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he's a hero not because of spying on dark lord but because he became responsible for like 100 teens at the age of 21 and didn't killed himself
Snape ♡
Okay, so on the one hand, Snape going alone after the troll makes sense considering he had the job of hunting down Quirrel and seeing what he was doing. On the other hand, the way it was described as Snape being the only one there while all the other teachers went to safety paints a very funny mental image in my mind of Snape grumbling as he dashed around about how they're all exploiting him and hiding behind the youngest of them.
Or the conversation that led to it going like "Severus, go after the troll!" "What, who, me? Why?" "Because you're a fit young man and the rest of us are all old and frail." "O-Old and frail?! Rolanda teaches Quidditch, why can't you send her?" A yell of "SEVERUS" from everyone and off he scurries while grumbling about it under his breath.
Severus being the Youngest Teacher just gives me life ok
I assumed he just did it without anyone telling him to lmao
Lmao that's also very funny, imagining the aftermath when he finally joins them.
"Severus, where the fuck have you been?"
"That's rather unfitting language for a Head of House, Professor McGonagall."
"Oh, shut up, do you understand how difficult it was for us to take count of the students with you missing and unable to vouch for the Slytherins- .... Severus what the fuck is wrong with your leg."
"....nothing. What leg. I don't have a leg."
"Severus Snape, what did you do?"
"...nothing."
"Severus Snape."
"... I... Ah... I remember I have a meeting. With... I have a meeting."
"WHAT meeting, we're all he-Severus don't you fucking dare run away- SEVERUS!"
Hence, Filch must fix it.
With how hyperresponsible Sev is when the students are in actual danger, I definitely think that he went there on his own volition without telling anyone, and OMG such a hilarious image, i love it😭😭😭
Some ghost rider vibe Snape
Eng: JUST LOOK AT THIS CUTEGUY
Рус: ПРОСТО ПОСМОТРИТЕ НА ЭТОГО МИКРОБРО
I like them together.godfather and godson,I know it's not like that in the original,But it's cute, isn't it!
if you observe really closely, and i mean really closely, you'll notice that the marauders fandom is everything wrong with the current world and its dominating political climate.
and i mean it. a fandom knitted out of canonically classist characters who were bullies, instead of the teenagers who sacrificed everything they shouldn't have had to for the sake of rebellion and resistance. the teenagers we've read about over the course of seven books. their losses, their grief, their struggles, their deteriorating mental health. and somehow, a huge chunk of hp readers decided that was not appealing enough for them to deal with. they would rather escape to the blank canvas of the 70s and make up happy fanon content surrounding a bunch of carefree, privileged upper class kids. they are not intellectually driven enough to face the harsher canon.
we often tend to make up excuses for people's inexcusable deeds if they're pretty and rich right ? we see that in today's headlines, pop culture and politics alike, all the time. well, the fandom's approach towards james potter and sirius black should hold up a mirror for you as to what exactly keeps things like the met gala and celebrity worship culture relevant in today's world amidst numerous human rights crises.
snape's bullying is primarily excused and defended for the mere fact that he was not good looking and belonged from a poorer, marginalized class of the wizarding society. if they claim it was because he joined an extremist group, there is a high chance its coming from barty crouch jr stan or a regulus black stan. so its basically disguised hypocrisy.
fetishization of the queer community in the name of inclusiveness, perpetrated largely by the wolfstar fandom, is glaring signal that people who claim to be allies often end up repeating the same cycles queer people work tirelessly to break.
treating women characters as wombs for their gay ships' children, using sapphic narratives as nothing more than mere tools to get rid of said women characters and not meaningful themes, defending sexual humiliation, having this odd sense of moral superiority because they have brainwashed themselves into believing that they're a "seperate" fandom, even though they piggyback off of canon characters and the story itself, no ocs, no original work.
they are everything they claim to be fighting against. they will destroy your safe space while claiming they are the safest spaces in the fandom, they will destroy you emotionally for liking or engaging with canon content when they are doing the exact same thing, they will claim to be morally justified and even different while having zero moral grounds themselves. they are blatantly classist, sexist, and disrespectful to the queer community all while claiming to be the opposite.
the marauders fandom represents everything that are recurring topics we notice in the current political turmoil globally. you would agree with me if you have had the intellectual capacity to pick up real books written by actual established authors and not just spend your free time reading fanfics written by naive teenagers with underdeveloped frontal lobes.
