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For real. This girl @ bxtterflystyle tweeting: "I can't wait to see what harry's gonna wear on stage" and Harry answering "a little black dress". I wouldn't be surprised. This might be a major coming out.
I have a post in the making about how I think night changes could have a special gender related meaning for H. I'd be so happy if he beat me to it.
This really is the best. They're having a blast with this.
"shared a car to their hotel" "arrived at the same time" "arrive happily together" "travel to australia together" "flew together from los angeles" "clearly so excited"
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MEDIA DOING
The press got a power display at that birthday party, and I bet they got instructions. H & L want publicity on this now because it's happening. And, if you mess with Harry, you mess with all his friends (we're talking literal press suicide here). No shaming or making fun.
We're in for a love fest. It'll be wonderful.
Coming out
So, the game is afoot. I'm really very sure Harry and Louis are coming out any day, but I also think there will be others.
Mainly I think Harry is telling a story via Instagram and twitter. A story about how a group of (famous) people are coming out together soon. I've been looking at a lot of Instagram accounts lately, but i've had a hard time really put something together. There are many pictures and its quite a long time period. It's all a bit random and I'm not well-read in this fandom (or in who around the boys might be queer or not). I've written about Harry's story here, and here.
So, the other day both Sam Smith and Eleanor put pictures up.
Many have seen Sam's picture as a reference to Harry and Louis tattoos. The text says, "I just got this. So you'll always be with me little sailors x". I hadn't really looked at Sam's Instagram before. He's openly gay and doesn't need to come out, but of course his support is immensely important.
Eleanor's picture is of herself and Sophia, but most important to me is the added: 💁💚💛. A "service" girl (the emoji is called the bellhop emoji) and a green and a yellow heart. And, Harry has been all about green and yellow lately. Almost all his posts about colours in black and white refer to green and yellow. I think that Eleanor is saying something with this picture, and that it's supportive. She has not posted anything on her Instagram in four months and suddenly she post several pictures of herself alone, or with friends, and she likes a post from the account @ loversfriendsla about breakups. Nothing about Louis. This mess has nothing to do with her as a person. I don't know if Eleanor is queer or not (I think Harrys beards mostly have been) but either way I would guess Louis and Harry would want to show that she's on their side. They really wouldn't want her to get hate. I wouldn't be surprised if we get pictures of Eleanor with both the boys having a good time after they are out. Real, happy pictures for once.
Harry's story then
I think that some sort of decision were made in the start/middle of November. Read my original post here. 9th of November Harry tweeted "Green and gold" and he posted a picture (of his yellow anorak) with the text "It was all yellow." On the 14th of November it seems to me that something was decided. Harry post these pictures.
The texts are "What a lovely view." and "There's no such green." I read this as meaning that it is impossible to live this limited life with this horrible view behind closed doors. The hands I think, is Harry, Louis and possibly Gemma's (might even be Eleanor's). They are making some kind of vow.
So, after Sam posted the "little sailors" pic I took a closer look at his Instagram and guess what he posted on the 14th of November. The day I think was the most important.
The texts are "Beards @ bpgbass" (Sam and one of his musicians) and "Miracle" (Sam and his boyfriend). This really hit me. Those pictures seem to be in direct reference to Harrys pictures, saying, "It is a miracle to be able to be seen with your loved one openly, without that stupid beard."
The others
So, I decided to look at some other accounts on that day, 14th of November. There are plenty that could (or could not) fit with my theory (feel free to join in), but I'll show these three.
The first picture is from Justin Bieber's Instagram that day. It has no added text and it's the only one on his whole Instagram that's not a photo or a quote (way, way back at least) and he doesn't tweet it as he does with most pictures. It seems like Goofy is getting himself out of somewhere. And, this fits so well with Justin's actions lately. Being at Ellen, talking about how he is coming to terms with himself and how he is ready to stop pretending that he is someone he's not.
The second picture is from Cara Delevigne's Instagram. A quote with the added text "Be all you are @kimyudelowitz ❤️". She also posted pictures from the filming of Paper Towns, by author John Green. This was her work at the time so it might mean nothing, but John Green also wrote "Will Grayson, Will Grason" (with David Levithan), the first ever children's bestseller starring gay characters. And, he's an advocate for gay rights. And, his name is green. It might mean something, and it might not.
