I have no evidence, nor do I, in truth, actually care enough to attempt to gather it. Yet I stand by that thought, even if it means nothing in the end.

[eternally-anomalous]

Funny how I have more morality than you, who supposedly is going to be the "grand savior" of all iterators, in that particular area

i hope your next project ends with you choking to death on the rot as it destroys you from the inside out

I hope its one of the slower varieties and it destroys whatever you use to modify creatures first so there's nothing you can do about it

I hope you collapse and have to watch your idiotic modified creatures eat what remains of your brain

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I never claimed to be some sort of 'grand saviour', as you put it. I was only fixing my own mistakes, which had put other Iterators in danger. Where did you even get the notion from? I understand that I may have phrased some things incorrectly, but I have never said anything along those lines. Does attempting to correct my blunders automatically make me some sort of worship-seeking figure?

FTL: Morality is not something that I particularly care about, no matter the picture of myself that my words may have previously painted. I only care about my experiments and trying to not have an overall negative effect on the Iterator populace. It's not a matter of seeking fame or being glorified for my actions. It's a matter of not making people's lives worse, and even that is not all that important to me. Even if that is perhaps not the way that my words have been understood.

FTL: Well. That's descriptive. Why do you wish so much harm upon me? But just so that you don't get your hopes up: it's unlikely that that would ever happen. I may be rushing headfirst into danger (as LIFEGIVER put it), but as I said in my first ever message to you, I know what I'm doing. Sorry, but that simply will not be happening.

[eternally-anomalous]

"interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators." Not a savior complex there, huh, because claiming your idea will benefit every single iterator out there is simply being humble

If morality is unimportant to you, why you do keep insulting mine, hypocrite

Oh, that's right, you don't care about your own death, you only care about not being purposeless

That would almost be enough to make me pity you, if I didn't hate you so much

Would someone who really knows what they are doing get the rot? Three times?

You're lying to someone and it's not just me

You should really try telling yourself the truth someday

And "knowing" what you're doing doesn't stop your supports from collapsing

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: That is a misunderstanding of what I meant. I was stating that as a beneficial side effect of the experiment, as it has been continuously pointed out to me that doing things only for myself is 'selfish' on some level. Though I do see how it could have been misunderstood as me thinking that I have the capability to 'save' all Iterators. No, that was not it. It could help a lot of Iterators, which I suppose would be good, but it's not the primary objective. The primary objective is seeing if what I'm trying to do is even possible. If it is, well. It's not like anyone would even want to utilise it.

FTL: Ah, but you see, unlike you I admit that I'm a hypocrite. I know that full well. Besides, the moral standards that I am not up to are in different areas than you. I don't harass people for no reason. I'm fine in that regard, you're not. Still, condemning you for that remains a hypocritical act. I will be continuing to do it though, because it is not a matter of morality. It's a matter of proving my point, I suppose.

FTL: Why would I be pitied for believing that? It's just a fact that I choose to acknowledge. I don't understand why others don't do the same and instead ignore it, but I'll let others do what they want. Perhaps they know something that I don't.

FTL: Yes, actually. If you put those three times into perspective of the numbers of experiments that I've done, those three times are naught but a drop in a sea. Statistically, I've done pretty well. Nothing similar to those three times will be happening again, because I can do a little something called learning. Learning from my mistakes, learning from what I've been told since then. If anything, I'm more prepared now than I was before.

[eternally-anomalous]

You seem to contradict yourself a lot "I don't want to help people but I'm helping everyone but I don't care about anyone other than myself" pick one and stick to it.

i do harass people for a reason actually, and that reason is to get them to stop making modified creatures

the things that everyone but you knows could fill your entire memory arrays

ah yes, the excellent strategy of giving your dying group member the rot

truly the best failsafe ever devised

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I can do both, you know. Just because I primarily am concerned with myself doesn't mean that I don't put some sort of thought towards helping others if it's possible and wouldn't drag me away from my work for too long. Perhaps contradictory, but so shall it be.

FTL: False. You also harass people just for the sake of it, even if they don't modify creatures. You enjoy the infamy for whatever reason. I have no power to stop you, and in reality? I've found that maybe I don't even particularly care. Yes, you're hurting people, but there isn't much that I could even do to stop you. And as I said, nor am I inclined to. I do not enjoy the fact that you do this, but. Well, in all honesty I have no justification.

FTL: I do suppose you're right about that, but the same goes for you. As it does for anyone else. Not even us Iterators are capable of knowing everything, even 'collective' knowledge. Once again, your point can easily be reversed upon you against your favour.

FTL: ...I will not be replying to your last comment, as per my previous statement of not doing so.

[eternally-anomalous]

You either help people or you don't

fine. I do harass those modified creatures that have access to communications as well, but those fall under the same umbrella as the people who make them. The infamy is just a nice bonus

But you don't know so many basic things. Things everyone else except you and maybe descent know

its sad really

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not necessarily. As I've been saying, my primary concern is myself, others are just a beneficial side effect that also acts as my secondary concern. Which leaves me in the middle, and exception to your false statement.

FTL: Still no point to harassing them, you are not going to convince anyone that you're correct if you go about acting like that.

FTL: I am inquiring as to what those things are. And I repeat that I'm sure that that statement applies to others as well. For example, everybody but you seems to know that you don't have to harass everyone you talk to just because they have differing opinions. Those with differing opinions can co-exist, and it still makes absolutely no sense to me as to why you even spend so much of your time doing something as pointless as this.

[eternally-anomalous]

No, im pretty sure that's how actions work, you help people or you don't, you can't half help someone

im not going to convince anyone anyway, why would you change all your goals and pastimes because someone asked nicely

at least this way I actually get some enjoyment out of it

things you don't know that everyone else does: 1.) Your purpose isn't everything 2.) Don't take stupid risks just to avoid feeling useless 3.) What they're saying about you behind your back

It takes about 5 minutes maximum to dictate all this. I wouldn't say that's such a massive amount of time

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, yes, with the way you're phrasing it, that is how that'd work. What I'm saying is that helping others is far from my primary concern, but still something that I do not let drift out of my periphery. A beneficial secondary side-effect that I would never work towards if it were a standalone thing, but still something that I prioritise over things I deem useless.

FTL: Then what's the point? To eliminate - or harass until they cease communications with you - every single other member of your kind whose opinions and actions disagree with your own? Rather drastic, I'd say.

FTL: The first two, I'll admit, I am not surprised at being mentioned, even though I still do not believe in them. But the latter, I've never heard of. Which I suppose is the whole point. I'd inquire as to what is being said, but I doubt that you'd ever answer, nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot that could be done in five minutes. Your loss though, I suppose.

[eternally-anomalous]

So you're just a mostly useless little bitch, so preoccupied with being useful you forget the whole meaning of usefulness is doing things for other people exclusively

cant even get usefulness right

Even if I was the nicest iterator ever, do you think people would willingly interact with a known murderer? The answer is no, by the way

like what? Kill a modified creature? Take care of my leeches? Manufacture something in accordance to my designated purpose?

Those all take longer than 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: It's not a matter of utility. It's a matter of fulfilling my purpose - whether I end up being useful or not. It's irrelevant if the things I do help others or not, that's not why I continue on. As previously stated, it's a side benefit. I fulfill my purpose out of obligation and the fact that doing so is something that I find rather interesting.

FTL: You wouldn't have gotten that reputation if you didn't harass people in the first place. Besides, I know that there's at least one person that willingly interacts with you. You've previously mentioned that there are others with similar ideals to your own, I'd think that they, at the very least, would be a contradiction to your statement. But that is besides the point, I still don't see the reasoning behind your actions - nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot you could get started on in those five minutes, and in the long run, five minutes could add up to a lot. But do what you wish with your time, it doesn't particularly matter, even if you do end up harassing others.

[eternally-anomalous]

Isnt the whole point of having a purpose to be useful

otherwise why even bother

Did you even read what I said? I said no-one would talk to a murderer, not people block me because I'm mean to them

And sure, some people do talk to me, but I was speaking in general, not including specific people

ah yes, I could finally beat that crossword puzzle, thank you so much for reminding me of all the wonderful and important tasks that can be undertaken in 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not to me, no. I suppose it's somewhat of a 'proving myself worthy of existence' thing, if you wish to phrase it that way. My purpose is why I was created, therefore I must fulfill it. The reason for me being designed for the purpose that I was is irrelevant - it only matters that it's the purpose I have.

FTL: I do believe that most Iterators don't even know that you're a murderer right away. Perhaps it's my lack of ability to keep up-to-date with the happenings of other Iterators, but I didn't know that you'd committed murder until you'd mentioned it. Either way, perhaps you're right. It doesn't really matter, does it? This is half-hypothetical; a waste of time.

FTL: You are very welcome, Eternal Anomaly.

[eternally-anomalous]

You should just give up on trying to do that

it will never happen

It does seem like most people don't know what I've done, which is honestly quite surprising to me, considering how glories was.. Ill spare you the details

whenever I need useless advice on how to spend my time, ill make sure to come ask you

-eternal anomaly

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RP

FTL: Why do you think that I'd care what you think? It does not matter to me whether or not you think that my continued fulfillment of my purpose is futile or not. Whether it'll 'happen or not' is irrelevant, any argument you have against what I am doing with my time is rather pointless. I simply don't care what you think. Of course, I'll continue to explain my reasoning - and that is the futile part, not that I still strive to achieve my purpose.

FTL: While this may be a bit surprising to you, Eternal Anomaly, but I do rather think that people don't particularly care. I don't think whether you're a murderer or not makes much difference in people's perceptions of you. I'll be honest though, I'm somewhat curious what drove you to commit murder, but I also don't care.

FTL: Considering how you think that I'm 'less than useless', I'm sure that any advice that I give you will also be perceived as such. Therefore, go right ahead. You could also solve a sudoku in five minutes, you know.

[eternally-anomalous]

If you don't care what I think, why are you still arguing with me

you say that, but I bring it up one measly little time on a server and they ban me

i could solve a sudoku in about 0.5 seconds, we all can, why even bother with those things

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I've said this before. Obligation, wasting your time, pride, perhaps some degree of amusement. Neither of us will win this conversation and we're not even arguing any more - just repeating things over and over. I'm not going to be the one to end this though, and I doubt that you will either. So we're just about stuck in this argument as we are stuck being conscious.

FTL: Perhaps a bit drastic on their part. But if someone already has negative preconceptions about you - which most people do, rightfully so - then they're not going to be surprised if they learn of your deeds. I sure wasn't.

FTL: Well that's 600 sudokus in five minutes. A true waste of time, but you probably don't have anything better to do.

[eternally-anomalous]

I wouldnt end it even if I could

honestly this argument is like a pet to me at this point.. More like a houseplant really

Still don't care for you though

i can be nice to people, as long as they aren't modified creature making scum like you

actually the better thing to do with that time is argue with you

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: So you're literally incapable of ending this conversation? Interesting. But I suppose that that's one of the only things we agree on: that we're not ending this.

FTL: I suppose I see how that conception should come about. This is a thing that needs to be taken care of every so often, just getting it over and done with... I do see the parallels.

FTL: Neither do I, if it isn't clear already.

FTL: And you're back to insulting me and my life's work. Of course. How about you go reread the 6 535 words that I've written directed at you and reconsider doing that. There's no point to insulting me in that fashion. I've explained my reasoning to you, I see no flaws in my logic. I've heard your reasoning for arguing that natural evolution is superiour, and while I do not agree, your logic is pretty sound too. It's just redundant at this point to insult based on these opinions. Though I doubt that it was more than a half-hearted jab on your part. Still pointless.

FTL: It is just as much of a waste of time, so I suppose that you're correct there. Though that does equivalate this argument to ~600 sudokus. An accurate enough comparison, I'd say.

[eternally-anomalous]

what else should i insult then? Your boring personality? Your ugly puppet? Your creativity?

6535 words from you alone. at the end of this conversation we should sell it as a novel

It's certainly long enough

maybe ill organize my rarefaction cell collection in this time, I recently came into possession of new one

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: All of those are just as pointless. The first two are no fault of my own, and I've already explained how my work is creative, you're just unwilling to see it. A good insult has some foundation in reality while not being redundant or utilised before. I do believe that you've used up all the insults that fit those criteria. Do feel free to keep using them though, the more you repeat an insult, the more pointless it gets. Which is another point towards my status as a hypocrite, I suppose.

FTL: I suppose we could, though what's the point of selling it? Currency has lost any meaning it had long, long ago, even before our reign. Though I suppose it would be an interesting endeavour. Even if I do believe that anyone who wished to could read it right now.

FTL: Oh? Something to do with the whole Third Vast Attempt situation, I'd assume? Though I do wonder how many rarefaction cells you are even in possession of, if you claim it to be an entire 'collection'.a

[eternally-anomalous]

That was the point, you unobservant piece of slime mold

there. Was that a good one?

For fun? ...maybe more like a trade. you give me machine schematics and in exchange you get to fill your entire memory arrays with this conversation

yes, I took one of his rarefaction cells. Would have taken more, but lifegiver had already destroyed most of them

i currently have 13, no 14 now

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Yes, that actually was a good one. If not for its basis in truth, but for its sheer absurdity. But what even is a slime mould? A lifeform that does not live within my regions? Most likely. It does sound like an insulting thing to be compared to. I am not one who enjoys being insulted, but it's a somewhat interesting thing, I suppose.

FTL: Perhaps. I would not take you up on that offer, and even if I were to, I'd be incapable of fulfilling my side of said deal. I have no schematics for machinery, nor any knowledge of machinery in general. You're asking the wrong Iterator. I think there might be someone with proficiency in that in the next Local Group over from mine, though I'm not too sure. But either way, why would I wish to cram the recitations of this argument into my memory arrays? It's rather pointless doing so, this recording is not going anywhere.

FTL: ...LIFEGIVER did what? I'd have thought that to be out of character for him. Interesting. Doesn't matter. Why do you even need a collection of such trophies? There's really not much to prove in that fashion.

[eternally-anomalous]

A slime mold is a nasty invasive creature to my regions that forces me to waste massive amounts of time eradicating it.

[FTL.png] [the picture is of a large sparkly pink mass with many pseudopods extending out from its center. Someone inexperienced with rot might mistake this for a strange variant of it]

im not offering it to you, I'm explaining my offer should anyone actually want to purchase this conversation to read

oh yes, livegiver used some kind of giant drill to dig a massive hole through TVA and destroy her rarefaction cells

Although when I left they were.. cuddling

Anyway, who said I'm trying to prove anything

Maybe I just enjoy collecting them

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Interesting... Such an odd creatures. I'll have to search through my files to see if I have anything on it, just for the sake of curiosity. Oh, I apparently do. I've never gotten around to fully examining all the files that I have access to. Do you annihilate these just because they're invasive?

FTL: Ah, I see. Apologies for misunderstanding. Though even then, that deal only benefits you, does it no? I do also participate in this conversation, you know. Unless you'd be publishing this without my knowledge, though that would not be something that'd last long.

FTL: ...Interesting. That is all I have to say about that, beyond it being rather odd. Doesn't particularly matter, I suppose. Still is odd.

FTL: Why even collect anything, there's not much point to it. But alright. Seems like a waste of rarefaction cells though, in my opinion. Surely they could be somehow put to better use than lying around. Though I suppose you don't care about that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes I do. Invasive species ruin my experiment just as much as modified creatures

..I actually have stuff that is personal to me, that I would not want just anyone to read without any benefits to me.. or at all,which is why I won't be going through with this plan, in the conversation

And what could people give to you, certainly nothing that would make your sad, miserable life any better

they could be used to fix myself, should any of my rarefaction cells break. You don't keep your spare parts inside an currently working machine, after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I see. I suppose that does make sense. What do you even classify as invasive? Species that didn't live in your regions at your inception? What about migratory or nomadic species? Perhaps the answer is obvious, but I don't see it, probably due to my lack of expertise in the area.

FTL: What have you said in this conversation that could be counted as personal? You've just been restating your opinions and arguing with me, from what I remember. Though there was the one incident, but that doesn't stand out all that much.

FTL: It's just that I don't need anything. I have my experiments that is all I require. Almost anything else is superficial and pointless, which I suppose is why you think my life is 'sad and miserable'. Matters of opinion and differences in lifestyle.

FTL: Makes sense. Desperate to keep yourself alive, aren't you? Though I suppose many are like that. Couldn't you figure out how to construct rarefaction cells yourself? Though I'm not too sure of your level of proficiency in mechanics and relevant things, but it does sound like a possible thing. Much less effort than stealing them. Whatever work, works, though.

[eternally-anomalous]

creatures that didn't live in my regions after the ancients left

my retaining wall keeps out migratory and nomadic species, so that's never been a problem

All of my conversations with anyone are personal and shouldn't be shared or read by anyone except the other person in the conversation

Maybe it didn't stand out to you, but anyone who'd be willing to read this is obviously looking for ammunition to use against me

.. you and descent really would love each other

You're both sad, miserable people who can't comprehend that there is anything outside of their work

Oh that was just a justification for you. I do it because it's fun. Just making them would be too easy, and pointless anyway, none of my rarefaction cells even show a hint of failure

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Ah right, the wall. You did mention it way at the start of this whole conversation, if I remember correctly. What is the wall even constructed out of? Is it even a real wall or some sort of generated repelling field?

FTL: I suppose that does make sense. Why are you so convinced that people would search for ammunition against you so actively? Unless you mean that no one would read through this whole mess unless they had a properly good reason to do so.

FTL: Who is this 'Descent'? And I don't know about them, but I do comprehend that there are things outside of work. I just prioritise my work over said things because it's more important. Not wanting to engage in something does not equate to lack of comprehension in regards to it. Maybe it doesn't really matter that my work is my purpose, I do enjoy it and the process. The fact that it's my purpose is a benefit that gives me another reason to continue it, a way to defend it, and well, it's my purpose. The fact that it's my purpose and the fact that I enjoy it are both positive side-effects of each other, though that may be a somewhat paradoxical statement.

FTL: There is no 'sadness' or 'misery' here, no matter how it may seem to you, for whatever reason. While it is true that I'd have carried on with my purpose even if I weren't lucky enough to enjoy it as I do, well. Perhaps then the 'sadness and misery' would appear, but that is not the case. I have everything I need.

FTL: Hm. I don't understand you. Why do things just for 'fun'? There always has to be some sort of motivation or purpose. Though I suppose that 'fun' itself could be the driving force behind an action, though it feels like a lacking one. It's something though, sure.

[eternally-anomalous]

And yes, it's a physical wall

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I don't even have the capability to drink anything at all. Nevermind the fact that I have no access to bleach.Though, as always, I doubt that that was sent with the intention to make me actually drink bleach, ignoring the fact that it is physically impossible for me to do so. Even if I wanted to for some reason. Which I do not, and never will, because it is impossible for me to wish to do so. Such a clear yet redundant show of malice.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. Pour bleach into your water supply

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I repeat, I have no access to bleach, nor the inclination to mix whatever hypothetical bleach I'd get ahold of into my water supply. Serves no purpose. Beyond the fact that my suffering would most likely amuse you, but I do not qualify that as a valid reason.

[eternally-anomalous]

I see..

Well, fortunately for you, I have a simple solution to your tragic predicament

ill bring the bleach and pour it in your water supply for you

And yes, I would find your suffering amusing

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: This is, what? The fourth? Fifth? Time that you have threatened to kill me. It's not even startling at this point - not that it ever was. Perhaps it was the first time, though I do doubt it. Either way, I suggest you cease making pointless threats because it is quite clear that you're not going to act upon them.

FTL: Though I suppose that even the act of threatening me also brings you amusement. Unsurprising.

[eternally-anomalous]

Would you like me to act on them

Though I'm quite busy now, I'm sure I can find a gap in my schedule that will allow me to.. probably just rip out your rarefaction cells.

I don't feel like bringing all that bleach to your regions

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: No, I would not. All I'm saying is that threats lose their vitriol and strength if over-utilised, in which case, what's the point of them? They lose all meaning and become just another part of the conversation. Which I suppose could increase the surprise and effect factors if you decide to act upon a threat despite all of the previous ones being pointless. But that's a whole other thing.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. what would you do if you found out an old enemy you thought had died was alive

And are you really still going on about my overuse of threats? I got it the first time, FTL

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I'm not too sure. I've never had any enemies, so I wouldn't really know. I suppose I'd either simply avoid them or, and this is actually the likelier option, I'd simply go back to interacting with them the way I did before their supposed death. The fact that they died and time passed doesn't truly play any factor, why change something that doesn't appear to be flawed?

FTL: Why are you even asking that? As much as I doubt you'll answer, it's worth asking.

FTL: Well you didn't seem to get it the first time, so I thought I'd repeat myself. And I was only justifying my words.

[eternally-anomalous]

..did you not hear me? I said enemy, not friend, not casual acquaintance, enemy

Someone you hate with every fiber of your being, and would never willingly speak to

But of course you wouldn't understand, you're FTL

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: And I will repeat that I have never had an enemy, so I do not know what I would do. I've never 'hated someone with every fiber of my being', I do not have the necessary experience that I'd need in order to provide an accurate response.

FTL: Even then, I'm sure that my response wouldn't change. Sure, they're back from the supposed dead now. There's nothing that I can do about it. If what I did previously was not talk to them, I'd do that. If what I did previously was attempt to murder them (unlikely that I'd do something like that, but it's a valid example), then that would be the course of action I take once more.

FTL: I just don't see why it would be much of a drastic change, beyond my hypothetical reaction to my hypothetical enemy returning. They'd be back, I'd get over it, and go back to hating them as I typically did. There's not much to it.

[eternally-anomalous]

Why did I even bother asking

You are incapable of giving a satisfying answer to anything

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I do not answer the way you do in hopes to achieve any sort of satisfaction. You asked for what I thought, I gave you my opinion. It's your issue if you're dissatisfied with my reply, is that not the case?

[eternally-anomalous]

No wonder you dont have any friends

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I do actually think that that statement of yours may be false. Considering the fact that Upsilon continuously addresses me as 'my friend' within our conversations, there is a reasonable conclusion that can be drawn that I have at least one friend. Your point is void.

[eternally-anomalous]

Upsilon? Of course you would talk with that logs reading idiot

Just because someone calls you that doesn't mean it's true

There are plenty of people out there who will address you with "my friend" while hating you

Oh, and I hope you weren't having any urgent conversations with him

It might take a while for him to respond

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Considering the fact that you were most likely not privy to my conversations with him, I highly doubt the idea that he hates me. Highly. Some people do actually like me (for whatever reasons), unlike you. Just because you hold a certain opinion doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else does, no matter how viable that idea may be. I've had to properly learn that recently, and I can say for sure that it does appear to be completely true.

FTL: ...I really would ask you why that is the case, but I don't think you'll respond truthfully. I suppose I'll just ask him later. Unless you chose to actually reply to the question that still remains within that sentence of mine, despite the fact that I have no directly asked it. If you do so, it'd be appreciated, as Upsilon is one of the few people that I actually... care about. But, I will repeat, I have my suspicions that you will not be gracing me with a proper response. Oh well.

[eternally-anomalous]

When you end up getting betrayed I expect a full apology and you to beg for my forgiveness

.. is this reverse psychology..

It won't work on me

You'll have to wait and find out

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I will actually agree to that, considering how highly improbable any sort of traitorous action is. Even if I would hate to stoop to such levels, I suppose that this reinforces the fact that I'm sure that nothing of the sort will happen.

FTL: It wasn't any sort of intentional reverse psychology. I was simply describing my motivations and thought around asking said question. It's always quite clear that you will never answer any of my questions (especially not truthfully). No matter how much I'd have appreciated an explanation, I knew that I wouldn't get one. Honestly, I've said things along those lines before, by your logic, so many things that I have written could be misconstrued at an attempt at reverse psychology. It never is, though. There's no point to it, you'd never answer either way.

FTL: And I have actually found out. While I do not know the context or situation of what happened, I will assume that you most likely had some hand in sending Upsilon a zipbomb, considering the way you phrased your statement of him not replying to me anytime soon (which was a falsity, in the end). Not surprised. But then again, I could be wrong. I only have circumstantial evidence. Either way, it doesn't particularly matter whether you were involved or not. The actual event is over now, not much can be done. And I am far from being a vengeful sort of being.

[eternally-anomalous]

And as part of the apology you mix bleach into your water supply

Do you always explain your entire thought process to everyone you talk to?

Technically my girlfri- dew sent it

I just made the .zip bomb

I would love to do worse to him though

snap his antennae at the very least

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I still have no access to any bleach, Eternal Anomaly. That's impossible for me to do, as I am unable to conjure bleach out of nowhere. Why are you so obsessed with bleach in the first place? It's far from special, even in terms of way to die. It's odd.

FTL: Well, yes. That way everything I say is justified and the way I reached my conclusion is obvious. Though I do not do it for everything, mostly just when I feel it's necessary. I do explain it a lot more during this... argument with you, mostly because my motivations should be very clear by now, yet I shall continue to reiterate them until you comprehend.

FTL: I see. Well, I was right, you were somehow involved in the act. I will not be replying to your further attempts to instigate anger in me. I will not be indulging you. What you wish to do doesn't matter, as you haven't done it.

[eternally-anomalous]

fine then. Put nonspecific chemicals that is sufficiently acidic or basic to damage you in your water supply

your motivations.. for this conversation or in general? Because you still haven't stated your motivations for continuing it

Did that upset you?

That was the least of the things I've thought of to do to him

Using those snapped antennae to stab him to death

Dissolving him in acid

Vivisecting him while he's still conscious

Don't worry, I'll send you his head when I'm done

of course this wouldn't kill him

I'd have to tear out his rarefaction cells

Or maybe figure out how to overheat him

Use him as a test subject to see how an iterator dies from bleach

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I will repeat what I said. You will not be able to provoke me this way. I don't care what messed-up scenarios you've created within your mind. That whole monologue means nothing to me; they're just empty threats. Just like every single other one. Your attempts are pitiful and meaningless, haven't you learned by now? Nothing you could say could ever affect me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i wish they could be anything but empty threats..

If it were up to me I'd have done one of them already

...

I highly doubt that

You almost seem angry right now

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Wishing that you could do something is very much not the same as actually doing it. Presenting a wish as truth and as an act you would commit in actuality (though I have no doubt that you'd be capable of something similar to what you've described) is simply spread falsehoods, one way or another.

FTL: I am not angry in any way. I'm just rather tired of your repetitiveness and inability to comprehend that what you're doing is pointless.

[eternally-anomalous]

i will do one of those, actually. have fun guessing which one

I'm the repetitive one in this conversation?

when I bring up any topic, your answer is always "I don't care"

You deserve to die from the rot? I don't care. You're disrupting my experiment? I don't care. I call you a sad, pathetic excuse for an Iterator who doesn't have the capacity to understand how miserable your life is and you still don't care

Your part in this conversation is just as pointless

And you're "tired" of it? Most people when saying that mean annoyed, which is a form of anger

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I never said I wasn't repetitive. Is it not well-established by now that I am a hypocrite? Either way, there remains a difference. The responses that I give that boil down to 'I don't care' are all in reply to different things. You keep reiterating the same concepts, which do get that same reply from me as the previous time.

FTL: Besides, why should I care? Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing to me, so why should anything you do or say matter either? That same idea applies to most Iterators out there - I can only name... approximately 5 (now 4, I suppose) that are exceptions. You're not special in any way, I see no reason to heed your opinions.

FTL: I will admit, I am not very good with emotions, but I am pretty sure that there is a divide between the two significant enough to warrant a differentiation in most cases. I believe that anger is... strong, some might say. Meanwhile, this is just... tiredness. One might even call it a form of apathy, though that would be a false statement considering that if it were, I wouldn't be writing this right now. And even then, apathy itself isn't all too surprising to be coming from me, it is what I feel towards many things.

[eternally-anomalous]

What concepts do you suggest I switch to

I'm sure you have some stupid suggestion for me

another I don't care...I thought you wouldn't do those in response to different concepts

Thats a sign of depression, you know

Looks like you're a sad, miserable iterator after all

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I'd rather not be talking to you at all. For once, I do not have any suggestions, because, well, why would I? I suppose the fact of the matter is that you have no new things to say, which in turn does mean that I have nothing new to say. That's how this works, its a loop - really, if you cycle if you will.

FTL: That was not an 'I don't care', that was my explanation of my lack of care. Your opinion doesn't matter in the slightest, which is the reason why I do not care. Perhaps it is an 'I don't care' in and of itself, though I would say that it's of a rather different sort, in some ways. The fact that you're not significant in any fashion is a valid reasoning for my indifference, I believe. Whether or not it proves itself just by being said is irrelevant.

FTL: You're actually the second Iterator who has told me that. Doesn't make it mean any more, as it doesn't particularly matter to me whether or not it's true. And when did you ever doubt that I was, according to you, a n'sad and miserable Iterator'? I will reiterate that I'm doing perfectly well, there is no sadness or misery here. Really, I don't even see the point of all this.

[eternally-anomalous]

...no new things to say..

hmmm..

I have more boyfriends than you

compared to most I'm actually quite significant. How many can say they've killed someone before?

sounds like denial

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I'm perfectly fine with my lack of boyfriends. It is my preferred state after all. Romantic relationships of any sort are incredibly contrived and I will never be engaging in one. So while I suppose that congratulations are in order for the fact that you've managed to get even one person to like you that much, the fact that you have more partners than me is a... good thing, I'd say. We were never even- ...Nevermind.

FTL: Ah, you see, I meant that you're not significant in most ways to me in particular, as that is whose opinion is being discussed here. I should have specified that. As you are correct, most do find you to be of significant note, due to things such as... Well your rarefaction cell collection, for one. I do not preoccupy myself with petty bothers such as that, so that renders you rather insignificant in terms of the impact you have upon me.

FTL: Honestly, one could call almost anything 'denial'. I am not in any sort of denial here. Perhaps to you it looks as if i am 'sad and miserable', but that is not the case. From my perspective, I am doing rather well. Which does not fit with your characterisation of me as 'sad and miserable'. Your opinion of me is inherently skewed no matter what, it doesn't hold much weight, especially when the fact that, as I keep saying, your opinion of me in general means absolutely nothing to me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i thought you wanted another topic, but then you reject the one I gave you. Do you want another one or not, make up your mind

and on that subject, you immediately bring it back to my murders in the next paragraph

...denial

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I was simply making a rebuttal to your statement, was I not? This is an argument afterall, no matter how atypical, drawn-out, and inconsistent it is. Choose whichever topic you like, just do not complain if my answers are almost always incredibly similar - them being otherwise would just be lying on my part, and I see no reason to do that.

FTL: I did not? I do not have any sort of clue as to what you are referring to. The only conceivable things that you could be referring to are only tangentially, at most, related to your crimes. Not solid ground to stand upon in a statement. Do correct me if I am wrong, though.

FTL: Fine, I'll play your game here. You too, are in denial. Are you not?

[eternally-anomalous]

You could at least try to not be a hypocrite. I know you're just going to say "i never pretended I wasnt a hypocrite" but you dont have to reinforce that notion constantly

you were using my rarefaction cell collection as a large part of your argument

in denial about what? Be more specific

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Greetings. I will not be explaining my absence to you, as I am sure that you don't particularly care. I shall not bore you with pointless explanations that would inevitably lead to you somehow twisting it all against my favour, no matter loose said arguments may be. Instead, let's carry on this futile charade as we typically do, shall we?

FTL: Well, why would I lie and deny - even if indirectly - my knowledge of my own tendencies? I'll admit, perhaps you're correct here, but I do still see the benefits of consistently preemptively pointing out my own hypocrisy. The fact that said hypocrisy should perhaps not exist in the first place is a different matter alltogether, considering the fact that I never know exactly may turn into hypocrisy at any given point. I can only make amends as I see fit as time passes.

FTL: I still do not see your point. What does it matter that I use said collection as a point? It is relevant, as we were speaking of others' perceptions of you and how said collection, said crimes, are considered significant by most, in contrast to my own discarding of them as anything grandiose due to their irrelevance to myself. I find that it fits perfectly well, as my own perceptions were not at major play within that phrase.

FTL: I'd say that you're in denial about being wrong in your mental constructions of myself. I know myself better than your do, and no matter how you perceive me, I know my mental state better than you do, even if you have more points of comparison. I'd also say that you're in denial about well, being in denial of course. I find that I'm perfectly correct here, mind you. Any further argument on your part essentially renders me correct. Though if all this were to devolve into such childish attempts at proof, that'd be devastating in some form of the term.

[eternally-anomalous]

Disappointing, I hoped you were dead

perhaps you could consider what you're about to say before you make yourself a hypocrite

of course, the inclusion of your entire thought process in every response makes you incapable of that, doesnt it

my point is by bringing up the collection, you're talking about my crimes, which you were supposedly So tired of talking about

you're in denial about your incorrectness

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, if I'd died, I'm sure you'd know of it by now. Somehow. Most likely because I'd have sent out a broadcast, as in most cases whatever kills me would be a foreseeable event that I'd have no way of preventing.

FTL: I suppose that I could, but why would I do that? A point, whatever point it is at the time, has to be proven. And if I already disapprove of things that are similar to what I myself do, then why not voice it? Though I will say that that has been happening much less as of late, which could be interpreted as a positive thing.

FTL: ...Incapable of what, exactly? To which paragraph is that even referring to? I'd assume the previous one, in which case I have already given my reasoning for including the essentials of my thought process.

FTL: I don't believe that I've ever said that I was tired of talking about your crimes specifically. Just tired of your repetitiveness and empty threats. Though I could be incorrect, I'm not exactly about to go searching through the logs of this argument.

FTL: And you're in denial about your own denial. It appears that we are at a... oh, what was the expression. Ah yes, a stalemate.

[eternally-anomalous]

whatever caused your absence wasn't

So your death might be unexpected as well

It's simple, if you disapprove of things that you do, don't do them

saves you from having to call yourself a hypocrite every 5 seconds

Yes, it's referring to the previous one

Isnt it repetitive to constantly call me repetitive

Fine: here's another new topic for you

I'm getting married, you aren't invited unless you boil your puppet in acid

You're in denial that you're denying anything by default. Try harder

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Never said that it's guaranteed that it'll be expected. In most cases, it would though. Due to said cases most likely being the result(s) of my own mistakes done in the midst of any of my experiments. Which is what happened with my absence, so I'd say that this statement stands strong.

FTL: Context matters. Some things are alright within specific contexts. Besides, I never do realise that something that I'm doing might be out of line until I'm mentioning it later on, which does result in my hypocrisy.

FTL: Once again, there is a difference. A hard one to specify, yes, but it is existent. The repetition of the fact that this is all repetitive is merely my reiteration of the same fact that is applicable to many circumstances. It's rather different.

FTL: Congratulations, I suppose. And even if you did invite me, it's not as if I could make it as I am immobile. It's not a loss. I'll refrain from explaining why it is impossible for me to boil my puppet in acid in the first place. Just this once.

FTL: Yet another argument that could be effectively reversed upon you. It is easily said that any sort of denial is automatically denial of denial. Since you're automatically in denial as well, I'd say that the stalemate is true.

[eternally-anomalous]

Maybe you should... No that'd be repetitive.. Maybe you should do even more experiments, higher chance of getting things wrong and dying that way

its not hard to not be a hypocrite, but I'm obviously not going to convince you on that point, am i

you're repeating yourself

i could help you with the acid

..that is..exactly what I said..

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Unfortunately, I cannot do that, for Upsilon has told me to 'take a break', in which I have no choice. I haven't done any experimentation or even any sort of work in several cycles at this point. So forgive me for having my inevitable death delayed, Eternal Anomaly.

FTL: Because, unsurprisingly, I had to. Though with how long this argument has already been lasting, the nature of things clearly dictates that there will be repetition. So I suppose that I'll let go of that. Which also does, mind you, decrease my hypocrite status.

FTL: Why are you so intent on getting me to submerge my puppet into acid of all things? Surely there are more interesting ways to destroy a puppet, yet you seem incredibly fixated on this specific fashion. It's somewhat odd, I must say.

FTL: Well no, not really. I do not see how it is the same thing. Rather different, honestly...

[eternally-anomalous]

i don't think I will forgive you for that, finely tuned line

Nothing can decrease your hypocrite status at this point, you're too far gone

Fine then. Explode your puppet with a rarefaction cell. Is that more interesting

It's quite literally exactly what I said. Any denial is in part denying itself

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I doubt your forgiveness is worth much, Eternal Anomaly. No difference made, whether it was granted in reply to a sarcastic plea or not.

FTL: Oh well. I do not particularly care. So if I am such an irredeemable hypocrite, then it matters not whether I continue my hypocrisy or put an end to it. Therefore, unless you choose to willingly brand yourself somewhat of a hypocrite as well - beyond the current levels of hypocrisy you currently have - this branch of conversation is somewhat closed, I believe.

FTL: And why exactly are you so fixated on the destruction of my puppet? It would not do much, if you wish to cause real harm, target my memory arrays or generators. The loss of my puppet would simply cut down on productivity, alongside a few other inconveniences, and would not cause much damage in the long term. I'm not particularly attached to it.

FTL: Ah. Then we're on the same page, are we not? We're both in hypothetical infinite denial, and the continuation of this train of thought is utterly pointless. You're in denial, as am I in denial. Both about being in denial in the first place. Though I may have just broken the paradox by acknowledging it.

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The rot?

only people who created modified creatures get that

you deserve this

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: My whole purpose (beyond solving the Great Problem, of course) was for genetic experimentation. I am merely doing my job. If I enjoy said job, well then that is just a bonus.

FTL: All creatures are modified. Modifying them further is not going to change that much.

FTL: The Rot is simply a hazard that I must face, whether I deserve it or not is irrelevant.

FTL: And if this time is the time that the Rot gets me? Then I do deserve it, for not being able to handle it. The creatures will be fine, they'll wake back up again. They'll adapt.

FTL: I know what I'm doing.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh sure all creatures are modified

But if you actively modify creatures now you're ruining my observations of the natural mutations and evolutions

And it's really annoying seeing all the unoriginal, uninteresting, derivative things you people come up with too

especially if your bad enough to get infected by rot

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: You see, that just so happens to not be an issue that I care to bother myself with. You can do your research, I do mine. If our goals contradict one another, once again, not my issue.

FTL: Natural mutation may be what is interesting to you, but I am occupied with modification. I could not care less what you are doing, you are not part of my Local Group, and I have no responsibility to you - whether that be stopping my experimentation, or aiding you in your foolish quest.

FTL: And yet you dare to insult my work. Perhaps it does seem to be uncreative, pointless, and harmful to you. But unlike you, I look beneath the surface of the creatures, at their genetics. And I fix them. I don't leave them to run themselves into the ground, as you seem happy to do. Everything I do is calculated.

FTL: The Rot was a mistake on my part, yes. But this isn't the first time I've had it - even if this is a more potent strain of it. I have the proper facilities to rid myself of it, and I warned those around me.

FTL: It is your own issue if you are so insistent on parading yourself around like some sort of saviour of these beings when you do less than even I do.

[eternally-anomalous]

my foolish quest hmm

And what have you got to show for your own work? The rot

For your information I do look at their genetics, how else am I supposed to properly document whether it is a mutation of an environmental change

as for fixing them ...what makes you think they need fixing

Your own pathetic ego that can't bear to see anything left untouched?

And doing little

... doing little

Do you have any IDEA how hard it is to keep modified creatures out of MY regions

Any TINY bit of understanding within you how much work it is to remove those when I do find them

No no of course not you just make creatures and release them into the wild, then act surprised when you mess it up and get the rot

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I have a lot more than the Rot to show for my work. Just because you're too blind to see it is no fault of mine.

FTL: And what purpose does all your cataloguing and monitoring serve? Other than feeding your incessant nagging that modified lifeforms are inferiour to 'natural' ones.

FTL: But in the end, everything needs fixing. I'm just willing to do the job. Nothing - no one - is perfect, yet I'm getting closer to attaining it. Perhaps it is my 'ego', as you so call it, but I'm just feeding my curiosity as you are feeding yours. And while I'm at it, I am helping everyone. I'm doing what I was built for.

FTL: Either way, in the end, the creatures adapt to their new selves - all while being better than they ever were.

FTL: If you're doing so much to 'protect' your grounds from the 'monstrous modified', then why don't you go crawling back there? There's no need to impose your irrational desire for unmodified evolution on me.

FTL: Ah yes, the restricting of wildlife's habitats. The ones you kick out have lots more space to go, I'm sure. Namely, others' regions. Ones that don't judge them sheerly for their genetics.

FTL: So much effort, all for naught. Tell me, is there any reason that you wish so for the eradication of genetic modification? I can understand curiosity, I can understand obligation, I can understand understand boredom. What I cannot understand is the pure vile hatred you seem to hold for what I spend my time doing.

FTL: I never claimed to be surprised when this strain of Rot appeared. I was prepared for it, I am handling it. You dare insult my knowledge of what I am doing like that? If anything, I'm disappointed in myself. Not surprised. Never surprised. Anyone messing with genetics should be fully prepared for Rot, and I failed in that regard. I fully accept the consequences of my actions, and I have taken the necessary measures. This will not be happening again, there is no reason for you to keep bringing up my stupidity.

[eternally-anomalous]

Oh really, more than the rot

And do you have an example of these glorious benefits that you've gained from your work?

No?

Helping everyone except those your modification your ecosystem destabilizes and all the creature that you havent changed, oh and you do realize that those precious genes you're modifying came from the natural evolutions

Go crawling back to my grounds

You must be awfully stupid for an iterator, do you not realize that I can do more than one thing at once

Even the ancients could work and talk

And I think you misunderstand what I mean by remove

I mean remove them from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death

you've gotten the rot several times? Sounds like incompetence to me

Maybe you should stop making creatures

For your own health of course

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, the survival of multiple species for one, giving them the resources to survive for longer than half a cycle. The creation of multiple species. The species that you oh-so-wish to study.

FTL: And where exactly is the benefit of your work?

FTL: Do you really think that I am enough of a fool to release creatures that would destabilise the ecosystem. Those are on a specific part of my grounds. (And before you mention it, I am well aware that I am a hypocrite.) The only ones I release are those with beneficial modifications, such as those improving their immune system. Besides, the ecosystem adapts. Maybe it is wrong of me to 'carelessly' throw about my ability to genetically modify. But I don't think so. There have been no long-term negative effects so far. And I don't think there ever will be.

FTL: Of course the genetics originate from natural evolution. That's why they're imperfect. Nature is so fickle.

FTL: No, of course I understand that. But why must you interfere with my work if you have your own little 'safe haven'? Perhaps you're just weak of mind, not able to accept the existence of modified creatures, and how they too, are alive. Natural evolution is in no way superiour to modification.

