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THE CAGE
working on some more prints
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there’s something very wrong with me, it’s called ‘I don’t want to do anything, ever’ and they said it’s chronic
Very good, thank you
deltarune + portal 1 crossover :o)!!
top 10 things ive seen this has me giggling like a lunatic in public
I had my own crackpot deltarune theory. I think that the delta rune can mean either two lightners and a darkner under the angel or two monsters and a human under the angel. I came to this conclusion because of asriel's god of hyperdeath form from undertale, which uses hearts for the triangles of the stylized delta rune which makes up his body.
Further, I think that kris, noelle, and asriel is a valid reading of who the prophecy is talking about. This is because of a combination of the ambiguity of the girl in the prophecy, and catty's sermon in chapter 4 where she talks about how cute the horned hero is (it wouldn't make sense for her to just intuitively know about ralsei and it seems to parallel the undelivered letter from asriel to catty susie can find in the jacket she's wearing if you have no items).
After all, three old friends fighting a physical manifestation of their grief over the fourth friend's disappearance is a strong premise - though one that probably wouldn't go well. Considering kris is wracked with awful guilt over something they may or may not have done, noelle is so terrified of standing up for herself that she lets everyone walk all over her, and azzy is a former gifted kid who I imagine has unaddressed people pleasing tendencies (this one is a headcanon as of yet but I don't think it's too big of a leap).
And also I believe this's the interpretation that'd be the most favorable for whatever carol is doing, since she has perceived parental authority over all three of them, on top of likely knowing exactly how to reopen their old emotional wounds to make them compliant.
"why what a interesting premise" i say taking suspiciously theory shaped notes
Honestly i haven't thought too much about the 3 heros and who they could be... i like to believe that the trickster toby has duped us all and the 3 heros are actually just kris, susie, ralsei but the noelle thing is also def possible....
asriel MAYBE. it could happen. but in 3 chapters? perhaps. we'll find out.,,
I do wonder if the whole 'asriel is at college thing' was just a placeholder toby used to say "he does exist, he's just not here right now don't freak out" but then we took too seriously. maybe he wont even play a huge part. genuinely we just don't know at this stage i guess.
I don't know, i think a part of me is just hoping we end up with soul aching teeth gritting trauma and joy from whatever happens. Susie just needs a moderately happy ending or i might explode.
wondering about deltarune and kris's repressed memory that's been indicated
this is just a possibility - i honestly think it could go one way or the other - but what if kris didn't necessarily do anything that warrants guilt, but the repressed memory makes them think they might have? it wouldn't be the first time stories made use of a character misremembering what had happened
it could go either way and kris would still deserve compassion because they were a child at the time, but it is something worth noting imo just for the lore implications. whatever happened it does seem that carol is holding kris's guilt over their head, and yet the fact that kris can't even actually remember what happened gives a little ick that either dess, carol or both use that undefined guilt to their advantage. it could even determine how the story goes
if kris caused or was at fault for dess's death somehow they'd have a larger hurdle to get through in terms of going against her/carol, but would have a pretty rewarding payoff if it's done right. if kris _wasn't_ at fault, then remembering the incident clearly could help speedrun kris's decisions to not follow the will of other people, actually
DELTARUNE SPOILERS!!!
(...has it been long enough i can stop saying that yet?) oooohhh i could kiss you for asking me this ty anon
I think if something like that was to happen, which, i wouldn't say is probable but is possible, tricky tony could absolutely pull it off. It would certainly be difficult though, as it creates a whole mirage of other questions that would have to be answered.
Why did the memories get repressed then? How did carol/big bad evil person get a whiff of that, and use it against kris? Who would actually be to blame?
Let's say, for the sake of theorising, The traumatising events causing this rabbithole of thoughts are infact Dess's Death. Say they were doing magic and it went arwy, and dess ends up dead. Kris is the main one present, though not at fault. Perhaps they got attacked by a bear in the woods and dess defended them, i dunno. // The main emphasis is that it wasn't Kris's fault however dess is now dead and they are main witness/factor #1.
Survivors guilt leads to repressed memories. Repressed memories leads to a larger, guiltier sense of guilt. Suddenly you have a depressed rabid teenager with the internal belief that they killed someone, even though that's not the case (entirely.) That's the summary of how it would most likely happen anyway. We won't know till... something like 2027.... *grits teeth* TRICKY TONY WHEN I CATCH YOU BUDDY. WHEN I CATCH YOU. But genuinely, i think that would be a great plot point. It would lead to lots of character development, especially if it took Susie and Noelle and everyone else helping kris accept the 'true' version of events. Emotional character redemption arc stuff.
