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Lightsabers are not swords... but the blades aren't weightless either.

I see a lot of lightsaber fights analyzed through this lens of real-life melee combat logic, and it just doesn't work. Similarly, attempts to fully quantify the difference between lightsabers and real swords don't work either.

Here's why lightsaber combat is such a fantasy that it values artistic interpretation over logic, and why that's good:

Element 1: The combatants can see the future

Or rather, they have a degree of precognition. Jedi reflexes aren't about moving "inhumanly fast" so much as reacting to something before it even occurs. This is how they're able to deflect essentially gunfire with a sword. They can begin a defensive move before a trigger is pulled.

So, against another lightsaber wielder, how do you beat someone who can see your moves before you make them?

blue-mint-winter

The metaphysical battle over the Force

“To say that the Force works in mysterious ways is to admit one’s ignorance, for any mystery can be solved through the application of knowledge and unrelenting effort. As we had our way with the Senate, and as we will soon have our way with the Republic and the Jedi, we will have our way with the Force.”

The Darth Plagueis novel contains some really interesting backstory and information about the Jedi-Sith conflict in the time after the Ruusan reformation. The Sith were hidden, but they remained active. However, their battles against the Jedi were fought not on the physical plane, but in the Force itself.

According to the quote, Darth Plagueis aimed to take control of the Force, change it and make it serve him. But it wouldn't be possible without the previous Sith's contributions.

One hundred years earlier, Tenebrous’s Twi’lek Master had opened a small rend in the fabric of the Force, allowing the dark side to be felt by the Jedi Order for the first time in more than eight hundred years. That had been the inauguration, the commencement of the revenge of the Sith. And now the time had come to enlarge that rend into a gaping hole, a gaping wound, into which the Republic and the Jedi Order would to their own hazard be drawn.

This suggests that the Sith use the dark side to damage the Force, as in the energy field. I think that's a strong argument against "the dark side is a natural part of the Force and needs to be equal to the light". There's more explanation about the circumstances of wounding the Force:

Where an extremely low midi-chlorian count might have bolstered the odds of survival, nature had instead made the ysalimir species strong in the Force. So strong, in fact, that several of the creatures acting in concert could create a Force bubble encompassing kilometers rather than meters. In a sense, the Jedi Order had done the same on a galactic scale, Plagueis believed, by bathing the galaxy in the energy of the light side of the Force; or more accurately by fashioning a Force bubble that had prevented infiltration by the dark side, until Tenebrous’s Master had succeeded in bursting the bubble, or at least shrinking it. How the Order’s actions could be thought of as balancing the Force had baffled generations of Sith, who harbored no delusions regarding the Force’s ability to self-regulate.

There are several interesting points here:

The Jedi created the protective Force bubble around the galaxy that prevented the dark side from infiltrating it. I wonder if the Jedi did it on purpose or it just happened without their awareness. Definitely it required the entire Order to create a galactic bubble. I think at least Yoda and the High Council had to be aware of it. Plagueis assumes they made the bubble knowingly. Then why couldn't they repair it during all those years?

The Sith know about the Force's ability to self-regulate. Plagueis calls it also as the Force striking back against manipulations. That means that if it's left alone without any interference, it will repair and balance itself. The Jedi Force bubble doesn't have anything to do with balance then.

Continuing the work of his predecessors, Plagueis withdrew himself from the outside world and focused on manipulating the Force. He was like a dark wizard - living alone in a haunted castle, experimenting with necromancy and creating life, often mutated.

All that mattered was that, almost a decade earlier, they had succeeded in willing the Force to shift and tip irrevocably to the dark side. Not a mere paradigm shift, but a tangible alteration that could be felt by anyone strong in the Force, and whether or not trained in the Sith or Jedi arts. The shift had been the outcome of months of intense meditation, during which Plagueis and Sidious had sought to challenge the Force for sovereignty and suffuse the galaxy with the power of the dark side.

Plagueis and Sidious used the dark side to interfere with the Force. They destroyed the balance and so the Force created Anakin in response.

