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Is Roy supposed to represent.... god?
As I was analyzing Roy's quote from the interview I spiraled into the conclusion you can see above. I don't really know how this fits into the whole narrative of dhmis as it doesn't tackle religion at all besides the inclusion of the cult from episode 3 but here is my analysis anyway.
Let's start by having a look at the quote itself. This is the only time we've actually seen Roy form a coherent sentence, and thus this quote should be very important to understanding his character and motivation (well, supposing it was not meant to be gibberish or a joke on the creators part). "My silly boy has allowed his eyes to grow arrogant and rude and for that I will send him on a trip to the punishland"
"My boy" part I think clearly shows us that it's about Yellow guy as "My" suggests relation and "Boy" a child. "My silly boy" indicates that Roy sees his son as innocent, naive, simple-minded and in need of guidance and protection from bad influence. "Has allowed his eyes to grow arrogant and rude" points us to the fact that Yellow guy has somehow pissed him off, and only he alone knows a reason for that as never in the show Yellow guy actually displays these qualities. Taking in the account Growing Up theory, I've heard the explanation that by talking about Yellow guy, Roy is also taking about Red guy by proxy, as Yellow guy is supposed to represent Red's inner child. In such case Roy could be perceived as a manifestation of Red guy's guilt/shame, or a memory of an abusive parent. "For that I will send him on a trip to the punishland" tells us that Yellow guy is being/will be punished for the perceived transgression. I don't believe that Roy has created this world, and the dream reading of the series in my mind makes more sense than a simulation or a hostage situation. For this reason I think Roy punishes Yellow guy by inaction rather than action. Becky's tweet which reads "Everyone has a special one, even Roy" under the picture of him and Yellow guy + the fact that he saves him in the end, makes me think that he doesn't despise him normally/on the whole and doesn't punish him purely for sadistic enjoyment. Although we can't call his attitude loving it's not hateful either, just cold and focused on discipline above all else. He's acting more like a preacher than a father. It almost looks like... this guy has a god complex.
Roy has turned out to have more god symbolism which I initially didn't notice.
1) His relationship with Yellow guy and other characters. The interview shows us that he's able to speak, or at least that he's able to communicate using words, and yet he consciously chooses not to speak or communicate with anyone. He can save them at any moment but chooses not to. He's omnipresent. He only passively observes till the very end. His motivations and grievances are unknown to everyone except for himself. He gives out punishments for perceived transgressions. You know, almost god's behavior is often described?
2) His role in the plots of both s1 and s2. Shit happens until in the end he shows up and solves the plot. You know, almost like he's a Deus Ex Machina?
3) The meta element of his character. His name shows up in the credits in both Special Thanks and Voice Actors section. Also the fact that he can appear both in reality and in the dream world. You know, like he is a being that exists beyond the reality of the show?
4) All the crazy unexplained powers he has. (Controlling the weather, the arm thing, the shit he does in s2) You know, almost like he can do miracles?
5) His name on the products and other stuff + him appearing in the background. This element I think is there to remind the audience of his presence. You know, almost like he's occasionally showing signs of his presence, as god is supposed to do?
6) The name "Roy" means shepherd (in a religious sense)/protector/ruler. This can still tie into the 'responsible adult role model' of the Growing Up theory, but the concept of god as a keeper and patron can add onto that, you know?
7) The fact that the figure of an absent father is very thematicaly interlinked with god in media and literature. You know, almost like Yellow guy's relationship to Roy is kinda similar to a religious person's relationship to god in a sense that he rarely appears, doesn't talk to you, sometimes punishes you for weird reasons but you're supposed to love him anyway?
8) We don't know for sure if Roy's the one singing in "Silly Sad Duck", so this one's quite flimsy. But if it was supposed to be him it's interesting that he had been depicted in a role of a narrator. You know, almost like he's omnipotent, like god?
However, the interesting thing is... ultimately, Roy is just an imaginary guy and he mostly doesn't matter, especially in s2. The characters largely don't care about him and don't notice his presence in the background. He's absolutely useless, until he shows up and makes Red do what he has been already aiming to do in s1. In s2 he does one thing once Yellow guy summons him (yellow guy is the only character who seems to be able to summon him on command interestingly) and then we see him presumably dead on the floor an that's it. Is he not only unreal in the reality but in the imaginary world too? Is/was Red guy religious? Was Red guy's father religious? Who knows? Idk, I just thought this all would be an interesting observation to share.
Upon rewatching dhmis web series under the influence of my postmodernist philosophy lectures I've cooked up another theory. It's still heavily based on the Growing Up theory, the stuff about the whole show being a dream and Red guy's escapism through nostalgia stays but like... now way more depressing.