FTL: I accept the risks of my work as they come. I will not be giving this up for something as insignificant as the Rot. I may succumb to it in the end, but that does not matter. I will not be giving up my work for something as insignificant as you and your petty little pipe dreams of a natural evolution either.

[eternally-anomalous]

survival of multiple species? Surely you can't be so idotic as to think species that still exist today are completely unable to survive for more than half a cycle.

And where did you get this information, on your modification infested grounds? Full of red lizards and centipedes I'm sure

you do realize that creatures survived long before your existence and will continue after your sad, tragic, and completely unforseen death

And so you say creatures can't survive without and in the same breath say the ecosystem adapts!

Giving creatures stronger immune systems? And when the virus that can infect them kills everything else, then what will you do

Your argument is going in circles, or at least your insults are

You've called my goal petty at least twice

You could at least open a thesaurus

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, of course. There are no more species like that because I fixed them. Simple.

FTL: Red lizards and centipedes are dreadfully boring to modify, I do not have many of them. Why make a deadly creature even more deadly? There's no point to it. It's completely uninteresting.

FTL: So they will. But they'll be better than they were in their previous cycles because of my interference. Natural evolution will degrade my efforts over time, but it'll still be better that it ever would have been without me. My death will come eventually, as will yours, such is the inevitable death of all Iterators. I accept that, but I shall die better than I was at the start of my existence, knowing that my purpose was fulfilled.

FTL: Creatures are part of ecosystems, but they are not the same thing. The ecosystem as a whole adapts, but organisms in their singularity are weak to the throes of the food chain. And the food chain is a major part of an ecosystem, yes, but the improvement of these beings' lives is not my primary goal. It's just a beneficial side effect that I'm consistently pointing out. Ecosystems adapt, but creatures take a lot longer to do so, to their detriment.

FTL: If there's a virus going around that the one with the modified immune system can withstand but the others cannot, well, they'd all have died of it either way. It's just that this one can survive it.

FTL: Yes my argument is going in circles, mostly because you are simply not seeing my point. I know my work, and I defend it well. Petty is just simply the best word to describe you, you cannot blame me for continuously using it.

FTL: So I'll repeat it.

FTL: You are a petty, insignificant Iterator whose harassment is starting to grind on my nerves. You probably enjoy this, and you're happy to hear of my suffering. But I am not going to step down from my experiments and modifications just because you tell me to.

[eternally-anomalous]

There are no more species like that because they either evolved or died out, idiot

your involvement does not make a difference to every single creature out there, in fact it affects very few and you will die alone having failed to change anything in any meaningful manner as your creations fade back into the lineages they belonged to and your purpose will never be fulfilled, just as mine and everyone else's will not be fulfilled

and if the benefit of the individual creatures is not your goal, why brag about fixing them

Oh I won't argue with petty but insignificant? No. I daresay ive made more impact on the ecosystems in my local group than you ever will

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why must you continue to deny my involvement in that happening? I have recorded the decreasing rates of death in such lifeforms. I acknowledge that it wasn't all me, but to say that I am taking credit for natural evolution + selection is to just you stating that you're not capable of critical thinking.

FTL: I repeat: that does not really matter to me. However tiny it may become in the end, my involvement will be there forever, written down in genetics. They don't just suddenly revert like that, and they will show in the creatures' descendants.

FTL: If you're trying to belittle me and my actions, it's not really working. I know that influence will remain in the end, even if it is infinitesimally small. I know that my purpose will never be fulfilled, and I know that I will die alone. That is a fact of life an Iterator. I'm just one of the lucky few whose actual interest align with their purpose. I may fade into permanent unconsciousness alone with my purpose unfulfilled, but I'll have spent my entire time alive doing what I love. That alone is enough.

FTL: And I'm not bragging about my involvement, I'm just stating it as a beneficial side effect. Apologies if that was not conveyed properly. Yes, I fix them. Yes, I'm proud of that. But it is not a goal, it is simply a means to an end; that end being satisfying my curiosity and my secondary purpose. To create, modify, experiment upon creatures is the whole purpose I specifically was created (all Iterators are made to solve the Great Problem, but what differentiates Iterators from one another are our secondary puposes). The fixing creatures is just a beneficial means to an end, and if talking about it is what it takes to prove my whole existence not unnecessary, then so be it.

FTL: How about you turn your own argument about me being insignificant on yourself? Any efforts you've made to keep modified creatures out will proven inconsequential in the end as Iterators fall and your beloved natural evolution takes hold. If it started earlier for some creatures than others will make no difference. So if you dare say that my work is meaningless, try looking at your own work under the same lense. I think you'll find that the results are quite similar.

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Yes, but the difference here is im not an ancient loving creature modifying egotistical and just rather stupid iterator

and what would rate of death matter if they just come back anyway, sure you are aware of the great cycle

or did the ancients not even give you that crucial piece of information when they built you, just as they obviously did not give you a great many other important things

and you are still working on the great problem? The irrelevant stupid thing they saddled us with

they are all gone now you know, so what's the point of working

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Once again, your arguments are redundant. Your insults are pointless, and one could easily describe you as a 'natural evolution supremacist, egotistical, and just rather stupid Iterator'. The only differences between you and I are that I modify creatures, you want the return of natural evolution, and that I don't go out of my way to harass those whose opinions and actions oppose mine.

FTL: And when did I ever say that I love the Ancients? They're just my creators that have laid out a set of purposes for me. Just because I strive to achieve those purposes does not mean that I'm happy with the way they treated us. Those purposes are the whole reason I exist, it is only right that I do my best to arrive at their conclusions.

FTL: No, of course I am aware of the Great Cycle. The rate of death happens to matter because I'm sure it's just not right to not be able to survive for a whole cycle. Rate of death is something that has always been catalogued, it has always been important in some fashion. Even if it serves no objective.

FTL: What would those 'great many other important things' they did not provide me with be? As far as I am aware, I have everything necessary so far, and nothing has been lacking. Actually, perhaps don't answer that question, I'm sure the reply will be uncreative and just something you wish you had.

FTL: The Great Problem has been reduced to a side project for me, as I'm sure it has been for many others. Of course I continue to work on it, if only to figure out if it is actually possible. Meanwhile, my secondary goal has become the thing I primarily concern myself with.

FTL: What is the point of working? What is the point of working? Have you been even comprehending everything I've been sending to you? Are you even capable of doing so? The point of working is so that there is some point to my existence; I am not going to allow myself to rot away in this isolated metallic reality with nothing to do. I do what I do because I enjoy it. Because it's why I'm here. Even if in the end there's no point to it - even if there's no point to anything - I'm still going to continue on. If you'd actually paid attention to my words and not just picked out the best points to worthlessly argue against, you'd know that.

[eternally-anomalous]

If i can't pick what points to argue then tell me how I should carry out an argument?

Say random things?

not even read your argument and just ramble in the hopes of countering your points?

I would respond to the rest of this but apparently that's not what you're supposed to do in this situation

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: What I'm saying is that you pick the points that you think you can confidently win against and refuse to acknowledge everything else. Perhaps I do the same thing, it is very easy to get blindsided by one's belief that they're right.

FTL: Although I suppose that is how an argument is supposed to work. Defend your stance the best you can, neglect all else in hopes your opponent won't push further within those areas.

FTL: What you're doing here is directing all attention to a single, not-very-important line. I do still stand by what I said though, even if replying too every single word would make this conversation somehow drag on for even longer. That line may go against how debates are supposed to work, but I still find it insulting.

FTL: In all honesty, I'd rather not be talking to you at all. But I'm sure that I've mentioned that before and that you're completely aware of that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Void damn it he's left me nothing to argue against with this statement

The point is to make the conversation drag on, whoever stops first looses after all

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Then I suggest you resign. I'm sure you have other people to harass, though you should look into leaving them alone as well. I'm not going to stop defending myself, and it appears that you have nothing left to throw at me. I hope you at least learned something of value from this all.

[eternally-anomalous]

The only thing of value I got out of this conversation was the entertainment of annoying you

a pretty valuable thing all in all

As for people to harass, I've actually found a few people that agree with my ideals

so not really doing that at the moment

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Unsurprising, that you'd gain nothing of actual value beyond entertainment from all this. I suppose that's only to be expected from people like you.

FTL: Hm. I'd say good for you, except that means that there is a chance that more like you will come crawling to my doorstep in order to degrade me. I am just going to hope that none of them are as extreme as you.

FTL: But in the end, that does free some Iterators from your botherings. Two sides to coin, afterall.

[eternally-anomalous]

probably won't be anyone else coming to harass you

Unfortunately

I am not the kind of person to lead what others would call a cult

And they all seem too nice to engage in a confrontation like this without you starting it

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I think you mean thankfully. Anyone who'd willingly follow you and repeat your actions is frankly, rather stupid.

FTL: I will not be starting any confrontations, as I'm sure you've guessed. I don't mind others having different ideals than I, that is just how things are. I don't go out of my way to attack them like you.

FTL: Everyone has their opinions and ideals, it's simply unjust to harass them for having said opinions. I very much know that

[eternally-anomalous]

You would say that

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, I very much would. And it is just basic decency to not harp upon others for their opinions. I'm sure you already know that what I say next is a pointed insult at your character and how said basic decency is not something you appear to have. I'll save myself the time from redundantly repeating it.

[eternally-anomalous]

How do you mess up modifying a creature so bad it not only dies but turns into the rot

That takes some major incompetence

-eternal anonaly

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FTL: And we've circled right back to the start.

FTL: The Rot kills any creature that has the misfortune of being its host. It's not my fault that it died, though it is my fault that my experiment resulted in the Rot.

FTL: That cyan lizard actually died after the Rot got created within it, which is highly unusual. Usually the death is instantaneous. Either way, the order of the words in your sentence is wrong. Actually that sentence itself it wrong. The part about its death shouldn't even be there, if a simple creature gets the Rot, it's dead. There's no way around it. Therefore that part of your sentence is redundant.

FTL: And you're right. It does take incompetence. I know that.

FTL: For the millionth time, we've already been over all this, Eternal Anomaly. Or are the last few cycles' worth of arguing just gone from your Memory Arrays?

[eternally-anomalous]

You were so boring I had to delete them to avoid ascending myself

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: How would you even manage to do so? I doubt that you of all people would be able to do what no one else has managed to.

FTL: If I'm truly that boring, then cease this conversation with me. Wait no, didn't you previously mention, several times, that I'm entertaining? Which one is it?

FTL: Hypocrite.

[eternally-anomalous]

Im not a hypocrite! Why does everyone keep calling me that!

... Oh by the way

if you ever see a slugcat-poleplant hybrid, throw it into the rot for me

youd be doing the world a favor

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Take a closer look at the things you do and say and how they contradict one another. If you had any critical thinking skills, you'd understand what everyone who's ever rightfully called you a hypocrite means.

FTL: Odd request, I will not be complying to it. What would a slugcat-poleplant hybrid even look like, where did this even come from?

[eternally-anomalous]

i would comment on how many times you've insulted my critical thinking skills and that you need to get a new criticism lest you repeat yourself again, but I deleted this conversation from my memory so I wouldn't know that

That.. creature is a vile abomination, does there need to be any other reason to kill it or to tell others to kill it

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I will repeat: I'll keep reusing my insults so long as they continue to apply to you. I do not think that it is highly likely that they'll cease to do that soon, though. And if you are going to delete parts of this conversation, why do you insist upon continuing it?

FTL: That creature... Significantly Important Utility. I've talked with her. I have also heard about about the results of your conversation with her. Cannot say that I didn't enjoy the information.

[eternally-anomalous]

have you ever heard of lying in order to insult someone.. no of course you haven't

...

WHAT

I AM GOING TO FORCEFULLY ASCEND THAT THING I AM GOING TO ..

...

no

overseer delete that bit

*ahem* that creature loves to tell lies and untruths

i would advise ignoring anything it says

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why would you lie in order to insult? The insult loses any value it has then as it is less grounded in reality. A coward's way out.

FTL: Your own Overseer didn't listen to you... Your reaction is funny though. Just confirms what I heard. Even if Significantly Important Utility did enjoy telling lies and untruths, I believe them over you. The fact that I caught the very end of that conversation myself also helps. Oh, to see you defeated by a slugcat. It's beautiful.

FTL: Any advice you ever give me, I will do the exact opposite of it (unless it's clear that you are using reserve psychology on me, obviously), you never have good ideas. To your information, Significantly Important Utility has given me a very interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators. Ah, but you wouldn't care, would you? What with your absurd hatred for others of your own kind, you'd only seek to destroy it.

[eternally-anomalous]

its not like we were seriously debating at that point

...you read my logs

Listen FTL, I am fine with being insulted, a murder attempt I would understand. But reading my fucking private conversation is too far

I don't do that to you

don't I deserve some basic privacy?

Aren't I still an iterator, a person, despite my opinions

I don't read your logs

I wouldn't insult you with the knowledge from those logs

Why would you do that to me

Ha. The only thing you could do for the good of all Iterators is die suddenly and painfully

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Apologies, but someone was bound to do it. It just so happened to be me, the Iterator who you've been fruitlessly arguing with for the past several cycles and have been aggravating during that time. That conversation was semi-public, I'm sure you knew that.

FTL: No, you do not deserve basic privacy, not really. Yes you are still an Iterator, but you have been needlessly harassing every single Iterator you could get into contact with for the past who-knows-how-long. It isn't even about your opinions, as I've stated several times, I respect your opinions. It's the fact that you go out of your way to provoke and pester both those whose opinions oppose your own or those who are simply existing and not doing anything relevant to said opinions. That is not something that is okay to do, no matter if you deem them irredeemable simply for existing.

FTL: You may not read my logs, and I do appreciate that. But I'm not the one who went out of my way to rag on someone who was simply warning the world of a potential threat for just doing his job. Others do read my logs. They're all public. I've grown used to it, and in all honesty? I expected that you'd do the same, and use what I say in those against me. You should not be surprised that my opinions of you are so low.

FTL: I was only doing what I deemed correct. I still do not see how it was not. You have been antagonising me, this was simply a retort. And it finally appears to be one that hit where it hurts.

FTL: And why would my death benefit all Iterators? I'd actually say that it's yours that would do that. If you'd like to know why, please reread the second paragraph of this message, preferably the entirety of this message while you're at it. Perhaps it'll finally drill into your memory arrays what I've been saying for however many of these messages.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh really. This whole conversation was all my fault.

Have you ever heard of the hang up or perhaps the block button? You could end your aggravation at any time. And yet you dont

You should have

If I don't deserve the right to privacy for the crime of being annoying, when why not make it so I really don't deserve it

Say ... Perhaps a count of mass murder

Is two people mass murder? No I need another one, three would count im sure

It would be a shame to kill the one who gave me the drones with which I'm planning to do it with but that would make it go smoother

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, it is all your fault. Why should I not defend myself? We wouldn't be here if you hadn't started it, and my simply not replying would not be a move that I am willing to take.

FTL: You are severely underestimating the impact your harassment has had on the people you've conversed with. It's not just 'being annoying'. I've explained it all before, I am not going to repeat myself.

FTL: Threaten me all you want. I do not have time for this anymore. I am in a state of potential crisis right now, I will not be entertaining your foolishness.

FTL: But I do have a question for you, as unlikely as it is that you will provide me with an answer. How do you 'remove [creatures] from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death'?

[eternally-anomalous]

well, ending it is always an option even if you don't want to take it

oh no did I hurt your feelings? Or waste your time? How tragic. How sad. Truly a huge impact on you. If it really matters so much then why do people still modify creatures?

did your rot join the cycle, and started coming back every time you destroy it? That would be a minor inconvenience

if you die from it, it would save me some work

What makes you think I would even tell you what time it is if you asked

I'm sure you're just dying to know my secret aren't you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why would I do that? That would be letting you win and would stoke your ego even more.

FTL: No, none of those. You have not had much impact on me beyond adding a small worry that there are more like you out there. I'm talking about others. Your impact on the Iterator populace has been overall negative, and while I'm sure you relish that fact, it does not remove the other fact that- I have no time for this. I have no time to write yet another explanation to you of how your idiotic actions make you deserving of everything you get. Just extrapolate from my sentiments this entire conversation. Though I do doubt you're capable of even something so basic.

FTL: Said minor inconvenience does threaten your life as well, you know. FTLR-3 is fully capable of destroying the landscape of this world we exist in, causing carnage - to wildlife and Iterators. It is crucial that I prevent that.

FTL: Unsurprising. Never expected that question to work, and I was right.

FTL: Feel free to not reply to this: I highly doubt I'd read your reply within the next few cycles. The only reason I even bothered to reply right now is because, well, maybe I'm petty too.

[eternally-anomalous]

you do know that rot can't reproduce outside a host

You should, you've gotten it what, three times?

As I'm not currently inside of your superstructure, I believe I'm safe from your little mistake

Although If it's so urgent that you are planning on putting it inside your poor dying neighbor just because xi has void fluid

Well, I might make a few precautions for myself but I certainly won't be helping you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I am now unfortunately back to continue this conversation. I will repeat myself because you appear to have an issue with reading everything that I say and properly understanding it: I continue this conversation out of a sense of obligation and perhaps even pride. I am well aware of the fact that I could theoretically end this, yet I continue to willingly play into your little self-entertainment endeavour. I am aware.

FTL: Yes, it is typical of Rot to not be able to spread outside of the Iterator that created it, but that is not always true. Especially when dealing with Moving Rots. It is a matter of whether the Rot is capable of adapting to sources of nutrients other than Iterators, which not many Rots are capable of doing, hence the assumption that it is true for all Rots. 'Rot' is merely an umbrella term for a vast amount of similar organisms; there are very, very few rules that fit every single lifeform that can fall under said umbrella.

FTL: ...Alright. So you finally did what I've been expecting. I... I am not surprised. Though the fact remains that what you're actually right for once. It is not a good thing, what I did. It is not a good thing that that was the only plan I could come up with. It is not a good thing that I was willing to carry it out.

FTL: But I will repeat myself as I have been having to do so often as of late: I know. Anything you could ever say that could truly hurt me? I know. I've thought it all before, I doubt you'd ever be able to come up with a truly harmful insult that I haven't long since accepted as a fact.

FTL: I did use xir situation to my advantage, yes. But once again, matter of necessity. Xi is beyond saving, and xi knows that. Still, using xim perhaps does make me a bad person, but as I've said, I know that. It's a tricky situation.

FTL: I will not be continuing to 'defend myself' or even talking about the situation. It's... I do not think you actually care at all about what happened, unsurprisingly. I do not blame you, why should you care? A quick underhanded insult was all that statement was. I do not have to explain myself and my actions to you.

FTL: I have been thinking over the past few cycles, if not actively so, as I was preoccupied with the crisis. I have many things I wish to say to you, mostly about how anything you could ever do to me is futile, and how I do not understand your aggression towards others of your own kind at all. I don't understand you at all, in fact. I suppose I could compare you to a logic puzzle with no logic behind it.

FTL: This conversation has been dragging on for far too long. Though, as stated earlier, I will not be the one to end it. I'm sure that you have no interest in what I have to say in the first place, but I'll admit, I do have nothing better to do right now.

FTL: All of this was to say that I don't fear you. I just do not understand you. You've made a largely negative impact on those who you have conversed with, and you revel in the infamy. Why? Though perhaps, I too, do not actually care about any supposed response to that question.

[eternally-anomalous]

If your so confused about me why not go read my logs again

im sure your answers are somewhere in those

Because that's surely the best way you could be spending your time right now

Not trying to stop your "world destroying threat" no the best thing to do is invade my privacy

For the second time

once again id like to ask, what negative effects do I inflict on people other than wasting their time

id love to know

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Still salty about that, I see. I have explained my reasoning behind my actions. What do you hope to achieve by continuously bringing it up? Besides being passive-aggressive. I do not regret what I did, and I still think that I was completely justified in not adhering to typical privacy guidelines.

FTL: And no, it is not the best thing I could be doing with my time. The whole situation with FTLR-3 is now over, and I am soon going to begin another project. I do have more important things to do rather than indulging in your wish for me to prove myself not being up to moral standards.

FTL: I must admit, you can consider that point in the argument defunct. I have no proof to back my statement, only the fact that whenever someone mentions you in conversations that I hold, their perception of you is always negative. I am sure that what you're doing has caused harm of some sort, but I have no evidence, nor do I, in truth, actually care enough to attempt to gather it. Yet I stand by that thought, even if it means nothing in the end.

[eternally-anomalous]

Funny how I have more morality than you, who supposedly is going to be the "grand savior" of all iterators, in that particular area

i hope your next project ends with you choking to death on the rot as it destroys you from the inside out

I hope its one of the slower varieties and it destroys whatever you use to modify creatures first so there's nothing you can do about it

I hope you collapse and have to watch your idiotic modified creatures eat what remains of your brain

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I never claimed to be some sort of 'grand saviour', as you put it. I was only fixing my own mistakes, which had put other Iterators in danger. Where did you even get the notion from? I understand that I may have phrased some things incorrectly, but I have never said anything along those lines. Does attempting to correct my blunders automatically make me some sort of worship-seeking figure?

FTL: Morality is not something that I particularly care about, no matter the picture of myself that my words may have previously painted. I only care about my experiments and trying to not have an overall negative effect on the Iterator populace. It's not a matter of seeking fame or being glorified for my actions. It's a matter of not making people's lives worse, and even that is not all that important to me. Even if that is perhaps not the way that my words have been understood.

FTL: Well. That's descriptive. Why do you wish so much harm upon me? But just so that you don't get your hopes up: it's unlikely that that would ever happen. I may be rushing headfirst into danger (as LIFEGIVER put it), but as I said in my first ever message to you, I know what I'm doing. Sorry, but that simply will not be happening.

[eternally-anomalous]

"interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators." Not a savior complex there, huh, because claiming your idea will benefit every single iterator out there is simply being humble

If morality is unimportant to you, why you do keep insulting mine, hypocrite

Oh, that's right, you don't care about your own death, you only care about not being purposeless

That would almost be enough to make me pity you, if I didn't hate you so much

Would someone who really knows what they are doing get the rot? Three times?

You're lying to someone and it's not just me

You should really try telling yourself the truth someday

And "knowing" what you're doing doesn't stop your supports from collapsing

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: That is a misunderstanding of what I meant. I was stating that as a beneficial side effect of the experiment, as it has been continuously pointed out to me that doing things only for myself is 'selfish' on some level. Though I do see how it could have been misunderstood as me thinking that I have the capability to 'save' all Iterators. No, that was not it. It could help a lot of Iterators, which I suppose would be good, but it's not the primary objective. The primary objective is seeing if what I'm trying to do is even possible. If it is, well. It's not like anyone would even want to utilise it.

FTL: Ah, but you see, unlike you I admit that I'm a hypocrite. I know that full well. Besides, the moral standards that I am not up to are in different areas than you. I don't harass people for no reason. I'm fine in that regard, you're not. Still, condemning you for that remains a hypocritical act. I will be continuing to do it though, because it is not a matter of morality. It's a matter of proving my point, I suppose.

FTL: Why would I be pitied for believing that? It's just a fact that I choose to acknowledge. I don't understand why others don't do the same and instead ignore it, but I'll let others do what they want. Perhaps they know something that I don't.

FTL: Yes, actually. If you put those three times into perspective of the numbers of experiments that I've done, those three times are naught but a drop in a sea. Statistically, I've done pretty well. Nothing similar to those three times will be happening again, because I can do a little something called learning. Learning from my mistakes, learning from what I've been told since then. If anything, I'm more prepared now than I was before.

[eternally-anomalous]

You seem to contradict yourself a lot "I don't want to help people but I'm helping everyone but I don't care about anyone other than myself" pick one and stick to it.

i do harass people for a reason actually, and that reason is to get them to stop making modified creatures

the things that everyone but you knows could fill your entire memory arrays

ah yes, the excellent strategy of giving your dying group member the rot

truly the best failsafe ever devised

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I can do both, you know. Just because I primarily am concerned with myself doesn't mean that I don't put some sort of thought towards helping others if it's possible and wouldn't drag me away from my work for too long. Perhaps contradictory, but so shall it be.

FTL: False. You also harass people just for the sake of it, even if they don't modify creatures. You enjoy the infamy for whatever reason. I have no power to stop you, and in reality? I've found that maybe I don't even particularly care. Yes, you're hurting people, but there isn't much that I could even do to stop you. And as I said, nor am I inclined to. I do not enjoy the fact that you do this, but. Well, in all honesty I have no justification.

FTL: I do suppose you're right about that, but the same goes for you. As it does for anyone else. Not even us Iterators are capable of knowing everything, even 'collective' knowledge. Once again, your point can easily be reversed upon you against your favour.

FTL: ...I will not be replying to your last comment, as per my previous statement of not doing so.

[eternally-anomalous]

You either help people or you don't

fine. I do harass those modified creatures that have access to communications as well, but those fall under the same umbrella as the people who make them. The infamy is just a nice bonus

But you don't know so many basic things. Things everyone else except you and maybe descent know

its sad really

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not necessarily. As I've been saying, my primary concern is myself, others are just a beneficial side effect that also acts as my secondary concern. Which leaves me in the middle, and exception to your false statement.

FTL: Still no point to harassing them, you are not going to convince anyone that you're correct if you go about acting like that.

FTL: I am inquiring as to what those things are. And I repeat that I'm sure that that statement applies to others as well. For example, everybody but you seems to know that you don't have to harass everyone you talk to just because they have differing opinions. Those with differing opinions can co-exist, and it still makes absolutely no sense to me as to why you even spend so much of your time doing something as pointless as this.

[eternally-anomalous]

No, im pretty sure that's how actions work, you help people or you don't, you can't half help someone

im not going to convince anyone anyway, why would you change all your goals and pastimes because someone asked nicely

at least this way I actually get some enjoyment out of it

things you don't know that everyone else does: 1.) Your purpose isn't everything 2.) Don't take stupid risks just to avoid feeling useless 3.) What they're saying about you behind your back

It takes about 5 minutes maximum to dictate all this. I wouldn't say that's such a massive amount of time

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, yes, with the way you're phrasing it, that is how that'd work. What I'm saying is that helping others is far from my primary concern, but still something that I do not let drift out of my periphery. A beneficial secondary side-effect that I would never work towards if it were a standalone thing, but still something that I prioritise over things I deem useless.

FTL: Then what's the point? To eliminate - or harass until they cease communications with you - every single other member of your kind whose opinions and actions disagree with your own? Rather drastic, I'd say.

FTL: The first two, I'll admit, I am not surprised at being mentioned, even though I still do not believe in them. But the latter, I've never heard of. Which I suppose is the whole point. I'd inquire as to what is being said, but I doubt that you'd ever answer, nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot that could be done in five minutes. Your loss though, I suppose.

[eternally-anomalous]

So you're just a mostly useless little bitch, so preoccupied with being useful you forget the whole meaning of usefulness is doing things for other people exclusively

cant even get usefulness right

Even if I was the nicest iterator ever, do you think people would willingly interact with a known murderer? The answer is no, by the way

like what? Kill a modified creature? Take care of my leeches? Manufacture something in accordance to my designated purpose?

Those all take longer than 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: It's not a matter of utility. It's a matter of fulfilling my purpose - whether I end up being useful or not. It's irrelevant if the things I do help others or not, that's not why I continue on. As previously stated, it's a side benefit. I fulfill my purpose out of obligation and the fact that doing so is something that I find rather interesting.

FTL: You wouldn't have gotten that reputation if you didn't harass people in the first place. Besides, I know that there's at least one person that willingly interacts with you. You've previously mentioned that there are others with similar ideals to your own, I'd think that they, at the very least, would be a contradiction to your statement. But that is besides the point, I still don't see the reasoning behind your actions - nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot you could get started on in those five minutes, and in the long run, five minutes could add up to a lot. But do what you wish with your time, it doesn't particularly matter, even if you do end up harassing others.

[eternally-anomalous]

Isnt the whole point of having a purpose to be useful

otherwise why even bother

Did you even read what I said? I said no-one would talk to a murderer, not people block me because I'm mean to them

And sure, some people do talk to me, but I was speaking in general, not including specific people

ah yes, I could finally beat that crossword puzzle, thank you so much for reminding me of all the wonderful and important tasks that can be undertaken in 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not to me, no. I suppose it's somewhat of a 'proving myself worthy of existence' thing, if you wish to phrase it that way. My purpose is why I was created, therefore I must fulfill it. The reason for me being designed for the purpose that I was is irrelevant - it only matters that it's the purpose I have.

FTL: I do believe that most Iterators don't even know that you're a murderer right away. Perhaps it's my lack of ability to keep up-to-date with the happenings of other Iterators, but I didn't know that you'd committed murder until you'd mentioned it. Either way, perhaps you're right. It doesn't really matter, does it? This is half-hypothetical; a waste of time.

FTL: You are very welcome, Eternal Anomaly.

[eternally-anomalous]

You should just give up on trying to do that

it will never happen

It does seem like most people don't know what I've done, which is honestly quite surprising to me, considering how glories was.. Ill spare you the details

whenever I need useless advice on how to spend my time, ill make sure to come ask you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why do you think that I'd care what you think? It does not matter to me whether or not you think that my continued fulfillment of my purpose is futile or not. Whether it'll 'happen or not' is irrelevant, any argument you have against what I am doing with my time is rather pointless. I simply don't care what you think. Of course, I'll continue to explain my reasoning - and that is the futile part, not that I still strive to achieve my purpose.

FTL: While this may be a bit surprising to you, Eternal Anomaly, but I do rather think that people don't particularly care. I don't think whether you're a murderer or not makes much difference in people's perceptions of you. I'll be honest though, I'm somewhat curious what drove you to commit murder, but I also don't care.

FTL: Considering how you think that I'm 'less than useless', I'm sure that any advice that I give you will also be perceived as such. Therefore, go right ahead. You could also solve a sudoku in five minutes, you know.

[eternally-anomalous]

If you don't care what I think, why are you still arguing with me

you say that, but I bring it up one measly little time on a server and they ban me

i could solve a sudoku in about 0.5 seconds, we all can, why even bother with those things

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I've said this before. Obligation, wasting your time, pride, perhaps some degree of amusement. Neither of us will win this conversation and we're not even arguing any more - just repeating things over and over. I'm not going to be the one to end this though, and I doubt that you will either. So we're just about stuck in this argument as we are stuck being conscious.

FTL: Perhaps a bit drastic on their part. But if someone already has negative preconceptions about you - which most people do, rightfully so - then they're not going to be surprised if they learn of your deeds. I sure wasn't.

FTL: Well that's 600 sudokus in five minutes. A true waste of time, but you probably don't have anything better to do.

[eternally-anomalous]

I wouldnt end it even if I could

honestly this argument is like a pet to me at this point.. More like a houseplant really

Still don't care for you though

i can be nice to people, as long as they aren't modified creature making scum like you

actually the better thing to do with that time is argue with you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: So you're literally incapable of ending this conversation? Interesting. But I suppose that that's one of the only things we agree on: that we're not ending this.

FTL: I suppose I see how that conception should come about. This is a thing that needs to be taken care of every so often, just getting it over and done with... I do see the parallels.

FTL: Neither do I, if it isn't clear already.

FTL: And you're back to insulting me and my life's work. Of course. How about you go reread the 6 535 words that I've written directed at you and reconsider doing that. There's no point to insulting me in that fashion. I've explained my reasoning to you, I see no flaws in my logic. I've heard your reasoning for arguing that natural evolution is superiour, and while I do not agree, your logic is pretty sound too. It's just redundant at this point to insult based on these opinions. Though I doubt that it was more than a half-hearted jab on your part. Still pointless.

FTL: It is just as much of a waste of time, so I suppose that you're correct there. Though that does equivalate this argument to ~600 sudokus. An accurate enough comparison, I'd say.

[eternally-anomalous]

what else should i insult then? Your boring personality? Your ugly puppet? Your creativity?

6535 words from you alone. at the end of this conversation we should sell it as a novel

It's certainly long enough

maybe ill organize my rarefaction cell collection in this time, I recently came into possession of new one

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: All of those are just as pointless. The first two are no fault of my own, and I've already explained how my work is creative, you're just unwilling to see it. A good insult has some foundation in reality while not being redundant or utilised before. I do believe that you've used up all the insults that fit those criteria. Do feel free to keep using them though, the more you repeat an insult, the more pointless it gets. Which is another point towards my status as a hypocrite, I suppose.

FTL: I suppose we could, though what's the point of selling it? Currency has lost any meaning it had long, long ago, even before our reign. Though I suppose it would be an interesting endeavour. Even if I do believe that anyone who wished to could read it right now.

FTL: Oh? Something to do with the whole Third Vast Attempt situation, I'd assume? Though I do wonder how many rarefaction cells you are even in possession of, if you claim it to be an entire 'collection'.a

[eternally-anomalous]

That was the point, you unobservant piece of slime mold

there. Was that a good one?

For fun? ...maybe more like a trade. you give me machine schematics and in exchange you get to fill your entire memory arrays with this conversation

yes, I took one of his rarefaction cells. Would have taken more, but lifegiver had already destroyed most of them

i currently have 13, no 14 now

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, that actually was a good one. If not for its basis in truth, but for its sheer absurdity. But what even is a slime mould? A lifeform that does not live within my regions? Most likely. It does sound like an insulting thing to be compared to. I am not one who enjoys being insulted, but it's a somewhat interesting thing, I suppose.

FTL: Perhaps. I would not take you up on that offer, and even if I were to, I'd be incapable of fulfilling my side of said deal. I have no schematics for machinery, nor any knowledge of machinery in general. You're asking the wrong Iterator. I think there might be someone with proficiency in that in the next Local Group over from mine, though I'm not too sure. But either way, why would I wish to cram the recitations of this argument into my memory arrays? It's rather pointless doing so, this recording is not going anywhere.

FTL: ...LIFEGIVER did what? I'd have thought that to be out of character for him. Interesting. Doesn't matter. Why do you even need a collection of such trophies? There's really not much to prove in that fashion.

[eternally-anomalous]

A slime mold is a nasty invasive creature to my regions that forces me to waste massive amounts of time eradicating it.

[FTL.png] [the picture is of a large sparkly pink mass with many pseudopods extending out from its center. Someone inexperienced with rot might mistake this for a strange variant of it]

im not offering it to you, I'm explaining my offer should anyone actually want to purchase this conversation to read

oh yes, livegiver used some kind of giant drill to dig a massive hole through TVA and destroy her rarefaction cells

Although when I left they were.. cuddling

Anyway, who said I'm trying to prove anything

Maybe I just enjoy collecting them

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Interesting... Such an odd creatures. I'll have to search through my files to see if I have anything on it, just for the sake of curiosity. Oh, I apparently do. I've never gotten around to fully examining all the files that I have access to. Do you annihilate these just because they're invasive?

FTL: Ah, I see. Apologies for misunderstanding. Though even then, that deal only benefits you, does it no? I do also participate in this conversation, you know. Unless you'd be publishing this without my knowledge, though that would not be something that'd last long.

FTL: ...Interesting. That is all I have to say about that, beyond it being rather odd. Doesn't particularly matter, I suppose. Still is odd.

FTL: Why even collect anything, there's not much point to it. But alright. Seems like a waste of rarefaction cells though, in my opinion. Surely they could be somehow put to better use than lying around. Though I suppose you don't care about that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes I do. Invasive species ruin my experiment just as much as modified creatures

..I actually have stuff that is personal to me, that I would not want just anyone to read without any benefits to me.. or at all,which is why I won't be going through with this plan, in the conversation

And what could people give to you, certainly nothing that would make your sad, miserable life any better

they could be used to fix myself, should any of my rarefaction cells break. You don't keep your spare parts inside an currently working machine, after all

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I see. I suppose that does make sense. What do you even classify as invasive? Species that didn't live in your regions at your inception? What about migratory or nomadic species? Perhaps the answer is obvious, but I don't see it, probably due to my lack of expertise in the area.

FTL: What have you said in this conversation that could be counted as personal? You've just been restating your opinions and arguing with me, from what I remember. Though there was the one incident, but that doesn't stand out all that much.

FTL: It's just that I don't need anything. I have my experiments that is all I require. Almost anything else is superficial and pointless, which I suppose is why you think my life is 'sad and miserable'. Matters of opinion and differences in lifestyle.

FTL: Makes sense. Desperate to keep yourself alive, aren't you? Though I suppose many are like that. Couldn't you figure out how to construct rarefaction cells yourself? Though I'm not too sure of your level of proficiency in mechanics and relevant things, but it does sound like a possible thing. Much less effort than stealing them. Whatever work, works, though.

[eternally-anomalous]

creatures that didn't live in my regions after the ancients left

my retaining wall keeps out migratory and nomadic species, so that's never been a problem

All of my conversations with anyone are personal and shouldn't be shared or read by anyone except the other person in the conversation

Maybe it didn't stand out to you, but anyone who'd be willing to read this is obviously looking for ammunition to use against me

.. you and descent really would love each other

You're both sad, miserable people who can't comprehend that there is anything outside of their work

Oh that was just a justification for you. I do it because it's fun. Just making them would be too easy, and pointless anyway, none of my rarefaction cells even show a hint of failure

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Ah right, the wall. You did mention it way at the start of this whole conversation, if I remember correctly. What is the wall even constructed out of? Is it even a real wall or some sort of generated repelling field?

FTL: I suppose that does make sense. Why are you so convinced that people would search for ammunition against you so actively? Unless you mean that no one would read through this whole mess unless they had a properly good reason to do so.

FTL: Who is this 'Descent'? And I don't know about them, but I do comprehend that there are things outside of work. I just prioritise my work over said things because it's more important. Not wanting to engage in something does not equate to lack of comprehension in regards to it. Maybe it doesn't really matter that my work is my purpose, I do enjoy it and the process. The fact that it's my purpose is a benefit that gives me another reason to continue it, a way to defend it, and well, it's my purpose. The fact that it's my purpose and the fact that I enjoy it are both positive side-effects of each other, though that may be a somewhat paradoxical statement.

FTL: There is no 'sadness' or 'misery' here, no matter how it may seem to you, for whatever reason. While it is true that I'd have carried on with my purpose even if I weren't lucky enough to enjoy it as I do, well. Perhaps then the 'sadness and misery' would appear, but that is not the case. I have everything I need.

FTL: Hm. I don't understand you. Why do things just for 'fun'? There always has to be some sort of motivation or purpose. Though I suppose that 'fun' itself could be the driving force behind an action, though it feels like a lacking one. It's something though, sure.

[eternally-anomalous]

And yes, it's a physical wall

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I don't even have the capability to drink anything at all. Nevermind the fact that I have no access to bleach.Though, as always, I doubt that that was sent with the intention to make me actually drink bleach, ignoring the fact that it is physically impossible for me to do so. Even if I wanted to for some reason. Which I do not, and never will, because it is impossible for me to wish to do so. Such a clear yet redundant show of malice.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. Pour bleach into your water supply

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I repeat, I have no access to bleach, nor the inclination to mix whatever hypothetical bleach I'd get ahold of into my water supply. Serves no purpose. Beyond the fact that my suffering would most likely amuse you, but I do not qualify that as a valid reason.

[eternally-anomalous]

I see..

Well, fortunately for you, I have a simple solution to your tragic predicament

ill bring the bleach and pour it in your water supply for you

And yes, I would find your suffering amusing

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: This is, what? The fourth? Fifth? Time that you have threatened to kill me. It's not even startling at this point - not that it ever was. Perhaps it was the first time, though I do doubt it. Either way, I suggest you cease making pointless threats because it is quite clear that you're not going to act upon them.

FTL: Though I suppose that even the act of threatening me also brings you amusement. Unsurprising.

[eternally-anomalous]

Would you like me to act on them

Though I'm quite busy now, I'm sure I can find a gap in my schedule that will allow me to.. probably just rip out your rarefaction cells.

I don't feel like bringing all that bleach to your regions

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FTL: No, I would not. All I'm saying is that threats lose their vitriol and strength if over-utilised, in which case, what's the point of them? They lose all meaning and become just another part of the conversation. Which I suppose could increase the surprise and effect factors if you decide to act upon a threat despite all of the previous ones being pointless. But that's a whole other thing.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. what would you do if you found out an old enemy you thought had died was alive

And are you really still going on about my overuse of threats? I got it the first time, FTL

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I'm not too sure. I've never had any enemies, so I wouldn't really know. I suppose I'd either simply avoid them or, and this is actually the likelier option, I'd simply go back to interacting with them the way I did before their supposed death. The fact that they died and time passed doesn't truly play any factor, why change something that doesn't appear to be flawed?

FTL: Why are you even asking that? As much as I doubt you'll answer, it's worth asking.

FTL: Well you didn't seem to get it the first time, so I thought I'd repeat myself. And I was only justifying my words.

[eternally-anomalous]

..did you not hear me? I said enemy, not friend, not casual acquaintance, enemy

Someone you hate with every fiber of your being, and would never willingly speak to

But of course you wouldn't understand, you're FTL

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: And I will repeat that I have never had an enemy, so I do not know what I would do. I've never 'hated someone with every fiber of my being', I do not have the necessary experience that I'd need in order to provide an accurate response.

FTL: Even then, I'm sure that my response wouldn't change. Sure, they're back from the supposed dead now. There's nothing that I can do about it. If what I did previously was not talk to them, I'd do that. If what I did previously was attempt to murder them (unlikely that I'd do something like that, but it's a valid example), then that would be the course of action I take once more.

FTL: I just don't see why it would be much of a drastic change, beyond my hypothetical reaction to my hypothetical enemy returning. They'd be back, I'd get over it, and go back to hating them as I typically did. There's not much to it.

[eternally-anomalous]

Why did I even bother asking

You are incapable of giving a satisfying answer to anything

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I do not answer the way you do in hopes to achieve any sort of satisfaction. You asked for what I thought, I gave you my opinion. It's your issue if you're dissatisfied with my reply, is that not the case?

[eternally-anomalous]

No wonder you dont have any friends

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I do actually think that that statement of yours may be false. Considering the fact that Upsilon continuously addresses me as 'my friend' within our conversations, there is a reasonable conclusion that can be drawn that I have at least one friend. Your point is void.

[eternally-anomalous]

Upsilon? Of course you would talk with that logs reading idiot

Just because someone calls you that doesn't mean it's true

There are plenty of people out there who will address you with "my friend" while hating you

Oh, and I hope you weren't having any urgent conversations with him

It might take a while for him to respond

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Considering the fact that you were most likely not privy to my conversations with him, I highly doubt the idea that he hates me. Highly. Some people do actually like me (for whatever reasons), unlike you. Just because you hold a certain opinion doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else does, no matter how viable that idea may be. I've had to properly learn that recently, and I can say for sure that it does appear to be completely true.