For while toppling the Jedi Order and the Republic was essential to the task of restoring order to the galaxy, that goal belonged to the realm of the ordinary—to the world that was nothing more than a byproduct of the eternal struggle between the light and dark forces, both of which were beyond any concepts of good or evil. The greater goal of the Sith involved toppling the Force itself, and becoming the embodiment of the galaxy’s animating principle.

I admit the talk about "tipping the Force to the light/dark" or "light and dark forces beyond good and evil" might be confusing as it can be easily interpreted as supporting the beloathed "light and dark equal" interpretation. I think it ultimately comes down to the distinction between natural dark and unnatural/Sith dark. Plagueis even argues that dark preceded the light. However, Plagueis is a Sith trying to destroy death while Jedi like Yoda teach to accept it as a part of natural order.

Why is there a dark side energy on Dagobah? It's a planet full of life, maybe of the slimy, swamp kind, but what makes it dark? The only inhabitant is just Yoda. It's a good example of the natural dark. Even the dark side cave isn't actually dangerous, as it merely showed Luke a vision reflecting the fear and anger inside of him.

Plagueis claims that the dark side was used first to bring order, tame nature and bring evolution to sentient beings. Mace Windu in Shatterpoint explains that the Jedi fight for peace, which is an unnatural state brought about by civilization. So both the Sith and the Jedi claim to do the same thing - bring order. The only difference between them is their methods and intentions. Plagueis never once in his entire life genuinely helped anyone. He lied, manipulated, cheated, killed. His drive to achieve great power was motivated by his fear of death and he only worked for his own benefit without intending to share the knowledge with anyone else, except his apprentice. The Sith only seek power and control, while actually not needing others and being perfectly capable of surviving on their own in the jungle as kings of the beasts.

On the other hand, the Jedi were ineffectual in the corrupted Republic, but they dedicated their lives to serve the needs of the many. They build the civilization and it's even their whole raison d'etre - they need it to justify their Order's existence. The Sith don't need civilization but they can exploit and warp it in their pursuit of personal power.

Going back to the meaning of tipping the balance, Plagueis actually offers an explanation that makes sense:

As we attempt to wrest the powers of life and death from the Force, as we seek to tip the balance, the Force resists our efforts. Action and reaction, Sidious. Something akin to the laws of thermodynamics. I have been audacious, and the Force has tested me the way Tenebrous sought to. Midi-chlorians are not easily persuaded to execute the dictates of one newly initiated in the mysteries. The Force needs to be won over, especially in work that involves the dark side. It must be reassured that a Sith is capable of accepting authority. Otherwise it will thwart one’s intentions. It will engineer misfortune. It will strike back.”

The Sith convinced the Force they will follow its will better than the Jedi. Plagueis explains the circumstances of the Jedi losing the favour of the Force:

But in any case this is why the Jedi Order has descended into decadence and is dragging the Republic down with it. Because the Jedi have lost the allegiance of the Force. Yes, their ability to draw energy from the Force continues, but their ability to use the Force has diminished. Each of their actions engenders an opposite, often unrecognized consequence that elevates those attuned to the dark side; that buoys the efforts of the Sith and increases our power.

The Jedi Order in their current form became the guardians of the status quo. Peace, but not justice. They don't effect any positive change in the galaxy, either by using the official structure of the government or by going independent. The Republic is stagnant and rotting like a bad apple. The Force wants to change things, after all life is meant to be dynamic, not static, to evolve, so the Sith became a better option to carry out the will of the Force.

Undoubtedly the many generations of the Sith and their machinations had a hand in creating this situation which calls for the reforms but the Jedi Order is unable to make them through the Republic's policy. It's very telling that the chancellors started swearing to fight the corruption around 200 years before Palpatine was elected, which coincides with the time when Tenebrous' Master pierced the Jedi Force bubble.

The Sith and the dark side have a negative influence on people, even Jedi, and their surroundings. A good example are effects of the Sith holocrons and artifacts. What about the influence of the Jedi and the light on the Sith?