"whatever happened it does seem that carol is holding kris's guilt over their head, and yet the fact that kris can't even actually remember what happened" ^^^ So this is interesting, specifically because of the "kris can't even actually remember" part. This kind of will vary between people, but i don't think kris has forgotten. I think Kris knows what happened, atleast in the littlest bit. It haunts them. Maybe they've forgotten parts of the truth, and it's more of a torment of the things they do know, but all in all i do not think Kris's memories have been entirely supressed and forgotten. Memories, when suppressed, aren't totally gone. They stay shelved in your brain, except in the very dusty cobwebs where the neurotransmitters have closed off and don't transmit much anymore. They're still present, they're still there, you just can't consciously access them at will. Kris knows what happened, they know the facts, but it's probably more of a retelling of the facts version than a "i experienced this" version. They know they're (allegedly) at fault. They feel the guilt. They've done something wrong. But that's what they've been told, a outside version that pieces together of what they could actually remember. Fragments of the truth pieced together by a narrative, that probably frames them in a bad lighting to ensure complete emotional manipulation and torment. Joy! My current running theory as to what the traumatising events are is that Dess knew how dysphoric Kris was about being a human, and tried to help them by using magic/spells to turn them into a monster, like the rest of their family. And it went wrong. etc etc traumatising death/stuckinthecode/carolmanipulation
Honestly, anything could happen. Toby 'radiation' fox has a rampant reputation for taking our theories and thoughts and throwing them STRAIGHT out of the window. (..or maybe it's a curveball because he seems to like writing queer characters.) In conclusion we know nothing toby is insane and we (yes WE) are insane about his insanity. (both yourself and anyone else reading these please feel free to ask me more i love yapping about this stuff. me when i get to be publicly clinically insane) (to the person who asked, if you want to and feel comfortable please reveal yourself! i'd like to moot you- i need more deltarune fanatics in my midst :))
post bg3 first playthrough:
what the fuck bro
hyperfixation please stay with me long enough to complete the project. hyperfixation do not fade. hyperfixation finish what you started for the love of god
wanted to draw something silly after my last post<3
kris seeing through their hand in the shadow crystal. all the "severed hand"/"guy who wakes up without a hand" references in the new chapters. berdly having his entire arm paralyzed in the hospital if you didn't spare him in chapter 2. toby fox talking about his chronic wrist pain often preventing him from coding and playing. learning to navigate his disability and how working in a team makes developing games possible for him, even if they don't perfectly represent his vision. the piano as THEE representation of kris' freedom and individuality outside of their role as The Cage. the option to tell susie that Kris will keep playing if she learns to play piano too...
if kris loses their hand and deltarune ends with a 3-hand concert where susie plays alongside them i am going to walk straight into the ocean
That idea makes me scream and cry so i drew it
that drawing and that idea make me scream and cry bro this game is gonna kill us all emotionally
if all the world is against susie then i am against the world
You know what? I actually really like this
Because this is bullying, plain and simple
Catti and Jockington are bullies to Susie
But it's not the stereotypical bully situation, it's not the
"I'm an evil person and sense I'm evil I'm gonna be mean and bully an innocent person"
it's more complex than that, Catti and Jockington think that Susie is evil and dangerous, they have completely dehumanize her (or i guess "demonsterize"???) so much so that they think THEY ARE GOOD GUYS ! they think they are punishing the evil! the hero scaring the dragon away "stop terrorizing the poor people of this village! go away you terrible beast! and never come back"
in their minds they are the good guys, Susie is the bully, and so she deserves to be treated badly
but what happens is that Susie just wanned some friends and Catti and Jockington are telling her "no you are not welcomed here, we hate you"
i wouldn't be surprised if they are the ones that spread all the rumors about Susie being a bad guy and beating people, because Jockington is the popular kid and Catti has this persona of "the quiet smart girl" so of course the other kids think "well of course they can't be wrong"
and now that Kris is Susie's friend they have been dehumanize too! and probably Noelle too!
it will take a dark world adventure for them to change their minds and that could be a very cool and awesome way to explore this subject, but this post is too long already lol
the knowerrrrrrr the waaatcche (gets looked at)
deer in the headlights
shitpost crackhead deltarune theory thats maybe possible (spoilers???)
dess is the original soul holder and bestowed tragedy unto kris like we are doing to noelle and that's why kris is traumatised and can never wash it all off
dess (soul) -> traumatised kris
dess -> kill soul, ...kill herself in turn? get trapped in code bc of that?
kris (traumatised)
kris (gets soulified)
kris -> traumatised noelle
am i cooking chat (i'm not)
should i write this into a actual theory?? should i think about it more?? lmk
my first death in my blind playthrough was by that damned cooler
i think the funniest thing about utdr is that toby fox made the "true" ending end with asriel going "oh your name's frisk and you're a completely different person from [PlayerName] sorry for treating you like them" and then the genocide ending has Chara show up like "hi i'm the heart you were piloting. i've been a different person this whole time which you would understand if you paid attention to the vhs tapes. anyways thank you for showing me that everyone deserves violence, including You, [PlayerName]." and kill you. and then the entire thesis statement of deltarune is "you, [PlayerName], are an interloper possessing Kris. Kris does not want you here. Kris wants you dead get out get out get out get out" and we somehow have a not-insignificant amount of the player base going "well they don't actually SAY anything so they're CLEARLY player inserts which means i can give them all whatever binary pronouns i want". i think toby fox should lay a curse upon the internet. not some small potatoes "do you like the red room" nonsense i'm talking straight up earthquakes and fires and shit.