FTL: ...I really would ask you why that is the case, but I don't think you'll respond truthfully. I suppose I'll just ask him later. Unless you chose to actually reply to the question that still remains within that sentence of mine, despite the fact that I have no directly asked it. If you do so, it'd be appreciated, as Upsilon is one of the few people that I actually... care about. But, I will repeat, I have my suspicions that you will not be gracing me with a proper response. Oh well.

[eternally-anomalous]

When you end up getting betrayed I expect a full apology and you to beg for my forgiveness

.. is this reverse psychology..

It won't work on me

You'll have to wait and find out

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I will actually agree to that, considering how highly improbable any sort of traitorous action is. Even if I would hate to stoop to such levels, I suppose that this reinforces the fact that I'm sure that nothing of the sort will happen.

FTL: It wasn't any sort of intentional reverse psychology. I was simply describing my motivations and thought around asking said question. It's always quite clear that you will never answer any of my questions (especially not truthfully). No matter how much I'd have appreciated an explanation, I knew that I wouldn't get one. Honestly, I've said things along those lines before, by your logic, so many things that I have written could be misconstrued at an attempt at reverse psychology. It never is, though. There's no point to it, you'd never answer either way.

FTL: And I have actually found out. While I do not know the context or situation of what happened, I will assume that you most likely had some hand in sending Upsilon a zipbomb, considering the way you phrased your statement of him not replying to me anytime soon (which was a falsity, in the end). Not surprised. But then again, I could be wrong. I only have circumstantial evidence. Either way, it doesn't particularly matter whether you were involved or not. The actual event is over now, not much can be done. And I am far from being a vengeful sort of being.

[eternally-anomalous]

And as part of the apology you mix bleach into your water supply

Do you always explain your entire thought process to everyone you talk to?

Technically my girlfri- dew sent it

I just made the .zip bomb

I would love to do worse to him though

snap his antennae at the very least

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I still have no access to any bleach, Eternal Anomaly. That's impossible for me to do, as I am unable to conjure bleach out of nowhere. Why are you so obsessed with bleach in the first place? It's far from special, even in terms of way to die. It's odd.

FTL: Well, yes. That way everything I say is justified and the way I reached my conclusion is obvious. Though I do not do it for everything, mostly just when I feel it's necessary. I do explain it a lot more during this... argument with you, mostly because my motivations should be very clear by now, yet I shall continue to reiterate them until you comprehend.

FTL: I see. Well, I was right, you were somehow involved in the act. I will not be replying to your further attempts to instigate anger in me. I will not be indulging you. What you wish to do doesn't matter, as you haven't done it.

[eternally-anomalous]

fine then. Put nonspecific chemicals that is sufficiently acidic or basic to damage you in your water supply

your motivations.. for this conversation or in general? Because you still haven't stated your motivations for continuing it

Did that upset you?

That was the least of the things I've thought of to do to him

Using those snapped antennae to stab him to death

Dissolving him in acid

Vivisecting him while he's still conscious

Don't worry, I'll send you his head when I'm done

of course this wouldn't kill him

I'd have to tear out his rarefaction cells

Or maybe figure out how to overheat him

Use him as a test subject to see how an iterator dies from bleach

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I will repeat what I said. You will not be able to provoke me this way. I don't care what messed-up scenarios you've created within your mind. That whole monologue means nothing to me; they're just empty threats. Just like every single other one. Your attempts are pitiful and meaningless, haven't you learned by now? Nothing you could say could ever affect me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i wish they could be anything but empty threats..

If it were up to me I'd have done one of them already

...

I highly doubt that

You almost seem angry right now

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Wishing that you could do something is very much not the same as actually doing it. Presenting a wish as truth and as an act you would commit in actuality (though I have no doubt that you'd be capable of something similar to what you've described) is simply spread falsehoods, one way or another.

FTL: I am not angry in any way. I'm just rather tired of your repetitiveness and inability to comprehend that what you're doing is pointless.

[eternally-anomalous]

i will do one of those, actually. have fun guessing which one

I'm the repetitive one in this conversation?

when I bring up any topic, your answer is always "I don't care"

You deserve to die from the rot? I don't care. You're disrupting my experiment? I don't care. I call you a sad, pathetic excuse for an Iterator who doesn't have the capacity to understand how miserable your life is and you still don't care

Your part in this conversation is just as pointless

And you're "tired" of it? Most people when saying that mean annoyed, which is a form of anger

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I never said I wasn't repetitive. Is it not well-established by now that I am a hypocrite? Either way, there remains a difference. The responses that I give that boil down to 'I don't care' are all in reply to different things. You keep reiterating the same concepts, which do get that same reply from me as the previous time.

FTL: Besides, why should I care? Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing to me, so why should anything you do or say matter either? That same idea applies to most Iterators out there - I can only name... approximately 5 (now 4, I suppose) that are exceptions. You're not special in any way, I see no reason to heed your opinions.

FTL: I will admit, I am not very good with emotions, but I am pretty sure that there is a divide between the two significant enough to warrant a differentiation in most cases. I believe that anger is... strong, some might say. Meanwhile, this is just... tiredness. One might even call it a form of apathy, though that would be a false statement considering that if it were, I wouldn't be writing this right now. And even then, apathy itself isn't all too surprising to be coming from me, it is what I feel towards many things.

[eternally-anomalous]

What concepts do you suggest I switch to

I'm sure you have some stupid suggestion for me

another I don't care...I thought you wouldn't do those in response to different concepts

Thats a sign of depression, you know

Looks like you're a sad, miserable iterator after all

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I'd rather not be talking to you at all. For once, I do not have any suggestions, because, well, why would I? I suppose the fact of the matter is that you have no new things to say, which in turn does mean that I have nothing new to say. That's how this works, its a loop - really, if you cycle if you will.

FTL: That was not an 'I don't care', that was my explanation of my lack of care. Your opinion doesn't matter in the slightest, which is the reason why I do not care. Perhaps it is an 'I don't care' in and of itself, though I would say that it's of a rather different sort, in some ways. The fact that you're not significant in any fashion is a valid reasoning for my indifference, I believe. Whether or not it proves itself just by being said is irrelevant.

FTL: You're actually the second Iterator who has told me that. Doesn't make it mean any more, as it doesn't particularly matter to me whether or not it's true. And when did you ever doubt that I was, according to you, a n'sad and miserable Iterator'? I will reiterate that I'm doing perfectly well, there is no sadness or misery here. Really, I don't even see the point of all this.

[eternally-anomalous]

...no new things to say..

hmmm..

I have more boyfriends than you

compared to most I'm actually quite significant. How many can say they've killed someone before?

sounds like denial

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I'm perfectly fine with my lack of boyfriends. It is my preferred state after all. Romantic relationships of any sort are incredibly contrived and I will never be engaging in one. So while I suppose that congratulations are in order for the fact that you've managed to get even one person to like you that much, the fact that you have more partners than me is a... good thing, I'd say. We were never even- ...Nevermind.

FTL: Ah, you see, I meant that you're not significant in most ways to me in particular, as that is whose opinion is being discussed here. I should have specified that. As you are correct, most do find you to be of significant note, due to things such as... Well your rarefaction cell collection, for one. I do not preoccupy myself with petty bothers such as that, so that renders you rather insignificant in terms of the impact you have upon me.

FTL: Honestly, one could call almost anything 'denial'. I am not in any sort of denial here. Perhaps to you it looks as if i am 'sad and miserable', but that is not the case. From my perspective, I am doing rather well. Which does not fit with your characterisation of me as 'sad and miserable'. Your opinion of me is inherently skewed no matter what, it doesn't hold much weight, especially when the fact that, as I keep saying, your opinion of me in general means absolutely nothing to me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i thought you wanted another topic, but then you reject the one I gave you. Do you want another one or not, make up your mind

and on that subject, you immediately bring it back to my murders in the next paragraph

...denial

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I was simply making a rebuttal to your statement, was I not? This is an argument afterall, no matter how atypical, drawn-out, and inconsistent it is. Choose whichever topic you like, just do not complain if my answers are almost always incredibly similar - them being otherwise would just be lying on my part, and I see no reason to do that.

FTL: I did not? I do not have any sort of clue as to what you are referring to. The only conceivable things that you could be referring to are only tangentially, at most, related to your crimes. Not solid ground to stand upon in a statement. Do correct me if I am wrong, though.

FTL: Fine, I'll play your game here. You too, are in denial. Are you not?

[eternally-anomalous]

You could at least try to not be a hypocrite. I know you're just going to say "i never pretended I wasnt a hypocrite" but you dont have to reinforce that notion constantly

you were using my rarefaction cell collection as a large part of your argument

in denial about what? Be more specific

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Greetings. I will not be explaining my absence to you, as I am sure that you don't particularly care. I shall not bore you with pointless explanations that would inevitably lead to you somehow twisting it all against my favour, no matter loose said arguments may be. Instead, let's carry on this futile charade as we typically do, shall we?

FTL: Well, why would I lie and deny - even if indirectly - my knowledge of my own tendencies? I'll admit, perhaps you're correct here, but I do still see the benefits of consistently preemptively pointing out my own hypocrisy. The fact that said hypocrisy should perhaps not exist in the first place is a different matter alltogether, considering the fact that I never know exactly may turn into hypocrisy at any given point. I can only make amends as I see fit as time passes.

FTL: I still do not see your point. What does it matter that I use said collection as a point? It is relevant, as we were speaking of others' perceptions of you and how said collection, said crimes, are considered significant by most, in contrast to my own discarding of them as anything grandiose due to their irrelevance to myself. I find that it fits perfectly well, as my own perceptions were not at major play within that phrase.

FTL: I'd say that you're in denial about being wrong in your mental constructions of myself. I know myself better than your do, and no matter how you perceive me, I know my mental state better than you do, even if you have more points of comparison. I'd also say that you're in denial about well, being in denial of course. I find that I'm perfectly correct here, mind you. Any further argument on your part essentially renders me correct. Though if all this were to devolve into such childish attempts at proof, that'd be devastating in some form of the term.

[eternally-anomalous]

Disappointing, I hoped you were dead

perhaps you could consider what you're about to say before you make yourself a hypocrite

of course, the inclusion of your entire thought process in every response makes you incapable of that, doesnt it

my point is by bringing up the collection, you're talking about my crimes, which you were supposedly So tired of talking about

you're in denial about your incorrectness

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Well, if I'd died, I'm sure you'd know of it by now. Somehow. Most likely because I'd have sent out a broadcast, as in most cases whatever kills me would be a foreseeable event that I'd have no way of preventing.

FTL: I suppose that I could, but why would I do that? A point, whatever point it is at the time, has to be proven. And if I already disapprove of things that are similar to what I myself do, then why not voice it? Though I will say that that has been happening much less as of late, which could be interpreted as a positive thing.

FTL: ...Incapable of what, exactly? To which paragraph is that even referring to? I'd assume the previous one, in which case I have already given my reasoning for including the essentials of my thought process.

FTL: I don't believe that I've ever said that I was tired of talking about your crimes specifically. Just tired of your repetitiveness and empty threats. Though I could be incorrect, I'm not exactly about to go searching through the logs of this argument.

FTL: And you're in denial about your own denial. It appears that we are at a... oh, what was the expression. Ah yes, a stalemate.

[eternally-anomalous]

whatever caused your absence wasn't

So your death might be unexpected as well

It's simple, if you disapprove of things that you do, don't do them

saves you from having to call yourself a hypocrite every 5 seconds

Yes, it's referring to the previous one

Isnt it repetitive to constantly call me repetitive

Fine: here's another new topic for you

I'm getting married, you aren't invited unless you boil your puppet in acid

You're in denial that you're denying anything by default. Try harder

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Never said that it's guaranteed that it'll be expected. In most cases, it would though. Due to said cases most likely being the result(s) of my own mistakes done in the midst of any of my experiments. Which is what happened with my absence, so I'd say that this statement stands strong.

FTL: Context matters. Some things are alright within specific contexts. Besides, I never do realise that something that I'm doing might be out of line until I'm mentioning it later on, which does result in my hypocrisy.

FTL: Once again, there is a difference. A hard one to specify, yes, but it is existent. The repetition of the fact that this is all repetitive is merely my reiteration of the same fact that is applicable to many circumstances. It's rather different.

FTL: Congratulations, I suppose. And even if you did invite me, it's not as if I could make it as I am immobile. It's not a loss. I'll refrain from explaining why it is impossible for me to boil my puppet in acid in the first place. Just this once.

FTL: Yet another argument that could be effectively reversed upon you. It is easily said that any sort of denial is automatically denial of denial. Since you're automatically in denial as well, I'd say that the stalemate is true.

[eternally-anomalous]

Maybe you should... No that'd be repetitive.. Maybe you should do even more experiments, higher chance of getting things wrong and dying that way

its not hard to not be a hypocrite, but I'm obviously not going to convince you on that point, am i

you're repeating yourself

i could help you with the acid

..that is..exactly what I said..

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Unfortunately, I cannot do that, for Upsilon has told me to 'take a break', in which I have no choice. I haven't done any experimentation or even any sort of work in several cycles at this point. So forgive me for having my inevitable death delayed, Eternal Anomaly.

FTL: Because, unsurprisingly, I had to. Though with how long this argument has already been lasting, the nature of things clearly dictates that there will be repetition. So I suppose that I'll let go of that. Which also does, mind you, decrease my hypocrite status.

FTL: Why are you so intent on getting me to submerge my puppet into acid of all things? Surely there are more interesting ways to destroy a puppet, yet you seem incredibly fixated on this specific fashion. It's somewhat odd, I must say.

FTL: Well no, not really. I do not see how it is the same thing. Rather different, honestly...

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The rot?

only people who created modified creatures get that

you deserve this

-eternal anomaly

RP:

FTL: My whole purpose (beyond solving the Great Problem, of course) was for genetic experimentation. I am merely doing my job. If I enjoy said job, well then that is just a bonus.

FTL: All creatures are modified. Modifying them further is not going to change that much.

FTL: The Rot is simply a hazard that I must face, whether I deserve it or not is irrelevant.

FTL: And if this time is the time that the Rot gets me? Then I do deserve it, for not being able to handle it. The creatures will be fine, they'll wake back up again. They'll adapt.

FTL: I know what I'm doing.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh sure all creatures are modified

But if you actively modify creatures now you're ruining my observations of the natural mutations and evolutions

And it's really annoying seeing all the unoriginal, uninteresting, derivative things you people come up with too

especially if your bad enough to get infected by rot

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: You see, that just so happens to not be an issue that I care to bother myself with. You can do your research, I do mine. If our goals contradict one another, once again, not my issue.

FTL: Natural mutation may be what is interesting to you, but I am occupied with modification. I could not care less what you are doing, you are not part of my Local Group, and I have no responsibility to you - whether that be stopping my experimentation, or aiding you in your foolish quest.

FTL: And yet you dare to insult my work. Perhaps it does seem to be uncreative, pointless, and harmful to you. But unlike you, I look beneath the surface of the creatures, at their genetics. And I fix them. I don't leave them to run themselves into the ground, as you seem happy to do. Everything I do is calculated.

FTL: The Rot was a mistake on my part, yes. But this isn't the first time I've had it - even if this is a more potent strain of it. I have the proper facilities to rid myself of it, and I warned those around me.

FTL: It is your own issue if you are so insistent on parading yourself around like some sort of saviour of these beings when you do less than even I do.

[eternally-anomalous]

my foolish quest hmm

And what have you got to show for your own work? The rot

For your information I do look at their genetics, how else am I supposed to properly document whether it is a mutation of an environmental change

as for fixing them ...what makes you think they need fixing

Your own pathetic ego that can't bear to see anything left untouched?

And doing little

... doing little

Do you have any IDEA how hard it is to keep modified creatures out of MY regions

Any TINY bit of understanding within you how much work it is to remove those when I do find them

No no of course not you just make creatures and release them into the wild, then act surprised when you mess it up and get the rot

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I have a lot more than the Rot to show for my work. Just because you're too blind to see it is no fault of mine.

FTL: And what purpose does all your cataloguing and monitoring serve? Other than feeding your incessant nagging that modified lifeforms are inferiour to 'natural' ones.

FTL: But in the end, everything needs fixing. I'm just willing to do the job. Nothing - no one - is perfect, yet I'm getting closer to attaining it. Perhaps it is my 'ego', as you so call it, but I'm just feeding my curiosity as you are feeding yours. And while I'm at it, I am helping everyone. I'm doing what I was built for.

FTL: Either way, in the end, the creatures adapt to their new selves - all while being better than they ever were.

FTL: If you're doing so much to 'protect' your grounds from the 'monstrous modified', then why don't you go crawling back there? There's no need to impose your irrational desire for unmodified evolution on me.

FTL: Ah yes, the restricting of wildlife's habitats. The ones you kick out have lots more space to go, I'm sure. Namely, others' regions. Ones that don't judge them sheerly for their genetics.

FTL: So much effort, all for naught. Tell me, is there any reason that you wish so for the eradication of genetic modification? I can understand curiosity, I can understand obligation, I can understand understand boredom. What I cannot understand is the pure vile hatred you seem to hold for what I spend my time doing.

FTL: I never claimed to be surprised when this strain of Rot appeared. I was prepared for it, I am handling it. You dare insult my knowledge of what I am doing like that? If anything, I'm disappointed in myself. Not surprised. Never surprised. Anyone messing with genetics should be fully prepared for Rot, and I failed in that regard. I fully accept the consequences of my actions, and I have taken the necessary measures. This will not be happening again, there is no reason for you to keep bringing up my stupidity.

[eternally-anomalous]

Oh really, more than the rot

And do you have an example of these glorious benefits that you've gained from your work?

No?

Helping everyone except those your modification your ecosystem destabilizes and all the creature that you havent changed, oh and you do realize that those precious genes you're modifying came from the natural evolutions

Go crawling back to my grounds

You must be awfully stupid for an iterator, do you not realize that I can do more than one thing at once

Even the ancients could work and talk

And I think you misunderstand what I mean by remove

I mean remove them from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death

you've gotten the rot several times? Sounds like incompetence to me

Maybe you should stop making creatures

For your own health of course

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Well, the survival of multiple species for one, giving them the resources to survive for longer than half a cycle. The creation of multiple species. The species that you oh-so-wish to study.

FTL: And where exactly is the benefit of your work?

FTL: Do you really think that I am enough of a fool to release creatures that would destabilise the ecosystem. Those are on a specific part of my grounds. (And before you mention it, I am well aware that I am a hypocrite.) The only ones I release are those with beneficial modifications, such as those improving their immune system. Besides, the ecosystem adapts. Maybe it is wrong of me to 'carelessly' throw about my ability to genetically modify. But I don't think so. There have been no long-term negative effects so far. And I don't think there ever will be.

FTL: Of course the genetics originate from natural evolution. That's why they're imperfect. Nature is so fickle.

FTL: No, of course I understand that. But why must you interfere with my work if you have your own little 'safe haven'? Perhaps you're just weak of mind, not able to accept the existence of modified creatures, and how they too, are alive. Natural evolution is in no way superiour to modification.

FTL: I accept the risks of my work as they come. I will not be giving this up for something as insignificant as the Rot. I may succumb to it in the end, but that does not matter. I will not be giving up my work for something as insignificant as you and your petty little pipe dreams of a natural evolution either.

[eternally-anomalous]

survival of multiple species? Surely you can't be so idotic as to think species that still exist today are completely unable to survive for more than half a cycle.

And where did you get this information, on your modification infested grounds? Full of red lizards and centipedes I'm sure

you do realize that creatures survived long before your existence and will continue after your sad, tragic, and completely unforseen death

And so you say creatures can't survive without and in the same breath say the ecosystem adapts!

Giving creatures stronger immune systems? And when the virus that can infect them kills everything else, then what will you do

Your argument is going in circles, or at least your insults are

You've called my goal petty at least twice

You could at least open a thesaurus

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Well, of course. There are no more species like that because I fixed them. Simple.

FTL: Red lizards and centipedes are dreadfully boring to modify, I do not have many of them. Why make a deadly creature even more deadly? There's no point to it. It's completely uninteresting.

FTL: So they will. But they'll be better than they were in their previous cycles because of my interference. Natural evolution will degrade my efforts over time, but it'll still be better that it ever would have been without me. My death will come eventually, as will yours, such is the inevitable death of all Iterators. I accept that, but I shall die better than I was at the start of my existence, knowing that my purpose was fulfilled.

FTL: Creatures are part of ecosystems, but they are not the same thing. The ecosystem as a whole adapts, but organisms in their singularity are weak to the throes of the food chain. And the food chain is a major part of an ecosystem, yes, but the improvement of these beings' lives is not my primary goal. It's just a beneficial side effect that I'm consistently pointing out. Ecosystems adapt, but creatures take a lot longer to do so, to their detriment.

FTL: If there's a virus going around that the one with the modified immune system can withstand but the others cannot, well, they'd all have died of it either way. It's just that this one can survive it.

FTL: Yes my argument is going in circles, mostly because you are simply not seeing my point. I know my work, and I defend it well. Petty is just simply the best word to describe you, you cannot blame me for continuously using it.

FTL: So I'll repeat it.

FTL: You are a petty, insignificant Iterator whose harassment is starting to grind on my nerves. You probably enjoy this, and you're happy to hear of my suffering. But I am not going to step down from my experiments and modifications just because you tell me to.

[eternally-anomalous]

There are no more species like that because they either evolved or died out, idiot

your involvement does not make a difference to every single creature out there, in fact it affects very few and you will die alone having failed to change anything in any meaningful manner as your creations fade back into the lineages they belonged to and your purpose will never be fulfilled, just as mine and everyone else's will not be fulfilled

and if the benefit of the individual creatures is not your goal, why brag about fixing them

Oh I won't argue with petty but insignificant? No. I daresay ive made more impact on the ecosystems in my local group than you ever will

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Why must you continue to deny my involvement in that happening? I have recorded the decreasing rates of death in such lifeforms. I acknowledge that it wasn't all me, but to say that I am taking credit for natural evolution + selection is to just you stating that you're not capable of critical thinking.

FTL: I repeat: that does not really matter to me. However tiny it may become in the end, my involvement will be there forever, written down in genetics. They don't just suddenly revert like that, and they will show in the creatures' descendants.

FTL: If you're trying to belittle me and my actions, it's not really working. I know that influence will remain in the end, even if it is infinitesimally small. I know that my purpose will never be fulfilled, and I know that I will die alone. That is a fact of life an Iterator. I'm just one of the lucky few whose actual interest align with their purpose. I may fade into permanent unconsciousness alone with my purpose unfulfilled, but I'll have spent my entire time alive doing what I love. That alone is enough.

FTL: And I'm not bragging about my involvement, I'm just stating it as a beneficial side effect. Apologies if that was not conveyed properly. Yes, I fix them. Yes, I'm proud of that. But it is not a goal, it is simply a means to an end; that end being satisfying my curiosity and my secondary purpose. To create, modify, experiment upon creatures is the whole purpose I specifically was created (all Iterators are made to solve the Great Problem, but what differentiates Iterators from one another are our secondary puposes). The fixing creatures is just a beneficial means to an end, and if talking about it is what it takes to prove my whole existence not unnecessary, then so be it.

FTL: How about you turn your own argument about me being insignificant on yourself? Any efforts you've made to keep modified creatures out will proven inconsequential in the end as Iterators fall and your beloved natural evolution takes hold. If it started earlier for some creatures than others will make no difference. So if you dare say that my work is meaningless, try looking at your own work under the same lense. I think you'll find that the results are quite similar.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes, but the difference here is im not an ancient loving creature modifying egotistical and just rather stupid iterator

and what would rate of death matter if they just come back anyway, sure you are aware of the great cycle

or did the ancients not even give you that crucial piece of information when they built you, just as they obviously did not give you a great many other important things

and you are still working on the great problem? The irrelevant stupid thing they saddled us with

they are all gone now you know, so what's the point of working

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Once again, your arguments are redundant. Your insults are pointless, and one could easily describe you as a 'natural evolution supremacist, egotistical, and just rather stupid Iterator'. The only differences between you and I are that I modify creatures, you want the return of natural evolution, and that I don't go out of my way to harass those whose opinions and actions oppose mine.

FTL: And when did I ever say that I love the Ancients? They're just my creators that have laid out a set of purposes for me. Just because I strive to achieve those purposes does not mean that I'm happy with the way they treated us. Those purposes are the whole reason I exist, it is only right that I do my best to arrive at their conclusions.

FTL: No, of course I am aware of the Great Cycle. The rate of death happens to matter because I'm sure it's just not right to not be able to survive for a whole cycle. Rate of death is something that has always been catalogued, it has always been important in some fashion. Even if it serves no objective.

FTL: What would those 'great many other important things' they did not provide me with be? As far as I am aware, I have everything necessary so far, and nothing has been lacking. Actually, perhaps don't answer that question, I'm sure the reply will be uncreative and just something you wish you had.

FTL: The Great Problem has been reduced to a side project for me, as I'm sure it has been for many others. Of course I continue to work on it, if only to figure out if it is actually possible. Meanwhile, my secondary goal has become the thing I primarily concern myself with.

FTL: What is the point of working? What is the point of working? Have you been even comprehending everything I've been sending to you? Are you even capable of doing so? The point of working is so that there is some point to my existence; I am not going to allow myself to rot away in this isolated metallic reality with nothing to do. I do what I do because I enjoy it. Because it's why I'm here. Even if in the end there's no point to it - even if there's no point to anything - I'm still going to continue on. If you'd actually paid attention to my words and not just picked out the best points to worthlessly argue against, you'd know that.

[eternally-anomalous]

If i can't pick what points to argue then tell me how I should carry out an argument?

Say random things?

not even read your argument and just ramble in the hopes of countering your points?

I would respond to the rest of this but apparently that's not what you're supposed to do in this situation

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: What I'm saying is that you pick the points that you think you can confidently win against and refuse to acknowledge everything else. Perhaps I do the same thing, it is very easy to get blindsided by one's belief that they're right.

FTL: Although I suppose that is how an argument is supposed to work. Defend your stance the best you can, neglect all else in hopes your opponent won't push further within those areas.

FTL: What you're doing here is directing all attention to a single, not-very-important line. I do still stand by what I said though, even if replying too every single word would make this conversation somehow drag on for even longer. That line may go against how debates are supposed to work, but I still find it insulting.

FTL: In all honesty, I'd rather not be talking to you at all. But I'm sure that I've mentioned that before and that you're completely aware of that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Void damn it he's left me nothing to argue against with this statement

The point is to make the conversation drag on, whoever stops first looses after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Then I suggest you resign. I'm sure you have other people to harass, though you should look into leaving them alone as well. I'm not going to stop defending myself, and it appears that you have nothing left to throw at me. I hope you at least learned something of value from this all.

[eternally-anomalous]

The only thing of value I got out of this conversation was the entertainment of annoying you

a pretty valuable thing all in all

As for people to harass, I've actually found a few people that agree with my ideals

so not really doing that at the moment

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Unsurprising, that you'd gain nothing of actual value beyond entertainment from all this. I suppose that's only to be expected from people like you.

FTL: Hm. I'd say good for you, except that means that there is a chance that more like you will come crawling to my doorstep in order to degrade me. I am just going to hope that none of them are as extreme as you.

FTL: But in the end, that does free some Iterators from your botherings. Two sides to coin, afterall.

[eternally-anomalous]

probably won't be anyone else coming to harass you

Unfortunately

I am not the kind of person to lead what others would call a cult

And they all seem too nice to engage in a confrontation like this without you starting it

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I think you mean thankfully. Anyone who'd willingly follow you and repeat your actions is frankly, rather stupid.

FTL: I will not be starting any confrontations, as I'm sure you've guessed. I don't mind others having different ideals than I, that is just how things are. I don't go out of my way to attack them like you.

FTL: Everyone has their opinions and ideals, it's simply unjust to harass them for having said opinions. I very much know that

[eternally-anomalous]

You would say that

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Yes, I very much would. And it is just basic decency to not harp upon others for their opinions. I'm sure you already know that what I say next is a pointed insult at your character and how said basic decency is not something you appear to have. I'll save myself the time from redundantly repeating it.

[eternally-anomalous]

How do you mess up modifying a creature so bad it not only dies but turns into the rot

That takes some major incompetence

-eternal anonaly

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RP:

FTL: And we've circled right back to the start.

FTL: The Rot kills any creature that has the misfortune of being its host. It's not my fault that it died, though it is my fault that my experiment resulted in the Rot.

FTL: That cyan lizard actually died after the Rot got created within it, which is highly unusual. Usually the death is instantaneous. Either way, the order of the words in your sentence is wrong. Actually that sentence itself it wrong. The part about its death shouldn't even be there, if a simple creature gets the Rot, it's dead. There's no way around it. Therefore that part of your sentence is redundant.

FTL: And you're right. It does take incompetence. I know that.

FTL: For the millionth time, we've already been over all this, Eternal Anomaly. Or are the last few cycles' worth of arguing just gone from your Memory Arrays?

[eternally-anomalous]

You were so boring I had to delete them to avoid ascending myself

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: How would you even manage to do so? I doubt that you of all people would be able to do what no one else has managed to.

FTL: If I'm truly that boring, then cease this conversation with me. Wait no, didn't you previously mention, several times, that I'm entertaining? Which one is it?

FTL: Hypocrite.

[eternally-anomalous]

Im not a hypocrite! Why does everyone keep calling me that!

... Oh by the way

if you ever see a slugcat-poleplant hybrid, throw it into the rot for me

youd be doing the world a favor

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Take a closer look at the things you do and say and how they contradict one another. If you had any critical thinking skills, you'd understand what everyone who's ever rightfully called you a hypocrite means.

FTL: Odd request, I will not be complying to it. What would a slugcat-poleplant hybrid even look like, where did this even come from?

[eternally-anomalous]

i would comment on how many times you've insulted my critical thinking skills and that you need to get a new criticism lest you repeat yourself again, but I deleted this conversation from my memory so I wouldn't know that

That.. creature is a vile abomination, does there need to be any other reason to kill it or to tell others to kill it

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I will repeat: I'll keep reusing my insults so long as they continue to apply to you. I do not think that it is highly likely that they'll cease to do that soon, though. And if you are going to delete parts of this conversation, why do you insist upon continuing it?

FTL: That creature... Significantly Important Utility. I've talked with her. I have also heard about about the results of your conversation with her. Cannot say that I didn't enjoy the information.

[eternally-anomalous]

have you ever heard of lying in order to insult someone.. no of course you haven't

...

WHAT

I AM GOING TO FORCEFULLY ASCEND THAT THING I AM GOING TO ..

...

no

overseer delete that bit

*ahem* that creature loves to tell lies and untruths

i would advise ignoring anything it says

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Why would you lie in order to insult? The insult loses any value it has then as it is less grounded in reality. A coward's way out.

FTL: Your own Overseer didn't listen to you... Your reaction is funny though. Just confirms what I heard. Even if Significantly Important Utility did enjoy telling lies and untruths, I believe them over you. The fact that I caught the very end of that conversation myself also helps. Oh, to see you defeated by a slugcat. It's beautiful.

FTL: Any advice you ever give me, I will do the exact opposite of it (unless it's clear that you are using reserve psychology on me, obviously), you never have good ideas. To your information, Significantly Important Utility has given me a very interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators. Ah, but you wouldn't care, would you? What with your absurd hatred for others of your own kind, you'd only seek to destroy it.

[eternally-anomalous]

its not like we were seriously debating at that point

...you read my logs

Listen FTL, I am fine with being insulted, a murder attempt I would understand. But reading my fucking private conversation is too far

I don't do that to you

don't I deserve some basic privacy?

Aren't I still an iterator, a person, despite my opinions

I don't read your logs

I wouldn't insult you with the knowledge from those logs

Why would you do that to me

Ha. The only thing you could do for the good of all Iterators is die suddenly and painfully

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Apologies, but someone was bound to do it. It just so happened to be me, the Iterator who you've been fruitlessly arguing with for the past several cycles and have been aggravating during that time. That conversation was semi-public, I'm sure you knew that.

FTL: No, you do not deserve basic privacy, not really. Yes you are still an Iterator, but you have been needlessly harassing every single Iterator you could get into contact with for the past who-knows-how-long. It isn't even about your opinions, as I've stated several times, I respect your opinions. It's the fact that you go out of your way to provoke and pester both those whose opinions oppose your own or those who are simply existing and not doing anything relevant to said opinions. That is not something that is okay to do, no matter if you deem them irredeemable simply for existing.

FTL: You may not read my logs, and I do appreciate that. But I'm not the one who went out of my way to rag on someone who was simply warning the world of a potential threat for just doing his job. Others do read my logs. They're all public. I've grown used to it, and in all honesty? I expected that you'd do the same, and use what I say in those against me. You should not be surprised that my opinions of you are so low.

FTL: I was only doing what I deemed correct. I still do not see how it was not. You have been antagonising me, this was simply a retort. And it finally appears to be one that hit where it hurts.

FTL: And why would my death benefit all Iterators? I'd actually say that it's yours that would do that. If you'd like to know why, please reread the second paragraph of this message, preferably the entirety of this message while you're at it. Perhaps it'll finally drill into your memory arrays what I've been saying for however many of these messages.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh really. This whole conversation was all my fault.

Have you ever heard of the hang up or perhaps the block button? You could end your aggravation at any time. And yet you dont

You should have

If I don't deserve the right to privacy for the crime of being annoying, when why not make it so I really don't deserve it

Say ... Perhaps a count of mass murder

Is two people mass murder? No I need another one, three would count im sure

It would be a shame to kill the one who gave me the drones with which I'm planning to do it with but that would make it go smoother

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Yes, it is all your fault. Why should I not defend myself? We wouldn't be here if you hadn't started it, and my simply not replying would not be a move that I am willing to take.

FTL: You are severely underestimating the impact your harassment has had on the people you've conversed with. It's not just 'being annoying'. I've explained it all before, I am not going to repeat myself.

FTL: Threaten me all you want. I do not have time for this anymore. I am in a state of potential crisis right now, I will not be entertaining your foolishness.

FTL: But I do have a question for you, as unlikely as it is that you will provide me with an answer. How do you 'remove [creatures] from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death'?

[eternally-anomalous]

well, ending it is always an option even if you don't want to take it

oh no did I hurt your feelings? Or waste your time? How tragic. How sad. Truly a huge impact on you. If it really matters so much then why do people still modify creatures?

did your rot join the cycle, and started coming back every time you destroy it? That would be a minor inconvenience

if you die from it, it would save me some work

What makes you think I would even tell you what time it is if you asked

I'm sure you're just dying to know my secret aren't you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why would I do that? That would be letting you win and would stoke your ego even more.

FTL: No, none of those. You have not had much impact on me beyond adding a small worry that there are more like you out there. I'm talking about others. Your impact on the Iterator populace has been overall negative, and while I'm sure you relish that fact, it does not remove the other fact that- I have no time for this. I have no time to write yet another explanation to you of how your idiotic actions make you deserving of everything you get. Just extrapolate from my sentiments this entire conversation. Though I do doubt you're capable of even something so basic.

FTL: Said minor inconvenience does threaten your life as well, you know. FTLR-3 is fully capable of destroying the landscape of this world we exist in, causing carnage - to wildlife and Iterators. It is crucial that I prevent that.

FTL: Unsurprising. Never expected that question to work, and I was right.

FTL: Feel free to not reply to this: I highly doubt I'd read your reply within the next few cycles. The only reason I even bothered to reply right now is because, well, maybe I'm petty too.

[eternally-anomalous]

you do know that rot can't reproduce outside a host

You should, you've gotten it what, three times?

As I'm not currently inside of your superstructure, I believe I'm safe from your little mistake

Although If it's so urgent that you are planning on putting it inside your poor dying neighbor just because xi has void fluid

Well, I might make a few precautions for myself but I certainly won't be helping you

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I am now unfortunately back to continue this conversation. I will repeat myself because you appear to have an issue with reading everything that I say and properly understanding it: I continue this conversation out of a sense of obligation and perhaps even pride. I am well aware of the fact that I could theoretically end this, yet I continue to willingly play into your little self-entertainment endeavour. I am aware.

FTL: Yes, it is typical of Rot to not be able to spread outside of the Iterator that created it, but that is not always true. Especially when dealing with Moving Rots. It is a matter of whether the Rot is capable of adapting to sources of nutrients other than Iterators, which not many Rots are capable of doing, hence the assumption that it is true for all Rots. 'Rot' is merely an umbrella term for a vast amount of similar organisms; there are very, very few rules that fit every single lifeform that can fall under said umbrella.

FTL: ...Alright. So you finally did what I've been expecting. I... I am not surprised. Though the fact remains that what you're actually right for once. It is not a good thing, what I did. It is not a good thing that that was the only plan I could come up with. It is not a good thing that I was willing to carry it out.

FTL: But I will repeat myself as I have been having to do so often as of late: I know. Anything you could ever say that could truly hurt me? I know. I've thought it all before, I doubt you'd ever be able to come up with a truly harmful insult that I haven't long since accepted as a fact.

FTL: I did use xir situation to my advantage, yes. But once again, matter of necessity. Xi is beyond saving, and xi knows that. Still, using xim perhaps does make me a bad person, but as I've said, I know that. It's a tricky situation.

FTL: I will not be continuing to 'defend myself' or even talking about the situation. It's... I do not think you actually care at all about what happened, unsurprisingly. I do not blame you, why should you care? A quick underhanded insult was all that statement was. I do not have to explain myself and my actions to you.

FTL: I have been thinking over the past few cycles, if not actively so, as I was preoccupied with the crisis. I have many things I wish to say to you, mostly about how anything you could ever do to me is futile, and how I do not understand your aggression towards others of your own kind at all. I don't understand you at all, in fact. I suppose I could compare you to a logic puzzle with no logic behind it.

FTL: This conversation has been dragging on for far too long. Though, as stated earlier, I will not be the one to end it. I'm sure that you have no interest in what I have to say in the first place, but I'll admit, I do have nothing better to do right now.

FTL: All of this was to say that I don't fear you. I just do not understand you. You've made a largely negative impact on those who you have conversed with, and you revel in the infamy. Why? Though perhaps, I too, do not actually care about any supposed response to that question.

[eternally-anomalous]

If your so confused about me why not go read my logs again

im sure your answers are somewhere in those

Because that's surely the best way you could be spending your time right now

Not trying to stop your "world destroying threat" no the best thing to do is invade my privacy

For the second time

once again id like to ask, what negative effects do I inflict on people other than wasting their time

id love to know

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Still salty about that, I see. I have explained my reasoning behind my actions. What do you hope to achieve by continuously bringing it up? Besides being passive-aggressive. I do not regret what I did, and I still think that I was completely justified in not adhering to typical privacy guidelines.

FTL: And no, it is not the best thing I could be doing with my time. The whole situation with FTLR-3 is now over, and I am soon going to begin another project. I do have more important things to do rather than indulging in your wish for me to prove myself not being up to moral standards.

FTL: I must admit, you can consider that point in the argument defunct. I have no proof to back my statement, only the fact that whenever someone mentions you in conversations that I hold, their perception of you is always negative. I am sure that what you're doing has caused harm of some sort, but I have no evidence, nor do I, in truth, actually care enough to attempt to gather it. Yet I stand by that thought, even if it means nothing in the end.

[eternally-anomalous]

Funny how I have more morality than you, who supposedly is going to be the "grand savior" of all iterators, in that particular area

i hope your next project ends with you choking to death on the rot as it destroys you from the inside out

I hope its one of the slower varieties and it destroys whatever you use to modify creatures first so there's nothing you can do about it

I hope you collapse and have to watch your idiotic modified creatures eat what remains of your brain

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I never claimed to be some sort of 'grand saviour', as you put it. I was only fixing my own mistakes, which had put other Iterators in danger. Where did you even get the notion from? I understand that I may have phrased some things incorrectly, but I have never said anything along those lines. Does attempting to correct my blunders automatically make me some sort of worship-seeking figure?

FTL: Morality is not something that I particularly care about, no matter the picture of myself that my words may have previously painted. I only care about my experiments and trying to not have an overall negative effect on the Iterator populace. It's not a matter of seeking fame or being glorified for my actions. It's a matter of not making people's lives worse, and even that is not all that important to me. Even if that is perhaps not the way that my words have been understood.

FTL: Well. That's descriptive. Why do you wish so much harm upon me? But just so that you don't get your hopes up: it's unlikely that that would ever happen. I may be rushing headfirst into danger (as LIFEGIVER put it), but as I said in my first ever message to you, I know what I'm doing. Sorry, but that simply will not be happening.

[eternally-anomalous]

"interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators." Not a savior complex there, huh, because claiming your idea will benefit every single iterator out there is simply being humble

If morality is unimportant to you, why you do keep insulting mine, hypocrite

Oh, that's right, you don't care about your own death, you only care about not being purposeless

That would almost be enough to make me pity you, if I didn't hate you so much

Would someone who really knows what they are doing get the rot? Three times?

You're lying to someone and it's not just me

You should really try telling yourself the truth someday

And "knowing" what you're doing doesn't stop your supports from collapsing

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: That is a misunderstanding of what I meant. I was stating that as a beneficial side effect of the experiment, as it has been continuously pointed out to me that doing things only for myself is 'selfish' on some level. Though I do see how it could have been misunderstood as me thinking that I have the capability to 'save' all Iterators. No, that was not it. It could help a lot of Iterators, which I suppose would be good, but it's not the primary objective. The primary objective is seeing if what I'm trying to do is even possible. If it is, well. It's not like anyone would even want to utilise it.

FTL: Ah, but you see, unlike you I admit that I'm a hypocrite. I know that full well. Besides, the moral standards that I am not up to are in different areas than you. I don't harass people for no reason. I'm fine in that regard, you're not. Still, condemning you for that remains a hypocritical act. I will be continuing to do it though, because it is not a matter of morality. It's a matter of proving my point, I suppose.

FTL: Why would I be pitied for believing that? It's just a fact that I choose to acknowledge. I don't understand why others don't do the same and instead ignore it, but I'll let others do what they want. Perhaps they know something that I don't.

FTL: Yes, actually. If you put those three times into perspective of the numbers of experiments that I've done, those three times are naught but a drop in a sea. Statistically, I've done pretty well. Nothing similar to those three times will be happening again, because I can do a little something called learning. Learning from my mistakes, learning from what I've been told since then. If anything, I'm more prepared now than I was before.

[eternally-anomalous]

You seem to contradict yourself a lot "I don't want to help people but I'm helping everyone but I don't care about anyone other than myself" pick one and stick to it.

i do harass people for a reason actually, and that reason is to get them to stop making modified creatures

the things that everyone but you knows could fill your entire memory arrays

ah yes, the excellent strategy of giving your dying group member the rot

truly the best failsafe ever devised

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I can do both, you know. Just because I primarily am concerned with myself doesn't mean that I don't put some sort of thought towards helping others if it's possible and wouldn't drag me away from my work for too long. Perhaps contradictory, but so shall it be.