Canonical vs Fanonical Symbolism of Matching Patronuses
There’s a persistent belief in HP fandom that both twin (identical) and paired (same species but different sexes) patronuses are symbolic of love, especially romantic love. But while researching for a different meta, it struck me that these beliefs aren’t canon, but rather an oversimplification of what they truly represent, as well as a projection of a fixation on soulmates and “one true love.”
Note: I am considering canon in this case as the seven HP books only. I am not considering extracanonical sources.
Matching patronuses as symbols of grief
Notably, when Remus explains what patronuses are in PoA and why they change in HBP, he doesn’t mention love at all. A patronus is “a kind of anti-Dementor — a guardian which acts as a shield between you and the Dementor. The Patronus is a kind of positive force, a projection of the very things that the Dementor feeds upon — hope, happiness, the desire to survive.” It changes only due to “a great shock ... an emotional upheaval.”
The three most notable patronuses we see in canon are Harry’s, Severus’s, and Tonks’s, and all three match people they have lost in moments of emotional turmoil. These patronuses do represent love (but not necessarily romantic love) in a way, but it is lost love. They are a projection of grief and how that grief impacts the character’s desires, hopes, and reasons for living.
Harry’s patronus is James, representing a connection to the loss of his parents (who were quite literally acting as protective guardians when they died), and also his desire to keep Sirius, a surrogate father and a direct connection to James, alive. His patronus is steeped in grief and his desire for the loving family he never had.
Next we have Severus’s patronus, which represents the loss of Lily. It is an expression of his grief and guilt, and how his reasons for living and surviving become atonement for his role in Lily's death and the fulfillment of her final wish. (I have a lot more to say on this that I'll put in a separate meta.)
Tonks is where things get really interesting, because I believe Tonks's patronus represents both Remus and Sirius. First, her patronus is never explicitly stated to be a wolf, but a “an immense silvery four-legged creature”. Large canines are connected to both Remus, a werewolf, and Sirius, whose animagus form is a grim (We have someone else whose patronus represent a person's animagus form, don't we?). I don't think Tonks had a romantic relationship with Sirius, but it's clear in the text she is grieving over his death at the time her patronus changed, and according to Hermione, "She thinks it was her fault he died" (Again, sounding like anyone else we know?). What I think is that her grief over Sirius compounded the loss of Remus rejecting her, creating the necessary emotional upheaval for her patronus to change (not to forget Remus's own grief impacting his decision to reject her in the first place), and Remus comes to represent Tonks's hope for a future—because he’s still alive and a romantic relationship remains possible. It's okay if you believe her patronus is only representative of Remus, but I feel like there's too many connections to Sirius to ignore (and I love how it gives her patronus a connection to both Harry's and Snape's as well). It represents lost love either way.
It’s clear these sorts of patronuses are based in love, but it is lost love and the subsequent desires and motivations as a result of that grief that create their forms, not the expression of love on its own.
Twin and paired patronuses as symbols of intended or true love
Canon contains zero explicit examples of identical twin or paired patronuses, and the patronuses we do see do not represent true love nor destiny, so this one is fanon.
In regards to two people sharing the same patronus forms, canon only implies these exist based on Snape's and Tonks's forms, and some assumptions on Harry's part. We never see nor hear about Lily's nor Remus's corporeal patronus forms in the books. As I argued above, what I think is canonical is patronuses that represent specific people, but those do not even represent romantic love, let alone "true love" or some sort of intention or fate.
As for romantic couples having male and female versions of the same species, these just straight up do not exist in canon, even by implication. “What about James and Lily?” you ask. Well, we never learn what James’ patronus is from the text of the books. As I mentioned earlier, Harry’s patronus is very clearly James’s animagus form; Harry, Remus, and Dumbledore all state it is Prongs.
The whole “James and Lily have paired patronuses” thing is from JKR (boo, hiss) online and in interviews. Given the nature of HP fandom, I’m not surprised people glommed onto it and expanded from there. But paired patronuses aren't present in the books at all.
