To not make this ask even longer, i am not gonna explain my background a lot, but in short i have been in the metaphysics community for years now (time is an illusion, shifting, manifestation, loa,..), and recently around half a year ago i found out about void tumblr, huge success stories, and manifesting lists and waking up with all your desires the next day, etc.. (but i still donât have huge success stories of mine yet, eg: manifesting out of thin air, dream life, shifting, void, etc..).Â
I read through all of your posts and asks (i found your blog around 2 weeks ago or less).Â
My question is, from your expertise, what makes others who donât know about non-dualism succeed?
We read stories about those who listened to a subliminal or theta or delta waves, SATS, affirming and persisting, being in a state of having your desire, fulfilling yourself in imagination, living in the end, losing hope & letting it all go, meditating, clearing the mind, or using sleep paralysis and staying still for hours, (and ALL other methods with different variations), and:Â
There are multiple success stories for those who shifted,manifested a lot of things at once/or their whole dream life, or got into the void successfully and manifested what they wanted, etc..Â
There are other people who used the same things and didnât succeed, or succeeded with another method of their own.Â
The methods go from as easy as intending to as complex as staying still for hours in the same position & having 100% clear mind, or completely changing your sleep schedules, or even more complex.
And the duration varies from hours, to days, to weeks, or more (meaning some succeed after doing their method or intending for 1 day, or for weeks, etc..)Â
So, what is actually happening?Â
Is it that they successfully trained their (Vanessa) ? They successfully made her change her beliefs or become well trained in a method?Â
Or is it that at some point they detached from everything and were so immersed in their (imagination/fulfilled with their thoughts) that they unknowingly applied what non-dualism is explaining (detaching from thinking you are it, and then you can identify with whatever else you want)
So they completely detach from Vanessa, and then only identify with Lara (with the understanding that what they are experiencing inside/inner man/ focusing on/their dominant thoughts/ â˘insert whatever beliefs⢠is actually what matters) and that whatever else is going on around them (Vanessaâs circumstances/life situations) is non of their business. So yah, externally they might still accomplish their tasks, but it doesnât mean anything about their manifestations/dream lifeÂ
After all, they are only identifying with Lara.
And the time it took them to succeed was the amount of time it took them to finally be like (you know what, i am not this Vanessa person no more, I choose Lara, and thatâs the only person I identify with) and they actually only identify with Lara. And because we project and experience our lives instantly (on a moment by moment as I understand from your posts) they âchangedâ the life they are experiencing from the moment they actually identified with something else (eg: Lara).Â
Or is there any other explanation?
I find that this question is the one that stayed with me while reading any posts about non-dualism (tumblr, books, or other websites).
The: what about those who used x,y,z methods, and didnât know half of the things about (how life works) and still did it ? (What was they key or element that made all of them succeed despite the various time that it took them to succeed and different methods they used).Â
And sorry for the long ask
Your question is so good and I can't wait to break it down!
"Although I kinda had already but maybe this will be even clearer" - me every time I make a post
I went through all those things as well, manifesting, shifting, void. I hadn't only read Neville but everyone. I love reading so I only read spiritual books for over a year, I've read from people nobody heard of, all the CIA docs I could get my hands on, everything everything. This brain is the library of all spirituality, I have journals on top of journals full of the main points of everything I thought I understood.
What makes others who donât know about non-dualism succeed?
They've successfully convinced their egos that doing this or that will change their external life. Now egos are different, because backgrounds are different - a conditioned brain is a conditioned brain, but some may have an easier time accepting suggestions, especially if they are young, the way you learn to speak your native language when you're a child you can learn as easily to manifest with a method, because you don't know right from wrong, real from unreal, true from false - you accept what others tell you.
We read stories about those who listened to a subliminal or theta or delta waves, SATS, affirming and persisting, being in a state of having your desire, fulfilling yourself in imagination, living in the end, losing hope & letting it all go, meditating, clearing the mind, or using sleep paralysis and staying still for hours, (and ALL other methods with different variations):
I did all of those things. All. All. All xD Most successes I've had were from not caring or letting it go -- because, and I'm explaining it from the understanding I have now: I was suspending my ego. For everyone things happen when they successfully let go of believing in the old story they used to tell themselves OR they just don't care anymore about any story (accepting ego is incapacitated) and as a result the situation/problem resolves.