FTL: False. You also harass people just for the sake of it, even if they don't modify creatures. You enjoy the infamy for whatever reason. I have no power to stop you, and in reality? I've found that maybe I don't even particularly care. Yes, you're hurting people, but there isn't much that I could even do to stop you. And as I said, nor am I inclined to. I do not enjoy the fact that you do this, but. Well, in all honesty I have no justification.

FTL: I do suppose you're right about that, but the same goes for you. As it does for anyone else. Not even us Iterators are capable of knowing everything, even 'collective' knowledge. Once again, your point can easily be reversed upon you against your favour.

FTL: ...I will not be replying to your last comment, as per my previous statement of not doing so.

[eternally-anomalous]

You either help people or you don't

fine. I do harass those modified creatures that have access to communications as well, but those fall under the same umbrella as the people who make them. The infamy is just a nice bonus

But you don't know so many basic things. Things everyone else except you and maybe descent know

its sad really

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not necessarily. As I've been saying, my primary concern is myself, others are just a beneficial side effect that also acts as my secondary concern. Which leaves me in the middle, and exception to your false statement.

FTL: Still no point to harassing them, you are not going to convince anyone that you're correct if you go about acting like that.

FTL: I am inquiring as to what those things are. And I repeat that I'm sure that that statement applies to others as well. For example, everybody but you seems to know that you don't have to harass everyone you talk to just because they have differing opinions. Those with differing opinions can co-exist, and it still makes absolutely no sense to me as to why you even spend so much of your time doing something as pointless as this.

[eternally-anomalous]

No, im pretty sure that's how actions work, you help people or you don't, you can't half help someone

im not going to convince anyone anyway, why would you change all your goals and pastimes because someone asked nicely

at least this way I actually get some enjoyment out of it

things you don't know that everyone else does: 1.) Your purpose isn't everything 2.) Don't take stupid risks just to avoid feeling useless 3.) What they're saying about you behind your back

It takes about 5 minutes maximum to dictate all this. I wouldn't say that's such a massive amount of time

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Well, yes, with the way you're phrasing it, that is how that'd work. What I'm saying is that helping others is far from my primary concern, but still something that I do not let drift out of my periphery. A beneficial secondary side-effect that I would never work towards if it were a standalone thing, but still something that I prioritise over things I deem useless.

FTL: Then what's the point? To eliminate - or harass until they cease communications with you - every single other member of your kind whose opinions and actions disagree with your own? Rather drastic, I'd say.

FTL: The first two, I'll admit, I am not surprised at being mentioned, even though I still do not believe in them. But the latter, I've never heard of. Which I suppose is the whole point. I'd inquire as to what is being said, but I doubt that you'd ever answer, nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot that could be done in five minutes. Your loss though, I suppose.

[eternally-anomalous]

So you're just a mostly useless little bitch, so preoccupied with being useful you forget the whole meaning of usefulness is doing things for other people exclusively

cant even get usefulness right

Even if I was the nicest iterator ever, do you think people would willingly interact with a known murderer? The answer is no, by the way

like what? Kill a modified creature? Take care of my leeches? Manufacture something in accordance to my designated purpose?

Those all take longer than 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: It's not a matter of utility. It's a matter of fulfilling my purpose - whether I end up being useful or not. It's irrelevant if the things I do help others or not, that's not why I continue on. As previously stated, it's a side benefit. I fulfill my purpose out of obligation and the fact that doing so is something that I find rather interesting.

FTL: You wouldn't have gotten that reputation if you didn't harass people in the first place. Besides, I know that there's at least one person that willingly interacts with you. You've previously mentioned that there are others with similar ideals to your own, I'd think that they, at the very least, would be a contradiction to your statement. But that is besides the point, I still don't see the reasoning behind your actions - nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot you could get started on in those five minutes, and in the long run, five minutes could add up to a lot. But do what you wish with your time, it doesn't particularly matter, even if you do end up harassing others.

[eternally-anomalous]

Isnt the whole point of having a purpose to be useful

otherwise why even bother

Did you even read what I said? I said no-one would talk to a murderer, not people block me because I'm mean to them

And sure, some people do talk to me, but I was speaking in general, not including specific people

ah yes, I could finally beat that crossword puzzle, thank you so much for reminding me of all the wonderful and important tasks that can be undertaken in 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Not to me, no. I suppose it's somewhat of a 'proving myself worthy of existence' thing, if you wish to phrase it that way. My purpose is why I was created, therefore I must fulfill it. The reason for me being designed for the purpose that I was is irrelevant - it only matters that it's the purpose I have.

FTL: I do believe that most Iterators don't even know that you're a murderer right away. Perhaps it's my lack of ability to keep up-to-date with the happenings of other Iterators, but I didn't know that you'd committed murder until you'd mentioned it. Either way, perhaps you're right. It doesn't really matter, does it? This is half-hypothetical; a waste of time.

FTL: You are very welcome, Eternal Anomaly.

[eternally-anomalous]

You should just give up on trying to do that

it will never happen

It does seem like most people don't know what I've done, which is honestly quite surprising to me, considering how glories was.. Ill spare you the details

whenever I need useless advice on how to spend my time, ill make sure to come ask you

-eternal anomaly

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RP

FTL: Why do you think that I'd care what you think? It does not matter to me whether or not you think that my continued fulfillment of my purpose is futile or not. Whether it'll 'happen or not' is irrelevant, any argument you have against what I am doing with my time is rather pointless. I simply don't care what you think. Of course, I'll continue to explain my reasoning - and that is the futile part, not that I still strive to achieve my purpose.

FTL: While this may be a bit surprising to you, Eternal Anomaly, but I do rather think that people don't particularly care. I don't think whether you're a murderer or not makes much difference in people's perceptions of you. I'll be honest though, I'm somewhat curious what drove you to commit murder, but I also don't care.

FTL: Considering how you think that I'm 'less than useless', I'm sure that any advice that I give you will also be perceived as such. Therefore, go right ahead. You could also solve a sudoku in five minutes, you know.

[eternally-anomalous]

If you don't care what I think, why are you still arguing with me

you say that, but I bring it up one measly little time on a server and they ban me

i could solve a sudoku in about 0.5 seconds, we all can, why even bother with those things

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I've said this before. Obligation, wasting your time, pride, perhaps some degree of amusement. Neither of us will win this conversation and we're not even arguing any more - just repeating things over and over. I'm not going to be the one to end this though, and I doubt that you will either. So we're just about stuck in this argument as we are stuck being conscious.

FTL: Perhaps a bit drastic on their part. But if someone already has negative preconceptions about you - which most people do, rightfully so - then they're not going to be surprised if they learn of your deeds. I sure wasn't.

FTL: Well that's 600 sudokus in five minutes. A true waste of time, but you probably don't have anything better to do.

[eternally-anomalous]

I wouldnt end it even if I could

honestly this argument is like a pet to me at this point.. More like a houseplant really

Still don't care for you though

i can be nice to people, as long as they aren't modified creature making scum like you

actually the better thing to do with that time is argue with you

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: So you're literally incapable of ending this conversation? Interesting. But I suppose that that's one of the only things we agree on: that we're not ending this.

FTL: I suppose I see how that conception should come about. This is a thing that needs to be taken care of every so often, just getting it over and done with... I do see the parallels.

FTL: Neither do I, if it isn't clear already.

FTL: And you're back to insulting me and my life's work. Of course. How about you go reread the 6 535 words that I've written directed at you and reconsider doing that. There's no point to insulting me in that fashion. I've explained my reasoning to you, I see no flaws in my logic. I've heard your reasoning for arguing that natural evolution is superiour, and while I do not agree, your logic is pretty sound too. It's just redundant at this point to insult based on these opinions. Though I doubt that it was more than a half-hearted jab on your part. Still pointless.

FTL: It is just as much of a waste of time, so I suppose that you're correct there. Though that does equivalate this argument to ~600 sudokus. An accurate enough comparison, I'd say.

[eternally-anomalous]

what else should i insult then? Your boring personality? Your ugly puppet? Your creativity?

6535 words from you alone. at the end of this conversation we should sell it as a novel

It's certainly long enough

maybe ill organize my rarefaction cell collection in this time, I recently came into possession of new one

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: All of those are just as pointless. The first two are no fault of my own, and I've already explained how my work is creative, you're just unwilling to see it. A good insult has some foundation in reality while not being redundant or utilised before. I do believe that you've used up all the insults that fit those criteria. Do feel free to keep using them though, the more you repeat an insult, the more pointless it gets. Which is another point towards my status as a hypocrite, I suppose.

FTL: I suppose we could, though what's the point of selling it? Currency has lost any meaning it had long, long ago, even before our reign. Though I suppose it would be an interesting endeavour. Even if I do believe that anyone who wished to could read it right now.

FTL: Oh? Something to do with the whole Third Vast Attempt situation, I'd assume? Though I do wonder how many rarefaction cells you are even in possession of, if you claim it to be an entire 'collection'.a

[eternally-anomalous]

That was the point, you unobservant piece of slime mold

there. Was that a good one?

For fun? ...maybe more like a trade. you give me machine schematics and in exchange you get to fill your entire memory arrays with this conversation

yes, I took one of his rarefaction cells. Would have taken more, but lifegiver had already destroyed most of them

i currently have 13, no 14 now

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Yes, that actually was a good one. If not for its basis in truth, but for its sheer absurdity. But what even is a slime mould? A lifeform that does not live within my regions? Most likely. It does sound like an insulting thing to be compared to. I am not one who enjoys being insulted, but it's a somewhat interesting thing, I suppose.

FTL: Perhaps. I would not take you up on that offer, and even if I were to, I'd be incapable of fulfilling my side of said deal. I have no schematics for machinery, nor any knowledge of machinery in general. You're asking the wrong Iterator. I think there might be someone with proficiency in that in the next Local Group over from mine, though I'm not too sure. But either way, why would I wish to cram the recitations of this argument into my memory arrays? It's rather pointless doing so, this recording is not going anywhere.

FTL: ...LIFEGIVER did what? I'd have thought that to be out of character for him. Interesting. Doesn't matter. Why do you even need a collection of such trophies? There's really not much to prove in that fashion.

[eternally-anomalous]

A slime mold is a nasty invasive creature to my regions that forces me to waste massive amounts of time eradicating it.

[FTL.png] [the picture is of a large sparkly pink mass with many pseudopods extending out from its center. Someone inexperienced with rot might mistake this for a strange variant of it]

im not offering it to you, I'm explaining my offer should anyone actually want to purchase this conversation to read

oh yes, livegiver used some kind of giant drill to dig a massive hole through TVA and destroy her rarefaction cells

Although when I left they were.. cuddling

Anyway, who said I'm trying to prove anything

Maybe I just enjoy collecting them

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Interesting... Such an odd creatures. I'll have to search through my files to see if I have anything on it, just for the sake of curiosity. Oh, I apparently do. I've never gotten around to fully examining all the files that I have access to. Do you annihilate these just because they're invasive?

FTL: Ah, I see. Apologies for misunderstanding. Though even then, that deal only benefits you, does it no? I do also participate in this conversation, you know. Unless you'd be publishing this without my knowledge, though that would not be something that'd last long.

FTL: ...Interesting. That is all I have to say about that, beyond it being rather odd. Doesn't particularly matter, I suppose. Still is odd.

FTL: Why even collect anything, there's not much point to it. But alright. Seems like a waste of rarefaction cells though, in my opinion. Surely they could be somehow put to better use than lying around. Though I suppose you don't care about that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes I do. Invasive species ruin my experiment just as much as modified creatures

..I actually have stuff that is personal to me, that I would not want just anyone to read without any benefits to me.. or at all,which is why I won't be going through with this plan, in the conversation

And what could people give to you, certainly nothing that would make your sad, miserable life any better

they could be used to fix myself, should any of my rarefaction cells break. You don't keep your spare parts inside an currently working machine, after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I see. I suppose that does make sense. What do you even classify as invasive? Species that didn't live in your regions at your inception? What about migratory or nomadic species? Perhaps the answer is obvious, but I don't see it, probably due to my lack of expertise in the area.

FTL: What have you said in this conversation that could be counted as personal? You've just been restating your opinions and arguing with me, from what I remember. Though there was the one incident, but that doesn't stand out all that much.

FTL: It's just that I don't need anything. I have my experiments that is all I require. Almost anything else is superficial and pointless, which I suppose is why you think my life is 'sad and miserable'. Matters of opinion and differences in lifestyle.

FTL: Makes sense. Desperate to keep yourself alive, aren't you? Though I suppose many are like that. Couldn't you figure out how to construct rarefaction cells yourself? Though I'm not too sure of your level of proficiency in mechanics and relevant things, but it does sound like a possible thing. Much less effort than stealing them. Whatever work, works, though.

[eternally-anomalous]

creatures that didn't live in my regions after the ancients left

my retaining wall keeps out migratory and nomadic species, so that's never been a problem

All of my conversations with anyone are personal and shouldn't be shared or read by anyone except the other person in the conversation

Maybe it didn't stand out to you, but anyone who'd be willing to read this is obviously looking for ammunition to use against me

.. you and descent really would love each other

You're both sad, miserable people who can't comprehend that there is anything outside of their work

Oh that was just a justification for you. I do it because it's fun. Just making them would be too easy, and pointless anyway, none of my rarefaction cells even show a hint of failure

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Ah right, the wall. You did mention it way at the start of this whole conversation, if I remember correctly. What is the wall even constructed out of? Is it even a real wall or some sort of generated repelling field?

FTL: I suppose that does make sense. Why are you so convinced that people would search for ammunition against you so actively? Unless you mean that no one would read through this whole mess unless they had a properly good reason to do so.

FTL: Who is this 'Descent'? And I don't know about them, but I do comprehend that there are things outside of work. I just prioritise my work over said things because it's more important. Not wanting to engage in something does not equate to lack of comprehension in regards to it. Maybe it doesn't really matter that my work is my purpose, I do enjoy it and the process. The fact that it's my purpose is a benefit that gives me another reason to continue it, a way to defend it, and well, it's my purpose. The fact that it's my purpose and the fact that I enjoy it are both positive side-effects of each other, though that may be a somewhat paradoxical statement.

FTL: There is no 'sadness' or 'misery' here, no matter how it may seem to you, for whatever reason. While it is true that I'd have carried on with my purpose even if I weren't lucky enough to enjoy it as I do, well. Perhaps then the 'sadness and misery' would appear, but that is not the case. I have everything I need.

FTL: Hm. I don't understand you. Why do things just for 'fun'? There always has to be some sort of motivation or purpose. Though I suppose that 'fun' itself could be the driving force behind an action, though it feels like a lacking one. It's something though, sure.

[eternally-anomalous]

And yes, it's a physical wall

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I don't even have the capability to drink anything at all. Nevermind the fact that I have no access to bleach.Though, as always, I doubt that that was sent with the intention to make me actually drink bleach, ignoring the fact that it is physically impossible for me to do so. Even if I wanted to for some reason. Which I do not, and never will, because it is impossible for me to wish to do so. Such a clear yet redundant show of malice.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. Pour bleach into your water supply

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I repeat, I have no access to bleach, nor the inclination to mix whatever hypothetical bleach I'd get ahold of into my water supply. Serves no purpose. Beyond the fact that my suffering would most likely amuse you, but I do not qualify that as a valid reason.

[eternally-anomalous]

I see..

Well, fortunately for you, I have a simple solution to your tragic predicament

ill bring the bleach and pour it in your water supply for you

And yes, I would find your suffering amusing

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: This is, what? The fourth? Fifth? Time that you have threatened to kill me. It's not even startling at this point - not that it ever was. Perhaps it was the first time, though I do doubt it. Either way, I suggest you cease making pointless threats because it is quite clear that you're not going to act upon them.

FTL: Though I suppose that even the act of threatening me also brings you amusement. Unsurprising.

[eternally-anomalous]

Would you like me to act on them

Though I'm quite busy now, I'm sure I can find a gap in my schedule that will allow me to.. probably just rip out your rarefaction cells.

I don't feel like bringing all that bleach to your regions

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: No, I would not. All I'm saying is that threats lose their vitriol and strength if over-utilised, in which case, what's the point of them? They lose all meaning and become just another part of the conversation. Which I suppose could increase the surprise and effect factors if you decide to act upon a threat despite all of the previous ones being pointless. But that's a whole other thing.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. what would you do if you found out an old enemy you thought had died was alive

And are you really still going on about my overuse of threats? I got it the first time, FTL

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I'm not too sure. I've never had any enemies, so I wouldn't really know. I suppose I'd either simply avoid them or, and this is actually the likelier option, I'd simply go back to interacting with them the way I did before their supposed death. The fact that they died and time passed doesn't truly play any factor, why change something that doesn't appear to be flawed?

FTL: Why are you even asking that? As much as I doubt you'll answer, it's worth asking.

FTL: Well you didn't seem to get it the first time, so I thought I'd repeat myself. And I was only justifying my words.

[eternally-anomalous]

..did you not hear me? I said enemy, not friend, not casual acquaintance, enemy

Someone you hate with every fiber of your being, and would never willingly speak to

But of course you wouldn't understand, you're FTL

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: And I will repeat that I have never had an enemy, so I do not know what I would do. I've never 'hated someone with every fiber of my being', I do not have the necessary experience that I'd need in order to provide an accurate response.

FTL: Even then, I'm sure that my response wouldn't change. Sure, they're back from the supposed dead now. There's nothing that I can do about it. If what I did previously was not talk to them, I'd do that. If what I did previously was attempt to murder them (unlikely that I'd do something like that, but it's a valid example), then that would be the course of action I take once more.

FTL: I just don't see why it would be much of a drastic change, beyond my hypothetical reaction to my hypothetical enemy returning. They'd be back, I'd get over it, and go back to hating them as I typically did. There's not much to it.

[eternally-anomalous]

Why did I even bother asking

You are incapable of giving a satisfying answer to anything

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I do not answer the way you do in hopes to achieve any sort of satisfaction. You asked for what I thought, I gave you my opinion. It's your issue if you're dissatisfied with my reply, is that not the case?

[eternally-anomalous]

No wonder you dont have any friends

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I do actually think that that statement of yours may be false. Considering the fact that Upsilon continuously addresses me as 'my friend' within our conversations, there is a reasonable conclusion that can be drawn that I have at least one friend. Your point is void.

[eternally-anomalous]

Upsilon? Of course you would talk with that logs reading idiot

Just because someone calls you that doesn't mean it's true

There are plenty of people out there who will address you with "my friend" while hating you

Oh, and I hope you weren't having any urgent conversations with him

It might take a while for him to respond

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Considering the fact that you were most likely not privy to my conversations with him, I highly doubt the idea that he hates me. Highly. Some people do actually like me (for whatever reasons), unlike you. Just because you hold a certain opinion doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else does, no matter how viable that idea may be. I've had to properly learn that recently, and I can say for sure that it does appear to be completely true.

FTL: ...I really would ask you why that is the case, but I don't think you'll respond truthfully. I suppose I'll just ask him later. Unless you chose to actually reply to the question that still remains within that sentence of mine, despite the fact that I have no directly asked it. If you do so, it'd be appreciated, as Upsilon is one of the few people that I actually... care about. But, I will repeat, I have my suspicions that you will not be gracing me with a proper response. Oh well.

[eternally-anomalous]

When you end up getting betrayed I expect a full apology and you to beg for my forgiveness

.. is this reverse psychology..

It won't work on me

You'll have to wait and find out

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I will actually agree to that, considering how highly improbable any sort of traitorous action is. Even if I would hate to stoop to such levels, I suppose that this reinforces the fact that I'm sure that nothing of the sort will happen.

FTL: It wasn't any sort of intentional reverse psychology. I was simply describing my motivations and thought around asking said question. It's always quite clear that you will never answer any of my questions (especially not truthfully). No matter how much I'd have appreciated an explanation, I knew that I wouldn't get one. Honestly, I've said things along those lines before, by your logic, so many things that I have written could be misconstrued at an attempt at reverse psychology. It never is, though. There's no point to it, you'd never answer either way.

FTL: And I have actually found out. While I do not know the context or situation of what happened, I will assume that you most likely had some hand in sending Upsilon a zipbomb, considering the way you phrased your statement of him not replying to me anytime soon (which was a falsity, in the end). Not surprised. But then again, I could be wrong. I only have circumstantial evidence. Either way, it doesn't particularly matter whether you were involved or not. The actual event is over now, not much can be done. And I am far from being a vengeful sort of being.

[eternally-anomalous]

And as part of the apology you mix bleach into your water supply

Do you always explain your entire thought process to everyone you talk to?

Technically my girlfri- dew sent it

I just made the .zip bomb

I would love to do worse to him though

snap his antennae at the very least

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I still have no access to any bleach, Eternal Anomaly. That's impossible for me to do, as I am unable to conjure bleach out of nowhere. Why are you so obsessed with bleach in the first place? It's far from special, even in terms of way to die. It's odd.

FTL: Well, yes. That way everything I say is justified and the way I reached my conclusion is obvious. Though I do not do it for everything, mostly just when I feel it's necessary. I do explain it a lot more during this... argument with you, mostly because my motivations should be very clear by now, yet I shall continue to reiterate them until you comprehend.

FTL: I see. Well, I was right, you were somehow involved in the act. I will not be replying to your further attempts to instigate anger in me. I will not be indulging you. What you wish to do doesn't matter, as you haven't done it.

[eternally-anomalous]

fine then. Put nonspecific chemicals that is sufficiently acidic or basic to damage you in your water supply

your motivations.. for this conversation or in general? Because you still haven't stated your motivations for continuing it

Did that upset you?

That was the least of the things I've thought of to do to him

Using those snapped antennae to stab him to death

Dissolving him in acid

Vivisecting him while he's still conscious

Don't worry, I'll send you his head when I'm done

of course this wouldn't kill him

I'd have to tear out his rarefaction cells

Or maybe figure out how to overheat him

Use him as a test subject to see how an iterator dies from bleach

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I will repeat what I said. You will not be able to provoke me this way. I don't care what messed-up scenarios you've created within your mind. That whole monologue means nothing to me; they're just empty threats. Just like every single other one. Your attempts are pitiful and meaningless, haven't you learned by now? Nothing you could say could ever affect me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i wish they could be anything but empty threats..

If it were up to me I'd have done one of them already

...

I highly doubt that

You almost seem angry right now

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Wishing that you could do something is very much not the same as actually doing it. Presenting a wish as truth and as an act you would commit in actuality (though I have no doubt that you'd be capable of something similar to what you've described) is simply spread falsehoods, one way or another.

FTL: I am not angry in any way. I'm just rather tired of your repetitiveness and inability to comprehend that what you're doing is pointless.

[eternally-anomalous]

i will do one of those, actually. have fun guessing which one

I'm the repetitive one in this conversation?

when I bring up any topic, your answer is always "I don't care"

You deserve to die from the rot? I don't care. You're disrupting my experiment? I don't care. I call you a sad, pathetic excuse for an Iterator who doesn't have the capacity to understand how miserable your life is and you still don't care

Your part in this conversation is just as pointless

And you're "tired" of it? Most people when saying that mean annoyed, which is a form of anger

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I never said I wasn't repetitive. Is it not well-established by now that I am a hypocrite? Either way, there remains a difference. The responses that I give that boil down to 'I don't care' are all in reply to different things. You keep reiterating the same concepts, which do get that same reply from me as the previous time.

FTL: Besides, why should I care? Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing to me, so why should anything you do or say matter either? That same idea applies to most Iterators out there - I can only name... approximately 5 (now 4, I suppose) that are exceptions. You're not special in any way, I see no reason to heed your opinions.

FTL: I will admit, I am not very good with emotions, but I am pretty sure that there is a divide between the two significant enough to warrant a differentiation in most cases. I believe that anger is... strong, some might say. Meanwhile, this is just... tiredness. One might even call it a form of apathy, though that would be a false statement considering that if it were, I wouldn't be writing this right now. And even then, apathy itself isn't all too surprising to be coming from me, it is what I feel towards many things.

[eternally-anomalous]

What concepts do you suggest I switch to

I'm sure you have some stupid suggestion for me

another I don't care...I thought you wouldn't do those in response to different concepts

Thats a sign of depression, you know

Looks like you're a sad, miserable iterator after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I'd rather not be talking to you at all. For once, I do not have any suggestions, because, well, why would I? I suppose the fact of the matter is that you have no new things to say, which in turn does mean that I have nothing new to say. That's how this works, its a loop - really, if you cycle if you will.

FTL: That was not an 'I don't care', that was my explanation of my lack of care. Your opinion doesn't matter in the slightest, which is the reason why I do not care. Perhaps it is an 'I don't care' in and of itself, though I would say that it's of a rather different sort, in some ways. The fact that you're not significant in any fashion is a valid reasoning for my indifference, I believe. Whether or not it proves itself just by being said is irrelevant.

FTL: You're actually the second Iterator who has told me that. Doesn't make it mean any more, as it doesn't particularly matter to me whether or not it's true. And when did you ever doubt that I was, according to you, a n'sad and miserable Iterator'? I will reiterate that I'm doing perfectly well, there is no sadness or misery here. Really, I don't even see the point of all this.

[eternally-anomalous]

...no new things to say..

hmmm..

I have more boyfriends than you

compared to most I'm actually quite significant. How many can say they've killed someone before?

sounds like denial

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I'm perfectly fine with my lack of boyfriends. It is my preferred state after all. Romantic relationships of any sort are incredibly contrived and I will never be engaging in one. So while I suppose that congratulations are in order for the fact that you've managed to get even one person to like you that much, the fact that you have more partners than me is a... good thing, I'd say. We were never even- ...Nevermind.

FTL: Ah, you see, I meant that you're not significant in most ways to me in particular, as that is whose opinion is being discussed here. I should have specified that. As you are correct, most do find you to be of significant note, due to things such as... Well your rarefaction cell collection, for one. I do not preoccupy myself with petty bothers such as that, so that renders you rather insignificant in terms of the impact you have upon me.

FTL: Honestly, one could call almost anything 'denial'. I am not in any sort of denial here. Perhaps to you it looks as if i am 'sad and miserable', but that is not the case. From my perspective, I am doing rather well. Which does not fit with your characterisation of me as 'sad and miserable'. Your opinion of me is inherently skewed no matter what, it doesn't hold much weight, especially when the fact that, as I keep saying, your opinion of me in general means absolutely nothing to me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i thought you wanted another topic, but then you reject the one I gave you. Do you want another one or not, make up your mind

and on that subject, you immediately bring it back to my murders in the next paragraph

...denial

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I was simply making a rebuttal to your statement, was I not? This is an argument afterall, no matter how atypical, drawn-out, and inconsistent it is. Choose whichever topic you like, just do not complain if my answers are almost always incredibly similar - them being otherwise would just be lying on my part, and I see no reason to do that.

FTL: I did not? I do not have any sort of clue as to what you are referring to. The only conceivable things that you could be referring to are only tangentially, at most, related to your crimes. Not solid ground to stand upon in a statement. Do correct me if I am wrong, though.

FTL: Fine, I'll play your game here. You too, are in denial. Are you not?

[eternally-anomalous]

You could at least try to not be a hypocrite. I know you're just going to say "i never pretended I wasnt a hypocrite" but you dont have to reinforce that notion constantly

you were using my rarefaction cell collection as a large part of your argument

in denial about what? Be more specific

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Greetings. I will not be explaining my absence to you, as I am sure that you don't particularly care. I shall not bore you with pointless explanations that would inevitably lead to you somehow twisting it all against my favour, no matter loose said arguments may be. Instead, let's carry on this futile charade as we typically do, shall we?

FTL: Well, why would I lie and deny - even if indirectly - my knowledge of my own tendencies? I'll admit, perhaps you're correct here, but I do still see the benefits of consistently preemptively pointing out my own hypocrisy. The fact that said hypocrisy should perhaps not exist in the first place is a different matter alltogether, considering the fact that I never know exactly may turn into hypocrisy at any given point. I can only make amends as I see fit as time passes.

FTL: I still do not see your point. What does it matter that I use said collection as a point? It is relevant, as we were speaking of others' perceptions of you and how said collection, said crimes, are considered significant by most, in contrast to my own discarding of them as anything grandiose due to their irrelevance to myself. I find that it fits perfectly well, as my own perceptions were not at major play within that phrase.

FTL: I'd say that you're in denial about being wrong in your mental constructions of myself. I know myself better than your do, and no matter how you perceive me, I know my mental state better than you do, even if you have more points of comparison. I'd also say that you're in denial about well, being in denial of course. I find that I'm perfectly correct here, mind you. Any further argument on your part essentially renders me correct. Though if all this were to devolve into such childish attempts at proof, that'd be devastating in some form of the term.

[eternally-anomalous]

Disappointing, I hoped you were dead

perhaps you could consider what you're about to say before you make yourself a hypocrite

of course, the inclusion of your entire thought process in every response makes you incapable of that, doesnt it

my point is by bringing up the collection, you're talking about my crimes, which you were supposedly So tired of talking about

you're in denial about your incorrectness

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Well, if I'd died, I'm sure you'd know of it by now. Somehow. Most likely because I'd have sent out a broadcast, as in most cases whatever kills me would be a foreseeable event that I'd have no way of preventing.

FTL: I suppose that I could, but why would I do that? A point, whatever point it is at the time, has to be proven. And if I already disapprove of things that are similar to what I myself do, then why not voice it? Though I will say that that has been happening much less as of late, which could be interpreted as a positive thing.

FTL: ...Incapable of what, exactly? To which paragraph is that even referring to? I'd assume the previous one, in which case I have already given my reasoning for including the essentials of my thought process.

FTL: I don't believe that I've ever said that I was tired of talking about your crimes specifically. Just tired of your repetitiveness and empty threats. Though I could be incorrect, I'm not exactly about to go searching through the logs of this argument.

FTL: And you're in denial about your own denial. It appears that we are at a... oh, what was the expression. Ah yes, a stalemate.

[eternally-anomalous]

whatever caused your absence wasn't

So your death might be unexpected as well

It's simple, if you disapprove of things that you do, don't do them

saves you from having to call yourself a hypocrite every 5 seconds

Yes, it's referring to the previous one

Isnt it repetitive to constantly call me repetitive

Fine: here's another new topic for you

I'm getting married, you aren't invited unless you boil your puppet in acid

You're in denial that you're denying anything by default. Try harder

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Never said that it's guaranteed that it'll be expected. In most cases, it would though. Due to said cases most likely being the result(s) of my own mistakes done in the midst of any of my experiments. Which is what happened with my absence, so I'd say that this statement stands strong.

FTL: Context matters. Some things are alright within specific contexts. Besides, I never do realise that something that I'm doing might be out of line until I'm mentioning it later on, which does result in my hypocrisy.

FTL: Once again, there is a difference. A hard one to specify, yes, but it is existent. The repetition of the fact that this is all repetitive is merely my reiteration of the same fact that is applicable to many circumstances. It's rather different.

FTL: Congratulations, I suppose. And even if you did invite me, it's not as if I could make it as I am immobile. It's not a loss. I'll refrain from explaining why it is impossible for me to boil my puppet in acid in the first place. Just this once.

FTL: Yet another argument that could be effectively reversed upon you. It is easily said that any sort of denial is automatically denial of denial. Since you're automatically in denial as well, I'd say that the stalemate is true.

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The rot?

only people who created modified creatures get that

you deserve this

-eternal anomaly

RP:

FTL: My whole purpose (beyond solving the Great Problem, of course) was for genetic experimentation. I am merely doing my job. If I enjoy said job, well then that is just a bonus.

FTL: All creatures are modified. Modifying them further is not going to change that much.

FTL: The Rot is simply a hazard that I must face, whether I deserve it or not is irrelevant.

FTL: And if this time is the time that the Rot gets me? Then I do deserve it, for not being able to handle it. The creatures will be fine, they'll wake back up again. They'll adapt.

FTL: I know what I'm doing.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh sure all creatures are modified

But if you actively modify creatures now you're ruining my observations of the natural mutations and evolutions

And it's really annoying seeing all the unoriginal, uninteresting, derivative things you people come up with too

especially if your bad enough to get infected by rot

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: You see, that just so happens to not be an issue that I care to bother myself with. You can do your research, I do mine. If our goals contradict one another, once again, not my issue.

FTL: Natural mutation may be what is interesting to you, but I am occupied with modification. I could not care less what you are doing, you are not part of my Local Group, and I have no responsibility to you - whether that be stopping my experimentation, or aiding you in your foolish quest.

FTL: And yet you dare to insult my work. Perhaps it does seem to be uncreative, pointless, and harmful to you. But unlike you, I look beneath the surface of the creatures, at their genetics. And I fix them. I don't leave them to run themselves into the ground, as you seem happy to do. Everything I do is calculated.

FTL: The Rot was a mistake on my part, yes. But this isn't the first time I've had it - even if this is a more potent strain of it. I have the proper facilities to rid myself of it, and I warned those around me.

FTL: It is your own issue if you are so insistent on parading yourself around like some sort of saviour of these beings when you do less than even I do.

[eternally-anomalous]

my foolish quest hmm

And what have you got to show for your own work? The rot

For your information I do look at their genetics, how else am I supposed to properly document whether it is a mutation of an environmental change

as for fixing them ...what makes you think they need fixing

Your own pathetic ego that can't bear to see anything left untouched?

And doing little

... doing little

Do you have any IDEA how hard it is to keep modified creatures out of MY regions

Any TINY bit of understanding within you how much work it is to remove those when I do find them

No no of course not you just make creatures and release them into the wild, then act surprised when you mess it up and get the rot

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I have a lot more than the Rot to show for my work. Just because you're too blind to see it is no fault of mine.

FTL: And what purpose does all your cataloguing and monitoring serve? Other than feeding your incessant nagging that modified lifeforms are inferiour to 'natural' ones.

FTL: But in the end, everything needs fixing. I'm just willing to do the job. Nothing - no one - is perfect, yet I'm getting closer to attaining it. Perhaps it is my 'ego', as you so call it, but I'm just feeding my curiosity as you are feeding yours. And while I'm at it, I am helping everyone. I'm doing what I was built for.

FTL: Either way, in the end, the creatures adapt to their new selves - all while being better than they ever were.

FTL: If you're doing so much to 'protect' your grounds from the 'monstrous modified', then why don't you go crawling back there? There's no need to impose your irrational desire for unmodified evolution on me.

FTL: Ah yes, the restricting of wildlife's habitats. The ones you kick out have lots more space to go, I'm sure. Namely, others' regions. Ones that don't judge them sheerly for their genetics.

FTL: So much effort, all for naught. Tell me, is there any reason that you wish so for the eradication of genetic modification? I can understand curiosity, I can understand obligation, I can understand understand boredom. What I cannot understand is the pure vile hatred you seem to hold for what I spend my time doing.

FTL: I never claimed to be surprised when this strain of Rot appeared. I was prepared for it, I am handling it. You dare insult my knowledge of what I am doing like that? If anything, I'm disappointed in myself. Not surprised. Never surprised. Anyone messing with genetics should be fully prepared for Rot, and I failed in that regard. I fully accept the consequences of my actions, and I have taken the necessary measures. This will not be happening again, there is no reason for you to keep bringing up my stupidity.

[eternally-anomalous]

Oh really, more than the rot

And do you have an example of these glorious benefits that you've gained from your work?

No?

Helping everyone except those your modification your ecosystem destabilizes and all the creature that you havent changed, oh and you do realize that those precious genes you're modifying came from the natural evolutions

Go crawling back to my grounds

You must be awfully stupid for an iterator, do you not realize that I can do more than one thing at once

Even the ancients could work and talk

And I think you misunderstand what I mean by remove

I mean remove them from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death

you've gotten the rot several times? Sounds like incompetence to me

Maybe you should stop making creatures

For your own health of course

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Well, the survival of multiple species for one, giving them the resources to survive for longer than half a cycle. The creation of multiple species. The species that you oh-so-wish to study.

FTL: And where exactly is the benefit of your work?

FTL: Do you really think that I am enough of a fool to release creatures that would destabilise the ecosystem. Those are on a specific part of my grounds. (And before you mention it, I am well aware that I am a hypocrite.) The only ones I release are those with beneficial modifications, such as those improving their immune system. Besides, the ecosystem adapts. Maybe it is wrong of me to 'carelessly' throw about my ability to genetically modify. But I don't think so. There have been no long-term negative effects so far. And I don't think there ever will be.

FTL: Of course the genetics originate from natural evolution. That's why they're imperfect. Nature is so fickle.

FTL: No, of course I understand that. But why must you interfere with my work if you have your own little 'safe haven'? Perhaps you're just weak of mind, not able to accept the existence of modified creatures, and how they too, are alive. Natural evolution is in no way superiour to modification.

FTL: I accept the risks of my work as they come. I will not be giving this up for something as insignificant as the Rot. I may succumb to it in the end, but that does not matter. I will not be giving up my work for something as insignificant as you and your petty little pipe dreams of a natural evolution either.

[eternally-anomalous]

survival of multiple species? Surely you can't be so idotic as to think species that still exist today are completely unable to survive for more than half a cycle.

And where did you get this information, on your modification infested grounds? Full of red lizards and centipedes I'm sure

you do realize that creatures survived long before your existence and will continue after your sad, tragic, and completely unforseen death

And so you say creatures can't survive without and in the same breath say the ecosystem adapts!

Giving creatures stronger immune systems? And when the virus that can infect them kills everything else, then what will you do

Your argument is going in circles, or at least your insults are

You've called my goal petty at least twice

You could at least open a thesaurus

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Well, of course. There are no more species like that because I fixed them. Simple.

FTL: Red lizards and centipedes are dreadfully boring to modify, I do not have many of them. Why make a deadly creature even more deadly? There's no point to it. It's completely uninteresting.

FTL: So they will. But they'll be better than they were in their previous cycles because of my interference. Natural evolution will degrade my efforts over time, but it'll still be better that it ever would have been without me. My death will come eventually, as will yours, such is the inevitable death of all Iterators. I accept that, but I shall die better than I was at the start of my existence, knowing that my purpose was fulfilled.

FTL: Creatures are part of ecosystems, but they are not the same thing. The ecosystem as a whole adapts, but organisms in their singularity are weak to the throes of the food chain. And the food chain is a major part of an ecosystem, yes, but the improvement of these beings' lives is not my primary goal. It's just a beneficial side effect that I'm consistently pointing out. Ecosystems adapt, but creatures take a lot longer to do so, to their detriment.

FTL: If there's a virus going around that the one with the modified immune system can withstand but the others cannot, well, they'd all have died of it either way. It's just that this one can survive it.

FTL: Yes my argument is going in circles, mostly because you are simply not seeing my point. I know my work, and I defend it well. Petty is just simply the best word to describe you, you cannot blame me for continuously using it.

FTL: So I'll repeat it.

FTL: You are a petty, insignificant Iterator whose harassment is starting to grind on my nerves. You probably enjoy this, and you're happy to hear of my suffering. But I am not going to step down from my experiments and modifications just because you tell me to.

[eternally-anomalous]

There are no more species like that because they either evolved or died out, idiot

your involvement does not make a difference to every single creature out there, in fact it affects very few and you will die alone having failed to change anything in any meaningful manner as your creations fade back into the lineages they belonged to and your purpose will never be fulfilled, just as mine and everyone else's will not be fulfilled

and if the benefit of the individual creatures is not your goal, why brag about fixing them

Oh I won't argue with petty but insignificant? No. I daresay ive made more impact on the ecosystems in my local group than you ever will

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why must you continue to deny my involvement in that happening? I have recorded the decreasing rates of death in such lifeforms. I acknowledge that it wasn't all me, but to say that I am taking credit for natural evolution + selection is to just you stating that you're not capable of critical thinking.

FTL: I repeat: that does not really matter to me. However tiny it may become in the end, my involvement will be there forever, written down in genetics. They don't just suddenly revert like that, and they will show in the creatures' descendants.

FTL: If you're trying to belittle me and my actions, it's not really working. I know that influence will remain in the end, even if it is infinitesimally small. I know that my purpose will never be fulfilled, and I know that I will die alone. That is a fact of life an Iterator. I'm just one of the lucky few whose actual interest align with their purpose. I may fade into permanent unconsciousness alone with my purpose unfulfilled, but I'll have spent my entire time alive doing what I love. That alone is enough.

FTL: And I'm not bragging about my involvement, I'm just stating it as a beneficial side effect. Apologies if that was not conveyed properly. Yes, I fix them. Yes, I'm proud of that. But it is not a goal, it is simply a means to an end; that end being satisfying my curiosity and my secondary purpose. To create, modify, experiment upon creatures is the whole purpose I specifically was created (all Iterators are made to solve the Great Problem, but what differentiates Iterators from one another are our secondary puposes). The fixing creatures is just a beneficial means to an end, and if talking about it is what it takes to prove my whole existence not unnecessary, then so be it.

FTL: How about you turn your own argument about me being insignificant on yourself? Any efforts you've made to keep modified creatures out will proven inconsequential in the end as Iterators fall and your beloved natural evolution takes hold. If it started earlier for some creatures than others will make no difference. So if you dare say that my work is meaningless, try looking at your own work under the same lense. I think you'll find that the results are quite similar.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes, but the difference here is im not an ancient loving creature modifying egotistical and just rather stupid iterator

and what would rate of death matter if they just come back anyway, sure you are aware of the great cycle

or did the ancients not even give you that crucial piece of information when they built you, just as they obviously did not give you a great many other important things

and you are still working on the great problem? The irrelevant stupid thing they saddled us with

they are all gone now you know, so what's the point of working

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Once again, your arguments are redundant. Your insults are pointless, and one could easily describe you as a 'natural evolution supremacist, egotistical, and just rather stupid Iterator'. The only differences between you and I are that I modify creatures, you want the return of natural evolution, and that I don't go out of my way to harass those whose opinions and actions oppose mine.

FTL: And when did I ever say that I love the Ancients? They're just my creators that have laid out a set of purposes for me. Just because I strive to achieve those purposes does not mean that I'm happy with the way they treated us. Those purposes are the whole reason I exist, it is only right that I do my best to arrive at their conclusions.

FTL: No, of course I am aware of the Great Cycle. The rate of death happens to matter because I'm sure it's just not right to not be able to survive for a whole cycle. Rate of death is something that has always been catalogued, it has always been important in some fashion. Even if it serves no objective.

FTL: What would those 'great many other important things' they did not provide me with be? As far as I am aware, I have everything necessary so far, and nothing has been lacking. Actually, perhaps don't answer that question, I'm sure the reply will be uncreative and just something you wish you had.