Also, yes, if we’re being pedantic about it, stags and does don’t even come from the same species, but I think it’s safe to assume that JKR didn’t know that and as with a lot of things in HP, should have looked it up but didn’t. Accepting for a moment that James’s patronus is a stag, if we look again at what patronuses actually represent, according to the definition in the books, James having a patronus that matches his animagus form would seem to imply that his “hope, happiness, and desire to survive” is a lot more connected to himself and the Marauders than Lily. So basically, if that’s what JKR intended, she fucked up in multiple ways.
For the record, I think patronuses as symbols of destiny/true love are fun fanon to play with (I’ve used the concept in fics myself). I’m only arguing that it is not canon, but one of those fanon beliefs that is so prevalent that people assume it is. As always, do with this information as you will.
I’m practising the new drawing style with another scene from my last drawing.
Minerva is pulling Severus away from the stairs to stop him from whatever he was doing there.
I’m just reading the books now after all this years and my brain has merged canon and fanon info to create two separeted entities with the same name. I just can’t see them as the same person
The description of Book Snape is amazing. All I can think of is
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doing my semi-annual harry potter re-read. got to the bit where fred made a joke on the radio about snape having greasy hair. and it stretches the imagination a bit, right? because why would he do that, when so few people would get the joke?
but then I remembered that, canonically, nearly everyone in the country goes to hogwarts. imagine trying to have a functional society when almost every person in your society had the same ~6 teachers. minerva mcgonagall is a more stable presence in everyone's life than the government. hogwarts teachers are basically A-list celebrities. everyone knows all the teacher gossip. so of course people know snape has greasy hair. it's no wonder teachers get away with doing so much wild shit in this series. who's gonna stop them?
it also puts dumbledore's political power in more context. it's not just that he's this super-impressive guy with this super-impressive history. he was also in loco parentis for nearly the entire damn country at some point. that's everybody's dad. you might be minister of magic, but albus dumbledore knows that you occasionally wet the bed until you were 13. and he remembers.
minerva mcgonagall is a more stable presence in everyone's life than the government
Well shit, when you say it like that... especially with Hogwarts being THE wizarding school of Great Britain, everyone knows everyone. We even see a smidge of this when the Ministry tries to arrest Dumbledore in book 5 and he quietly shuts down one of the officials, like he personally remembers him as a student.
Not only did Dumbledore defeat Grindelwald, he is also everyone's principal with a painfully accurate memory.
This is the one power Dumbledore actually has: people know him. At least - know him well enough. That's why he prized that he was on a chocolate frog card.
'Supreme Mugwump'? 'Chief Warlock'? Who cares. His titles are comical and numerous specifically because they mean basically nothing. They don't give him any power or respect. He has them taken away because the Minister was in a bad mood.
He doesn't have any real say in the Ministry. The Minister asks him for advice but rarely seems to follow it. Lucius Malfoy makes major decisions over Dumbledore numerous times. Yet he is hard to remove. He does a good job and everyone knows it - they've experienced it. Who do you replace him with...? Wizards are traditionalists, after all. He's been there a long time.
It's his greatest strength. Which is why his greatest weakness was a smear campaign that painted him as both senile and dastardly. Twist subtly how people remember him, say 'he has changed from the how you remember' - and thats what knocks him around.
Hogwarts 1960-1990
Ok having just reread Half-Blood Prince for the audiobook I'm struck with a few things we know about the ways Hogwarts has changed over the past 20-30 years, based on information we have from the books, and honestly, I'm fascinated by the implications.
Goblet of Fire - Apollyon Pringle Whipping Arthur Weasley
So we know that Pringle was the caretaker when Arthur and Molly were at Hogwarts, and the corporal punishment was so severe that it was leaving permanent scarring for things like "being out of bed at 4am to take a walk with your girlfriend." So, this seems like everything in the past was more strict, except..
2. Half-Blood Prince - Slughorn Reports Filch
This is really interesting to me! Slughorn has not been at school for at least a decade, and he's worried that Filch isn't worried about the right things.