Other than Vader's redemption thanks to Luke on OT, the Darth Plagueis book also contains some clues pointing towards confirming that the tables can be turned. There is one story of a Sith Master, Darth Gravid, turning back to the light, which Plagueis tells as a cautionary tale. Darth Gravid was said to go insane from trying to combine Jedi and Sith teachings. He was killed by his apprentice in 533 BBY.

What's interesting is the lack of reason for Gravid to attempt to use the light. From other Sith lords' many examples, it's clear that usually they become darker and darker over time. My theory for why Gravid went against the grain is that he was affected by the creation of the Jedi Force Bubble. It would make sense, especially with the significance of his role in the Sith history as his actions resulted in the major loss of the Sith lore and knowledge.

On the timeline Gravid is placed right in the middle between Darth Bane and Palpatine's rise as the Emperor. This placement is deliberate and points out he was a half way milestone in the history of Bane's line.

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in star wars fandom how is everything about anakin's fall always everyone else's fault except the guy who personally designed it to be a no hit run of Sith Apprentice Generator IV

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in legends palpatine wrote this book of monsters about sith creations and included an entry for darth vader, and described the amount of joy he got from turning a nine year old into a war machine. the entry ends with maybe the most chilling line in anything even star wars adjacent, where palpatine says, "given the opportunity to create vader again, i would, and with glee," or thereabouts. the entire entry is haunting, but that final line is completely fucking chilling; palpatine is the ultimate, insidious force, and no matter how long it took, how difficult it was, or what anakin did to him, palpatine wouldn't have stopped. even after being killed by vader, palpatine would still go back and do it all over again, even if it ended in vader killing him. palpatine - famous for the ways he's attempted to cheat death - would risk it all just for the joy of curbstomping a nine year old's soul into hell one more time. and this is just something that exists that we can all read

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what you all thought i was joking? you all thought i was joshin? i was crafting joshuas? you thought i was fucking around?

a-galactic-prince

Sith naval forces..harrower class dreadnought

frannyzooey

For the first time in my life, a non filthy thought in the shower:

Think about all the fan fiction you’ve read — all the hours of entertainment, or something to ease your boredom or to soothe your sleepless night.

All you’ve learned from it — either a writing skill, a new vocabulary word, a new structure or something about interpersonal relationships, or how to deal with hard times in your life.

And all the fic that you remember — your very favorite, some that you still recall scenes from, some that still make you smile or make you ache.

All the fic you have saved on your phone to reread over and over again.

Writers: YOU write that. YOU DO. You write something so extraordinary, something so real but also something so filthy and fun and the perfect way to soothe a frayed mind or just enjoy for pure pleasure — YOU WRITE THAT.

Isn’t that incredible to think of your stories being those above things for someone?

Because they are (for me, for one, but others too) — and we are so lucky you share it with us.

Also — how amazing it is to know that all the things you cherish about fic, you’ve given as a gift to others? ❤️

tookas-have-teeth

“The Jedi’s rules are outdated and don’t work” someone please point out to me whether it’s “don’t murder people when you’re pissed off” or “learn to accept that everything changes with time” that is the outdated stupid rule the Jedi follow.

rainbow-companion

The jedi rules that are outdated are the teachings along the line of “jedi are 100% light force users and don’t have any dark” and “bottle up your emotions instead of learning how to cope with them” that stemmed from the first over time. Also the whole “no attachments” thing. Like come on guys, that’s literally impossible.

tookas-have-teeth

“jedi are 100% light force users and don’t have any dark”

Facing your own dark side is literally one of the major things Jedi teach. Where on earth did you get this idea.

“bottle up your emotions instead of learning how to cope with them”

Um, no, that’s not a thing the Jedi teach. The Jedi teach “learn to manage yourself so you don’t murder people with your psychic wizard powers when you’re pissed off” which is quite frankly the responsible thing to do when you have psychic wizard powers that you can easily murder people with. Managing your emotions even when you don’t have psychic wizard powers is the responsible thing to do.

Also the whole “no attachments” thing. Like come on guys, that’s literally impossible.