FTL: The Great Problem has been reduced to a side project for me, as I'm sure it has been for many others. Of course I continue to work on it, if only to figure out if it is actually possible. Meanwhile, my secondary goal has become the thing I primarily concern myself with.

FTL: What is the point of working? What is the point of working? Have you been even comprehending everything I've been sending to you? Are you even capable of doing so? The point of working is so that there is some point to my existence; I am not going to allow myself to rot away in this isolated metallic reality with nothing to do. I do what I do because I enjoy it. Because it's why I'm here. Even if in the end there's no point to it - even if there's no point to anything - I'm still going to continue on. If you'd actually paid attention to my words and not just picked out the best points to worthlessly argue against, you'd know that.

[eternally-anomalous]

If i can't pick what points to argue then tell me how I should carry out an argument?

Say random things?

not even read your argument and just ramble in the hopes of countering your points?

I would respond to the rest of this but apparently that's not what you're supposed to do in this situation

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: What I'm saying is that you pick the points that you think you can confidently win against and refuse to acknowledge everything else. Perhaps I do the same thing, it is very easy to get blindsided by one's belief that they're right.

FTL: Although I suppose that is how an argument is supposed to work. Defend your stance the best you can, neglect all else in hopes your opponent won't push further within those areas.

FTL: What you're doing here is directing all attention to a single, not-very-important line. I do still stand by what I said though, even if replying too every single word would make this conversation somehow drag on for even longer. That line may go against how debates are supposed to work, but I still find it insulting.

FTL: In all honesty, I'd rather not be talking to you at all. But I'm sure that I've mentioned that before and that you're completely aware of that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Void damn it he's left me nothing to argue against with this statement

The point is to make the conversation drag on, whoever stops first looses after all

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Then I suggest you resign. I'm sure you have other people to harass, though you should look into leaving them alone as well. I'm not going to stop defending myself, and it appears that you have nothing left to throw at me. I hope you at least learned something of value from this all.

[eternally-anomalous]

The only thing of value I got out of this conversation was the entertainment of annoying you

a pretty valuable thing all in all

As for people to harass, I've actually found a few people that agree with my ideals

so not really doing that at the moment

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Unsurprising, that you'd gain nothing of actual value beyond entertainment from all this. I suppose that's only to be expected from people like you.

FTL: Hm. I'd say good for you, except that means that there is a chance that more like you will come crawling to my doorstep in order to degrade me. I am just going to hope that none of them are as extreme as you.

FTL: But in the end, that does free some Iterators from your botherings. Two sides to coin, afterall.

[eternally-anomalous]

probably won't be anyone else coming to harass you

Unfortunately

I am not the kind of person to lead what others would call a cult

And they all seem too nice to engage in a confrontation like this without you starting it

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I think you mean thankfully. Anyone who'd willingly follow you and repeat your actions is frankly, rather stupid.

FTL: I will not be starting any confrontations, as I'm sure you've guessed. I don't mind others having different ideals than I, that is just how things are. I don't go out of my way to attack them like you.

FTL: Everyone has their opinions and ideals, it's simply unjust to harass them for having said opinions. I very much know that

[eternally-anomalous]

You would say that

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, I very much would. And it is just basic decency to not harp upon others for their opinions. I'm sure you already know that what I say next is a pointed insult at your character and how said basic decency is not something you appear to have. I'll save myself the time from redundantly repeating it.

[eternally-anomalous]

How do you mess up modifying a creature so bad it not only dies but turns into the rot

That takes some major incompetence

-eternal anonaly

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FTL: And we've circled right back to the start.

FTL: The Rot kills any creature that has the misfortune of being its host. It's not my fault that it died, though it is my fault that my experiment resulted in the Rot.

FTL: That cyan lizard actually died after the Rot got created within it, which is highly unusual. Usually the death is instantaneous. Either way, the order of the words in your sentence is wrong. Actually that sentence itself it wrong. The part about its death shouldn't even be there, if a simple creature gets the Rot, it's dead. There's no way around it. Therefore that part of your sentence is redundant.

FTL: And you're right. It does take incompetence. I know that.

FTL: For the millionth time, we've already been over all this, Eternal Anomaly. Or are the last few cycles' worth of arguing just gone from your Memory Arrays?

[eternally-anomalous]

You were so boring I had to delete them to avoid ascending myself

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: How would you even manage to do so? I doubt that you of all people would be able to do what no one else has managed to.

FTL: If I'm truly that boring, then cease this conversation with me. Wait no, didn't you previously mention, several times, that I'm entertaining? Which one is it?

FTL: Hypocrite.

[eternally-anomalous]

Im not a hypocrite! Why does everyone keep calling me that!

... Oh by the way

if you ever see a slugcat-poleplant hybrid, throw it into the rot for me

youd be doing the world a favor

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Take a closer look at the things you do and say and how they contradict one another. If you had any critical thinking skills, you'd understand what everyone who's ever rightfully called you a hypocrite means.

FTL: Odd request, I will not be complying to it. What would a slugcat-poleplant hybrid even look like, where did this even come from?

[eternally-anomalous]

i would comment on how many times you've insulted my critical thinking skills and that you need to get a new criticism lest you repeat yourself again, but I deleted this conversation from my memory so I wouldn't know that

That.. creature is a vile abomination, does there need to be any other reason to kill it or to tell others to kill it

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I will repeat: I'll keep reusing my insults so long as they continue to apply to you. I do not think that it is highly likely that they'll cease to do that soon, though. And if you are going to delete parts of this conversation, why do you insist upon continuing it?

FTL: That creature... Significantly Important Utility. I've talked with her. I have also heard about about the results of your conversation with her. Cannot say that I didn't enjoy the information.

[eternally-anomalous]

have you ever heard of lying in order to insult someone.. no of course you haven't

...

WHAT

I AM GOING TO FORCEFULLY ASCEND THAT THING I AM GOING TO ..

...

no

overseer delete that bit

*ahem* that creature loves to tell lies and untruths

i would advise ignoring anything it says

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why would you lie in order to insult? The insult loses any value it has then as it is less grounded in reality. A coward's way out.

FTL: Your own Overseer didn't listen to you... Your reaction is funny though. Just confirms what I heard. Even if Significantly Important Utility did enjoy telling lies and untruths, I believe them over you. The fact that I caught the very end of that conversation myself also helps. Oh, to see you defeated by a slugcat. It's beautiful.

FTL: Any advice you ever give me, I will do the exact opposite of it (unless it's clear that you are using reserve psychology on me, obviously), you never have good ideas. To your information, Significantly Important Utility has given me a very interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators. Ah, but you wouldn't care, would you? What with your absurd hatred for others of your own kind, you'd only seek to destroy it.

[eternally-anomalous]

its not like we were seriously debating at that point

...you read my logs

Listen FTL, I am fine with being insulted, a murder attempt I would understand. But reading my fucking private conversation is too far

I don't do that to you

don't I deserve some basic privacy?

Aren't I still an iterator, a person, despite my opinions

I don't read your logs

I wouldn't insult you with the knowledge from those logs

Why would you do that to me

Ha. The only thing you could do for the good of all Iterators is die suddenly and painfully

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Apologies, but someone was bound to do it. It just so happened to be me, the Iterator who you've been fruitlessly arguing with for the past several cycles and have been aggravating during that time. That conversation was semi-public, I'm sure you knew that.

FTL: No, you do not deserve basic privacy, not really. Yes you are still an Iterator, but you have been needlessly harassing every single Iterator you could get into contact with for the past who-knows-how-long. It isn't even about your opinions, as I've stated several times, I respect your opinions. It's the fact that you go out of your way to provoke and pester both those whose opinions oppose your own or those who are simply existing and not doing anything relevant to said opinions. That is not something that is okay to do, no matter if you deem them irredeemable simply for existing.

FTL: You may not read my logs, and I do appreciate that. But I'm not the one who went out of my way to rag on someone who was simply warning the world of a potential threat for just doing his job. Others do read my logs. They're all public. I've grown used to it, and in all honesty? I expected that you'd do the same, and use what I say in those against me. You should not be surprised that my opinions of you are so low.

FTL: I was only doing what I deemed correct. I still do not see how it was not. You have been antagonising me, this was simply a retort. And it finally appears to be one that hit where it hurts.

FTL: And why would my death benefit all Iterators? I'd actually say that it's yours that would do that. If you'd like to know why, please reread the second paragraph of this message, preferably the entirety of this message while you're at it. Perhaps it'll finally drill into your memory arrays what I've been saying for however many of these messages.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh really. This whole conversation was all my fault.

Have you ever heard of the hang up or perhaps the block button? You could end your aggravation at any time. And yet you dont

You should have

If I don't deserve the right to privacy for the crime of being annoying, when why not make it so I really don't deserve it

Say ... Perhaps a count of mass murder

Is two people mass murder? No I need another one, three would count im sure

It would be a shame to kill the one who gave me the drones with which I'm planning to do it with but that would make it go smoother

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, it is all your fault. Why should I not defend myself? We wouldn't be here if you hadn't started it, and my simply not replying would not be a move that I am willing to take.

FTL: You are severely underestimating the impact your harassment has had on the people you've conversed with. It's not just 'being annoying'. I've explained it all before, I am not going to repeat myself.

FTL: Threaten me all you want. I do not have time for this anymore. I am in a state of potential crisis right now, I will not be entertaining your foolishness.

FTL: But I do have a question for you, as unlikely as it is that you will provide me with an answer. How do you 'remove [creatures] from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death'?

[eternally-anomalous]

well, ending it is always an option even if you don't want to take it

oh no did I hurt your feelings? Or waste your time? How tragic. How sad. Truly a huge impact on you. If it really matters so much then why do people still modify creatures?

did your rot join the cycle, and started coming back every time you destroy it? That would be a minor inconvenience

if you die from it, it would save me some work

What makes you think I would even tell you what time it is if you asked

I'm sure you're just dying to know my secret aren't you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why would I do that? That would be letting you win and would stoke your ego even more.

FTL: No, none of those. You have not had much impact on me beyond adding a small worry that there are more like you out there. I'm talking about others. Your impact on the Iterator populace has been overall negative, and while I'm sure you relish that fact, it does not remove the other fact that- I have no time for this. I have no time to write yet another explanation to you of how your idiotic actions make you deserving of everything you get. Just extrapolate from my sentiments this entire conversation. Though I do doubt you're capable of even something so basic.

FTL: Said minor inconvenience does threaten your life as well, you know. FTLR-3 is fully capable of destroying the landscape of this world we exist in, causing carnage - to wildlife and Iterators. It is crucial that I prevent that.

FTL: Unsurprising. Never expected that question to work, and I was right.

FTL: Feel free to not reply to this: I highly doubt I'd read your reply within the next few cycles. The only reason I even bothered to reply right now is because, well, maybe I'm petty too.

[eternally-anomalous]

you do know that rot can't reproduce outside a host

You should, you've gotten it what, three times?

As I'm not currently inside of your superstructure, I believe I'm safe from your little mistake

Although If it's so urgent that you are planning on putting it inside your poor dying neighbor just because xi has void fluid

Well, I might make a few precautions for myself but I certainly won't be helping you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I am now unfortunately back to continue this conversation. I will repeat myself because you appear to have an issue with reading everything that I say and properly understanding it: I continue this conversation out of a sense of obligation and perhaps even pride. I am well aware of the fact that I could theoretically end this, yet I continue to willingly play into your little self-entertainment endeavour. I am aware.

FTL: Yes, it is typical of Rot to not be able to spread outside of the Iterator that created it, but that is not always true. Especially when dealing with Moving Rots. It is a matter of whether the Rot is capable of adapting to sources of nutrients other than Iterators, which not many Rots are capable of doing, hence the assumption that it is true for all Rots. 'Rot' is merely an umbrella term for a vast amount of similar organisms; there are very, very few rules that fit every single lifeform that can fall under said umbrella.

FTL: ...Alright. So you finally did what I've been expecting. I... I am not surprised. Though the fact remains that what you're actually right for once. It is not a good thing, what I did. It is not a good thing that that was the only plan I could come up with. It is not a good thing that I was willing to carry it out.

FTL: But I will repeat myself as I have been having to do so often as of late: I know. Anything you could ever say that could truly hurt me? I know. I've thought it all before, I doubt you'd ever be able to come up with a truly harmful insult that I haven't long since accepted as a fact.

FTL: I did use xir situation to my advantage, yes. But once again, matter of necessity. Xi is beyond saving, and xi knows that. Still, using xim perhaps does make me a bad person, but as I've said, I know that. It's a tricky situation.

FTL: I will not be continuing to 'defend myself' or even talking about the situation. It's... I do not think you actually care at all about what happened, unsurprisingly. I do not blame you, why should you care? A quick underhanded insult was all that statement was. I do not have to explain myself and my actions to you.

FTL: I have been thinking over the past few cycles, if not actively so, as I was preoccupied with the crisis. I have many things I wish to say to you, mostly about how anything you could ever do to me is futile, and how I do not understand your aggression towards others of your own kind at all. I don't understand you at all, in fact. I suppose I could compare you to a logic puzzle with no logic behind it.

FTL: This conversation has been dragging on for far too long. Though, as stated earlier, I will not be the one to end it. I'm sure that you have no interest in what I have to say in the first place, but I'll admit, I do have nothing better to do right now.

FTL: All of this was to say that I don't fear you. I just do not understand you. You've made a largely negative impact on those who you have conversed with, and you revel in the infamy. Why? Though perhaps, I too, do not actually care about any supposed response to that question.

[eternally-anomalous]

If your so confused about me why not go read my logs again

im sure your answers are somewhere in those

Because that's surely the best way you could be spending your time right now

Not trying to stop your "world destroying threat" no the best thing to do is invade my privacy

For the second time

once again id like to ask, what negative effects do I inflict on people other than wasting their time

id love to know

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Still salty about that, I see. I have explained my reasoning behind my actions. What do you hope to achieve by continuously bringing it up? Besides being passive-aggressive. I do not regret what I did, and I still think that I was completely justified in not adhering to typical privacy guidelines.

FTL: And no, it is not the best thing I could be doing with my time. The whole situation with FTLR-3 is now over, and I am soon going to begin another project. I do have more important things to do rather than indulging in your wish for me to prove myself not being up to moral standards.

FTL: I must admit, you can consider that point in the argument defunct. I have no proof to back my statement, only the fact that whenever someone mentions you in conversations that I hold, their perception of you is always negative. I am sure that what you're doing has caused harm of some sort, but I have no evidence, nor do I, in truth, actually care enough to attempt to gather it. Yet I stand by that thought, even if it means nothing in the end.

[eternally-anomalous]

Funny how I have more morality than you, who supposedly is going to be the "grand savior" of all iterators, in that particular area

i hope your next project ends with you choking to death on the rot as it destroys you from the inside out

I hope its one of the slower varieties and it destroys whatever you use to modify creatures first so there's nothing you can do about it

I hope you collapse and have to watch your idiotic modified creatures eat what remains of your brain

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I never claimed to be some sort of 'grand saviour', as you put it. I was only fixing my own mistakes, which had put other Iterators in danger. Where did you even get the notion from? I understand that I may have phrased some things incorrectly, but I have never said anything along those lines. Does attempting to correct my blunders automatically make me some sort of worship-seeking figure?

FTL: Morality is not something that I particularly care about, no matter the picture of myself that my words may have previously painted. I only care about my experiments and trying to not have an overall negative effect on the Iterator populace. It's not a matter of seeking fame or being glorified for my actions. It's a matter of not making people's lives worse, and even that is not all that important to me. Even if that is perhaps not the way that my words have been understood.

FTL: Well. That's descriptive. Why do you wish so much harm upon me? But just so that you don't get your hopes up: it's unlikely that that would ever happen. I may be rushing headfirst into danger (as LIFEGIVER put it), but as I said in my first ever message to you, I know what I'm doing. Sorry, but that simply will not be happening.

[eternally-anomalous]

"interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators." Not a savior complex there, huh, because claiming your idea will benefit every single iterator out there is simply being humble

If morality is unimportant to you, why you do keep insulting mine, hypocrite

Oh, that's right, you don't care about your own death, you only care about not being purposeless

That would almost be enough to make me pity you, if I didn't hate you so much

Would someone who really knows what they are doing get the rot? Three times?

You're lying to someone and it's not just me

You should really try telling yourself the truth someday

And "knowing" what you're doing doesn't stop your supports from collapsing

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: That is a misunderstanding of what I meant. I was stating that as a beneficial side effect of the experiment, as it has been continuously pointed out to me that doing things only for myself is 'selfish' on some level. Though I do see how it could have been misunderstood as me thinking that I have the capability to 'save' all Iterators. No, that was not it. It could help a lot of Iterators, which I suppose would be good, but it's not the primary objective. The primary objective is seeing if what I'm trying to do is even possible. If it is, well. It's not like anyone would even want to utilise it.

FTL: Ah, but you see, unlike you I admit that I'm a hypocrite. I know that full well. Besides, the moral standards that I am not up to are in different areas than you. I don't harass people for no reason. I'm fine in that regard, you're not. Still, condemning you for that remains a hypocritical act. I will be continuing to do it though, because it is not a matter of morality. It's a matter of proving my point, I suppose.

FTL: Why would I be pitied for believing that? It's just a fact that I choose to acknowledge. I don't understand why others don't do the same and instead ignore it, but I'll let others do what they want. Perhaps they know something that I don't.

FTL: Yes, actually. If you put those three times into perspective of the numbers of experiments that I've done, those three times are naught but a drop in a sea. Statistically, I've done pretty well. Nothing similar to those three times will be happening again, because I can do a little something called learning. Learning from my mistakes, learning from what I've been told since then. If anything, I'm more prepared now than I was before.

[eternally-anomalous]

You seem to contradict yourself a lot "I don't want to help people but I'm helping everyone but I don't care about anyone other than myself" pick one and stick to it.

i do harass people for a reason actually, and that reason is to get them to stop making modified creatures

the things that everyone but you knows could fill your entire memory arrays

ah yes, the excellent strategy of giving your dying group member the rot

truly the best failsafe ever devised

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I can do both, you know. Just because I primarily am concerned with myself doesn't mean that I don't put some sort of thought towards helping others if it's possible and wouldn't drag me away from my work for too long. Perhaps contradictory, but so shall it be.

FTL: False. You also harass people just for the sake of it, even if they don't modify creatures. You enjoy the infamy for whatever reason. I have no power to stop you, and in reality? I've found that maybe I don't even particularly care. Yes, you're hurting people, but there isn't much that I could even do to stop you. And as I said, nor am I inclined to. I do not enjoy the fact that you do this, but. Well, in all honesty I have no justification.

FTL: I do suppose you're right about that, but the same goes for you. As it does for anyone else. Not even us Iterators are capable of knowing everything, even 'collective' knowledge. Once again, your point can easily be reversed upon you against your favour.

FTL: ...I will not be replying to your last comment, as per my previous statement of not doing so.

[eternally-anomalous]

You either help people or you don't

fine. I do harass those modified creatures that have access to communications as well, but those fall under the same umbrella as the people who make them. The infamy is just a nice bonus

But you don't know so many basic things. Things everyone else except you and maybe descent know

its sad really

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not necessarily. As I've been saying, my primary concern is myself, others are just a beneficial side effect that also acts as my secondary concern. Which leaves me in the middle, and exception to your false statement.

FTL: Still no point to harassing them, you are not going to convince anyone that you're correct if you go about acting like that.

FTL: I am inquiring as to what those things are. And I repeat that I'm sure that that statement applies to others as well. For example, everybody but you seems to know that you don't have to harass everyone you talk to just because they have differing opinions. Those with differing opinions can co-exist, and it still makes absolutely no sense to me as to why you even spend so much of your time doing something as pointless as this.

[eternally-anomalous]

No, im pretty sure that's how actions work, you help people or you don't, you can't half help someone

im not going to convince anyone anyway, why would you change all your goals and pastimes because someone asked nicely

at least this way I actually get some enjoyment out of it

things you don't know that everyone else does: 1.) Your purpose isn't everything 2.) Don't take stupid risks just to avoid feeling useless 3.) What they're saying about you behind your back

It takes about 5 minutes maximum to dictate all this. I wouldn't say that's such a massive amount of time

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, yes, with the way you're phrasing it, that is how that'd work. What I'm saying is that helping others is far from my primary concern, but still something that I do not let drift out of my periphery. A beneficial secondary side-effect that I would never work towards if it were a standalone thing, but still something that I prioritise over things I deem useless.

FTL: Then what's the point? To eliminate - or harass until they cease communications with you - every single other member of your kind whose opinions and actions disagree with your own? Rather drastic, I'd say.

FTL: The first two, I'll admit, I am not surprised at being mentioned, even though I still do not believe in them. But the latter, I've never heard of. Which I suppose is the whole point. I'd inquire as to what is being said, but I doubt that you'd ever answer, nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot that could be done in five minutes. Your loss though, I suppose.

[eternally-anomalous]

So you're just a mostly useless little bitch, so preoccupied with being useful you forget the whole meaning of usefulness is doing things for other people exclusively

cant even get usefulness right

Even if I was the nicest iterator ever, do you think people would willingly interact with a known murderer? The answer is no, by the way

like what? Kill a modified creature? Take care of my leeches? Manufacture something in accordance to my designated purpose?

Those all take longer than 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: It's not a matter of utility. It's a matter of fulfilling my purpose - whether I end up being useful or not. It's irrelevant if the things I do help others or not, that's not why I continue on. As previously stated, it's a side benefit. I fulfill my purpose out of obligation and the fact that doing so is something that I find rather interesting.

FTL: You wouldn't have gotten that reputation if you didn't harass people in the first place. Besides, I know that there's at least one person that willingly interacts with you. You've previously mentioned that there are others with similar ideals to your own, I'd think that they, at the very least, would be a contradiction to your statement. But that is besides the point, I still don't see the reasoning behind your actions - nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot you could get started on in those five minutes, and in the long run, five minutes could add up to a lot. But do what you wish with your time, it doesn't particularly matter, even if you do end up harassing others.

[eternally-anomalous]

Isnt the whole point of having a purpose to be useful

otherwise why even bother

Did you even read what I said? I said no-one would talk to a murderer, not people block me because I'm mean to them

And sure, some people do talk to me, but I was speaking in general, not including specific people

ah yes, I could finally beat that crossword puzzle, thank you so much for reminding me of all the wonderful and important tasks that can be undertaken in 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not to me, no. I suppose it's somewhat of a 'proving myself worthy of existence' thing, if you wish to phrase it that way. My purpose is why I was created, therefore I must fulfill it. The reason for me being designed for the purpose that I was is irrelevant - it only matters that it's the purpose I have.

FTL: I do believe that most Iterators don't even know that you're a murderer right away. Perhaps it's my lack of ability to keep up-to-date with the happenings of other Iterators, but I didn't know that you'd committed murder until you'd mentioned it. Either way, perhaps you're right. It doesn't really matter, does it? This is half-hypothetical; a waste of time.

FTL: You are very welcome, Eternal Anomaly.

[eternally-anomalous]

You should just give up on trying to do that

it will never happen

It does seem like most people don't know what I've done, which is honestly quite surprising to me, considering how glories was.. Ill spare you the details

whenever I need useless advice on how to spend my time, ill make sure to come ask you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why do you think that I'd care what you think? It does not matter to me whether or not you think that my continued fulfillment of my purpose is futile or not. Whether it'll 'happen or not' is irrelevant, any argument you have against what I am doing with my time is rather pointless. I simply don't care what you think. Of course, I'll continue to explain my reasoning - and that is the futile part, not that I still strive to achieve my purpose.

FTL: While this may be a bit surprising to you, Eternal Anomaly, but I do rather think that people don't particularly care. I don't think whether you're a murderer or not makes much difference in people's perceptions of you. I'll be honest though, I'm somewhat curious what drove you to commit murder, but I also don't care.

FTL: Considering how you think that I'm 'less than useless', I'm sure that any advice that I give you will also be perceived as such. Therefore, go right ahead. You could also solve a sudoku in five minutes, you know.

[eternally-anomalous]

If you don't care what I think, why are you still arguing with me

you say that, but I bring it up one measly little time on a server and they ban me

i could solve a sudoku in about 0.5 seconds, we all can, why even bother with those things

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I've said this before. Obligation, wasting your time, pride, perhaps some degree of amusement. Neither of us will win this conversation and we're not even arguing any more - just repeating things over and over. I'm not going to be the one to end this though, and I doubt that you will either. So we're just about stuck in this argument as we are stuck being conscious.

FTL: Perhaps a bit drastic on their part. But if someone already has negative preconceptions about you - which most people do, rightfully so - then they're not going to be surprised if they learn of your deeds. I sure wasn't.

FTL: Well that's 600 sudokus in five minutes. A true waste of time, but you probably don't have anything better to do.

[eternally-anomalous]

I wouldnt end it even if I could

honestly this argument is like a pet to me at this point.. More like a houseplant really

Still don't care for you though

i can be nice to people, as long as they aren't modified creature making scum like you

actually the better thing to do with that time is argue with you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: So you're literally incapable of ending this conversation? Interesting. But I suppose that that's one of the only things we agree on: that we're not ending this.

FTL: I suppose I see how that conception should come about. This is a thing that needs to be taken care of every so often, just getting it over and done with... I do see the parallels.

FTL: Neither do I, if it isn't clear already.

FTL: And you're back to insulting me and my life's work. Of course. How about you go reread the 6 535 words that I've written directed at you and reconsider doing that. There's no point to insulting me in that fashion. I've explained my reasoning to you, I see no flaws in my logic. I've heard your reasoning for arguing that natural evolution is superiour, and while I do not agree, your logic is pretty sound too. It's just redundant at this point to insult based on these opinions. Though I doubt that it was more than a half-hearted jab on your part. Still pointless.

FTL: It is just as much of a waste of time, so I suppose that you're correct there. Though that does equivalate this argument to ~600 sudokus. An accurate enough comparison, I'd say.

[eternally-anomalous]

what else should i insult then? Your boring personality? Your ugly puppet? Your creativity?

6535 words from you alone. at the end of this conversation we should sell it as a novel

It's certainly long enough

maybe ill organize my rarefaction cell collection in this time, I recently came into possession of new one

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: All of those are just as pointless. The first two are no fault of my own, and I've already explained how my work is creative, you're just unwilling to see it. A good insult has some foundation in reality while not being redundant or utilised before. I do believe that you've used up all the insults that fit those criteria. Do feel free to keep using them though, the more you repeat an insult, the more pointless it gets. Which is another point towards my status as a hypocrite, I suppose.

FTL: I suppose we could, though what's the point of selling it? Currency has lost any meaning it had long, long ago, even before our reign. Though I suppose it would be an interesting endeavour. Even if I do believe that anyone who wished to could read it right now.

FTL: Oh? Something to do with the whole Third Vast Attempt situation, I'd assume? Though I do wonder how many rarefaction cells you are even in possession of, if you claim it to be an entire 'collection'.a

[eternally-anomalous]

That was the point, you unobservant piece of slime mold

there. Was that a good one?

For fun? ...maybe more like a trade. you give me machine schematics and in exchange you get to fill your entire memory arrays with this conversation

yes, I took one of his rarefaction cells. Would have taken more, but lifegiver had already destroyed most of them

i currently have 13, no 14 now

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, that actually was a good one. If not for its basis in truth, but for its sheer absurdity. But what even is a slime mould? A lifeform that does not live within my regions? Most likely. It does sound like an insulting thing to be compared to. I am not one who enjoys being insulted, but it's a somewhat interesting thing, I suppose.

FTL: Perhaps. I would not take you up on that offer, and even if I were to, I'd be incapable of fulfilling my side of said deal. I have no schematics for machinery, nor any knowledge of machinery in general. You're asking the wrong Iterator. I think there might be someone with proficiency in that in the next Local Group over from mine, though I'm not too sure. But either way, why would I wish to cram the recitations of this argument into my memory arrays? It's rather pointless doing so, this recording is not going anywhere.

FTL: ...LIFEGIVER did what? I'd have thought that to be out of character for him. Interesting. Doesn't matter. Why do you even need a collection of such trophies? There's really not much to prove in that fashion.

[eternally-anomalous]

A slime mold is a nasty invasive creature to my regions that forces me to waste massive amounts of time eradicating it.

[FTL.png] [the picture is of a large sparkly pink mass with many pseudopods extending out from its center. Someone inexperienced with rot might mistake this for a strange variant of it]

im not offering it to you, I'm explaining my offer should anyone actually want to purchase this conversation to read

oh yes, livegiver used some kind of giant drill to dig a massive hole through TVA and destroy her rarefaction cells

Although when I left they were.. cuddling

Anyway, who said I'm trying to prove anything

Maybe I just enjoy collecting them

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Interesting... Such an odd creatures. I'll have to search through my files to see if I have anything on it, just for the sake of curiosity. Oh, I apparently do. I've never gotten around to fully examining all the files that I have access to. Do you annihilate these just because they're invasive?

FTL: Ah, I see. Apologies for misunderstanding. Though even then, that deal only benefits you, does it no? I do also participate in this conversation, you know. Unless you'd be publishing this without my knowledge, though that would not be something that'd last long.

FTL: ...Interesting. That is all I have to say about that, beyond it being rather odd. Doesn't particularly matter, I suppose. Still is odd.

FTL: Why even collect anything, there's not much point to it. But alright. Seems like a waste of rarefaction cells though, in my opinion. Surely they could be somehow put to better use than lying around. Though I suppose you don't care about that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes I do. Invasive species ruin my experiment just as much as modified creatures

..I actually have stuff that is personal to me, that I would not want just anyone to read without any benefits to me.. or at all,which is why I won't be going through with this plan, in the conversation

And what could people give to you, certainly nothing that would make your sad, miserable life any better

they could be used to fix myself, should any of my rarefaction cells break. You don't keep your spare parts inside an currently working machine, after all

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I see. I suppose that does make sense. What do you even classify as invasive? Species that didn't live in your regions at your inception? What about migratory or nomadic species? Perhaps the answer is obvious, but I don't see it, probably due to my lack of expertise in the area.

FTL: What have you said in this conversation that could be counted as personal? You've just been restating your opinions and arguing with me, from what I remember. Though there was the one incident, but that doesn't stand out all that much.

FTL: It's just that I don't need anything. I have my experiments that is all I require. Almost anything else is superficial and pointless, which I suppose is why you think my life is 'sad and miserable'. Matters of opinion and differences in lifestyle.

FTL: Makes sense. Desperate to keep yourself alive, aren't you? Though I suppose many are like that. Couldn't you figure out how to construct rarefaction cells yourself? Though I'm not too sure of your level of proficiency in mechanics and relevant things, but it does sound like a possible thing. Much less effort than stealing them. Whatever work, works, though.

[eternally-anomalous]

creatures that didn't live in my regions after the ancients left

my retaining wall keeps out migratory and nomadic species, so that's never been a problem

All of my conversations with anyone are personal and shouldn't be shared or read by anyone except the other person in the conversation

Maybe it didn't stand out to you, but anyone who'd be willing to read this is obviously looking for ammunition to use against me

.. you and descent really would love each other

You're both sad, miserable people who can't comprehend that there is anything outside of their work

Oh that was just a justification for you. I do it because it's fun. Just making them would be too easy, and pointless anyway, none of my rarefaction cells even show a hint of failure

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Ah right, the wall. You did mention it way at the start of this whole conversation, if I remember correctly. What is the wall even constructed out of? Is it even a real wall or some sort of generated repelling field?

FTL: I suppose that does make sense. Why are you so convinced that people would search for ammunition against you so actively? Unless you mean that no one would read through this whole mess unless they had a properly good reason to do so.

FTL: Who is this 'Descent'? And I don't know about them, but I do comprehend that there are things outside of work. I just prioritise my work over said things because it's more important. Not wanting to engage in something does not equate to lack of comprehension in regards to it. Maybe it doesn't really matter that my work is my purpose, I do enjoy it and the process. The fact that it's my purpose is a benefit that gives me another reason to continue it, a way to defend it, and well, it's my purpose. The fact that it's my purpose and the fact that I enjoy it are both positive side-effects of each other, though that may be a somewhat paradoxical statement.

FTL: There is no 'sadness' or 'misery' here, no matter how it may seem to you, for whatever reason. While it is true that I'd have carried on with my purpose even if I weren't lucky enough to enjoy it as I do, well. Perhaps then the 'sadness and misery' would appear, but that is not the case. I have everything I need.

FTL: Hm. I don't understand you. Why do things just for 'fun'? There always has to be some sort of motivation or purpose. Though I suppose that 'fun' itself could be the driving force behind an action, though it feels like a lacking one. It's something though, sure.

[eternally-anomalous]

And yes, it's a physical wall

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I don't even have the capability to drink anything at all. Nevermind the fact that I have no access to bleach.Though, as always, I doubt that that was sent with the intention to make me actually drink bleach, ignoring the fact that it is physically impossible for me to do so. Even if I wanted to for some reason. Which I do not, and never will, because it is impossible for me to wish to do so. Such a clear yet redundant show of malice.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. Pour bleach into your water supply

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I repeat, I have no access to bleach, nor the inclination to mix whatever hypothetical bleach I'd get ahold of into my water supply. Serves no purpose. Beyond the fact that my suffering would most likely amuse you, but I do not qualify that as a valid reason.

[eternally-anomalous]

I see..

Well, fortunately for you, I have a simple solution to your tragic predicament

ill bring the bleach and pour it in your water supply for you

And yes, I would find your suffering amusing

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: This is, what? The fourth? Fifth? Time that you have threatened to kill me. It's not even startling at this point - not that it ever was. Perhaps it was the first time, though I do doubt it. Either way, I suggest you cease making pointless threats because it is quite clear that you're not going to act upon them.

FTL: Though I suppose that even the act of threatening me also brings you amusement. Unsurprising.

[eternally-anomalous]

Would you like me to act on them

Though I'm quite busy now, I'm sure I can find a gap in my schedule that will allow me to.. probably just rip out your rarefaction cells.

I don't feel like bringing all that bleach to your regions

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: No, I would not. All I'm saying is that threats lose their vitriol and strength if over-utilised, in which case, what's the point of them? They lose all meaning and become just another part of the conversation. Which I suppose could increase the surprise and effect factors if you decide to act upon a threat despite all of the previous ones being pointless. But that's a whole other thing.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. what would you do if you found out an old enemy you thought had died was alive

And are you really still going on about my overuse of threats? I got it the first time, FTL

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I'm not too sure. I've never had any enemies, so I wouldn't really know. I suppose I'd either simply avoid them or, and this is actually the likelier option, I'd simply go back to interacting with them the way I did before their supposed death. The fact that they died and time passed doesn't truly play any factor, why change something that doesn't appear to be flawed?

FTL: Why are you even asking that? As much as I doubt you'll answer, it's worth asking.

FTL: Well you didn't seem to get it the first time, so I thought I'd repeat myself. And I was only justifying my words.

[eternally-anomalous]

..did you not hear me? I said enemy, not friend, not casual acquaintance, enemy

Someone you hate with every fiber of your being, and would never willingly speak to

But of course you wouldn't understand, you're FTL

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: And I will repeat that I have never had an enemy, so I do not know what I would do. I've never 'hated someone with every fiber of my being', I do not have the necessary experience that I'd need in order to provide an accurate response.

FTL: Even then, I'm sure that my response wouldn't change. Sure, they're back from the supposed dead now. There's nothing that I can do about it. If what I did previously was not talk to them, I'd do that. If what I did previously was attempt to murder them (unlikely that I'd do something like that, but it's a valid example), then that would be the course of action I take once more.

FTL: I just don't see why it would be much of a drastic change, beyond my hypothetical reaction to my hypothetical enemy returning. They'd be back, I'd get over it, and go back to hating them as I typically did. There's not much to it.

[eternally-anomalous]

Why did I even bother asking

You are incapable of giving a satisfying answer to anything

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I do not answer the way you do in hopes to achieve any sort of satisfaction. You asked for what I thought, I gave you my opinion. It's your issue if you're dissatisfied with my reply, is that not the case?

[eternally-anomalous]

No wonder you dont have any friends

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I do actually think that that statement of yours may be false. Considering the fact that Upsilon continuously addresses me as 'my friend' within our conversations, there is a reasonable conclusion that can be drawn that I have at least one friend. Your point is void.

[eternally-anomalous]

Upsilon? Of course you would talk with that logs reading idiot

Just because someone calls you that doesn't mean it's true

There are plenty of people out there who will address you with "my friend" while hating you

Oh, and I hope you weren't having any urgent conversations with him

It might take a while for him to respond

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Considering the fact that you were most likely not privy to my conversations with him, I highly doubt the idea that he hates me. Highly. Some people do actually like me (for whatever reasons), unlike you. Just because you hold a certain opinion doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else does, no matter how viable that idea may be. I've had to properly learn that recently, and I can say for sure that it does appear to be completely true.

FTL: ...I really would ask you why that is the case, but I don't think you'll respond truthfully. I suppose I'll just ask him later. Unless you chose to actually reply to the question that still remains within that sentence of mine, despite the fact that I have no directly asked it. If you do so, it'd be appreciated, as Upsilon is one of the few people that I actually... care about. But, I will repeat, I have my suspicions that you will not be gracing me with a proper response. Oh well.

[eternally-anomalous]

When you end up getting betrayed I expect a full apology and you to beg for my forgiveness

.. is this reverse psychology..

It won't work on me

You'll have to wait and find out

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I will actually agree to that, considering how highly improbable any sort of traitorous action is. Even if I would hate to stoop to such levels, I suppose that this reinforces the fact that I'm sure that nothing of the sort will happen.

FTL: It wasn't any sort of intentional reverse psychology. I was simply describing my motivations and thought around asking said question. It's always quite clear that you will never answer any of my questions (especially not truthfully). No matter how much I'd have appreciated an explanation, I knew that I wouldn't get one. Honestly, I've said things along those lines before, by your logic, so many things that I have written could be misconstrued at an attempt at reverse psychology. It never is, though. There's no point to it, you'd never answer either way.

FTL: And I have actually found out. While I do not know the context or situation of what happened, I will assume that you most likely had some hand in sending Upsilon a zipbomb, considering the way you phrased your statement of him not replying to me anytime soon (which was a falsity, in the end). Not surprised. But then again, I could be wrong. I only have circumstantial evidence. Either way, it doesn't particularly matter whether you were involved or not. The actual event is over now, not much can be done. And I am far from being a vengeful sort of being.

[eternally-anomalous]

And as part of the apology you mix bleach into your water supply

Do you always explain your entire thought process to everyone you talk to?

Technically my girlfri- dew sent it

I just made the .zip bomb

I would love to do worse to him though

snap his antennae at the very least

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I still have no access to any bleach, Eternal Anomaly. That's impossible for me to do, as I am unable to conjure bleach out of nowhere. Why are you so obsessed with bleach in the first place? It's far from special, even in terms of way to die. It's odd.

FTL: Well, yes. That way everything I say is justified and the way I reached my conclusion is obvious. Though I do not do it for everything, mostly just when I feel it's necessary. I do explain it a lot more during this... argument with you, mostly because my motivations should be very clear by now, yet I shall continue to reiterate them until you comprehend.

FTL: I see. Well, I was right, you were somehow involved in the act. I will not be replying to your further attempts to instigate anger in me. I will not be indulging you. What you wish to do doesn't matter, as you haven't done it.

[eternally-anomalous]

fine then. Put nonspecific chemicals that is sufficiently acidic or basic to damage you in your water supply

your motivations.. for this conversation or in general? Because you still haven't stated your motivations for continuing it

Did that upset you?

That was the least of the things I've thought of to do to him

Using those snapped antennae to stab him to death

Dissolving him in acid

Vivisecting him while he's still conscious

Don't worry, I'll send you his head when I'm done

of course this wouldn't kill him

I'd have to tear out his rarefaction cells

Or maybe figure out how to overheat him

Use him as a test subject to see how an iterator dies from bleach

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I will repeat what I said. You will not be able to provoke me this way. I don't care what messed-up scenarios you've created within your mind. That whole monologue means nothing to me; they're just empty threats. Just like every single other one. Your attempts are pitiful and meaningless, haven't you learned by now? Nothing you could say could ever affect me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i wish they could be anything but empty threats..

If it were up to me I'd have done one of them already

...

I highly doubt that

You almost seem angry right now

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Wishing that you could do something is very much not the same as actually doing it. Presenting a wish as truth and as an act you would commit in actuality (though I have no doubt that you'd be capable of something similar to what you've described) is simply spread falsehoods, one way or another.

FTL: I am not angry in any way. I'm just rather tired of your repetitiveness and inability to comprehend that what you're doing is pointless.

[eternally-anomalous]

i will do one of those, actually. have fun guessing which one

I'm the repetitive one in this conversation?

when I bring up any topic, your answer is always "I don't care"

You deserve to die from the rot? I don't care. You're disrupting my experiment? I don't care. I call you a sad, pathetic excuse for an Iterator who doesn't have the capacity to understand how miserable your life is and you still don't care

Your part in this conversation is just as pointless

And you're "tired" of it? Most people when saying that mean annoyed, which is a form of anger

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I never said I wasn't repetitive. Is it not well-established by now that I am a hypocrite? Either way, there remains a difference. The responses that I give that boil down to 'I don't care' are all in reply to different things. You keep reiterating the same concepts, which do get that same reply from me as the previous time.

FTL: Besides, why should I care? Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing to me, so why should anything you do or say matter either? That same idea applies to most Iterators out there - I can only name... approximately 5 (now 4, I suppose) that are exceptions. You're not special in any way, I see no reason to heed your opinions.

FTL: I will admit, I am not very good with emotions, but I am pretty sure that there is a divide between the two significant enough to warrant a differentiation in most cases. I believe that anger is... strong, some might say. Meanwhile, this is just... tiredness. One might even call it a form of apathy, though that would be a false statement considering that if it were, I wouldn't be writing this right now. And even then, apathy itself isn't all too surprising to be coming from me, it is what I feel towards many things.

[eternally-anomalous]

What concepts do you suggest I switch to

I'm sure you have some stupid suggestion for me

another I don't care...I thought you wouldn't do those in response to different concepts

Thats a sign of depression, you know

Looks like you're a sad, miserable iterator after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I'd rather not be talking to you at all. For once, I do not have any suggestions, because, well, why would I? I suppose the fact of the matter is that you have no new things to say, which in turn does mean that I have nothing new to say. That's how this works, its a loop - really, if you cycle if you will.

FTL: That was not an 'I don't care', that was my explanation of my lack of care. Your opinion doesn't matter in the slightest, which is the reason why I do not care. Perhaps it is an 'I don't care' in and of itself, though I would say that it's of a rather different sort, in some ways. The fact that you're not significant in any fashion is a valid reasoning for my indifference, I believe. Whether or not it proves itself just by being said is irrelevant.