Red guy reminds me of Fight Club narrator in some ways. He has an boring office job which doesn't fulfill him in any way. He doesn't seem to have a social circle, and struggles to communicate his wants and feelings to others. He's unremarkable in every way, his likes and wants are manufactured by media. He's disillusioned with life and doesn't have a sense of purpose. But while the protagonist of Fight Club found comfort in consumption Red guy finds comfort in is the memories of his childhood. But... Does he really dream about his childhood? Or just a simulacrum of one?
A common definition of the simulacrum is a copy of a copy whose relation to the model has become so attenuated that it can no longer properly said to be a copy. The childhood that Red guy dreams about does not resemble a real one in the slightest. He doesn't dream of hanging out with friends or siblings, going on the little imaginary adventures to various places, or playing games on his backyard. He dreams that he's in a TV show and that inanimate objects come alive like in a commercial and lecture him about various aspects of life. That is to say, the primary thing that he associates with childhood is manufactured by media and television.
For someone so willing to escape into childhood fantasies, Red guy doesn't even seem to like it there most of the time. Even in the imaginary fantasy land he'd rather watch TV, play board games or read a newspaper. When he's dragged into the plot he's confused and reluctant to participate. Only in the episode 4 he tries to take charge by summoning a teacher and when that doesn't work out he again tries again by arguing with a Computer to have a lesson on his own terms. His attempt at messing with this world has led to it rejecting him, as the deconstruction of any kind would make it fall apart. Red understood the unreality of everything then, but could not let go. From that point on he just observes how everything goes on without him. Soon each of his friends meet the same fate upon rejecting teachers and suffer because of it.
One of the show's strongest aspects in my opinion, is it's aesthetics. It's built on a contrast between childish and adult elements. Everything seems fine and like something you can actually show to a child until an adult joke or two appears, maybe something disgusting then and so on and slowly that all leads us to a grand finale where an episode fully turns into a creepypasta. That very much reminds me of how nightmares work. One of the most striking adult elements that is present from the beginning is Red guy himself. His comedy works precisely because he reacts to all the nonsense around him like an average joe who has somehow entered the heightened reality of a TV show. He has grown disillusioned with the way the world was presented in media. And his cynical perception of the world is subconsciously injected into his dream (via sudden horror sequences) and the lessons of the teachers. They have warped, overly-simplistic and borderline nonsensical perceptions of the topics they're teaching (it's a simulacrum of learning, which is sadly prevalent in mass media). Red guy can't help but to feel cynical. Creativity is basically whatever the higher-ups want, and is kinda boring. Time only leads to a demise (note the "future doesn't exist). Love is easily coopted by cults and religion (maybe red himself was religious/was in a cult at some point? in the bg we can see both duck and roy wearing the cult attire, but not red as if he denounced religion) Technology is scary and unpredictable. Health diagrams are strongly influenced by marketing and the distinction between healthy and unhealthy food is mostly arbitrary (there is actually no such thing as universal "healthy" diet). And dreams... well...
Now it's my turn to be (even more) cynical. Upon waking up Red guy finds himself in a same old boring office. And judging by his behavior he quickly realizes that although his time in the dream wasn't the best, he still liked it better than reality. He convinces himself that it was great, and tries to convince others as well. He tries to replicate what he has seen, only he can't. He's not very creative and can't quite communicate what was so appealing about his fantasy besides the talking objects. Despite the fact that the idea "what if inanimate objects talked" itself is very cliche his execution of it was literally "hey what if that file talked". No wonder his boss doesn't buy into it. The dream doesn't let Red guy go, however. He becomes consumed by this idea. Idea of a simpler world. The world in which he has friends and doesn't have to do his boring job. The fake world of colourful children's media about which he previously felt cynical, made him realize how equally empty his reality had been as well. He tries another time, giving a very uncharismatic performance of a song he heard with his handpuppets of yellow and duck (maybe these were childhood toys of his on which he based yellow and duck) and gets rejected. The imaginary element appears in reality, via Roy.
Red guy escapes into his mind as a defense mechanism. There he sees a machine which I believe represents his imagination. It offers him a different look on everything he has seen in a dream. He once again sees how artificial and controlled everything really was and yet he tries to salvage this dream and save his last remaining friend. He can't return to reality now and his imaginary world is falling apart as well. Roy appears again and offers him a solution. To pull the plug. Killing everyone in the process. The world becomes a copy of a copy once Red wakes up in a different world in a different body. He has been born again and that is why his birthday is now June 20. He has been consumed by the warped reality he himself created. And each following copy of him would have less and less to do with the original. That was his lesson about dreams.
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