It’s very possible to accept that things change and that letting go is necessary and that being possessive of other people is bad, which is what non-attachment is about.

gffa

Here, have some moments from canon: Facing your own dark side is literally one of the major things Jedi teach.

The whole point of The Gathering in TCW is that the Jedi are teaching their younglings to confront the fear within themselves, they can’t be saying that they don’t have any dark if one of their most sacred rites is based around actively confronting the fear within themselves and learning to not be trapped by it. “For a Jedi, there is no greater challenge or honor,” is how they describe the trip to Ilum, the one where each of the younglings has to face visions in the Force of the things they fear, whether the fear of missing their chance or their over-reliance on technology/not trusting themselves and their connection to the Force, a fear of heights, a fear of failure, the whole reason they go there is to learn to get over that fear. And this is one of the major themes of Lucas’ movies!

“All of my movies are about one thing. Which is the fact that the only prison you’re in is the prison of your mind. And if you decide to open the door and get out, you can. There’s nothing stopping you.“ –George Lucas (American Voices, 2015) That’s acknowledgement of the fear within your own mind, that’s the source of what will trap you, if you don’t let it go. And this is what they’re teaching to their younglings, a ceremony that is on their most sacred land–this message is deeply important to the Jedi. “bottle up your emotions instead of learning how to cope with them”

Obi-Wan literally says otherwise in the show. (He’s talking about romantic feelings in this context, but that’s part of the spectrum of emotion and how the Jedi are like, “Yah, feelings are normal, but what you do with them–given that the Force works based on your emotions, like the dark side IS MADE OF anger, hate, fear, etc.–is the thing that you have to work on.” But also, like. We see Jedi expressing emotion! Jedi who are on the High Council usually, even! These are not outliers or “unlike the other Jedi”, these are the ones that are the leaders of the Jedi Order and you can see what emotion they’re experiencing just looking at them:

They teach that emotions are natural, they’re valuable, but you cannot let them rule you:

That even from a young age, they’re taught that the dark side is part of them:

Lucas says it pretty clearly, the Jedi ways work: “The fact that everything must change and that things come and go through his life and that he can’t hold onto things, which is a basic Jedi philosophy that he isn’t willing to accept emotionally and the reason that is because he was raised by his mother rather than the Jedi. If he’d have been taken in his first year and started to study to be a Jedi, he wouldn’t have this particular connection as strong as it is and he’d have been trained to love people but not to become attached to them.” –George Lucas, Attack of the Clones commentary Also the whole “no attachments” thing. Like come on guys, that’s literally impossible. The Jedi are Buddhists, therefore the Buddhist definition of attachment is the relevant term, not attachment in the western Attachment Theory definition. Which means attachment is the unwillingness to let someone go because you are afraid to live without them, attachment means you would let a thousand people die to save one person because you couldn’t live without them, attachment means you cannot let go. (”[The Jedi] were never designed to be a superhero or anything like that. They were designed to be a Buddhist monk, who happened to be a very good warrior.” –George Lucas, Star Wars Archives 1999-2005)

That’s how the Jedi use it every time it’s mentioned in the movies and TCW and that’s how George Lucas defines it. “[Anakin] turns into Darth Vader because he gets attached to things. He can’t let go of his mother; he can’t let go of his girlfriend. He can’t let go of things. It makes you greedy. And when you’re greedy, you are on the path to the dark side, because you fear you’re going to lose things, that you’re not going to have the power you need.” –George Lucas, Time Magazine “The Jedi are trained to let go. They’re trained from birth,” he continues, “They’re not supposed to form attachments. They can love people- in fact, they should love everybody. They should love their enemies; they should love the Sith. But they can’t form attachments.” –George Lucas, The Making of Revenge of the Sith “[Jedi Knights] do not grow attachments, because attachment is a path to the dark side. You can love people, but you can’t want to possess them. They’re not yours. Accept that they have a fate. Even those you love most are going to die. You can’t do anything about that. Protect them with your lightsaber, but if they die they were going to die. there’s nothing you can do. All you can do is accept that fact.” –George Lucas, Star Wars Archives 1999-2005 Attachment is a path to the dark side, that’s how Star Wars and the Jedi work. It’s not the same thing as caring about people, loving people, it’s much closer to the Buddhist definition of attachment and real people every single day really do live their very real lives with non-attachment, it’s very much possible and, it’s totally cool if it’s not for you! That’s fine, you should do what is right for you! But that doesn’t mean the very real people who live a life of non-attachment are bad for it, just because it’s not the path for you.