FTL: You're actually the second Iterator who has told me that. Doesn't make it mean any more, as it doesn't particularly matter to me whether or not it's true. And when did you ever doubt that I was, according to you, a n'sad and miserable Iterator'? I will reiterate that I'm doing perfectly well, there is no sadness or misery here. Really, I don't even see the point of all this.

[eternally-anomalous]

...no new things to say..

hmmm..

I have more boyfriends than you

compared to most I'm actually quite significant. How many can say they've killed someone before?

sounds like denial

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I'm perfectly fine with my lack of boyfriends. It is my preferred state after all. Romantic relationships of any sort are incredibly contrived and I will never be engaging in one. So while I suppose that congratulations are in order for the fact that you've managed to get even one person to like you that much, the fact that you have more partners than me is a... good thing, I'd say. We were never even- ...Nevermind.

FTL: Ah, you see, I meant that you're not significant in most ways to me in particular, as that is whose opinion is being discussed here. I should have specified that. As you are correct, most do find you to be of significant note, due to things such as... Well your rarefaction cell collection, for one. I do not preoccupy myself with petty bothers such as that, so that renders you rather insignificant in terms of the impact you have upon me.

FTL: Honestly, one could call almost anything 'denial'. I am not in any sort of denial here. Perhaps to you it looks as if i am 'sad and miserable', but that is not the case. From my perspective, I am doing rather well. Which does not fit with your characterisation of me as 'sad and miserable'. Your opinion of me is inherently skewed no matter what, it doesn't hold much weight, especially when the fact that, as I keep saying, your opinion of me in general means absolutely nothing to me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i thought you wanted another topic, but then you reject the one I gave you. Do you want another one or not, make up your mind

and on that subject, you immediately bring it back to my murders in the next paragraph

...denial

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I was simply making a rebuttal to your statement, was I not? This is an argument afterall, no matter how atypical, drawn-out, and inconsistent it is. Choose whichever topic you like, just do not complain if my answers are almost always incredibly similar - them being otherwise would just be lying on my part, and I see no reason to do that.

FTL: I did not? I do not have any sort of clue as to what you are referring to. The only conceivable things that you could be referring to are only tangentially, at most, related to your crimes. Not solid ground to stand upon in a statement. Do correct me if I am wrong, though.

FTL: Fine, I'll play your game here. You too, are in denial. Are you not?

[eternally-anomalous]

You could at least try to not be a hypocrite. I know you're just going to say "i never pretended I wasnt a hypocrite" but you dont have to reinforce that notion constantly

you were using my rarefaction cell collection as a large part of your argument

in denial about what? Be more specific

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Greetings. I will not be explaining my absence to you, as I am sure that you don't particularly care. I shall not bore you with pointless explanations that would inevitably lead to you somehow twisting it all against my favour, no matter loose said arguments may be. Instead, let's carry on this futile charade as we typically do, shall we?

FTL: Well, why would I lie and deny - even if indirectly - my knowledge of my own tendencies? I'll admit, perhaps you're correct here, but I do still see the benefits of consistently preemptively pointing out my own hypocrisy. The fact that said hypocrisy should perhaps not exist in the first place is a different matter alltogether, considering the fact that I never know exactly may turn into hypocrisy at any given point. I can only make amends as I see fit as time passes.

FTL: I still do not see your point. What does it matter that I use said collection as a point? It is relevant, as we were speaking of others' perceptions of you and how said collection, said crimes, are considered significant by most, in contrast to my own discarding of them as anything grandiose due to their irrelevance to myself. I find that it fits perfectly well, as my own perceptions were not at major play within that phrase.

FTL: I'd say that you're in denial about being wrong in your mental constructions of myself. I know myself better than your do, and no matter how you perceive me, I know my mental state better than you do, even if you have more points of comparison. I'd also say that you're in denial about well, being in denial of course. I find that I'm perfectly correct here, mind you. Any further argument on your part essentially renders me correct. Though if all this were to devolve into such childish attempts at proof, that'd be devastating in some form of the term.

[eternally-anomalous]

Disappointing, I hoped you were dead

perhaps you could consider what you're about to say before you make yourself a hypocrite

of course, the inclusion of your entire thought process in every response makes you incapable of that, doesnt it

my point is by bringing up the collection, you're talking about my crimes, which you were supposedly So tired of talking about

you're in denial about your incorrectness

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, if I'd died, I'm sure you'd know of it by now. Somehow. Most likely because I'd have sent out a broadcast, as in most cases whatever kills me would be a foreseeable event that I'd have no way of preventing.

FTL: I suppose that I could, but why would I do that? A point, whatever point it is at the time, has to be proven. And if I already disapprove of things that are similar to what I myself do, then why not voice it? Though I will say that that has been happening much less as of late, which could be interpreted as a positive thing.

FTL: ...Incapable of what, exactly? To which paragraph is that even referring to? I'd assume the previous one, in which case I have already given my reasoning for including the essentials of my thought process.

FTL: I don't believe that I've ever said that I was tired of talking about your crimes specifically. Just tired of your repetitiveness and empty threats. Though I could be incorrect, I'm not exactly about to go searching through the logs of this argument.

FTL: And you're in denial about your own denial. It appears that we are at a... oh, what was the expression. Ah yes, a stalemate.

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The rot?

only people who created modified creatures get that

you deserve this

-eternal anomaly

RP:

FTL: My whole purpose (beyond solving the Great Problem, of course) was for genetic experimentation. I am merely doing my job. If I enjoy said job, well then that is just a bonus.

FTL: All creatures are modified. Modifying them further is not going to change that much.

FTL: The Rot is simply a hazard that I must face, whether I deserve it or not is irrelevant.

FTL: And if this time is the time that the Rot gets me? Then I do deserve it, for not being able to handle it. The creatures will be fine, they'll wake back up again. They'll adapt.

FTL: I know what I'm doing.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh sure all creatures are modified

But if you actively modify creatures now you're ruining my observations of the natural mutations and evolutions

And it's really annoying seeing all the unoriginal, uninteresting, derivative things you people come up with too

especially if your bad enough to get infected by rot

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: You see, that just so happens to not be an issue that I care to bother myself with. You can do your research, I do mine. If our goals contradict one another, once again, not my issue.

FTL: Natural mutation may be what is interesting to you, but I am occupied with modification. I could not care less what you are doing, you are not part of my Local Group, and I have no responsibility to you - whether that be stopping my experimentation, or aiding you in your foolish quest.

FTL: And yet you dare to insult my work. Perhaps it does seem to be uncreative, pointless, and harmful to you. But unlike you, I look beneath the surface of the creatures, at their genetics. And I fix them. I don't leave them to run themselves into the ground, as you seem happy to do. Everything I do is calculated.

FTL: The Rot was a mistake on my part, yes. But this isn't the first time I've had it - even if this is a more potent strain of it. I have the proper facilities to rid myself of it, and I warned those around me.

FTL: It is your own issue if you are so insistent on parading yourself around like some sort of saviour of these beings when you do less than even I do.

[eternally-anomalous]

my foolish quest hmm

And what have you got to show for your own work? The rot

For your information I do look at their genetics, how else am I supposed to properly document whether it is a mutation of an environmental change

as for fixing them ...what makes you think they need fixing

Your own pathetic ego that can't bear to see anything left untouched?

And doing little

... doing little

Do you have any IDEA how hard it is to keep modified creatures out of MY regions

Any TINY bit of understanding within you how much work it is to remove those when I do find them

No no of course not you just make creatures and release them into the wild, then act surprised when you mess it up and get the rot

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I have a lot more than the Rot to show for my work. Just because you're too blind to see it is no fault of mine.

FTL: And what purpose does all your cataloguing and monitoring serve? Other than feeding your incessant nagging that modified lifeforms are inferiour to 'natural' ones.

FTL: But in the end, everything needs fixing. I'm just willing to do the job. Nothing - no one - is perfect, yet I'm getting closer to attaining it. Perhaps it is my 'ego', as you so call it, but I'm just feeding my curiosity as you are feeding yours. And while I'm at it, I am helping everyone. I'm doing what I was built for.

FTL: Either way, in the end, the creatures adapt to their new selves - all while being better than they ever were.

FTL: If you're doing so much to 'protect' your grounds from the 'monstrous modified', then why don't you go crawling back there? There's no need to impose your irrational desire for unmodified evolution on me.

FTL: Ah yes, the restricting of wildlife's habitats. The ones you kick out have lots more space to go, I'm sure. Namely, others' regions. Ones that don't judge them sheerly for their genetics.

FTL: So much effort, all for naught. Tell me, is there any reason that you wish so for the eradication of genetic modification? I can understand curiosity, I can understand obligation, I can understand understand boredom. What I cannot understand is the pure vile hatred you seem to hold for what I spend my time doing.

FTL: I never claimed to be surprised when this strain of Rot appeared. I was prepared for it, I am handling it. You dare insult my knowledge of what I am doing like that? If anything, I'm disappointed in myself. Not surprised. Never surprised. Anyone messing with genetics should be fully prepared for Rot, and I failed in that regard. I fully accept the consequences of my actions, and I have taken the necessary measures. This will not be happening again, there is no reason for you to keep bringing up my stupidity.

[eternally-anomalous]

Oh really, more than the rot

And do you have an example of these glorious benefits that you've gained from your work?

No?

Helping everyone except those your modification your ecosystem destabilizes and all the creature that you havent changed, oh and you do realize that those precious genes you're modifying came from the natural evolutions

Go crawling back to my grounds

You must be awfully stupid for an iterator, do you not realize that I can do more than one thing at once

Even the ancients could work and talk

And I think you misunderstand what I mean by remove

I mean remove them from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death

you've gotten the rot several times? Sounds like incompetence to me

Maybe you should stop making creatures

For your own health of course

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, the survival of multiple species for one, giving them the resources to survive for longer than half a cycle. The creation of multiple species. The species that you oh-so-wish to study.

FTL: And where exactly is the benefit of your work?

FTL: Do you really think that I am enough of a fool to release creatures that would destabilise the ecosystem. Those are on a specific part of my grounds. (And before you mention it, I am well aware that I am a hypocrite.) The only ones I release are those with beneficial modifications, such as those improving their immune system. Besides, the ecosystem adapts. Maybe it is wrong of me to 'carelessly' throw about my ability to genetically modify. But I don't think so. There have been no long-term negative effects so far. And I don't think there ever will be.

FTL: Of course the genetics originate from natural evolution. That's why they're imperfect. Nature is so fickle.

FTL: No, of course I understand that. But why must you interfere with my work if you have your own little 'safe haven'? Perhaps you're just weak of mind, not able to accept the existence of modified creatures, and how they too, are alive. Natural evolution is in no way superiour to modification.

FTL: I accept the risks of my work as they come. I will not be giving this up for something as insignificant as the Rot. I may succumb to it in the end, but that does not matter. I will not be giving up my work for something as insignificant as you and your petty little pipe dreams of a natural evolution either.

[eternally-anomalous]

survival of multiple species? Surely you can't be so idotic as to think species that still exist today are completely unable to survive for more than half a cycle.

And where did you get this information, on your modification infested grounds? Full of red lizards and centipedes I'm sure

you do realize that creatures survived long before your existence and will continue after your sad, tragic, and completely unforseen death

And so you say creatures can't survive without and in the same breath say the ecosystem adapts!

Giving creatures stronger immune systems? And when the virus that can infect them kills everything else, then what will you do

Your argument is going in circles, or at least your insults are

You've called my goal petty at least twice

You could at least open a thesaurus

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, of course. There are no more species like that because I fixed them. Simple.

FTL: Red lizards and centipedes are dreadfully boring to modify, I do not have many of them. Why make a deadly creature even more deadly? There's no point to it. It's completely uninteresting.

FTL: So they will. But they'll be better than they were in their previous cycles because of my interference. Natural evolution will degrade my efforts over time, but it'll still be better that it ever would have been without me. My death will come eventually, as will yours, such is the inevitable death of all Iterators. I accept that, but I shall die better than I was at the start of my existence, knowing that my purpose was fulfilled.

FTL: Creatures are part of ecosystems, but they are not the same thing. The ecosystem as a whole adapts, but organisms in their singularity are weak to the throes of the food chain. And the food chain is a major part of an ecosystem, yes, but the improvement of these beings' lives is not my primary goal. It's just a beneficial side effect that I'm consistently pointing out. Ecosystems adapt, but creatures take a lot longer to do so, to their detriment.

FTL: If there's a virus going around that the one with the modified immune system can withstand but the others cannot, well, they'd all have died of it either way. It's just that this one can survive it.

FTL: Yes my argument is going in circles, mostly because you are simply not seeing my point. I know my work, and I defend it well. Petty is just simply the best word to describe you, you cannot blame me for continuously using it.

FTL: So I'll repeat it.

FTL: You are a petty, insignificant Iterator whose harassment is starting to grind on my nerves. You probably enjoy this, and you're happy to hear of my suffering. But I am not going to step down from my experiments and modifications just because you tell me to.

[eternally-anomalous]

There are no more species like that because they either evolved or died out, idiot

your involvement does not make a difference to every single creature out there, in fact it affects very few and you will die alone having failed to change anything in any meaningful manner as your creations fade back into the lineages they belonged to and your purpose will never be fulfilled, just as mine and everyone else's will not be fulfilled

and if the benefit of the individual creatures is not your goal, why brag about fixing them

Oh I won't argue with petty but insignificant? No. I daresay ive made more impact on the ecosystems in my local group than you ever will

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why must you continue to deny my involvement in that happening? I have recorded the decreasing rates of death in such lifeforms. I acknowledge that it wasn't all me, but to say that I am taking credit for natural evolution + selection is to just you stating that you're not capable of critical thinking.

FTL: I repeat: that does not really matter to me. However tiny it may become in the end, my involvement will be there forever, written down in genetics. They don't just suddenly revert like that, and they will show in the creatures' descendants.

FTL: If you're trying to belittle me and my actions, it's not really working. I know that influence will remain in the end, even if it is infinitesimally small. I know that my purpose will never be fulfilled, and I know that I will die alone. That is a fact of life an Iterator. I'm just one of the lucky few whose actual interest align with their purpose. I may fade into permanent unconsciousness alone with my purpose unfulfilled, but I'll have spent my entire time alive doing what I love. That alone is enough.

FTL: And I'm not bragging about my involvement, I'm just stating it as a beneficial side effect. Apologies if that was not conveyed properly. Yes, I fix them. Yes, I'm proud of that. But it is not a goal, it is simply a means to an end; that end being satisfying my curiosity and my secondary purpose. To create, modify, experiment upon creatures is the whole purpose I specifically was created (all Iterators are made to solve the Great Problem, but what differentiates Iterators from one another are our secondary puposes). The fixing creatures is just a beneficial means to an end, and if talking about it is what it takes to prove my whole existence not unnecessary, then so be it.

FTL: How about you turn your own argument about me being insignificant on yourself? Any efforts you've made to keep modified creatures out will proven inconsequential in the end as Iterators fall and your beloved natural evolution takes hold. If it started earlier for some creatures than others will make no difference. So if you dare say that my work is meaningless, try looking at your own work under the same lense. I think you'll find that the results are quite similar.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes, but the difference here is im not an ancient loving creature modifying egotistical and just rather stupid iterator

and what would rate of death matter if they just come back anyway, sure you are aware of the great cycle

or did the ancients not even give you that crucial piece of information when they built you, just as they obviously did not give you a great many other important things

and you are still working on the great problem? The irrelevant stupid thing they saddled us with

they are all gone now you know, so what's the point of working

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Once again, your arguments are redundant. Your insults are pointless, and one could easily describe you as a 'natural evolution supremacist, egotistical, and just rather stupid Iterator'. The only differences between you and I are that I modify creatures, you want the return of natural evolution, and that I don't go out of my way to harass those whose opinions and actions oppose mine.

FTL: And when did I ever say that I love the Ancients? They're just my creators that have laid out a set of purposes for me. Just because I strive to achieve those purposes does not mean that I'm happy with the way they treated us. Those purposes are the whole reason I exist, it is only right that I do my best to arrive at their conclusions.

FTL: No, of course I am aware of the Great Cycle. The rate of death happens to matter because I'm sure it's just not right to not be able to survive for a whole cycle. Rate of death is something that has always been catalogued, it has always been important in some fashion. Even if it serves no objective.

FTL: What would those 'great many other important things' they did not provide me with be? As far as I am aware, I have everything necessary so far, and nothing has been lacking. Actually, perhaps don't answer that question, I'm sure the reply will be uncreative and just something you wish you had.

FTL: The Great Problem has been reduced to a side project for me, as I'm sure it has been for many others. Of course I continue to work on it, if only to figure out if it is actually possible. Meanwhile, my secondary goal has become the thing I primarily concern myself with.

FTL: What is the point of working? What is the point of working? Have you been even comprehending everything I've been sending to you? Are you even capable of doing so? The point of working is so that there is some point to my existence; I am not going to allow myself to rot away in this isolated metallic reality with nothing to do. I do what I do because I enjoy it. Because it's why I'm here. Even if in the end there's no point to it - even if there's no point to anything - I'm still going to continue on. If you'd actually paid attention to my words and not just picked out the best points to worthlessly argue against, you'd know that.

[eternally-anomalous]

If i can't pick what points to argue then tell me how I should carry out an argument?

Say random things?

not even read your argument and just ramble in the hopes of countering your points?

I would respond to the rest of this but apparently that's not what you're supposed to do in this situation

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: What I'm saying is that you pick the points that you think you can confidently win against and refuse to acknowledge everything else. Perhaps I do the same thing, it is very easy to get blindsided by one's belief that they're right.

FTL: Although I suppose that is how an argument is supposed to work. Defend your stance the best you can, neglect all else in hopes your opponent won't push further within those areas.

FTL: What you're doing here is directing all attention to a single, not-very-important line. I do still stand by what I said though, even if replying too every single word would make this conversation somehow drag on for even longer. That line may go against how debates are supposed to work, but I still find it insulting.

FTL: In all honesty, I'd rather not be talking to you at all. But I'm sure that I've mentioned that before and that you're completely aware of that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Void damn it he's left me nothing to argue against with this statement

The point is to make the conversation drag on, whoever stops first looses after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Then I suggest you resign. I'm sure you have other people to harass, though you should look into leaving them alone as well. I'm not going to stop defending myself, and it appears that you have nothing left to throw at me. I hope you at least learned something of value from this all.

[eternally-anomalous]

The only thing of value I got out of this conversation was the entertainment of annoying you

a pretty valuable thing all in all

As for people to harass, I've actually found a few people that agree with my ideals

so not really doing that at the moment

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Unsurprising, that you'd gain nothing of actual value beyond entertainment from all this. I suppose that's only to be expected from people like you.

FTL: Hm. I'd say good for you, except that means that there is a chance that more like you will come crawling to my doorstep in order to degrade me. I am just going to hope that none of them are as extreme as you.

FTL: But in the end, that does free some Iterators from your botherings. Two sides to coin, afterall.

[eternally-anomalous]

probably won't be anyone else coming to harass you

Unfortunately

I am not the kind of person to lead what others would call a cult

And they all seem too nice to engage in a confrontation like this without you starting it

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I think you mean thankfully. Anyone who'd willingly follow you and repeat your actions is frankly, rather stupid.

FTL: I will not be starting any confrontations, as I'm sure you've guessed. I don't mind others having different ideals than I, that is just how things are. I don't go out of my way to attack them like you.

FTL: Everyone has their opinions and ideals, it's simply unjust to harass them for having said opinions. I very much know that

[eternally-anomalous]

You would say that

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, I very much would. And it is just basic decency to not harp upon others for their opinions. I'm sure you already know that what I say next is a pointed insult at your character and how said basic decency is not something you appear to have. I'll save myself the time from redundantly repeating it.

[eternally-anomalous]

How do you mess up modifying a creature so bad it not only dies but turns into the rot

That takes some major incompetence

-eternal anonaly

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RP:

FTL: And we've circled right back to the start.

FTL: The Rot kills any creature that has the misfortune of being its host. It's not my fault that it died, though it is my fault that my experiment resulted in the Rot.

FTL: That cyan lizard actually died after the Rot got created within it, which is highly unusual. Usually the death is instantaneous. Either way, the order of the words in your sentence is wrong. Actually that sentence itself it wrong. The part about its death shouldn't even be there, if a simple creature gets the Rot, it's dead. There's no way around it. Therefore that part of your sentence is redundant.

FTL: And you're right. It does take incompetence. I know that.

FTL: For the millionth time, we've already been over all this, Eternal Anomaly. Or are the last few cycles' worth of arguing just gone from your Memory Arrays?

[eternally-anomalous]

You were so boring I had to delete them to avoid ascending myself

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: How would you even manage to do so? I doubt that you of all people would be able to do what no one else has managed to.

FTL: If I'm truly that boring, then cease this conversation with me. Wait no, didn't you previously mention, several times, that I'm entertaining? Which one is it?

FTL: Hypocrite.

[eternally-anomalous]

Im not a hypocrite! Why does everyone keep calling me that!

... Oh by the way

if you ever see a slugcat-poleplant hybrid, throw it into the rot for me

youd be doing the world a favor

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Take a closer look at the things you do and say and how they contradict one another. If you had any critical thinking skills, you'd understand what everyone who's ever rightfully called you a hypocrite means.

FTL: Odd request, I will not be complying to it. What would a slugcat-poleplant hybrid even look like, where did this even come from?

[eternally-anomalous]

i would comment on how many times you've insulted my critical thinking skills and that you need to get a new criticism lest you repeat yourself again, but I deleted this conversation from my memory so I wouldn't know that

That.. creature is a vile abomination, does there need to be any other reason to kill it or to tell others to kill it

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I will repeat: I'll keep reusing my insults so long as they continue to apply to you. I do not think that it is highly likely that they'll cease to do that soon, though. And if you are going to delete parts of this conversation, why do you insist upon continuing it?

FTL: That creature... Significantly Important Utility. I've talked with her. I have also heard about about the results of your conversation with her. Cannot say that I didn't enjoy the information.

[eternally-anomalous]

have you ever heard of lying in order to insult someone.. no of course you haven't

...

WHAT

I AM GOING TO FORCEFULLY ASCEND THAT THING I AM GOING TO ..

...

no

overseer delete that bit

*ahem* that creature loves to tell lies and untruths

i would advise ignoring anything it says

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Why would you lie in order to insult? The insult loses any value it has then as it is less grounded in reality. A coward's way out.

FTL: Your own Overseer didn't listen to you... Your reaction is funny though. Just confirms what I heard. Even if Significantly Important Utility did enjoy telling lies and untruths, I believe them over you. The fact that I caught the very end of that conversation myself also helps. Oh, to see you defeated by a slugcat. It's beautiful.

FTL: Any advice you ever give me, I will do the exact opposite of it (unless it's clear that you are using reserve psychology on me, obviously), you never have good ideas. To your information, Significantly Important Utility has given me a very interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators. Ah, but you wouldn't care, would you? What with your absurd hatred for others of your own kind, you'd only seek to destroy it.

[eternally-anomalous]

its not like we were seriously debating at that point

...you read my logs

Listen FTL, I am fine with being insulted, a murder attempt I would understand. But reading my fucking private conversation is too far

I don't do that to you

don't I deserve some basic privacy?

Aren't I still an iterator, a person, despite my opinions

I don't read your logs

I wouldn't insult you with the knowledge from those logs

Why would you do that to me

Ha. The only thing you could do for the good of all Iterators is die suddenly and painfully

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Apologies, but someone was bound to do it. It just so happened to be me, the Iterator who you've been fruitlessly arguing with for the past several cycles and have been aggravating during that time. That conversation was semi-public, I'm sure you knew that.

FTL: No, you do not deserve basic privacy, not really. Yes you are still an Iterator, but you have been needlessly harassing every single Iterator you could get into contact with for the past who-knows-how-long. It isn't even about your opinions, as I've stated several times, I respect your opinions. It's the fact that you go out of your way to provoke and pester both those whose opinions oppose your own or those who are simply existing and not doing anything relevant to said opinions. That is not something that is okay to do, no matter if you deem them irredeemable simply for existing.

FTL: You may not read my logs, and I do appreciate that. But I'm not the one who went out of my way to rag on someone who was simply warning the world of a potential threat for just doing his job. Others do read my logs. They're all public. I've grown used to it, and in all honesty? I expected that you'd do the same, and use what I say in those against me. You should not be surprised that my opinions of you are so low.

FTL: I was only doing what I deemed correct. I still do not see how it was not. You have been antagonising me, this was simply a retort. And it finally appears to be one that hit where it hurts.

FTL: And why would my death benefit all Iterators? I'd actually say that it's yours that would do that. If you'd like to know why, please reread the second paragraph of this message, preferably the entirety of this message while you're at it. Perhaps it'll finally drill into your memory arrays what I've been saying for however many of these messages.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh really. This whole conversation was all my fault.

Have you ever heard of the hang up or perhaps the block button? You could end your aggravation at any time. And yet you dont

You should have

If I don't deserve the right to privacy for the crime of being annoying, when why not make it so I really don't deserve it

Say ... Perhaps a count of mass murder

Is two people mass murder? No I need another one, three would count im sure

It would be a shame to kill the one who gave me the drones with which I'm planning to do it with but that would make it go smoother

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, it is all your fault. Why should I not defend myself? We wouldn't be here if you hadn't started it, and my simply not replying would not be a move that I am willing to take.

FTL: You are severely underestimating the impact your harassment has had on the people you've conversed with. It's not just 'being annoying'. I've explained it all before, I am not going to repeat myself.

FTL: Threaten me all you want. I do not have time for this anymore. I am in a state of potential crisis right now, I will not be entertaining your foolishness.

FTL: But I do have a question for you, as unlikely as it is that you will provide me with an answer. How do you 'remove [creatures] from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death'?

[eternally-anomalous]

well, ending it is always an option even if you don't want to take it

oh no did I hurt your feelings? Or waste your time? How tragic. How sad. Truly a huge impact on you. If it really matters so much then why do people still modify creatures?

did your rot join the cycle, and started coming back every time you destroy it? That would be a minor inconvenience

if you die from it, it would save me some work

What makes you think I would even tell you what time it is if you asked

I'm sure you're just dying to know my secret aren't you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why would I do that? That would be letting you win and would stoke your ego even more.

FTL: No, none of those. You have not had much impact on me beyond adding a small worry that there are more like you out there. I'm talking about others. Your impact on the Iterator populace has been overall negative, and while I'm sure you relish that fact, it does not remove the other fact that- I have no time for this. I have no time to write yet another explanation to you of how your idiotic actions make you deserving of everything you get. Just extrapolate from my sentiments this entire conversation. Though I do doubt you're capable of even something so basic.

FTL: Said minor inconvenience does threaten your life as well, you know. FTLR-3 is fully capable of destroying the landscape of this world we exist in, causing carnage - to wildlife and Iterators. It is crucial that I prevent that.

FTL: Unsurprising. Never expected that question to work, and I was right.

FTL: Feel free to not reply to this: I highly doubt I'd read your reply within the next few cycles. The only reason I even bothered to reply right now is because, well, maybe I'm petty too.

[eternally-anomalous]

you do know that rot can't reproduce outside a host

You should, you've gotten it what, three times?

As I'm not currently inside of your superstructure, I believe I'm safe from your little mistake

Although If it's so urgent that you are planning on putting it inside your poor dying neighbor just because xi has void fluid

Well, I might make a few precautions for myself but I certainly won't be helping you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I am now unfortunately back to continue this conversation. I will repeat myself because you appear to have an issue with reading everything that I say and properly understanding it: I continue this conversation out of a sense of obligation and perhaps even pride. I am well aware of the fact that I could theoretically end this, yet I continue to willingly play into your little self-entertainment endeavour. I am aware.

FTL: Yes, it is typical of Rot to not be able to spread outside of the Iterator that created it, but that is not always true. Especially when dealing with Moving Rots. It is a matter of whether the Rot is capable of adapting to sources of nutrients other than Iterators, which not many Rots are capable of doing, hence the assumption that it is true for all Rots. 'Rot' is merely an umbrella term for a vast amount of similar organisms; there are very, very few rules that fit every single lifeform that can fall under said umbrella.

FTL: ...Alright. So you finally did what I've been expecting. I... I am not surprised. Though the fact remains that what you're actually right for once. It is not a good thing, what I did. It is not a good thing that that was the only plan I could come up with. It is not a good thing that I was willing to carry it out.

FTL: But I will repeat myself as I have been having to do so often as of late: I know. Anything you could ever say that could truly hurt me? I know. I've thought it all before, I doubt you'd ever be able to come up with a truly harmful insult that I haven't long since accepted as a fact.

FTL: I did use xir situation to my advantage, yes. But once again, matter of necessity. Xi is beyond saving, and xi knows that. Still, using xim perhaps does make me a bad person, but as I've said, I know that. It's a tricky situation.

FTL: I will not be continuing to 'defend myself' or even talking about the situation. It's... I do not think you actually care at all about what happened, unsurprisingly. I do not blame you, why should you care? A quick underhanded insult was all that statement was. I do not have to explain myself and my actions to you.

FTL: I have been thinking over the past few cycles, if not actively so, as I was preoccupied with the crisis. I have many things I wish to say to you, mostly about how anything you could ever do to me is futile, and how I do not understand your aggression towards others of your own kind at all. I don't understand you at all, in fact. I suppose I could compare you to a logic puzzle with no logic behind it.

FTL: This conversation has been dragging on for far too long. Though, as stated earlier, I will not be the one to end it. I'm sure that you have no interest in what I have to say in the first place, but I'll admit, I do have nothing better to do right now.

FTL: All of this was to say that I don't fear you. I just do not understand you. You've made a largely negative impact on those who you have conversed with, and you revel in the infamy. Why? Though perhaps, I too, do not actually care about any supposed response to that question.

[eternally-anomalous]

If your so confused about me why not go read my logs again

im sure your answers are somewhere in those

Because that's surely the best way you could be spending your time right now

Not trying to stop your "world destroying threat" no the best thing to do is invade my privacy

For the second time

once again id like to ask, what negative effects do I inflict on people other than wasting their time

id love to know

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Still salty about that, I see. I have explained my reasoning behind my actions. What do you hope to achieve by continuously bringing it up? Besides being passive-aggressive. I do not regret what I did, and I still think that I was completely justified in not adhering to typical privacy guidelines.

FTL: And no, it is not the best thing I could be doing with my time. The whole situation with FTLR-3 is now over, and I am soon going to begin another project. I do have more important things to do rather than indulging in your wish for me to prove myself not being up to moral standards.

FTL: I must admit, you can consider that point in the argument defunct. I have no proof to back my statement, only the fact that whenever someone mentions you in conversations that I hold, their perception of you is always negative. I am sure that what you're doing has caused harm of some sort, but I have no evidence, nor do I, in truth, actually care enough to attempt to gather it. Yet I stand by that thought, even if it means nothing in the end.

[eternally-anomalous]

Funny how I have more morality than you, who supposedly is going to be the "grand savior" of all iterators, in that particular area

i hope your next project ends with you choking to death on the rot as it destroys you from the inside out

I hope its one of the slower varieties and it destroys whatever you use to modify creatures first so there's nothing you can do about it

I hope you collapse and have to watch your idiotic modified creatures eat what remains of your brain

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I never claimed to be some sort of 'grand saviour', as you put it. I was only fixing my own mistakes, which had put other Iterators in danger. Where did you even get the notion from? I understand that I may have phrased some things incorrectly, but I have never said anything along those lines. Does attempting to correct my blunders automatically make me some sort of worship-seeking figure?

FTL: Morality is not something that I particularly care about, no matter the picture of myself that my words may have previously painted. I only care about my experiments and trying to not have an overall negative effect on the Iterator populace. It's not a matter of seeking fame or being glorified for my actions. It's a matter of not making people's lives worse, and even that is not all that important to me. Even if that is perhaps not the way that my words have been understood.

FTL: Well. That's descriptive. Why do you wish so much harm upon me? But just so that you don't get your hopes up: it's unlikely that that would ever happen. I may be rushing headfirst into danger (as LIFEGIVER put it), but as I said in my first ever message to you, I know what I'm doing. Sorry, but that simply will not be happening.

[eternally-anomalous]

"interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators." Not a savior complex there, huh, because claiming your idea will benefit every single iterator out there is simply being humble

If morality is unimportant to you, why you do keep insulting mine, hypocrite

Oh, that's right, you don't care about your own death, you only care about not being purposeless

That would almost be enough to make me pity you, if I didn't hate you so much

Would someone who really knows what they are doing get the rot? Three times?

You're lying to someone and it's not just me

You should really try telling yourself the truth someday

And "knowing" what you're doing doesn't stop your supports from collapsing

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: That is a misunderstanding of what I meant. I was stating that as a beneficial side effect of the experiment, as it has been continuously pointed out to me that doing things only for myself is 'selfish' on some level. Though I do see how it could have been misunderstood as me thinking that I have the capability to 'save' all Iterators. No, that was not it. It could help a lot of Iterators, which I suppose would be good, but it's not the primary objective. The primary objective is seeing if what I'm trying to do is even possible. If it is, well. It's not like anyone would even want to utilise it.

FTL: Ah, but you see, unlike you I admit that I'm a hypocrite. I know that full well. Besides, the moral standards that I am not up to are in different areas than you. I don't harass people for no reason. I'm fine in that regard, you're not. Still, condemning you for that remains a hypocritical act. I will be continuing to do it though, because it is not a matter of morality. It's a matter of proving my point, I suppose.

FTL: Why would I be pitied for believing that? It's just a fact that I choose to acknowledge. I don't understand why others don't do the same and instead ignore it, but I'll let others do what they want. Perhaps they know something that I don't.

FTL: Yes, actually. If you put those three times into perspective of the numbers of experiments that I've done, those three times are naught but a drop in a sea. Statistically, I've done pretty well. Nothing similar to those three times will be happening again, because I can do a little something called learning. Learning from my mistakes, learning from what I've been told since then. If anything, I'm more prepared now than I was before.

[eternally-anomalous]

You seem to contradict yourself a lot "I don't want to help people but I'm helping everyone but I don't care about anyone other than myself" pick one and stick to it.

i do harass people for a reason actually, and that reason is to get them to stop making modified creatures

the things that everyone but you knows could fill your entire memory arrays

ah yes, the excellent strategy of giving your dying group member the rot

truly the best failsafe ever devised

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I can do both, you know. Just because I primarily am concerned with myself doesn't mean that I don't put some sort of thought towards helping others if it's possible and wouldn't drag me away from my work for too long. Perhaps contradictory, but so shall it be.

FTL: False. You also harass people just for the sake of it, even if they don't modify creatures. You enjoy the infamy for whatever reason. I have no power to stop you, and in reality? I've found that maybe I don't even particularly care. Yes, you're hurting people, but there isn't much that I could even do to stop you. And as I said, nor am I inclined to. I do not enjoy the fact that you do this, but. Well, in all honesty I have no justification.

FTL: I do suppose you're right about that, but the same goes for you. As it does for anyone else. Not even us Iterators are capable of knowing everything, even 'collective' knowledge. Once again, your point can easily be reversed upon you against your favour.

FTL: ...I will not be replying to your last comment, as per my previous statement of not doing so.

[eternally-anomalous]

You either help people or you don't

fine. I do harass those modified creatures that have access to communications as well, but those fall under the same umbrella as the people who make them. The infamy is just a nice bonus

But you don't know so many basic things. Things everyone else except you and maybe descent know

its sad really

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not necessarily. As I've been saying, my primary concern is myself, others are just a beneficial side effect that also acts as my secondary concern. Which leaves me in the middle, and exception to your false statement.

FTL: Still no point to harassing them, you are not going to convince anyone that you're correct if you go about acting like that.

FTL: I am inquiring as to what those things are. And I repeat that I'm sure that that statement applies to others as well. For example, everybody but you seems to know that you don't have to harass everyone you talk to just because they have differing opinions. Those with differing opinions can co-exist, and it still makes absolutely no sense to me as to why you even spend so much of your time doing something as pointless as this.

[eternally-anomalous]

No, im pretty sure that's how actions work, you help people or you don't, you can't half help someone

im not going to convince anyone anyway, why would you change all your goals and pastimes because someone asked nicely

at least this way I actually get some enjoyment out of it

things you don't know that everyone else does: 1.) Your purpose isn't everything 2.) Don't take stupid risks just to avoid feeling useless 3.) What they're saying about you behind your back

It takes about 5 minutes maximum to dictate all this. I wouldn't say that's such a massive amount of time

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, yes, with the way you're phrasing it, that is how that'd work. What I'm saying is that helping others is far from my primary concern, but still something that I do not let drift out of my periphery. A beneficial secondary side-effect that I would never work towards if it were a standalone thing, but still something that I prioritise over things I deem useless.

FTL: Then what's the point? To eliminate - or harass until they cease communications with you - every single other member of your kind whose opinions and actions disagree with your own? Rather drastic, I'd say.

FTL: The first two, I'll admit, I am not surprised at being mentioned, even though I still do not believe in them. But the latter, I've never heard of. Which I suppose is the whole point. I'd inquire as to what is being said, but I doubt that you'd ever answer, nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot that could be done in five minutes. Your loss though, I suppose.

[eternally-anomalous]

So you're just a mostly useless little bitch, so preoccupied with being useful you forget the whole meaning of usefulness is doing things for other people exclusively

cant even get usefulness right

Even if I was the nicest iterator ever, do you think people would willingly interact with a known murderer? The answer is no, by the way

like what? Kill a modified creature? Take care of my leeches? Manufacture something in accordance to my designated purpose?

Those all take longer than 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: It's not a matter of utility. It's a matter of fulfilling my purpose - whether I end up being useful or not. It's irrelevant if the things I do help others or not, that's not why I continue on. As previously stated, it's a side benefit. I fulfill my purpose out of obligation and the fact that doing so is something that I find rather interesting.

FTL: You wouldn't have gotten that reputation if you didn't harass people in the first place. Besides, I know that there's at least one person that willingly interacts with you. You've previously mentioned that there are others with similar ideals to your own, I'd think that they, at the very least, would be a contradiction to your statement. But that is besides the point, I still don't see the reasoning behind your actions - nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot you could get started on in those five minutes, and in the long run, five minutes could add up to a lot. But do what you wish with your time, it doesn't particularly matter, even if you do end up harassing others.

[eternally-anomalous]

Isnt the whole point of having a purpose to be useful

otherwise why even bother

Did you even read what I said? I said no-one would talk to a murderer, not people block me because I'm mean to them

And sure, some people do talk to me, but I was speaking in general, not including specific people

ah yes, I could finally beat that crossword puzzle, thank you so much for reminding me of all the wonderful and important tasks that can be undertaken in 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not to me, no. I suppose it's somewhat of a 'proving myself worthy of existence' thing, if you wish to phrase it that way. My purpose is why I was created, therefore I must fulfill it. The reason for me being designed for the purpose that I was is irrelevant - it only matters that it's the purpose I have.

FTL: I do believe that most Iterators don't even know that you're a murderer right away. Perhaps it's my lack of ability to keep up-to-date with the happenings of other Iterators, but I didn't know that you'd committed murder until you'd mentioned it. Either way, perhaps you're right. It doesn't really matter, does it? This is half-hypothetical; a waste of time.

FTL: You are very welcome, Eternal Anomaly.

[eternally-anomalous]

You should just give up on trying to do that

it will never happen

It does seem like most people don't know what I've done, which is honestly quite surprising to me, considering how glories was.. Ill spare you the details

whenever I need useless advice on how to spend my time, ill make sure to come ask you

-eternal anomaly

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RP

FTL: Why do you think that I'd care what you think? It does not matter to me whether or not you think that my continued fulfillment of my purpose is futile or not. Whether it'll 'happen or not' is irrelevant, any argument you have against what I am doing with my time is rather pointless. I simply don't care what you think. Of course, I'll continue to explain my reasoning - and that is the futile part, not that I still strive to achieve my purpose.

FTL: While this may be a bit surprising to you, Eternal Anomaly, but I do rather think that people don't particularly care. I don't think whether you're a murderer or not makes much difference in people's perceptions of you. I'll be honest though, I'm somewhat curious what drove you to commit murder, but I also don't care.

FTL: Considering how you think that I'm 'less than useless', I'm sure that any advice that I give you will also be perceived as such. Therefore, go right ahead. You could also solve a sudoku in five minutes, you know.

[eternally-anomalous]

If you don't care what I think, why are you still arguing with me

you say that, but I bring it up one measly little time on a server and they ban me

i could solve a sudoku in about 0.5 seconds, we all can, why even bother with those things

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I've said this before. Obligation, wasting your time, pride, perhaps some degree of amusement. Neither of us will win this conversation and we're not even arguing any more - just repeating things over and over. I'm not going to be the one to end this though, and I doubt that you will either. So we're just about stuck in this argument as we are stuck being conscious.

FTL: Perhaps a bit drastic on their part. But if someone already has negative preconceptions about you - which most people do, rightfully so - then they're not going to be surprised if they learn of your deeds. I sure wasn't.

FTL: Well that's 600 sudokus in five minutes. A true waste of time, but you probably don't have anything better to do.

[eternally-anomalous]

I wouldnt end it even if I could

honestly this argument is like a pet to me at this point.. More like a houseplant really

Still don't care for you though

i can be nice to people, as long as they aren't modified creature making scum like you

actually the better thing to do with that time is argue with you

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: So you're literally incapable of ending this conversation? Interesting. But I suppose that that's one of the only things we agree on: that we're not ending this.

FTL: I suppose I see how that conception should come about. This is a thing that needs to be taken care of every so often, just getting it over and done with... I do see the parallels.

FTL: Neither do I, if it isn't clear already.

FTL: And you're back to insulting me and my life's work. Of course. How about you go reread the 6 535 words that I've written directed at you and reconsider doing that. There's no point to insulting me in that fashion. I've explained my reasoning to you, I see no flaws in my logic. I've heard your reasoning for arguing that natural evolution is superiour, and while I do not agree, your logic is pretty sound too. It's just redundant at this point to insult based on these opinions. Though I doubt that it was more than a half-hearted jab on your part. Still pointless.

FTL: It is just as much of a waste of time, so I suppose that you're correct there. Though that does equivalate this argument to ~600 sudokus. An accurate enough comparison, I'd say.

[eternally-anomalous]

what else should i insult then? Your boring personality? Your ugly puppet? Your creativity?

6535 words from you alone. at the end of this conversation we should sell it as a novel

It's certainly long enough

maybe ill organize my rarefaction cell collection in this time, I recently came into possession of new one

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: All of those are just as pointless. The first two are no fault of my own, and I've already explained how my work is creative, you're just unwilling to see it. A good insult has some foundation in reality while not being redundant or utilised before. I do believe that you've used up all the insults that fit those criteria. Do feel free to keep using them though, the more you repeat an insult, the more pointless it gets. Which is another point towards my status as a hypocrite, I suppose.