There are multiple success stories for those who shifted, manifested a lot of things at once/or their whole dream life, or got into the void successfully and manifested what they wanted, etc...
For some, most - the void is a made up state (they ended up believing in). Ada is a made up state, in the same way void is made up state, it's a concept.
Now, for others, few - it's "I AM", it's their real being. Some truly grasped what Neville Goddard said when he told everyone to meditate on "I AM" -- which is a REAL letting go of believing in anything outside of that. Including body. But it's few, for 99% is just a method to change 'external reality'.
*EDIT: Can you not see you're successfully doing all those things right now as well? You're crafting this world and this body perfectly and in real time. You are manifesting all of those things at once too! You're an expert at doing it!
There are other people who used the same things and didnât succeed, or succeeded with another method of their own.Â
I didn't succeed with void. It changed nothing for me because I couldn't believe I'm going to change externals even when I got in. And I can't! Because me, Ada, has no such power. Even if I lost the sense of my body I didn't lose the sense of 'who **I** was', therefore changed nothing. Of course, as you've seen, people managed to convince themselves (maybe with the countless success stories), but Ada couldn't change anything until reason agreed with her.
So, what is actually happening? Is it that they successfully trained their (Vanessa) ? They successfully made her change her beliefs or become well trained in a method?
Yes! They managed to, good for them, but you can ask anyone and they're still not satisfied, they won't be no matter how much they have in the material, the end goal is the same for everyone and that is complete freedom :) they can be satisfied for now (and incredibly happy with being Vanessa 2.0) but they'll seek again something later until they discover the something xD
Or is it that at some point they detached from everything and were so immersed in their (imagination/fulfilled with their thoughts) that they unknowingly applied what non-dualism is explaining (detaching from thinking you are it, and then you can identify with whatever else you want)
That too can be the case, but it is not the end :)
So they completely detach from Vanessa, and then only identify with Lara (with the understanding that what they are experiencing inside/inner man/ focusing on/their dominant thoughts/ â˘insert whatever beliefs⢠is actually what matters) and that whatever else is going on around them (Vanessaâs circumstances/life situations) is none of their business. So yah, externally they might still accomplish their tasks, but it doesnât mean anything about their manifestations/dream life. After all, they are only identifying with Lara. And the time it took them to succeed was the amount of time it took them to finally be like (you know what, i am not this Vanessa person no more, I choose Lara, and thatâs the only person I identify with) and they actually only identify with Lara. And because we project and experience our lives instantly (on a moment by moment as I understand from your posts) they âchangedâ the life they are experiencing from the moment they actually identified with something else (eg: Lara).Â
Perfect explanation, see, you got it yourself!
There is no external life, there is no need to use any methods to recondition or train your mind. It is much faster and much easier and you are hundreds times happier just letting go of the mind. To not depend on anything but everything to depend on you is a top state you can grasp with no method. All those things they do are in them and they are making them up all the time.
They successfully forget about the old man & manage to go on living like the new man. But unless you understand none of the two are real, that time is in you and not you in time, you won't have the indescribable happiness, freedom, and control you do as your Self.
You'll constantly try to change what you think is you, act in 'your' interest instead of others, continue to hurt and be hurt, experience desire and fear, have things happen without your consent.
There is nothing that is 'mirroring' you, you are either conscious of one thing or the other. You are conscious of the world, that's why there is a world. You are conscious of a body and that's why there is a body. YOU COME FIRST and not the world.
There are no others without you & the only reason there is a world in which there are things to desire is because you are conscious of a world in which you are this particular body that instead of having all the things it wants, it's lacking them. You are conscious of wanting. But there is nothing to want because before you want, YOU ARE CONSCIOUS.
Realize the root of all the concepts. After you can be conscious of being a body which has or hasn't, whatever you want whenever you want. Thought is absolute and instant. "I AM" and whatever you add to that is undeniably. You see it, you don't just daydream about it. You see what you are with no waiting for it to become natural because it is natural for the person you are identified with. Unlike manifestation, your fearlessness, happiness and freedom are now permanent and independent. Perfection follows you everywhere. It is truly like nothing else, it is not being empty but being everything, it is forever love.