#some people simply cannot cope with the idea that they'd be bad at being a jedi if they got isekai'd as they are

radiosummons

Maybe I’m the dumb one or whatever, but … I like Anakin because he’s the worst.

I know some of y'all really love him for reasons and for some of you those reasons mostly just involve doing a bunch of insane mental gymnastics to somehow “justify” his heinous af choices (i.e. trying to blame the Jedi for literally every dumb little thing he did, but whatever).

But, guys … come the fuck on. The reason Anakin’s such a great character (please note I said *character,* not a *person*) is because he’s a selfish piece of shit that ruined the lives of everyone he loved and then made the entire galaxy suffer for his mistakes.

My guy, that is tragedy and hubris at its fucking finest. That is some A-grade quality shit right there.

I’m really starting to doubt if some of y'all have ever read/experienced a piece of media where the main character isn’t a paragon of all things good and moral. You don’t have to flip over backwards to justify liking a villain.

Personally, I never want Anakin to change. I want him to keep making shit choices, I want him to keep hurting people and being a selfish butthurt dictator prick. I like that he’s a piece of shit that abused the trust that his loved ones put in him because it fucking hurts to see him become the monster he is.

It hurts to see a character you care so much about actively making the choice to turn themselves into their absolute worst. It’s downright heartbreaking to see them hurt their loved ones and it’s all the more tragic when their love transforms into selfish obsession and possession.

Yes, Palpatine did manipulate Anakin. BUT-Anakin still made the choice to kill Mace, to burn down the Jedi Temple, to rob the 501st of their autonomy (something a former slave should never have been okay with btw), forced his men to participate in killing fucking children, killed his own wife and endangered the lives of his own unborn children, attacked and attempted to kill his brother/father figure, and then continued to subjugate and destroy the lives of millions, if not outright billions for nearly two whole decades.

(He also tortured his son and daughter, their friends, their allies, etc. And like … maimed his own son ‘cause like why the fuck not? Fuck, I haven’t even gone into detail about the absolute horror he put Obi-wan and Ahsoka through. Fuck me).

Anakin is the worst. And he’s an amazing character. Both of these facts can exist at the same time.

Tldr: y'all are really out here acting like Anakin wasn’t a big boy who didn’t make big boy choices. Let him be a prick.

radiosummons

Nah, @nonius-the-ninth you did good. Excellent work.

nevertheless-moving

literally only watched the first episode but good lord the vibes between owen and obi-wan are just SO rancid i love it so much its even more painful than i imagined kenobi didn’t just make a sad little model spaceship, he was inspired to make it while sadly watching luke from sad little space bincoculars AND he spent like all his none money on it, and he bought the parts from the jawa who regularly steals from him AND he delivered it in the middle of the night!! it was so sad! it was so sweet! and then OWEN THREW IT BACK AT HIMasfdjlkghadlfkfm dying. that’s right owen!! fucking kick him while he’s down!! i love it so much!!!!