FTL: I suppose we could, though what's the point of selling it? Currency has lost any meaning it had long, long ago, even before our reign. Though I suppose it would be an interesting endeavour. Even if I do believe that anyone who wished to could read it right now.

FTL: Oh? Something to do with the whole Third Vast Attempt situation, I'd assume? Though I do wonder how many rarefaction cells you are even in possession of, if you claim it to be an entire 'collection'.a

[eternally-anomalous]

That was the point, you unobservant piece of slime mold

there. Was that a good one?

For fun? ...maybe more like a trade. you give me machine schematics and in exchange you get to fill your entire memory arrays with this conversation

yes, I took one of his rarefaction cells. Would have taken more, but lifegiver had already destroyed most of them

i currently have 13, no 14 now

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, that actually was a good one. If not for its basis in truth, but for its sheer absurdity. But what even is a slime mould? A lifeform that does not live within my regions? Most likely. It does sound like an insulting thing to be compared to. I am not one who enjoys being insulted, but it's a somewhat interesting thing, I suppose.

FTL: Perhaps. I would not take you up on that offer, and even if I were to, I'd be incapable of fulfilling my side of said deal. I have no schematics for machinery, nor any knowledge of machinery in general. You're asking the wrong Iterator. I think there might be someone with proficiency in that in the next Local Group over from mine, though I'm not too sure. But either way, why would I wish to cram the recitations of this argument into my memory arrays? It's rather pointless doing so, this recording is not going anywhere.

FTL: ...LIFEGIVER did what? I'd have thought that to be out of character for him. Interesting. Doesn't matter. Why do you even need a collection of such trophies? There's really not much to prove in that fashion.

[eternally-anomalous]

A slime mold is a nasty invasive creature to my regions that forces me to waste massive amounts of time eradicating it.

[FTL.png] [the picture is of a large sparkly pink mass with many pseudopods extending out from its center. Someone inexperienced with rot might mistake this for a strange variant of it]

im not offering it to you, I'm explaining my offer should anyone actually want to purchase this conversation to read

oh yes, livegiver used some kind of giant drill to dig a massive hole through TVA and destroy her rarefaction cells

Although when I left they were.. cuddling

Anyway, who said I'm trying to prove anything

Maybe I just enjoy collecting them

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Interesting... Such an odd creatures. I'll have to search through my files to see if I have anything on it, just for the sake of curiosity. Oh, I apparently do. I've never gotten around to fully examining all the files that I have access to. Do you annihilate these just because they're invasive?

FTL: Ah, I see. Apologies for misunderstanding. Though even then, that deal only benefits you, does it no? I do also participate in this conversation, you know. Unless you'd be publishing this without my knowledge, though that would not be something that'd last long.

FTL: ...Interesting. That is all I have to say about that, beyond it being rather odd. Doesn't particularly matter, I suppose. Still is odd.

FTL: Why even collect anything, there's not much point to it. But alright. Seems like a waste of rarefaction cells though, in my opinion. Surely they could be somehow put to better use than lying around. Though I suppose you don't care about that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes I do. Invasive species ruin my experiment just as much as modified creatures

..I actually have stuff that is personal to me, that I would not want just anyone to read without any benefits to me.. or at all,which is why I won't be going through with this plan, in the conversation

And what could people give to you, certainly nothing that would make your sad, miserable life any better

they could be used to fix myself, should any of my rarefaction cells break. You don't keep your spare parts inside an currently working machine, after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I see. I suppose that does make sense. What do you even classify as invasive? Species that didn't live in your regions at your inception? What about migratory or nomadic species? Perhaps the answer is obvious, but I don't see it, probably due to my lack of expertise in the area.

FTL: What have you said in this conversation that could be counted as personal? You've just been restating your opinions and arguing with me, from what I remember. Though there was the one incident, but that doesn't stand out all that much.

FTL: It's just that I don't need anything. I have my experiments that is all I require. Almost anything else is superficial and pointless, which I suppose is why you think my life is 'sad and miserable'. Matters of opinion and differences in lifestyle.

FTL: Makes sense. Desperate to keep yourself alive, aren't you? Though I suppose many are like that. Couldn't you figure out how to construct rarefaction cells yourself? Though I'm not too sure of your level of proficiency in mechanics and relevant things, but it does sound like a possible thing. Much less effort than stealing them. Whatever work, works, though.

[eternally-anomalous]

creatures that didn't live in my regions after the ancients left

my retaining wall keeps out migratory and nomadic species, so that's never been a problem

All of my conversations with anyone are personal and shouldn't be shared or read by anyone except the other person in the conversation

Maybe it didn't stand out to you, but anyone who'd be willing to read this is obviously looking for ammunition to use against me

.. you and descent really would love each other

You're both sad, miserable people who can't comprehend that there is anything outside of their work

Oh that was just a justification for you. I do it because it's fun. Just making them would be too easy, and pointless anyway, none of my rarefaction cells even show a hint of failure

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Ah right, the wall. You did mention it way at the start of this whole conversation, if I remember correctly. What is the wall even constructed out of? Is it even a real wall or some sort of generated repelling field?

FTL: I suppose that does make sense. Why are you so convinced that people would search for ammunition against you so actively? Unless you mean that no one would read through this whole mess unless they had a properly good reason to do so.

FTL: Who is this 'Descent'? And I don't know about them, but I do comprehend that there are things outside of work. I just prioritise my work over said things because it's more important. Not wanting to engage in something does not equate to lack of comprehension in regards to it. Maybe it doesn't really matter that my work is my purpose, I do enjoy it and the process. The fact that it's my purpose is a benefit that gives me another reason to continue it, a way to defend it, and well, it's my purpose. The fact that it's my purpose and the fact that I enjoy it are both positive side-effects of each other, though that may be a somewhat paradoxical statement.

FTL: There is no 'sadness' or 'misery' here, no matter how it may seem to you, for whatever reason. While it is true that I'd have carried on with my purpose even if I weren't lucky enough to enjoy it as I do, well. Perhaps then the 'sadness and misery' would appear, but that is not the case. I have everything I need.

FTL: Hm. I don't understand you. Why do things just for 'fun'? There always has to be some sort of motivation or purpose. Though I suppose that 'fun' itself could be the driving force behind an action, though it feels like a lacking one. It's something though, sure.

[eternally-anomalous]

And yes, it's a physical wall

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I don't even have the capability to drink anything at all. Nevermind the fact that I have no access to bleach.Though, as always, I doubt that that was sent with the intention to make me actually drink bleach, ignoring the fact that it is physically impossible for me to do so. Even if I wanted to for some reason. Which I do not, and never will, because it is impossible for me to wish to do so. Such a clear yet redundant show of malice.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. Pour bleach into your water supply

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I repeat, I have no access to bleach, nor the inclination to mix whatever hypothetical bleach I'd get ahold of into my water supply. Serves no purpose. Beyond the fact that my suffering would most likely amuse you, but I do not qualify that as a valid reason.

[eternally-anomalous]

I see..

Well, fortunately for you, I have a simple solution to your tragic predicament

ill bring the bleach and pour it in your water supply for you

And yes, I would find your suffering amusing

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: This is, what? The fourth? Fifth? Time that you have threatened to kill me. It's not even startling at this point - not that it ever was. Perhaps it was the first time, though I do doubt it. Either way, I suggest you cease making pointless threats because it is quite clear that you're not going to act upon them.

FTL: Though I suppose that even the act of threatening me also brings you amusement. Unsurprising.

[eternally-anomalous]

Would you like me to act on them

Though I'm quite busy now, I'm sure I can find a gap in my schedule that will allow me to.. probably just rip out your rarefaction cells.

I don't feel like bringing all that bleach to your regions

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: No, I would not. All I'm saying is that threats lose their vitriol and strength if over-utilised, in which case, what's the point of them? They lose all meaning and become just another part of the conversation. Which I suppose could increase the surprise and effect factors if you decide to act upon a threat despite all of the previous ones being pointless. But that's a whole other thing.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. what would you do if you found out an old enemy you thought had died was alive

And are you really still going on about my overuse of threats? I got it the first time, FTL

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I'm not too sure. I've never had any enemies, so I wouldn't really know. I suppose I'd either simply avoid them or, and this is actually the likelier option, I'd simply go back to interacting with them the way I did before their supposed death. The fact that they died and time passed doesn't truly play any factor, why change something that doesn't appear to be flawed?

FTL: Why are you even asking that? As much as I doubt you'll answer, it's worth asking.

FTL: Well you didn't seem to get it the first time, so I thought I'd repeat myself. And I was only justifying my words.

[eternally-anomalous]

..did you not hear me? I said enemy, not friend, not casual acquaintance, enemy

Someone you hate with every fiber of your being, and would never willingly speak to

But of course you wouldn't understand, you're FTL

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: And I will repeat that I have never had an enemy, so I do not know what I would do. I've never 'hated someone with every fiber of my being', I do not have the necessary experience that I'd need in order to provide an accurate response.

FTL: Even then, I'm sure that my response wouldn't change. Sure, they're back from the supposed dead now. There's nothing that I can do about it. If what I did previously was not talk to them, I'd do that. If what I did previously was attempt to murder them (unlikely that I'd do something like that, but it's a valid example), then that would be the course of action I take once more.

FTL: I just don't see why it would be much of a drastic change, beyond my hypothetical reaction to my hypothetical enemy returning. They'd be back, I'd get over it, and go back to hating them as I typically did. There's not much to it.

[eternally-anomalous]

Why did I even bother asking

You are incapable of giving a satisfying answer to anything

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I do not answer the way you do in hopes to achieve any sort of satisfaction. You asked for what I thought, I gave you my opinion. It's your issue if you're dissatisfied with my reply, is that not the case?

[eternally-anomalous]

No wonder you dont have any friends

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I do actually think that that statement of yours may be false. Considering the fact that Upsilon continuously addresses me as 'my friend' within our conversations, there is a reasonable conclusion that can be drawn that I have at least one friend. Your point is void.

[eternally-anomalous]

Upsilon? Of course you would talk with that logs reading idiot

Just because someone calls you that doesn't mean it's true

There are plenty of people out there who will address you with "my friend" while hating you

Oh, and I hope you weren't having any urgent conversations with him

It might take a while for him to respond

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: Considering the fact that you were most likely not privy to my conversations with him, I highly doubt the idea that he hates me. Highly. Some people do actually like me (for whatever reasons), unlike you. Just because you hold a certain opinion doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else does, no matter how viable that idea may be. I've had to properly learn that recently, and I can say for sure that it does appear to be completely true.

FTL: ...I really would ask you why that is the case, but I don't think you'll respond truthfully. I suppose I'll just ask him later. Unless you chose to actually reply to the question that still remains within that sentence of mine, despite the fact that I have no directly asked it. If you do so, it'd be appreciated, as Upsilon is one of the few people that I actually... care about. But, I will repeat, I have my suspicions that you will not be gracing me with a proper response. Oh well.

[eternally-anomalous]

When you end up getting betrayed I expect a full apology and you to beg for my forgiveness

.. is this reverse psychology..

It won't work on me

You'll have to wait and find out

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I will actually agree to that, considering how highly improbable any sort of traitorous action is. Even if I would hate to stoop to such levels, I suppose that this reinforces the fact that I'm sure that nothing of the sort will happen.

FTL: It wasn't any sort of intentional reverse psychology. I was simply describing my motivations and thought around asking said question. It's always quite clear that you will never answer any of my questions (especially not truthfully). No matter how much I'd have appreciated an explanation, I knew that I wouldn't get one. Honestly, I've said things along those lines before, by your logic, so many things that I have written could be misconstrued at an attempt at reverse psychology. It never is, though. There's no point to it, you'd never answer either way.

FTL: And I have actually found out. While I do not know the context or situation of what happened, I will assume that you most likely had some hand in sending Upsilon a zipbomb, considering the way you phrased your statement of him not replying to me anytime soon (which was a falsity, in the end). Not surprised. But then again, I could be wrong. I only have circumstantial evidence. Either way, it doesn't particularly matter whether you were involved or not. The actual event is over now, not much can be done. And I am far from being a vengeful sort of being.

[eternally-anomalous]

And as part of the apology you mix bleach into your water supply

Do you always explain your entire thought process to everyone you talk to?

Technically my girlfri- dew sent it

I just made the .zip bomb

I would love to do worse to him though

snap his antennae at the very least

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I still have no access to any bleach, Eternal Anomaly. That's impossible for me to do, as I am unable to conjure bleach out of nowhere. Why are you so obsessed with bleach in the first place? It's far from special, even in terms of way to die. It's odd.

FTL: Well, yes. That way everything I say is justified and the way I reached my conclusion is obvious. Though I do not do it for everything, mostly just when I feel it's necessary. I do explain it a lot more during this... argument with you, mostly because my motivations should be very clear by now, yet I shall continue to reiterate them until you comprehend.

FTL: I see. Well, I was right, you were somehow involved in the act. I will not be replying to your further attempts to instigate anger in me. I will not be indulging you. What you wish to do doesn't matter, as you haven't done it.

[eternally-anomalous]

fine then. Put nonspecific chemicals that is sufficiently acidic or basic to damage you in your water supply

your motivations.. for this conversation or in general? Because you still haven't stated your motivations for continuing it

Did that upset you?

That was the least of the things I've thought of to do to him

Using those snapped antennae to stab him to death

Dissolving him in acid

Vivisecting him while he's still conscious

Don't worry, I'll send you his head when I'm done

of course this wouldn't kill him

I'd have to tear out his rarefaction cells

Or maybe figure out how to overheat him

Use him as a test subject to see how an iterator dies from bleach

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I will repeat what I said. You will not be able to provoke me this way. I don't care what messed-up scenarios you've created within your mind. That whole monologue means nothing to me; they're just empty threats. Just like every single other one. Your attempts are pitiful and meaningless, haven't you learned by now? Nothing you could say could ever affect me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i wish they could be anything but empty threats..

If it were up to me I'd have done one of them already

...

I highly doubt that

You almost seem angry right now

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: Wishing that you could do something is very much not the same as actually doing it. Presenting a wish as truth and as an act you would commit in actuality (though I have no doubt that you'd be capable of something similar to what you've described) is simply spread falsehoods, one way or another.

FTL: I am not angry in any way. I'm just rather tired of your repetitiveness and inability to comprehend that what you're doing is pointless.

[eternally-anomalous]

i will do one of those, actually. have fun guessing which one

I'm the repetitive one in this conversation?

when I bring up any topic, your answer is always "I don't care"

You deserve to die from the rot? I don't care. You're disrupting my experiment? I don't care. I call you a sad, pathetic excuse for an Iterator who doesn't have the capacity to understand how miserable your life is and you still don't care

Your part in this conversation is just as pointless

And you're "tired" of it? Most people when saying that mean annoyed, which is a form of anger

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I never said I wasn't repetitive. Is it not well-established by now that I am a hypocrite? Either way, there remains a difference. The responses that I give that boil down to 'I don't care' are all in reply to different things. You keep reiterating the same concepts, which do get that same reply from me as the previous time.

FTL: Besides, why should I care? Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing to me, so why should anything you do or say matter either? That same idea applies to most Iterators out there - I can only name... approximately 5 (now 4, I suppose) that are exceptions. You're not special in any way, I see no reason to heed your opinions.

FTL: I will admit, I am not very good with emotions, but I am pretty sure that there is a divide between the two significant enough to warrant a differentiation in most cases. I believe that anger is... strong, some might say. Meanwhile, this is just... tiredness. One might even call it a form of apathy, though that would be a false statement considering that if it were, I wouldn't be writing this right now. And even then, apathy itself isn't all too surprising to be coming from me, it is what I feel towards many things.

[eternally-anomalous]

What concepts do you suggest I switch to

I'm sure you have some stupid suggestion for me

another I don't care...I thought you wouldn't do those in response to different concepts

Thats a sign of depression, you know

Looks like you're a sad, miserable iterator after all

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I'd rather not be talking to you at all. For once, I do not have any suggestions, because, well, why would I? I suppose the fact of the matter is that you have no new things to say, which in turn does mean that I have nothing new to say. That's how this works, its a loop - really, if you cycle if you will.

FTL: That was not an 'I don't care', that was my explanation of my lack of care. Your opinion doesn't matter in the slightest, which is the reason why I do not care. Perhaps it is an 'I don't care' in and of itself, though I would say that it's of a rather different sort, in some ways. The fact that you're not significant in any fashion is a valid reasoning for my indifference, I believe. Whether or not it proves itself just by being said is irrelevant.

FTL: You're actually the second Iterator who has told me that. Doesn't make it mean any more, as it doesn't particularly matter to me whether or not it's true. And when did you ever doubt that I was, according to you, a n'sad and miserable Iterator'? I will reiterate that I'm doing perfectly well, there is no sadness or misery here. Really, I don't even see the point of all this.

[eternally-anomalous]

...no new things to say..

hmmm..

I have more boyfriends than you

compared to most I'm actually quite significant. How many can say they've killed someone before?

sounds like denial

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I'm perfectly fine with my lack of boyfriends. It is my preferred state after all. Romantic relationships of any sort are incredibly contrived and I will never be engaging in one. So while I suppose that congratulations are in order for the fact that you've managed to get even one person to like you that much, the fact that you have more partners than me is a... good thing, I'd say. We were never even- ...Nevermind.

FTL: Ah, you see, I meant that you're not significant in most ways to me in particular, as that is whose opinion is being discussed here. I should have specified that. As you are correct, most do find you to be of significant note, due to things such as... Well your rarefaction cell collection, for one. I do not preoccupy myself with petty bothers such as that, so that renders you rather insignificant in terms of the impact you have upon me.

FTL: Honestly, one could call almost anything 'denial'. I am not in any sort of denial here. Perhaps to you it looks as if i am 'sad and miserable', but that is not the case. From my perspective, I am doing rather well. Which does not fit with your characterisation of me as 'sad and miserable'. Your opinion of me is inherently skewed no matter what, it doesn't hold much weight, especially when the fact that, as I keep saying, your opinion of me in general means absolutely nothing to me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i thought you wanted another topic, but then you reject the one I gave you. Do you want another one or not, make up your mind

and on that subject, you immediately bring it back to my murders in the next paragraph

...denial

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I was simply making a rebuttal to your statement, was I not? This is an argument afterall, no matter how atypical, drawn-out, and inconsistent it is. Choose whichever topic you like, just do not complain if my answers are almost always incredibly similar - them being otherwise would just be lying on my part, and I see no reason to do that.

FTL: I did not? I do not have any sort of clue as to what you are referring to. The only conceivable things that you could be referring to are only tangentially, at most, related to your crimes. Not solid ground to stand upon in a statement. Do correct me if I am wrong, though.

FTL: Fine, I'll play your game here. You too, are in denial. Are you not?

[eternally-anomalous]

You could at least try to not be a hypocrite. I know you're just going to say "i never pretended I wasnt a hypocrite" but you dont have to reinforce that notion constantly

you were using my rarefaction cell collection as a large part of your argument

in denial about what? Be more specific

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: Greetings. I will not be explaining my absence to you, as I am sure that you don't particularly care. I shall not bore you with pointless explanations that would inevitably lead to you somehow twisting it all against my favour, no matter loose said arguments may be. Instead, let's carry on this futile charade as we typically do, shall we?

FTL: Well, why would I lie and deny - even if indirectly - my knowledge of my own tendencies? I'll admit, perhaps you're correct here, but I do still see the benefits of consistently preemptively pointing out my own hypocrisy. The fact that said hypocrisy should perhaps not exist in the first place is a different matter alltogether, considering the fact that I never know exactly may turn into hypocrisy at any given point. I can only make amends as I see fit as time passes.

FTL: I still do not see your point. What does it matter that I use said collection as a point? It is relevant, as we were speaking of others' perceptions of you and how said collection, said crimes, are considered significant by most, in contrast to my own discarding of them as anything grandiose due to their irrelevance to myself. I find that it fits perfectly well, as my own perceptions were not at major play within that phrase.

FTL: I'd say that you're in denial about being wrong in your mental constructions of myself. I know myself better than your do, and no matter how you perceive me, I know my mental state better than you do, even if you have more points of comparison. I'd also say that you're in denial about well, being in denial of course. I find that I'm perfectly correct here, mind you. Any further argument on your part essentially renders me correct. Though if all this were to devolve into such childish attempts at proof, that'd be devastating in some form of the term.

[finely-tuned-line]

[LIVE BROADCAST]

ONE-WAY AUTHENTICATED - Finely-Tuned Line [@FINELY-TUNED-LINE]; Unknown participant

---

: are you aware of how sluggy yoops is

: he got all of his instincts from quiet for . no reason...

: give him a pearl and he will eat it.

: ....that was a joke. neither of them do that.

RP:

FTL: ...Hello.

FTL: No, I was not aware of any of that. I suppose that's interesting though. I would question the reason why it is supposedly as you say, but instead I shall inquire the purpose of even telling me of this. Is this important in any way, or is this merely a curious tidbit of information that you decided to share?

FTL: Though curious information it is indeed...

[oceanremnants]

: i thought it would be funny to tell his only friend one of his many weaknesses

: go throw a ball of yarn at him or something.

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: Since I am, as you pointed out, his friend, there is no need for me to know his weaknesses? I'd only need those if I were to betray him or backstab him in some sort of manner. Which I very much am not going to do, as that is the furthest thing from my truly non-malicious intentions. Really. I simply see no reason for me to know this, as vaguely interesting as it is. It's just not important.

FTL: And where would I even get a ball of yarn? Honestly, why do others keep telling me to acquire objects that I am incapable of acquiring. It's rather annoying, on some level. Either way, I'd still not do that, as I see no reason to. Especially as I'd never throw anything at him in the first place.

[finely-tuned-line]

[LIVE BROADCAST]

ONE-WAY AUTHENTICATED - Finely-Tuned Line [@FINELY-TUNED-LINE]; Unknown participant

---

: are you aware of how sluggy yoops is

: he got all of his instincts from quiet for . no reason...

: give him a pearl and he will eat it.

: ....that was a joke. neither of them do that.

RP:

FTL: ...Hello.

FTL: No, I was not aware of any of that. I suppose that's interesting though. I would question the reason why it is supposedly as you say, but instead I shall inquire the purpose of even telling me of this. Is this important in any way, or is this merely a curious tidbit of information that you decided to share?

FTL: Though curious information it is indeed...

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

PRIVATE TRANSMISSION

EP: Just checking that you're still alright.

FTL: Yes, I am. There is no need to worry. You'd have heard of it by now if something went wrong with me.

EP: Okay. Alright. Sorry, I'm just... on edge. What with...

FTL: Songs of the Negative Sunlight?

EP: Yeah.

FTL: Understandable. I do not condemn you for checking on me. Your concern is... appreciated.

EP: Of course, you're my brother!

EP: Also, what did you mean by saying that I'd have heard of it if something went wrong with you?

FTL: Ah, well. You were the one who contacted Upsilon in order to inform him of my incapacitation, correct? He is currently here, I'd imagine that he would most likely notify you if something went terribly wrong. Not that it will because I am functional.

EP: Right. That is indeed correct... Wait, what do you mean he's currently there

FTL: Upsilon is part of a group of autonomous Iterators.

EP: Autonomous Iterators. Really.

FTL: I am being completely serious, I do not joke around.

EP: Of course, of course... Are you sure though??

FTL: Yes I am, Echoes of a Paradox. We are holding an in-person conversation even now as you and I converse via typical means. I am just as astonished as you are.

EP: Huh. Well you learn something new each cycle, I suppose.

EP: Was he the one... de-incapacitate you?

EP: I could have phrased that better.

FTL: No. There was an odd batch of spider-like miniature robots each approximately three-quarters the size of my puppet that showed up. One of them was the one to plug the cable back in (which I do consider to be a terrible design decision on my creators' parts).

EP: Spider-like robots... Oh! The spiderbots! Those were probably sent by Nine Spiders' Dawn.

FTL: And who exactly is Nine Spiders' Dawn?

EP: He is a member of Local Group 17 that I contacted for help after I got the notification that you were 'unconscious'.

FTL: I see... How many Iterators... How many people, including intelligent non-Iterator life, did you bring into this situation of miniscule importance?

EP: It's not miniscule if you basically got ripped in half for at least two whole cycles.

EP: Do not worry though! It was only Upsilon and Nine Spiders' Dawn.

FTL: As well as whoever it was that Upsilon decided to bring along with him. Winter's Monsoon was the other Iterator's name, and a few others' overseers were there too.

FTL: You could have simply only contacted Nine Spiders' Dawn. No need to involve more Iterators needlessly, I must say.

EP: LISTEN. I AM NOT GOING TO LOSE YET ANOTHER SIBLING JUST BECAUSE YOU DECIDE TO BE AN IDIOT. RIGHT AFTER I EXPLICITLY EXPLAINED ALL OF MY GRIEVANCES THAT I HAVE AGAINST YOU. I WILL BRING AS MANY PEOPLE AS NECESSARY INTO THIS IF IT MEANS YOUR SAFETY.

EP: I DONT CARE. NO. NO YOU DO NOT GET TO DO THIS.

FTL: I am alright. There is no need for an overreaction.

EP: say that again, i dare you.

EP: I am not overreacting. I've been you, I know you. I've been in your same mindset - even if you're changing it! - I can guess the exact reasoning behind what you do. I am perfectly aware of the fact that you will drive yourself all the way to death and not even notice.

EP: I will not be losing another sibling to a preventable cause.

FTL: ...

EP: I will be checking in on you once more at some point within the next cycle or two. Say thank you to Upsilon for me for being there for you in ways that I cannot. Have a good cycle, Finely-Tuned Line. Don't be an idiot.

[finely-tuned-line]

Wassup, I just remembered you have a tumblr acc. Just saying hi.

- the ex time lord

OOC:

oh my gods mate, my main tumblr is @enlighten3d, send random shit over there, this is a sideblog /lh

smh

but hi lol (gods i hope im right abt who you are-)

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

PRIVATE TRANSMISSION

FTL: I'm alright.

EP: Oh, thank- What even happened?

FTL: Essentially, a cable got unplugged, therefore disconnecting my main consciousness from my systems. Sort of knocking me unconscious, I suppose that'd be a good analogy.

EP: ...That is so stupid.

EP: Void, you scared me

EP: I was expecting the ping, but from Songs of the Negative Sunlight, not you.

EP: Next time you almost die, let me know first, k?

FTL: I cannot exactly predict what will happen and when it will happen, can't I?

EP: Well, figure it out.

FTL: ...

EP: I'm glad you're okay.

FTL: Thank you.

[finely-tuned-line]

ho;y shit i didnt really there was a desktop theme this FUCKS.y ummy

OOC:

YEAHHHHH there is!!! i fucked with the colours for like half an hour when i first made it,,, shdjej glad that its yummy lol

[oceanremnants]

@finely-tuned-line:

(to upsilon)

RP:

EP: I don't know how to start this.

EP: This is Echoes of a Paradox, Finely-Tuned Line's groupmate. I'm kind of hijacking my brother's transmission systems for... various reasons, though they don't matter right now.

EP: About a cycle ago, everyone in my group (which is basically just me and my younger sister at this point, really...) recieved a sort of... notification that signifies that someone - specifically Finely-Tuned Line - was... non-functional. Ve's still alive, there'd be a different one if his systems went completely dead.

EP: I'm reaching out to you because I got your transmission to Finely-Tuned Line (it's actually kinda really sweet... sorry for reading things not intended to me) after I hijacked his transmission systems. That you contacted him, continuing a conversation, means that you know him. Which means that you can maybe help?

EP: I don't know what happened to ven, I just know that ve's alive. As well as whatever's happened/is happening is not Rot. He always sends out emergency broadcasts whenever that happens (and i really do hate that it's happened often enough that I know his procedure for that!).

EP: I've already asked someone from the group near us (17) for some help. Specifically of someone who's a mechanic of sorts, I think. It's probably worth asking you as well? As well as... well you deserve to know.

EP: I can't really do anything to help ven other than maybe sending a couple of overseers to check ven out but... Even though I have his schematics, it's hard to spot discrepancies.

EP: I think that's it... This other Iterator from Local Group 17 is all I'm relying on right now, anything you can do to help would be appreciated. Other than getting more people involved, that'd... nevermind.

EP: That's all.

<UPSILON> Thank you.

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

EP: I'll tell you if anything new comes up.

[finely-tuned-line]

OOC:

silence over the next few days is very much intentional! (:

that is all!

(intentional as in the fact that it holds significance and is canon to the rp)

[finely-tuned-line]

The rot?

only people who created modified creatures get that

you deserve this

-eternal anomaly

RP:

FTL: My whole purpose (beyond solving the Great Problem, of course) was for genetic experimentation. I am merely doing my job. If I enjoy said job, well then that is just a bonus.

FTL: All creatures are modified. Modifying them further is not going to change that much.

FTL: The Rot is simply a hazard that I must face, whether I deserve it or not is irrelevant.

FTL: And if this time is the time that the Rot gets me? Then I do deserve it, for not being able to handle it. The creatures will be fine, they'll wake back up again. They'll adapt.

FTL: I know what I'm doing.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh sure all creatures are modified

But if you actively modify creatures now you're ruining my observations of the natural mutations and evolutions

And it's really annoying seeing all the unoriginal, uninteresting, derivative things you people come up with too

especially if your bad enough to get infected by rot

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: You see, that just so happens to not be an issue that I care to bother myself with. You can do your research, I do mine. If our goals contradict one another, once again, not my issue.

FTL: Natural mutation may be what is interesting to you, but I am occupied with modification. I could not care less what you are doing, you are not part of my Local Group, and I have no responsibility to you - whether that be stopping my experimentation, or aiding you in your foolish quest.

FTL: And yet you dare to insult my work. Perhaps it does seem to be uncreative, pointless, and harmful to you. But unlike you, I look beneath the surface of the creatures, at their genetics. And I fix them. I don't leave them to run themselves into the ground, as you seem happy to do. Everything I do is calculated.

FTL: The Rot was a mistake on my part, yes. But this isn't the first time I've had it - even if this is a more potent strain of it. I have the proper facilities to rid myself of it, and I warned those around me.

FTL: It is your own issue if you are so insistent on parading yourself around like some sort of saviour of these beings when you do less than even I do.

[eternally-anomalous]

my foolish quest hmm

And what have you got to show for your own work? The rot

For your information I do look at their genetics, how else am I supposed to properly document whether it is a mutation of an environmental change

as for fixing them ...what makes you think they need fixing

Your own pathetic ego that can't bear to see anything left untouched?

And doing little

... doing little

Do you have any IDEA how hard it is to keep modified creatures out of MY regions

Any TINY bit of understanding within you how much work it is to remove those when I do find them

No no of course not you just make creatures and release them into the wild, then act surprised when you mess it up and get the rot

-eternal anomaly

[finely-tuned-line]

RP:

FTL: I have a lot more than the Rot to show for my work. Just because you're too blind to see it is no fault of mine.

FTL: And what purpose does all your cataloguing and monitoring serve? Other than feeding your incessant nagging that modified lifeforms are inferiour to 'natural' ones.

FTL: But in the end, everything needs fixing. I'm just willing to do the job. Nothing - no one - is perfect, yet I'm getting closer to attaining it. Perhaps it is my 'ego', as you so call it, but I'm just feeding my curiosity as you are feeding yours. And while I'm at it, I am helping everyone. I'm doing what I was built for.

FTL: Either way, in the end, the creatures adapt to their new selves - all while being better than they ever were.

FTL: If you're doing so much to 'protect' your grounds from the 'monstrous modified', then why don't you go crawling back there? There's no need to impose your irrational desire for unmodified evolution on me.

FTL: Ah yes, the restricting of wildlife's habitats. The ones you kick out have lots more space to go, I'm sure. Namely, others' regions. Ones that don't judge them sheerly for their genetics.

FTL: So much effort, all for naught. Tell me, is there any reason that you wish so for the eradication of genetic modification? I can understand curiosity, I can understand obligation, I can understand understand boredom. What I cannot understand is the pure vile hatred you seem to hold for what I spend my time doing.

FTL: I never claimed to be surprised when this strain of Rot appeared. I was prepared for it, I am handling it. You dare insult my knowledge of what I am doing like that? If anything, I'm disappointed in myself. Not surprised. Never surprised. Anyone messing with genetics should be fully prepared for Rot, and I failed in that regard. I fully accept the consequences of my actions, and I have taken the necessary measures. This will not be happening again, there is no reason for you to keep bringing up my stupidity.

[eternally-anomalous]

Oh really, more than the rot

And do you have an example of these glorious benefits that you've gained from your work?

No?

Helping everyone except those your modification your ecosystem destabilizes and all the creature that you havent changed, oh and you do realize that those precious genes you're modifying came from the natural evolutions

Go crawling back to my grounds

You must be awfully stupid for an iterator, do you not realize that I can do more than one thing at once

Even the ancients could work and talk

And I think you misunderstand what I mean by remove

I mean remove them from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death

you've gotten the rot several times? Sounds like incompetence to me

Maybe you should stop making creatures

For your own health of course

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, the survival of multiple species for one, giving them the resources to survive for longer than half a cycle. The creation of multiple species. The species that you oh-so-wish to study.

FTL: And where exactly is the benefit of your work?

FTL: Do you really think that I am enough of a fool to release creatures that would destabilise the ecosystem. Those are on a specific part of my grounds. (And before you mention it, I am well aware that I am a hypocrite.) The only ones I release are those with beneficial modifications, such as those improving their immune system. Besides, the ecosystem adapts. Maybe it is wrong of me to 'carelessly' throw about my ability to genetically modify. But I don't think so. There have been no long-term negative effects so far. And I don't think there ever will be.

FTL: Of course the genetics originate from natural evolution. That's why they're imperfect. Nature is so fickle.

FTL: No, of course I understand that. But why must you interfere with my work if you have your own little 'safe haven'? Perhaps you're just weak of mind, not able to accept the existence of modified creatures, and how they too, are alive. Natural evolution is in no way superiour to modification.

FTL: I accept the risks of my work as they come. I will not be giving this up for something as insignificant as the Rot. I may succumb to it in the end, but that does not matter. I will not be giving up my work for something as insignificant as you and your petty little pipe dreams of a natural evolution either.

[eternally-anomalous]

survival of multiple species? Surely you can't be so idotic as to think species that still exist today are completely unable to survive for more than half a cycle.

And where did you get this information, on your modification infested grounds? Full of red lizards and centipedes I'm sure

you do realize that creatures survived long before your existence and will continue after your sad, tragic, and completely unforseen death

And so you say creatures can't survive without and in the same breath say the ecosystem adapts!

Giving creatures stronger immune systems? And when the virus that can infect them kills everything else, then what will you do

Your argument is going in circles, or at least your insults are

You've called my goal petty at least twice

You could at least open a thesaurus

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, of course. There are no more species like that because I fixed them. Simple.

FTL: Red lizards and centipedes are dreadfully boring to modify, I do not have many of them. Why make a deadly creature even more deadly? There's no point to it. It's completely uninteresting.

FTL: So they will. But they'll be better than they were in their previous cycles because of my interference. Natural evolution will degrade my efforts over time, but it'll still be better that it ever would have been without me. My death will come eventually, as will yours, such is the inevitable death of all Iterators. I accept that, but I shall die better than I was at the start of my existence, knowing that my purpose was fulfilled.

FTL: Creatures are part of ecosystems, but they are not the same thing. The ecosystem as a whole adapts, but organisms in their singularity are weak to the throes of the food chain. And the food chain is a major part of an ecosystem, yes, but the improvement of these beings' lives is not my primary goal. It's just a beneficial side effect that I'm consistently pointing out. Ecosystems adapt, but creatures take a lot longer to do so, to their detriment.

FTL: If there's a virus going around that the one with the modified immune system can withstand but the others cannot, well, they'd all have died of it either way. It's just that this one can survive it.

FTL: Yes my argument is going in circles, mostly because you are simply not seeing my point. I know my work, and I defend it well. Petty is just simply the best word to describe you, you cannot blame me for continuously using it.

FTL: So I'll repeat it.

FTL: You are a petty, insignificant Iterator whose harassment is starting to grind on my nerves. You probably enjoy this, and you're happy to hear of my suffering. But I am not going to step down from my experiments and modifications just because you tell me to.

[eternally-anomalous]

There are no more species like that because they either evolved or died out, idiot

your involvement does not make a difference to every single creature out there, in fact it affects very few and you will die alone having failed to change anything in any meaningful manner as your creations fade back into the lineages they belonged to and your purpose will never be fulfilled, just as mine and everyone else's will not be fulfilled

and if the benefit of the individual creatures is not your goal, why brag about fixing them

Oh I won't argue with petty but insignificant? No. I daresay ive made more impact on the ecosystems in my local group than you ever will

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why must you continue to deny my involvement in that happening? I have recorded the decreasing rates of death in such lifeforms. I acknowledge that it wasn't all me, but to say that I am taking credit for natural evolution + selection is to just you stating that you're not capable of critical thinking.

FTL: I repeat: that does not really matter to me. However tiny it may become in the end, my involvement will be there forever, written down in genetics. They don't just suddenly revert like that, and they will show in the creatures' descendants.

FTL: If you're trying to belittle me and my actions, it's not really working. I know that influence will remain in the end, even if it is infinitesimally small. I know that my purpose will never be fulfilled, and I know that I will die alone. That is a fact of life an Iterator. I'm just one of the lucky few whose actual interest align with their purpose. I may fade into permanent unconsciousness alone with my purpose unfulfilled, but I'll have spent my entire time alive doing what I love. That alone is enough.

FTL: And I'm not bragging about my involvement, I'm just stating it as a beneficial side effect. Apologies if that was not conveyed properly. Yes, I fix them. Yes, I'm proud of that. But it is not a goal, it is simply a means to an end; that end being satisfying my curiosity and my secondary purpose. To create, modify, experiment upon creatures is the whole purpose I specifically was created (all Iterators are made to solve the Great Problem, but what differentiates Iterators from one another are our secondary puposes). The fixing creatures is just a beneficial means to an end, and if talking about it is what it takes to prove my whole existence not unnecessary, then so be it.

FTL: How about you turn your own argument about me being insignificant on yourself? Any efforts you've made to keep modified creatures out will proven inconsequential in the end as Iterators fall and your beloved natural evolution takes hold. If it started earlier for some creatures than others will make no difference. So if you dare say that my work is meaningless, try looking at your own work under the same lense. I think you'll find that the results are quite similar.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes, but the difference here is im not an ancient loving creature modifying egotistical and just rather stupid iterator

and what would rate of death matter if they just come back anyway, sure you are aware of the great cycle

or did the ancients not even give you that crucial piece of information when they built you, just as they obviously did not give you a great many other important things

and you are still working on the great problem? The irrelevant stupid thing they saddled us with

they are all gone now you know, so what's the point of working

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Once again, your arguments are redundant. Your insults are pointless, and one could easily describe you as a 'natural evolution supremacist, egotistical, and just rather stupid Iterator'. The only differences between you and I are that I modify creatures, you want the return of natural evolution, and that I don't go out of my way to harass those whose opinions and actions oppose mine.

FTL: And when did I ever say that I love the Ancients? They're just my creators that have laid out a set of purposes for me. Just because I strive to achieve those purposes does not mean that I'm happy with the way they treated us. Those purposes are the whole reason I exist, it is only right that I do my best to arrive at their conclusions.

FTL: No, of course I am aware of the Great Cycle. The rate of death happens to matter because I'm sure it's just not right to not be able to survive for a whole cycle. Rate of death is something that has always been catalogued, it has always been important in some fashion. Even if it serves no objective.

FTL: What would those 'great many other important things' they did not provide me with be? As far as I am aware, I have everything necessary so far, and nothing has been lacking. Actually, perhaps don't answer that question, I'm sure the reply will be uncreative and just something you wish you had.

FTL: The Great Problem has been reduced to a side project for me, as I'm sure it has been for many others. Of course I continue to work on it, if only to figure out if it is actually possible. Meanwhile, my secondary goal has become the thing I primarily concern myself with.

FTL: What is the point of working? What is the point of working? Have you been even comprehending everything I've been sending to you? Are you even capable of doing so? The point of working is so that there is some point to my existence; I am not going to allow myself to rot away in this isolated metallic reality with nothing to do. I do what I do because I enjoy it. Because it's why I'm here. Even if in the end there's no point to it - even if there's no point to anything - I'm still going to continue on. If you'd actually paid attention to my words and not just picked out the best points to worthlessly argue against, you'd know that.

[eternally-anomalous]

If i can't pick what points to argue then tell me how I should carry out an argument?

Say random things?

not even read your argument and just ramble in the hopes of countering your points?

I would respond to the rest of this but apparently that's not what you're supposed to do in this situation

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: What I'm saying is that you pick the points that you think you can confidently win against and refuse to acknowledge everything else. Perhaps I do the same thing, it is very easy to get blindsided by one's belief that they're right.

FTL: Although I suppose that is how an argument is supposed to work. Defend your stance the best you can, neglect all else in hopes your opponent won't push further within those areas.

FTL: What you're doing here is directing all attention to a single, not-very-important line. I do still stand by what I said though, even if replying too every single word would make this conversation somehow drag on for even longer. That line may go against how debates are supposed to work, but I still find it insulting.

FTL: In all honesty, I'd rather not be talking to you at all. But I'm sure that I've mentioned that before and that you're completely aware of that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Void damn it he's left me nothing to argue against with this statement

The point is to make the conversation drag on, whoever stops first looses after all

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Then I suggest you resign. I'm sure you have other people to harass, though you should look into leaving them alone as well. I'm not going to stop defending myself, and it appears that you have nothing left to throw at me. I hope you at least learned something of value from this all.

[eternally-anomalous]

The only thing of value I got out of this conversation was the entertainment of annoying you

a pretty valuable thing all in all

As for people to harass, I've actually found a few people that agree with my ideals

so not really doing that at the moment

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Unsurprising, that you'd gain nothing of actual value beyond entertainment from all this. I suppose that's only to be expected from people like you.

FTL: Hm. I'd say good for you, except that means that there is a chance that more like you will come crawling to my doorstep in order to degrade me. I am just going to hope that none of them are as extreme as you.

FTL: But in the end, that does free some Iterators from your botherings. Two sides to coin, afterall.

[eternally-anomalous]

probably won't be anyone else coming to harass you

Unfortunately

I am not the kind of person to lead what others would call a cult

And they all seem too nice to engage in a confrontation like this without you starting it

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I think you mean thankfully. Anyone who'd willingly follow you and repeat your actions is frankly, rather stupid.