3. Order of the Phoenix - Snape's Worst Memory
One thing worth mentioning that I don't see brought up often in discourse about SWM is that no one, at any point, goes or threatens to go for a teacher. I can't think of another altercation of that level in the main storyline where a teacher isn't sent for or arrives partway through. Usually, whenever hexes start flying, it's broken up and everyone sent to the hospital wing very quickly. Speaking of which...
4. Order of the Phoenix - Snape's Worst Memory - 2
Snape, James, and Sirius use spells against each other that in Harry's time would have him in detention for several months. While James and Sirius were in fact often in detention, none of this is treated as being for Intense Crimes like Harry and Draco throwing Crucio and Sectumsepra at each other.
5. Half-Blood Prince - "Petty Crimes"
James and Sirius indeed are often recorded as being in detention for "petty crimes" like hexing fellow students, and McGonagall, Flitwick, Hagrid, etc. treat this fondly in their reminiscences as precursors to the Weasley Twins. It could be memory making them fonder, but I further think that Hogwarts was just generally rougher in those days. And my final point to that effect...
6. Half-Blood Prince - Ginny and the Bat Bogey Hex
I really can't imagine a current teacher congratulating a student on hexing another student and rewarding them about it.
7. Goblet of Fire - Draco as Ferret
Yes, it's obviously Barty in disguise, and yes, he's pretending to be Mad, but it's not like both Barty and Moody didn't go to Hogwarts. Tbh I think it makes the most sense that Transfiguration As A Punishment is something that would have been done decades ago, that Moody would possibly remember.
Okay, conclusion: This all really reminds me of how a lot of Brits I knew in college would reminisce fondly about how when they were young, all the cops were unarmed and it was a good Saturday night to go out and get so rowdy with their friends that they got into fights with cops, whereas these days that's not really DONE. I'm not sure whether the school governors had MORE control, LESS control, were MORE involved, were LESS involved, but it feels like back then, Hogwarts was a much rougher place, and students were expected to be able to take care of themselves, and not rely on teachers to take care of them. Corporal punishment was common, hexes were casual, littering was unimportant.
Tbh, it reminds me of the old boarding school narratives about how the boys were expected to fight, expected to lie about fighting, and expected to take their punishment without complaint, because it toughens you up for the real world.
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8. Chamber of Secrets - Albus sends Tom back to bed
This could be seen as preferential treatment to a Prefect, or knowing he has a good reason, but when we go up against Arthur being strung up and whipped for being out of bed, or even Harry getting detention for being caught out of bed in his first year, it seems very indulgent.
9. Half-Blood Prince - They'll All Be In Trouble
in general, being Out Of Bed seems to be much less of an issue in the 40s ("run along") than in the 60s (whipping) or the 90s (detention). Idk what to think about that.
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It reminds me, a little, of how cruel McGonagall can be in her punishments - and how lenient, when she feels like it.
She is happy to take enough points from first years that they face real social stigma for half the year, just for sneaking out of bed and maybe tricking another boy. She was also yanking Draco by the ear. Even without the scary Forbidden Forest detention - that is harsh.
Then the next year - she teary-eyed lets Ron and Harry walk without escort to 'go see Hermione'... despite there being strict rules put in place because the Chambers were open again. Very much like Albus letting Tom 'hurry off to bed' even though its 'best not to roam the corridors these days. Not since...'
Filch also loves 'the good old days' of hurting students. Fascination with torture - or actual distaste in recent policy change...? hm...
But something seems different since the early 1960s when Arthur was at school, at the very least. Kids aint getting whipped/hexed now. Even in the 1970s, when evidently teacher reaction to bullying was still very lax - Sirius and James were getting detentions, not hurt.
I wonder if Albus Dumbledore becoming headmaster between 1966 and 1970 (probably the later end of that) had anything to do with it.
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"It seemed impossible that I would be able to come to Hogwarts. Other parents weren't likely to want their children exposed to me. But then Dumbledore became Headmaster, and he was sympathetic." (Remus, PoA ch18)
Remus was bitten in 1965. Until Dumbledore became headmaster his parents deemed it impossible for him to go to Hogwarts.
If you take Pottermore into account - fair enough if no - it seems Remus was nearer Hogwarts age when Dumbledore broke into their house, gave him crumpets and said he wanted Remus to attend.
apparently, Severus needs 30 whole seconds to understand that he's on fire