desperately want an au where owen and beru and obi-wan survive, and all go to yavin together. all i want from this au is owen and obi-wan having to spend time with each other, because, you know, luke. and i want owen to NEVER let up on Obi-Wan. Just constantly ruthlessly drag the famous jedi in front of the entire rebellion and the force itself

owen: you fucker. you absolute fucker. ben: i assume you’re talking to me. owen: I TOLD you to stay away from luke! look what you did! look at what you’ve done! ben: to be fair he came to me, and— owen: so you immediately gave him a laser sword??? what the fuck is wrong with you? ben: I— owen: this is why i didn’t want you around! literally the first time you talked to him my house burnt down! ben: that— owen: and then you IMMEDIATELY told him that DARTH VADER killed his father? is that even true? you never even mentioned vader when you first brought him!! ben: ah— luke: you brought me to my aunt and uncle? owen: and then you fucking put him in the SAME ROOM AS VADER? Are you trying to get him killed or are you just a moron? ben: that wasn’t…that wasn’t— owen: get off this planet and stay the hell away from my family ben: right, right, i’ll just—i’ll just go— mon mothma, general akbar, luke skywalker, etc: mon mothma, general akbar, luke skywalker, etc: WAIT DON’T ACTUALLY LEAVE— Owen: stay out of this!

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lordsmaf

I like how like… with every new piece of Star Wars media that paints Tatooine as more and more of a shithole where everyone is a murderous crimelord the funnier it gets that Luke Skywalker just grew up on this planet completely normal. Like I’m envisioning a normal day at Tosche Station where a cyborg biker and a Twi'lek prostitute are stabbing each other over a bag of spice and then it just pans over to this fresh-faced nancy boy sitting at a table sipping on his blue milk going “oh golly, I sure do love power converters!”

neurotypical-karen

Ok listen. Listen to me. Sometimes rural towns are just like that. I know someone who shot his cousin because they were playing with live ammo in their backyard and he never went to court. One time a guy who was driving my friend to school said “watch this” and snorted cocaine off of the steering wheel as he was turning a corner. And at the same time you will graduate alongside people who are completely innocent and have no idea shit went down. You will meet 17-year-olds who still don’t know how pregnancy works. This is one of the most realistic decisions in Star Wars

aspiringwarriorlibrarian

Luke thought his father was a navigator on a spice freighter, brought a rifle out to the desert with him in case he ran into the Sand People, and immediately got to wiping 3p0 and R2 of any identifying features because he knew the Jawas stole them. Luke knew damn well what kind of planet he lived on, but since he wasn’t personally involved in it crime was just another boring chore.

arielsojourner

Luke: I want to join the Rebellion.

Uncle Owen: What do you want to leave the planet for, huh? Treason here not good enough for you all of a sudden? We’ve got plenty of laws to violate right here.

Luke: I want to make a difference!

Uncle Owen: You can commit crime at home when your chores are done. No need to go anywhere else.

antianakin

Honestly, a part of me doesn't believe that Padme would have ever gotten into a relationship with/married Anakin if he hadn't murdered the Tuskens.

Like that seems to be such a clear turning point for them. Whether you believe that her reasoning for brushing it off is that she's racist towards the Tuskens, she's got trauma surrounding the occupation of Naboo and complicated feelings towards the Neimoidians/Trade Federation, whatever. This is the moment that Anakin reveals himself. This is the first real moment between them, the first time Anakin drops his entire charade, any attempt at politeness or civility or flirtation. Even in the two prior moments (packing scene where he complains about Obi-Wan and the fireplace confession), he's holding onto that last little bit of his self-control. He loses more and more as he goes along, until he hits THIS MOMENT. And this is the moment where Padme sees him as he truly is. Full of rage. Full of pain. Full of fear. Enough to murder an entire village down to the last child.

Before that moment, she's always telling him no. She goes with him to Tatooine, sure, but she's still holding herself a little bit apart, a little more distant, right up until he comes back with his mother's corpse in his arms. And she tells him that to be angry is to be human, which to me implies a certain amount of knowledge of exactly how it feels to be that angry. Angry enough to want to kill those who'd hurt you or the people you loved. THIS is the Anakin she loves, for better or worse. She's not necessarily all that into the polite Padawan, or the whiny teenager who can barely flirt. But the murderous young man? The grieving son?

She can relate to that. She can CONNECT to that. She can UNDERSTAND that. And so that's when she falls for him. Everything else is just icing at best. She loves the rage, knowing exactly what it leads to.