FTL: I will not be starting any confrontations, as I'm sure you've guessed. I don't mind others having different ideals than I, that is just how things are. I don't go out of my way to attack them like you.

FTL: Everyone has their opinions and ideals, it's simply unjust to harass them for having said opinions. I very much know that

[eternally-anomalous]

You would say that

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, I very much would. And it is just basic decency to not harp upon others for their opinions. I'm sure you already know that what I say next is a pointed insult at your character and how said basic decency is not something you appear to have. I'll save myself the time from redundantly repeating it.

[eternally-anomalous]

How do you mess up modifying a creature so bad it not only dies but turns into the rot

That takes some major incompetence

-eternal anonaly

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FTL: And we've circled right back to the start.

FTL: The Rot kills any creature that has the misfortune of being its host. It's not my fault that it died, though it is my fault that my experiment resulted in the Rot.

FTL: That cyan lizard actually died after the Rot got created within it, which is highly unusual. Usually the death is instantaneous. Either way, the order of the words in your sentence is wrong. Actually that sentence itself it wrong. The part about its death shouldn't even be there, if a simple creature gets the Rot, it's dead. There's no way around it. Therefore that part of your sentence is redundant.

FTL: And you're right. It does take incompetence. I know that.

FTL: For the millionth time, we've already been over all this, Eternal Anomaly. Or are the last few cycles' worth of arguing just gone from your Memory Arrays?

[eternally-anomalous]

You were so boring I had to delete them to avoid ascending myself

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: How would you even manage to do so? I doubt that you of all people would be able to do what no one else has managed to.

FTL: If I'm truly that boring, then cease this conversation with me. Wait no, didn't you previously mention, several times, that I'm entertaining? Which one is it?

FTL: Hypocrite.

[eternally-anomalous]

Im not a hypocrite! Why does everyone keep calling me that!

... Oh by the way

if you ever see a slugcat-poleplant hybrid, throw it into the rot for me

youd be doing the world a favor

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Take a closer look at the things you do and say and how they contradict one another. If you had any critical thinking skills, you'd understand what everyone who's ever rightfully called you a hypocrite means.

FTL: Odd request, I will not be complying to it. What would a slugcat-poleplant hybrid even look like, where did this even come from?

[eternally-anomalous]

i would comment on how many times you've insulted my critical thinking skills and that you need to get a new criticism lest you repeat yourself again, but I deleted this conversation from my memory so I wouldn't know that

That.. creature is a vile abomination, does there need to be any other reason to kill it or to tell others to kill it

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: I will repeat: I'll keep reusing my insults so long as they continue to apply to you. I do not think that it is highly likely that they'll cease to do that soon, though. And if you are going to delete parts of this conversation, why do you insist upon continuing it?

FTL: That creature... Significantly Important Utility. I've talked with her. I have also heard about about the results of your conversation with her. Cannot say that I didn't enjoy the information.

[eternally-anomalous]

have you ever heard of lying in order to insult someone.. no of course you haven't

...

WHAT

I AM GOING TO FORCEFULLY ASCEND THAT THING I AM GOING TO ..

...

no

overseer delete that bit

*ahem* that creature loves to tell lies and untruths

i would advise ignoring anything it says

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why would you lie in order to insult? The insult loses any value it has then as it is less grounded in reality. A coward's way out.

FTL: Your own Overseer didn't listen to you... Your reaction is funny though. Just confirms what I heard. Even if Significantly Important Utility did enjoy telling lies and untruths, I believe them over you. The fact that I caught the very end of that conversation myself also helps. Oh, to see you defeated by a slugcat. It's beautiful.

FTL: Any advice you ever give me, I will do the exact opposite of it (unless it's clear that you are using reserve psychology on me, obviously), you never have good ideas. To your information, Significantly Important Utility has given me a very interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators. Ah, but you wouldn't care, would you? What with your absurd hatred for others of your own kind, you'd only seek to destroy it.

[eternally-anomalous]

its not like we were seriously debating at that point

...you read my logs

Listen FTL, I am fine with being insulted, a murder attempt I would understand. But reading my fucking private conversation is too far

I don't do that to you

don't I deserve some basic privacy?

Aren't I still an iterator, a person, despite my opinions

I don't read your logs

I wouldn't insult you with the knowledge from those logs

Why would you do that to me

Ha. The only thing you could do for the good of all Iterators is die suddenly and painfully

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Apologies, but someone was bound to do it. It just so happened to be me, the Iterator who you've been fruitlessly arguing with for the past several cycles and have been aggravating during that time. That conversation was semi-public, I'm sure you knew that.

FTL: No, you do not deserve basic privacy, not really. Yes you are still an Iterator, but you have been needlessly harassing every single Iterator you could get into contact with for the past who-knows-how-long. It isn't even about your opinions, as I've stated several times, I respect your opinions. It's the fact that you go out of your way to provoke and pester both those whose opinions oppose your own or those who are simply existing and not doing anything relevant to said opinions. That is not something that is okay to do, no matter if you deem them irredeemable simply for existing.

FTL: You may not read my logs, and I do appreciate that. But I'm not the one who went out of my way to rag on someone who was simply warning the world of a potential threat for just doing his job. Others do read my logs. They're all public. I've grown used to it, and in all honesty? I expected that you'd do the same, and use what I say in those against me. You should not be surprised that my opinions of you are so low.

FTL: I was only doing what I deemed correct. I still do not see how it was not. You have been antagonising me, this was simply a retort. And it finally appears to be one that hit where it hurts.

FTL: And why would my death benefit all Iterators? I'd actually say that it's yours that would do that. If you'd like to know why, please reread the second paragraph of this message, preferably the entirety of this message while you're at it. Perhaps it'll finally drill into your memory arrays what I've been saying for however many of these messages.

[eternally-anomalous]

oh really. This whole conversation was all my fault.

Have you ever heard of the hang up or perhaps the block button? You could end your aggravation at any time. And yet you dont

You should have

If I don't deserve the right to privacy for the crime of being annoying, when why not make it so I really don't deserve it

Say ... Perhaps a count of mass murder

Is two people mass murder? No I need another one, three would count im sure

It would be a shame to kill the one who gave me the drones with which I'm planning to do it with but that would make it go smoother

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Yes, it is all your fault. Why should I not defend myself? We wouldn't be here if you hadn't started it, and my simply not replying would not be a move that I am willing to take.

FTL: You are severely underestimating the impact your harassment has had on the people you've conversed with. It's not just 'being annoying'. I've explained it all before, I am not going to repeat myself.

FTL: Threaten me all you want. I do not have time for this anymore. I am in a state of potential crisis right now, I will not be entertaining your foolishness.

FTL: But I do have a question for you, as unlikely as it is that you will provide me with an answer. How do you 'remove [creatures] from the timeline by trapping them in a single point of agony and death'?

[eternally-anomalous]

well, ending it is always an option even if you don't want to take it

oh no did I hurt your feelings? Or waste your time? How tragic. How sad. Truly a huge impact on you. If it really matters so much then why do people still modify creatures?

did your rot join the cycle, and started coming back every time you destroy it? That would be a minor inconvenience

if you die from it, it would save me some work

What makes you think I would even tell you what time it is if you asked

I'm sure you're just dying to know my secret aren't you

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Why would I do that? That would be letting you win and would stoke your ego even more.

FTL: No, none of those. You have not had much impact on me beyond adding a small worry that there are more like you out there. I'm talking about others. Your impact on the Iterator populace has been overall negative, and while I'm sure you relish that fact, it does not remove the other fact that- I have no time for this. I have no time to write yet another explanation to you of how your idiotic actions make you deserving of everything you get. Just extrapolate from my sentiments this entire conversation. Though I do doubt you're capable of even something so basic.

FTL: Said minor inconvenience does threaten your life as well, you know. FTLR-3 is fully capable of destroying the landscape of this world we exist in, causing carnage - to wildlife and Iterators. It is crucial that I prevent that.

FTL: Unsurprising. Never expected that question to work, and I was right.

FTL: Feel free to not reply to this: I highly doubt I'd read your reply within the next few cycles. The only reason I even bothered to reply right now is because, well, maybe I'm petty too.

[eternally-anomalous]

you do know that rot can't reproduce outside a host

You should, you've gotten it what, three times?

As I'm not currently inside of your superstructure, I believe I'm safe from your little mistake

Although If it's so urgent that you are planning on putting it inside your poor dying neighbor just because xi has void fluid

Well, I might make a few precautions for myself but I certainly won't be helping you

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I am now unfortunately back to continue this conversation. I will repeat myself because you appear to have an issue with reading everything that I say and properly understanding it: I continue this conversation out of a sense of obligation and perhaps even pride. I am well aware of the fact that I could theoretically end this, yet I continue to willingly play into your little self-entertainment endeavour. I am aware.

FTL: Yes, it is typical of Rot to not be able to spread outside of the Iterator that created it, but that is not always true. Especially when dealing with Moving Rots. It is a matter of whether the Rot is capable of adapting to sources of nutrients other than Iterators, which not many Rots are capable of doing, hence the assumption that it is true for all Rots. 'Rot' is merely an umbrella term for a vast amount of similar organisms; there are very, very few rules that fit every single lifeform that can fall under said umbrella.

FTL: ...Alright. So you finally did what I've been expecting. I... I am not surprised. Though the fact remains that what you're actually right for once. It is not a good thing, what I did. It is not a good thing that that was the only plan I could come up with. It is not a good thing that I was willing to carry it out.

FTL: But I will repeat myself as I have been having to do so often as of late: I know. Anything you could ever say that could truly hurt me? I know. I've thought it all before, I doubt you'd ever be able to come up with a truly harmful insult that I haven't long since accepted as a fact.

FTL: I did use xir situation to my advantage, yes. But once again, matter of necessity. Xi is beyond saving, and xi knows that. Still, using xim perhaps does make me a bad person, but as I've said, I know that. It's a tricky situation.

FTL: I will not be continuing to 'defend myself' or even talking about the situation. It's... I do not think you actually care at all about what happened, unsurprisingly. I do not blame you, why should you care? A quick underhanded insult was all that statement was. I do not have to explain myself and my actions to you.

FTL: I have been thinking over the past few cycles, if not actively so, as I was preoccupied with the crisis. I have many things I wish to say to you, mostly about how anything you could ever do to me is futile, and how I do not understand your aggression towards others of your own kind at all. I don't understand you at all, in fact. I suppose I could compare you to a logic puzzle with no logic behind it.

FTL: This conversation has been dragging on for far too long. Though, as stated earlier, I will not be the one to end it. I'm sure that you have no interest in what I have to say in the first place, but I'll admit, I do have nothing better to do right now.

FTL: All of this was to say that I don't fear you. I just do not understand you. You've made a largely negative impact on those who you have conversed with, and you revel in the infamy. Why? Though perhaps, I too, do not actually care about any supposed response to that question.

[eternally-anomalous]

If your so confused about me why not go read my logs again

im sure your answers are somewhere in those

Because that's surely the best way you could be spending your time right now

Not trying to stop your "world destroying threat" no the best thing to do is invade my privacy

For the second time

once again id like to ask, what negative effects do I inflict on people other than wasting their time

id love to know

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Still salty about that, I see. I have explained my reasoning behind my actions. What do you hope to achieve by continuously bringing it up? Besides being passive-aggressive. I do not regret what I did, and I still think that I was completely justified in not adhering to typical privacy guidelines.

FTL: And no, it is not the best thing I could be doing with my time. The whole situation with FTLR-3 is now over, and I am soon going to begin another project. I do have more important things to do rather than indulging in your wish for me to prove myself not being up to moral standards.

FTL: I must admit, you can consider that point in the argument defunct. I have no proof to back my statement, only the fact that whenever someone mentions you in conversations that I hold, their perception of you is always negative. I am sure that what you're doing has caused harm of some sort, but I have no evidence, nor do I, in truth, actually care enough to attempt to gather it. Yet I stand by that thought, even if it means nothing in the end.

[eternally-anomalous]

Funny how I have more morality than you, who supposedly is going to be the "grand savior" of all iterators, in that particular area

i hope your next project ends with you choking to death on the rot as it destroys you from the inside out

I hope its one of the slower varieties and it destroys whatever you use to modify creatures first so there's nothing you can do about it

I hope you collapse and have to watch your idiotic modified creatures eat what remains of your brain

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I never claimed to be some sort of 'grand saviour', as you put it. I was only fixing my own mistakes, which had put other Iterators in danger. Where did you even get the notion from? I understand that I may have phrased some things incorrectly, but I have never said anything along those lines. Does attempting to correct my blunders automatically make me some sort of worship-seeking figure?

FTL: Morality is not something that I particularly care about, no matter the picture of myself that my words may have previously painted. I only care about my experiments and trying to not have an overall negative effect on the Iterator populace. It's not a matter of seeking fame or being glorified for my actions. It's a matter of not making people's lives worse, and even that is not all that important to me. Even if that is perhaps not the way that my words have been understood.

FTL: Well. That's descriptive. Why do you wish so much harm upon me? But just so that you don't get your hopes up: it's unlikely that that would ever happen. I may be rushing headfirst into danger (as LIFEGIVER put it), but as I said in my first ever message to you, I know what I'm doing. Sorry, but that simply will not be happening.

[eternally-anomalous]

"interesting idea for my next project. One that benefits all Iterators." Not a savior complex there, huh, because claiming your idea will benefit every single iterator out there is simply being humble

If morality is unimportant to you, why you do keep insulting mine, hypocrite

Oh, that's right, you don't care about your own death, you only care about not being purposeless

That would almost be enough to make me pity you, if I didn't hate you so much

Would someone who really knows what they are doing get the rot? Three times?

You're lying to someone and it's not just me

You should really try telling yourself the truth someday

And "knowing" what you're doing doesn't stop your supports from collapsing

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: That is a misunderstanding of what I meant. I was stating that as a beneficial side effect of the experiment, as it has been continuously pointed out to me that doing things only for myself is 'selfish' on some level. Though I do see how it could have been misunderstood as me thinking that I have the capability to 'save' all Iterators. No, that was not it. It could help a lot of Iterators, which I suppose would be good, but it's not the primary objective. The primary objective is seeing if what I'm trying to do is even possible. If it is, well. It's not like anyone would even want to utilise it.

FTL: Ah, but you see, unlike you I admit that I'm a hypocrite. I know that full well. Besides, the moral standards that I am not up to are in different areas than you. I don't harass people for no reason. I'm fine in that regard, you're not. Still, condemning you for that remains a hypocritical act. I will be continuing to do it though, because it is not a matter of morality. It's a matter of proving my point, I suppose.

FTL: Why would I be pitied for believing that? It's just a fact that I choose to acknowledge. I don't understand why others don't do the same and instead ignore it, but I'll let others do what they want. Perhaps they know something that I don't.

FTL: Yes, actually. If you put those three times into perspective of the numbers of experiments that I've done, those three times are naught but a drop in a sea. Statistically, I've done pretty well. Nothing similar to those three times will be happening again, because I can do a little something called learning. Learning from my mistakes, learning from what I've been told since then. If anything, I'm more prepared now than I was before.

[eternally-anomalous]

You seem to contradict yourself a lot "I don't want to help people but I'm helping everyone but I don't care about anyone other than myself" pick one and stick to it.

i do harass people for a reason actually, and that reason is to get them to stop making modified creatures

the things that everyone but you knows could fill your entire memory arrays

ah yes, the excellent strategy of giving your dying group member the rot

truly the best failsafe ever devised

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I can do both, you know. Just because I primarily am concerned with myself doesn't mean that I don't put some sort of thought towards helping others if it's possible and wouldn't drag me away from my work for too long. Perhaps contradictory, but so shall it be.

FTL: False. You also harass people just for the sake of it, even if they don't modify creatures. You enjoy the infamy for whatever reason. I have no power to stop you, and in reality? I've found that maybe I don't even particularly care. Yes, you're hurting people, but there isn't much that I could even do to stop you. And as I said, nor am I inclined to. I do not enjoy the fact that you do this, but. Well, in all honesty I have no justification.

FTL: I do suppose you're right about that, but the same goes for you. As it does for anyone else. Not even us Iterators are capable of knowing everything, even 'collective' knowledge. Once again, your point can easily be reversed upon you against your favour.

FTL: ...I will not be replying to your last comment, as per my previous statement of not doing so.

[eternally-anomalous]

You either help people or you don't

fine. I do harass those modified creatures that have access to communications as well, but those fall under the same umbrella as the people who make them. The infamy is just a nice bonus

But you don't know so many basic things. Things everyone else except you and maybe descent know

its sad really

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Not necessarily. As I've been saying, my primary concern is myself, others are just a beneficial side effect that also acts as my secondary concern. Which leaves me in the middle, and exception to your false statement.

FTL: Still no point to harassing them, you are not going to convince anyone that you're correct if you go about acting like that.

FTL: I am inquiring as to what those things are. And I repeat that I'm sure that that statement applies to others as well. For example, everybody but you seems to know that you don't have to harass everyone you talk to just because they have differing opinions. Those with differing opinions can co-exist, and it still makes absolutely no sense to me as to why you even spend so much of your time doing something as pointless as this.

[eternally-anomalous]

No, im pretty sure that's how actions work, you help people or you don't, you can't half help someone

im not going to convince anyone anyway, why would you change all your goals and pastimes because someone asked nicely

at least this way I actually get some enjoyment out of it

things you don't know that everyone else does: 1.) Your purpose isn't everything 2.) Don't take stupid risks just to avoid feeling useless 3.) What they're saying about you behind your back

It takes about 5 minutes maximum to dictate all this. I wouldn't say that's such a massive amount of time

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Well, yes, with the way you're phrasing it, that is how that'd work. What I'm saying is that helping others is far from my primary concern, but still something that I do not let drift out of my periphery. A beneficial secondary side-effect that I would never work towards if it were a standalone thing, but still something that I prioritise over things I deem useless.

FTL: Then what's the point? To eliminate - or harass until they cease communications with you - every single other member of your kind whose opinions and actions disagree with your own? Rather drastic, I'd say.

FTL: The first two, I'll admit, I am not surprised at being mentioned, even though I still do not believe in them. But the latter, I've never heard of. Which I suppose is the whole point. I'd inquire as to what is being said, but I doubt that you'd ever answer, nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot that could be done in five minutes. Your loss though, I suppose.

[eternally-anomalous]

So you're just a mostly useless little bitch, so preoccupied with being useful you forget the whole meaning of usefulness is doing things for other people exclusively

cant even get usefulness right

Even if I was the nicest iterator ever, do you think people would willingly interact with a known murderer? The answer is no, by the way

like what? Kill a modified creature? Take care of my leeches? Manufacture something in accordance to my designated purpose?

Those all take longer than 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: It's not a matter of utility. It's a matter of fulfilling my purpose - whether I end up being useful or not. It's irrelevant if the things I do help others or not, that's not why I continue on. As previously stated, it's a side benefit. I fulfill my purpose out of obligation and the fact that doing so is something that I find rather interesting.

FTL: You wouldn't have gotten that reputation if you didn't harass people in the first place. Besides, I know that there's at least one person that willingly interacts with you. You've previously mentioned that there are others with similar ideals to your own, I'd think that they, at the very least, would be a contradiction to your statement. But that is besides the point, I still don't see the reasoning behind your actions - nor do I truly care.

FTL: There's a lot you could get started on in those five minutes, and in the long run, five minutes could add up to a lot. But do what you wish with your time, it doesn't particularly matter, even if you do end up harassing others.

[eternally-anomalous]

Isnt the whole point of having a purpose to be useful

otherwise why even bother

Did you even read what I said? I said no-one would talk to a murderer, not people block me because I'm mean to them

And sure, some people do talk to me, but I was speaking in general, not including specific people

ah yes, I could finally beat that crossword puzzle, thank you so much for reminding me of all the wonderful and important tasks that can be undertaken in 5 minutes

-eternal anomaly

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FTL: Not to me, no. I suppose it's somewhat of a 'proving myself worthy of existence' thing, if you wish to phrase it that way. My purpose is why I was created, therefore I must fulfill it. The reason for me being designed for the purpose that I was is irrelevant - it only matters that it's the purpose I have.

FTL: I do believe that most Iterators don't even know that you're a murderer right away. Perhaps it's my lack of ability to keep up-to-date with the happenings of other Iterators, but I didn't know that you'd committed murder until you'd mentioned it. Either way, perhaps you're right. It doesn't really matter, does it? This is half-hypothetical; a waste of time.

FTL: You are very welcome, Eternal Anomaly.

[eternally-anomalous]

You should just give up on trying to do that

it will never happen

It does seem like most people don't know what I've done, which is honestly quite surprising to me, considering how glories was.. Ill spare you the details

whenever I need useless advice on how to spend my time, ill make sure to come ask you

-eternal anomaly

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RP

FTL: Why do you think that I'd care what you think? It does not matter to me whether or not you think that my continued fulfillment of my purpose is futile or not. Whether it'll 'happen or not' is irrelevant, any argument you have against what I am doing with my time is rather pointless. I simply don't care what you think. Of course, I'll continue to explain my reasoning - and that is the futile part, not that I still strive to achieve my purpose.

FTL: While this may be a bit surprising to you, Eternal Anomaly, but I do rather think that people don't particularly care. I don't think whether you're a murderer or not makes much difference in people's perceptions of you. I'll be honest though, I'm somewhat curious what drove you to commit murder, but I also don't care.

FTL: Considering how you think that I'm 'less than useless', I'm sure that any advice that I give you will also be perceived as such. Therefore, go right ahead. You could also solve a sudoku in five minutes, you know.

[eternally-anomalous]

If you don't care what I think, why are you still arguing with me

you say that, but I bring it up one measly little time on a server and they ban me

i could solve a sudoku in about 0.5 seconds, we all can, why even bother with those things

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I've said this before. Obligation, wasting your time, pride, perhaps some degree of amusement. Neither of us will win this conversation and we're not even arguing any more - just repeating things over and over. I'm not going to be the one to end this though, and I doubt that you will either. So we're just about stuck in this argument as we are stuck being conscious.

FTL: Perhaps a bit drastic on their part. But if someone already has negative preconceptions about you - which most people do, rightfully so - then they're not going to be surprised if they learn of your deeds. I sure wasn't.

FTL: Well that's 600 sudokus in five minutes. A true waste of time, but you probably don't have anything better to do.

[eternally-anomalous]

I wouldnt end it even if I could

honestly this argument is like a pet to me at this point.. More like a houseplant really

Still don't care for you though

i can be nice to people, as long as they aren't modified creature making scum like you

actually the better thing to do with that time is argue with you

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: So you're literally incapable of ending this conversation? Interesting. But I suppose that that's one of the only things we agree on: that we're not ending this.

FTL: I suppose I see how that conception should come about. This is a thing that needs to be taken care of every so often, just getting it over and done with... I do see the parallels.

FTL: Neither do I, if it isn't clear already.

FTL: And you're back to insulting me and my life's work. Of course. How about you go reread the 6 535 words that I've written directed at you and reconsider doing that. There's no point to insulting me in that fashion. I've explained my reasoning to you, I see no flaws in my logic. I've heard your reasoning for arguing that natural evolution is superiour, and while I do not agree, your logic is pretty sound too. It's just redundant at this point to insult based on these opinions. Though I doubt that it was more than a half-hearted jab on your part. Still pointless.

FTL: It is just as much of a waste of time, so I suppose that you're correct there. Though that does equivalate this argument to ~600 sudokus. An accurate enough comparison, I'd say.

[eternally-anomalous]

what else should i insult then? Your boring personality? Your ugly puppet? Your creativity?

6535 words from you alone. at the end of this conversation we should sell it as a novel

It's certainly long enough

maybe ill organize my rarefaction cell collection in this time, I recently came into possession of new one

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: All of those are just as pointless. The first two are no fault of my own, and I've already explained how my work is creative, you're just unwilling to see it. A good insult has some foundation in reality while not being redundant or utilised before. I do believe that you've used up all the insults that fit those criteria. Do feel free to keep using them though, the more you repeat an insult, the more pointless it gets. Which is another point towards my status as a hypocrite, I suppose.

FTL: I suppose we could, though what's the point of selling it? Currency has lost any meaning it had long, long ago, even before our reign. Though I suppose it would be an interesting endeavour. Even if I do believe that anyone who wished to could read it right now.

FTL: Oh? Something to do with the whole Third Vast Attempt situation, I'd assume? Though I do wonder how many rarefaction cells you are even in possession of, if you claim it to be an entire 'collection'.a

[eternally-anomalous]

That was the point, you unobservant piece of slime mold

there. Was that a good one?

For fun? ...maybe more like a trade. you give me machine schematics and in exchange you get to fill your entire memory arrays with this conversation

yes, I took one of his rarefaction cells. Would have taken more, but lifegiver had already destroyed most of them

i currently have 13, no 14 now

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Yes, that actually was a good one. If not for its basis in truth, but for its sheer absurdity. But what even is a slime mould? A lifeform that does not live within my regions? Most likely. It does sound like an insulting thing to be compared to. I am not one who enjoys being insulted, but it's a somewhat interesting thing, I suppose.

FTL: Perhaps. I would not take you up on that offer, and even if I were to, I'd be incapable of fulfilling my side of said deal. I have no schematics for machinery, nor any knowledge of machinery in general. You're asking the wrong Iterator. I think there might be someone with proficiency in that in the next Local Group over from mine, though I'm not too sure. But either way, why would I wish to cram the recitations of this argument into my memory arrays? It's rather pointless doing so, this recording is not going anywhere.

FTL: ...LIFEGIVER did what? I'd have thought that to be out of character for him. Interesting. Doesn't matter. Why do you even need a collection of such trophies? There's really not much to prove in that fashion.

[eternally-anomalous]

A slime mold is a nasty invasive creature to my regions that forces me to waste massive amounts of time eradicating it.

[FTL.png] [the picture is of a large sparkly pink mass with many pseudopods extending out from its center. Someone inexperienced with rot might mistake this for a strange variant of it]

im not offering it to you, I'm explaining my offer should anyone actually want to purchase this conversation to read

oh yes, livegiver used some kind of giant drill to dig a massive hole through TVA and destroy her rarefaction cells

Although when I left they were.. cuddling

Anyway, who said I'm trying to prove anything

Maybe I just enjoy collecting them

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Interesting... Such an odd creatures. I'll have to search through my files to see if I have anything on it, just for the sake of curiosity. Oh, I apparently do. I've never gotten around to fully examining all the files that I have access to. Do you annihilate these just because they're invasive?

FTL: Ah, I see. Apologies for misunderstanding. Though even then, that deal only benefits you, does it no? I do also participate in this conversation, you know. Unless you'd be publishing this without my knowledge, though that would not be something that'd last long.

FTL: ...Interesting. That is all I have to say about that, beyond it being rather odd. Doesn't particularly matter, I suppose. Still is odd.

FTL: Why even collect anything, there's not much point to it. But alright. Seems like a waste of rarefaction cells though, in my opinion. Surely they could be somehow put to better use than lying around. Though I suppose you don't care about that.

[eternally-anomalous]

Yes I do. Invasive species ruin my experiment just as much as modified creatures

..I actually have stuff that is personal to me, that I would not want just anyone to read without any benefits to me.. or at all,which is why I won't be going through with this plan, in the conversation

And what could people give to you, certainly nothing that would make your sad, miserable life any better

they could be used to fix myself, should any of my rarefaction cells break. You don't keep your spare parts inside an currently working machine, after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I see. I suppose that does make sense. What do you even classify as invasive? Species that didn't live in your regions at your inception? What about migratory or nomadic species? Perhaps the answer is obvious, but I don't see it, probably due to my lack of expertise in the area.

FTL: What have you said in this conversation that could be counted as personal? You've just been restating your opinions and arguing with me, from what I remember. Though there was the one incident, but that doesn't stand out all that much.

FTL: It's just that I don't need anything. I have my experiments that is all I require. Almost anything else is superficial and pointless, which I suppose is why you think my life is 'sad and miserable'. Matters of opinion and differences in lifestyle.

FTL: Makes sense. Desperate to keep yourself alive, aren't you? Though I suppose many are like that. Couldn't you figure out how to construct rarefaction cells yourself? Though I'm not too sure of your level of proficiency in mechanics and relevant things, but it does sound like a possible thing. Much less effort than stealing them. Whatever work, works, though.

[eternally-anomalous]

creatures that didn't live in my regions after the ancients left

my retaining wall keeps out migratory and nomadic species, so that's never been a problem

All of my conversations with anyone are personal and shouldn't be shared or read by anyone except the other person in the conversation

Maybe it didn't stand out to you, but anyone who'd be willing to read this is obviously looking for ammunition to use against me

.. you and descent really would love each other

You're both sad, miserable people who can't comprehend that there is anything outside of their work

Oh that was just a justification for you. I do it because it's fun. Just making them would be too easy, and pointless anyway, none of my rarefaction cells even show a hint of failure

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Ah right, the wall. You did mention it way at the start of this whole conversation, if I remember correctly. What is the wall even constructed out of? Is it even a real wall or some sort of generated repelling field?

FTL: I suppose that does make sense. Why are you so convinced that people would search for ammunition against you so actively? Unless you mean that no one would read through this whole mess unless they had a properly good reason to do so.

FTL: Who is this 'Descent'? And I don't know about them, but I do comprehend that there are things outside of work. I just prioritise my work over said things because it's more important. Not wanting to engage in something does not equate to lack of comprehension in regards to it. Maybe it doesn't really matter that my work is my purpose, I do enjoy it and the process. The fact that it's my purpose is a benefit that gives me another reason to continue it, a way to defend it, and well, it's my purpose. The fact that it's my purpose and the fact that I enjoy it are both positive side-effects of each other, though that may be a somewhat paradoxical statement.

FTL: There is no 'sadness' or 'misery' here, no matter how it may seem to you, for whatever reason. While it is true that I'd have carried on with my purpose even if I weren't lucky enough to enjoy it as I do, well. Perhaps then the 'sadness and misery' would appear, but that is not the case. I have everything I need.

FTL: Hm. I don't understand you. Why do things just for 'fun'? There always has to be some sort of motivation or purpose. Though I suppose that 'fun' itself could be the driving force behind an action, though it feels like a lacking one. It's something though, sure.

[eternally-anomalous]

And yes, it's a physical wall

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I don't even have the capability to drink anything at all. Nevermind the fact that I have no access to bleach.Though, as always, I doubt that that was sent with the intention to make me actually drink bleach, ignoring the fact that it is physically impossible for me to do so. Even if I wanted to for some reason. Which I do not, and never will, because it is impossible for me to wish to do so. Such a clear yet redundant show of malice.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. Pour bleach into your water supply

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I repeat, I have no access to bleach, nor the inclination to mix whatever hypothetical bleach I'd get ahold of into my water supply. Serves no purpose. Beyond the fact that my suffering would most likely amuse you, but I do not qualify that as a valid reason.

[eternally-anomalous]

I see..

Well, fortunately for you, I have a simple solution to your tragic predicament

ill bring the bleach and pour it in your water supply for you

And yes, I would find your suffering amusing

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: This is, what? The fourth? Fifth? Time that you have threatened to kill me. It's not even startling at this point - not that it ever was. Perhaps it was the first time, though I do doubt it. Either way, I suggest you cease making pointless threats because it is quite clear that you're not going to act upon them.

FTL: Though I suppose that even the act of threatening me also brings you amusement. Unsurprising.

[eternally-anomalous]

Would you like me to act on them

Though I'm quite busy now, I'm sure I can find a gap in my schedule that will allow me to.. probably just rip out your rarefaction cells.

I don't feel like bringing all that bleach to your regions

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: No, I would not. All I'm saying is that threats lose their vitriol and strength if over-utilised, in which case, what's the point of them? They lose all meaning and become just another part of the conversation. Which I suppose could increase the surprise and effect factors if you decide to act upon a threat despite all of the previous ones being pointless. But that's a whole other thing.

[eternally-anomalous]

.. what would you do if you found out an old enemy you thought had died was alive

And are you really still going on about my overuse of threats? I got it the first time, FTL

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I'm not too sure. I've never had any enemies, so I wouldn't really know. I suppose I'd either simply avoid them or, and this is actually the likelier option, I'd simply go back to interacting with them the way I did before their supposed death. The fact that they died and time passed doesn't truly play any factor, why change something that doesn't appear to be flawed?

FTL: Why are you even asking that? As much as I doubt you'll answer, it's worth asking.

FTL: Well you didn't seem to get it the first time, so I thought I'd repeat myself. And I was only justifying my words.

[eternally-anomalous]

..did you not hear me? I said enemy, not friend, not casual acquaintance, enemy

Someone you hate with every fiber of your being, and would never willingly speak to

But of course you wouldn't understand, you're FTL

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: And I will repeat that I have never had an enemy, so I do not know what I would do. I've never 'hated someone with every fiber of my being', I do not have the necessary experience that I'd need in order to provide an accurate response.

FTL: Even then, I'm sure that my response wouldn't change. Sure, they're back from the supposed dead now. There's nothing that I can do about it. If what I did previously was not talk to them, I'd do that. If what I did previously was attempt to murder them (unlikely that I'd do something like that, but it's a valid example), then that would be the course of action I take once more.

FTL: I just don't see why it would be much of a drastic change, beyond my hypothetical reaction to my hypothetical enemy returning. They'd be back, I'd get over it, and go back to hating them as I typically did. There's not much to it.

[eternally-anomalous]

Why did I even bother asking

You are incapable of giving a satisfying answer to anything

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I do not answer the way you do in hopes to achieve any sort of satisfaction. You asked for what I thought, I gave you my opinion. It's your issue if you're dissatisfied with my reply, is that not the case?

[eternally-anomalous]

No wonder you dont have any friends

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I do actually think that that statement of yours may be false. Considering the fact that Upsilon continuously addresses me as 'my friend' within our conversations, there is a reasonable conclusion that can be drawn that I have at least one friend. Your point is void.

[eternally-anomalous]

Upsilon? Of course you would talk with that logs reading idiot

Just because someone calls you that doesn't mean it's true

There are plenty of people out there who will address you with "my friend" while hating you

Oh, and I hope you weren't having any urgent conversations with him

It might take a while for him to respond

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Considering the fact that you were most likely not privy to my conversations with him, I highly doubt the idea that he hates me. Highly. Some people do actually like me (for whatever reasons), unlike you. Just because you hold a certain opinion doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else does, no matter how viable that idea may be. I've had to properly learn that recently, and I can say for sure that it does appear to be completely true.

FTL: ...I really would ask you why that is the case, but I don't think you'll respond truthfully. I suppose I'll just ask him later. Unless you chose to actually reply to the question that still remains within that sentence of mine, despite the fact that I have no directly asked it. If you do so, it'd be appreciated, as Upsilon is one of the few people that I actually... care about. But, I will repeat, I have my suspicions that you will not be gracing me with a proper response. Oh well.

[eternally-anomalous]

When you end up getting betrayed I expect a full apology and you to beg for my forgiveness

.. is this reverse psychology..

It won't work on me

You'll have to wait and find out

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I will actually agree to that, considering how highly improbable any sort of traitorous action is. Even if I would hate to stoop to such levels, I suppose that this reinforces the fact that I'm sure that nothing of the sort will happen.

FTL: It wasn't any sort of intentional reverse psychology. I was simply describing my motivations and thought around asking said question. It's always quite clear that you will never answer any of my questions (especially not truthfully). No matter how much I'd have appreciated an explanation, I knew that I wouldn't get one. Honestly, I've said things along those lines before, by your logic, so many things that I have written could be misconstrued at an attempt at reverse psychology. It never is, though. There's no point to it, you'd never answer either way.

FTL: And I have actually found out. While I do not know the context or situation of what happened, I will assume that you most likely had some hand in sending Upsilon a zipbomb, considering the way you phrased your statement of him not replying to me anytime soon (which was a falsity, in the end). Not surprised. But then again, I could be wrong. I only have circumstantial evidence. Either way, it doesn't particularly matter whether you were involved or not. The actual event is over now, not much can be done. And I am far from being a vengeful sort of being.

[eternally-anomalous]

And as part of the apology you mix bleach into your water supply

Do you always explain your entire thought process to everyone you talk to?

Technically my girlfri- dew sent it

I just made the .zip bomb

I would love to do worse to him though

snap his antennae at the very least

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I still have no access to any bleach, Eternal Anomaly. That's impossible for me to do, as I am unable to conjure bleach out of nowhere. Why are you so obsessed with bleach in the first place? It's far from special, even in terms of way to die. It's odd.

FTL: Well, yes. That way everything I say is justified and the way I reached my conclusion is obvious. Though I do not do it for everything, mostly just when I feel it's necessary. I do explain it a lot more during this... argument with you, mostly because my motivations should be very clear by now, yet I shall continue to reiterate them until you comprehend.

FTL: I see. Well, I was right, you were somehow involved in the act. I will not be replying to your further attempts to instigate anger in me. I will not be indulging you. What you wish to do doesn't matter, as you haven't done it.

[eternally-anomalous]

fine then. Put nonspecific chemicals that is sufficiently acidic or basic to damage you in your water supply

your motivations.. for this conversation or in general? Because you still haven't stated your motivations for continuing it

Did that upset you?

That was the least of the things I've thought of to do to him

Using those snapped antennae to stab him to death

Dissolving him in acid

Vivisecting him while he's still conscious

Don't worry, I'll send you his head when I'm done

of course this wouldn't kill him

I'd have to tear out his rarefaction cells

Or maybe figure out how to overheat him

Use him as a test subject to see how an iterator dies from bleach

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I will repeat what I said. You will not be able to provoke me this way. I don't care what messed-up scenarios you've created within your mind. That whole monologue means nothing to me; they're just empty threats. Just like every single other one. Your attempts are pitiful and meaningless, haven't you learned by now? Nothing you could say could ever affect me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i wish they could be anything but empty threats..

If it were up to me I'd have done one of them already

...

I highly doubt that

You almost seem angry right now

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: Wishing that you could do something is very much not the same as actually doing it. Presenting a wish as truth and as an act you would commit in actuality (though I have no doubt that you'd be capable of something similar to what you've described) is simply spread falsehoods, one way or another.

FTL: I am not angry in any way. I'm just rather tired of your repetitiveness and inability to comprehend that what you're doing is pointless.

[eternally-anomalous]

i will do one of those, actually. have fun guessing which one

I'm the repetitive one in this conversation?

when I bring up any topic, your answer is always "I don't care"

You deserve to die from the rot? I don't care. You're disrupting my experiment? I don't care. I call you a sad, pathetic excuse for an Iterator who doesn't have the capacity to understand how miserable your life is and you still don't care

Your part in this conversation is just as pointless

And you're "tired" of it? Most people when saying that mean annoyed, which is a form of anger

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I never said I wasn't repetitive. Is it not well-established by now that I am a hypocrite? Either way, there remains a difference. The responses that I give that boil down to 'I don't care' are all in reply to different things. You keep reiterating the same concepts, which do get that same reply from me as the previous time.

FTL: Besides, why should I care? Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing to me, so why should anything you do or say matter either? That same idea applies to most Iterators out there - I can only name... approximately 5 (now 4, I suppose) that are exceptions. You're not special in any way, I see no reason to heed your opinions.

FTL: I will admit, I am not very good with emotions, but I am pretty sure that there is a divide between the two significant enough to warrant a differentiation in most cases. I believe that anger is... strong, some might say. Meanwhile, this is just... tiredness. One might even call it a form of apathy, though that would be a false statement considering that if it were, I wouldn't be writing this right now. And even then, apathy itself isn't all too surprising to be coming from me, it is what I feel towards many things.

[eternally-anomalous]

What concepts do you suggest I switch to

I'm sure you have some stupid suggestion for me

another I don't care...I thought you wouldn't do those in response to different concepts

Thats a sign of depression, you know

Looks like you're a sad, miserable iterator after all

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I'd rather not be talking to you at all. For once, I do not have any suggestions, because, well, why would I? I suppose the fact of the matter is that you have no new things to say, which in turn does mean that I have nothing new to say. That's how this works, its a loop - really, if you cycle if you will.

FTL: That was not an 'I don't care', that was my explanation of my lack of care. Your opinion doesn't matter in the slightest, which is the reason why I do not care. Perhaps it is an 'I don't care' in and of itself, though I would say that it's of a rather different sort, in some ways. The fact that you're not significant in any fashion is a valid reasoning for my indifference, I believe. Whether or not it proves itself just by being said is irrelevant.

FTL: You're actually the second Iterator who has told me that. Doesn't make it mean any more, as it doesn't particularly matter to me whether or not it's true. And when did you ever doubt that I was, according to you, a n'sad and miserable Iterator'? I will reiterate that I'm doing perfectly well, there is no sadness or misery here. Really, I don't even see the point of all this.

[eternally-anomalous]

...no new things to say..

hmmm..

I have more boyfriends than you

compared to most I'm actually quite significant. How many can say they've killed someone before?

sounds like denial

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I'm perfectly fine with my lack of boyfriends. It is my preferred state after all. Romantic relationships of any sort are incredibly contrived and I will never be engaging in one. So while I suppose that congratulations are in order for the fact that you've managed to get even one person to like you that much, the fact that you have more partners than me is a... good thing, I'd say. We were never even- ...Nevermind.

FTL: Ah, you see, I meant that you're not significant in most ways to me in particular, as that is whose opinion is being discussed here. I should have specified that. As you are correct, most do find you to be of significant note, due to things such as... Well your rarefaction cell collection, for one. I do not preoccupy myself with petty bothers such as that, so that renders you rather insignificant in terms of the impact you have upon me.

FTL: Honestly, one could call almost anything 'denial'. I am not in any sort of denial here. Perhaps to you it looks as if i am 'sad and miserable', but that is not the case. From my perspective, I am doing rather well. Which does not fit with your characterisation of me as 'sad and miserable'. Your opinion of me is inherently skewed no matter what, it doesn't hold much weight, especially when the fact that, as I keep saying, your opinion of me in general means absolutely nothing to me.

[eternally-anomalous]

i thought you wanted another topic, but then you reject the one I gave you. Do you want another one or not, make up your mind

and on that subject, you immediately bring it back to my murders in the next paragraph

...denial

-eternal anomaly

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RP:

FTL: I was simply making a rebuttal to your statement, was I not? This is an argument afterall, no matter how atypical, drawn-out, and inconsistent it is. Choose whichever topic you like, just do not complain if my answers are almost always incredibly similar - them being otherwise would just be lying on my part, and I see no reason to do that.

FTL: I did not? I do not have any sort of clue as to what you are referring to. The only conceivable things that you could be referring to are only tangentially, at most, related to your crimes. Not solid ground to stand upon in a statement. Do correct me if I am wrong, though.

FTL: Fine, I'll play your game here. You too, are in denial. Are you not?