If Anakin had held himself back with the Tuskens, if he had chosen not to hurt them and held himself back, or if Shmi had simply not been taken at all, I don't know if Padme would have married him. A part of her WANTS that person, even as he frightens her.

monjustmon

You know... I had never considered that before. It's a whole 'nother perspective if the massacre isn't a deterrent Padme incredibly got over for some non-determinate reason and is instead a reason on itself.

I always figured the distance from not having seen the violence at the Tuskens but seeing Anakin crying awakened some sort of sense of being needed that she wanted. And that, I suppose, still tracks with the idea that if it hadn't happened, the relationship wouldn't have either. But if she outright liked the concept of the murder, been conscious of it in that stark way where it gets to her emotionally, but positively?

It would make me completely re-examine her character.

#i've seen a couple of posts working on this sort of deal and honestly i fuck with that

ahsoka-in-a-hood

Unfortunately the stark fact is that Anakin objectively did treat the clones worse than other jedi did. That he was pretty good with them for three years might make him better than Krell but I doubt other jedi would have been prepared to override their free will entirely to force them to kill little kids. You can’t just… ignore that when looking at his relationship with the clones.

At the end of the day he cared about the clones the same way he cared about the jedi. He cared about Rex the same way he cared about Ahsoka and Obi Wan. He cared, just not enough not to betray them and kill them. He valued their lives, but not as much as he valued his needs.

the-cybersmith

That was Vader, though.

Anakin Skywalker died in the Chancellor’s Office, Vader may have (briefly) worn his face, but that doesn’t make them the same person.

We don’t see Anakin again until shortly before the Second Death Star explodes.

Vader makes it ABUNDANTLY clear, to Thrawn, to Obi-Wan, to Darth Sidious, to Reva, to Ahsoka, to Tarkin, to basically anyone who asks: he is not Anakin Skywalker. He killed Anakin Skywalker.

The man who led the attack on the Jedi Temple was not Anakin Skywalker.

ahsoka-in-a-hood

oh my goddd

short-wooloo

THE FUCKING HUMAN PET GUY!?

youtubekeepsbreakingmystuff

Been saying this for years

He’s still the same guy, and Obi-Wan straight up admits he lied

football-in-tuxedos

I wasn’t even aware that was a controversial opinion

pachkko

This is a canon interaction they have had before.

comic text credit goes to this text post by @/fives-bf.

I've been on a star wars kick since the obi-wan series came out, so expect more comics soon.

gffa

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cranity

Was thinking about modern AU and these are the only acceptable outfit variations for Qui-Gon

cranity

He shows up to whatever the modern day Jedi Council equivalent is wearing this:

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deniigi

@cranity

I can’t believe you did this and also please for the love of god, someone take this from me. —————————————————————

Mace cannot fit under this chair. He has tried—Oh, how he has tried. He knew when he tried the first time that he does not fit under the chair, but it was the pain combined with shame combined with agony that drove him to try.

Now, again he sits before the man who he thought was his friend. Who sometimes, on weekends, still proports to be said friend, but who also stands here in front of all these good people, with his hand fisted behind the neck of a child, pinning the poor boy in place with no hope for escape.

This man? Mace would kill in cold blood.

He would weep as soon as the deed was done. He would hold this man’s fading life up to his throat and sob as he breathed his raspy last into the humid hollow of Mace’s neck. But Mace would know in his heart that the evil had been vanquished. The sacrifice was necessary.

“Master Qui-Gon, you must yourself explain,” Yoda says. “Proper attire for this audience, this is not.”

Qui—the great bastard and future target of Mace’s impulses—sets little Obi-Wan down securely at his side. The moment he releases him, the boy cowers behind his master’s bulk, burying his face into his spine in shame.

Qui.

Think of the children, Qui.

“Well, to be honest, Master, I didn’t want to come,” Qui-Gon says.

The council falls silent in the face of his honesty. It is a hurricane. It tears through the flimsy wooden excuses for houses in this place, rends gutters and rebar from all civil buildings. It flattens the trees in an innocent, once-peaceful village and does not give them room to even snatch a gasp of relief.

Qui-Gon’s shirt is pink, stars help them all.

It is pink and vibrant and tight as sin itself. The front is emblazed with neon yellow and green text that proclaims it to be a souvenir from a tiny island nation in the Inner Rim. Beneath it is a mythical horse with a horn and a rainbow mane lurching upwards towards a series of parting storm clouds.

To drive the stake deeper into the heart of decency itself, he has dressed his gangly apprentice in a matching shirt. It does not become him the way it somehow accentuates his master’s form. The boy has no muscles to speak of. Only horror. He hides his face behind cupped hands, even tucked away in the line of Qui-Gon’s horrifically visible spine.

“We were in the middle of an undercover operation, masters,” Qui-Gon says. “It is imperative that we do not break character.”

The only one about to break here is little Obi-Wan. He is going to break into tears. Mace should have done more to protect him. He has ruined this boy’s chances at a normal apprenticeship—no, a normal life—by condemning him to live until adulthood with this monster.

“So did you need something or are we free to resume our duties?” Qui-Gon asks.

“Forget what we need, I have, in the face of your arrogance, Grandpadawan,” Yoda says.

“Thanks, it’s vintage,” Qui says.

Mace pictures the bottom of the chair.

It must be so nice down there. Gentle. Quiet.

“Be gone with you, Qui-Gon.”

“Perfect. Great decision. I love it for all of us,” Qui says.

He collects his apprentice who mouths apologies to the council. Qui-Gon does not see them. He only flicks two fingers at Mace from around the beverage in his hand in what he thinks is friendly acknowledge.

Mace lifts his chin back out of habit more than sense. He turns his head over his shoulder as the two leave and finds the rest of the council staring at him in a mixture of bafflement and disappointment.

He stands up.

He does not fit under the chair.

But damn if he doesn’t try.

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levitatingbiscuits

I love Mandalorians so much. They're all digging their own graves all the time and arguing about how this method of grave digging is much better than that OTHER guy's method of grave digging. Sometimes they get into wars with each other about whose grave is better. It never occurs to them to stop digging.

glimmerglanger

#jango is technically the most successful mando bc his clones killed the jedi#but like. he still got beheaded by one#bc he decided to fight the literal strongest warrior in the galaxy#on take ur kid to work day#and yeah they're super badass but also SO dumb#i love it

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levitatingbiscuits

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Mandos: omg u guys are so good at killing us 😍

Jedi: ...if you'd stop hunting us for sport we wouldn't have to do that

Mandos: no ❤️

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flipredmonkey

Further emphasized in Din’s ep of BoBF, like c’mon people 😂

Paz: There are only three of us left

Armorer: Yes, we must come together as a Covert now as we work to rebuild

Din: I have the darksaber

Paz: i will kill you and end your family line right now as I pull that blade from your lifeless beskar hands

Din: Not if I kill you first

Armorer: ….Proceed

monjustmon

How the fuck has their civilization survived

mehagain

The Mandalorians are hilariously shit in TOR

Like Act 1 of the Bounty Hunter story revolves around The Great Hunt, a Mandalorian sponsored bounty hunting contest whose targets include, for some reason, an IMPERIAL admiral. So, you know, they put a hit on one of their fucking allies. And the final target on the list is a Jedi Master who singlehandedly wiped the streets of Coruscant up and down with hundreds of Mandalorians during the Sack of Coruscant

They were so salty about getting their asses kicked that years later they put his name on a hitlist but never even bothered trying to collect it themselves. Pathetic.

Then they try to have the PC Bounty Hunter become a Mandalorian just so they can technically credit the kill to themselves and get pissy if you refuse.

aspiringwarriorlibrarian

Tarre Vizsla was probably one of the most competent members of their civilization and they’ve spent a thousand years tossing around his sword while learning exactly nothing from it.

The Armorer: You see, there’s a curse on the sword, if it’s not taken in combat then the Mandalorian people will suffer.

Tarre: I assume the initial “grabbing it from my urn where I specifically left it” didn’t count then?