The third picture is from Taylor Swift's Instagram. The text is simply "Screaming Color". I don't know if it means something really, but in my opinion, "Out of the woods" (the song with the line "screaming color" in it) can very much be read as a coming out song. And, in reference to Harrys black and white Instagram world, this picture is a statement. It's also not very representative for her other Instagram pictures. And I think there is a story here that is very different from the one we've been officially told. For one, Taylor is a PR genius. She knew Harry couldn't stay in that closet long, so I'm very sure she's involved in any plans and has a story ready. I've also seen her interviewed by beautiful women. Lets say I'd be surprised if she wasn't somewhat queer.
Today, tomorrow, little by little or all at once
Right now, it looks to me like Harry and Louis are coming out before this tour even starts, or very, very soon. I don't think the newly released Kodaline song dedicated to a couple "close to our hearts" is a coincidence. It's support. And they will be getting lots of support. Harry has shown that he's got a lot of friends, and the press knows it. Important friends that the papers, tv- and radio-chanels simply must have good relations with. So, there is not going to be any shading or any "making fun of the gay boy-banders" articles. It's going to be a love fest. This is so well executed. The birthday party was a god damn power display that was absolutely fantastic.
I still think there will be more. Others in the band coming out (I see more and more of Ziam), and I'm still thinking that there might be a happening at the Grammys (I wrote some about it here). Maybe many others will come out at the Grammys while the boys stay in Australia (though it is possible for them to go, due to time difference). I feel strongly that there is something for the history-books in the making. Harry and Louis (and the other boys) are so aware of the power they've got, and I don't doubt for a second that they intend to use it to gain maximal effect. They are in a unique position, and they all have an enormous social patos. They will make this a major event.
I'm so very glad and exited for those kids, as well as for my own children that will have a slightly better world to grow up in.
I’ve been seeing a lot of dialogue on these topics on my dash, and wanted to add some thoughts of my own, based on experiences and observations.
Let’s start by getting the stuff everyone agrees on out of the way:
1. The boys are mismanaged, mistreated, and their...
Thanks for this. I'm new to this fandom, and I got confused over this "they need to rehearse" thing. I'm living with a full time musician and though he plays a lot, there is seldom need for excessive rehearsals. He can play. The people he plays with can play. They know the songs. They get on with it.
Now this is a show and that might need more rehearsing, but if I were one of those boys I would have done that while on the last tour (that ended, like, yesterday). Why would they NOT do their rehearsals when they had access to stadiums and were together all the time. We know they made the album whilst touring this way, so why on earth wouldn't they practice the upcoming show in the same manner? The songs are made, the stages are there, they are all there with not much else to do. And, then they can have some real quality free time for as long as possible. I'm quite sure they are well prepared.
New RBB is Modest approved. He looks all manly manned up. Wouldn't be surprised if he has a girlfriend this next time we see him.
are you kidding me? he looks even gayer now! he’s like gay circa 1983! seriously…watch any village people video…
This is actually so interesting, it shows how much the gay coding has changed and how purely cultural it is. Something that was the most obviously gay you could come up with 20 years ago (when I was 20) isn't necessarily perceived as gay but can be seen as "manly" today.
No one would ever have considered that this bear could get himself a sow in the eighties. He's very obviously a boar kind of guy.
can frogs even live for 21 years
That's when they turn into princesses if kissed properly.
16 year old harry: egg mass
17 year old harry: tadpole
18 year old harry: tadpole, with legs
19 year old harry: young frog
20 year old harry: adult frog
21 year old harry: ??? by my calculations. he ded. rip.
He's getting kissed (in public at long last) and will turn into a proper princess. You'll see.
About beards
I just can't get over how misogynist it is to assume that girl beards are always in it for the money or for the publicity. They could be I guess, but why would one just assume that?
Queer women exist. And, it's not easy to be a queer woman in businesses where your value is constantly measured by how appealing you are to men (on several levels).
Single women are pretty much pray. To have a boyfriend (or a husband) can be a form of protection from that.
Asexuality is not accepted as a valid sexuality. For an asexual woman in the business it's probably a very good thing to double beard someone whose company you enjoy.
Beards can also be friends who want to help out. I've "bearded" gay friends myself. For example, I went with one of my best friends to his cousin's wedding. It was great, and it helped him avoid questions he didn't want to answer. We probably looked more at ease and in love with each other than I've done at any family wedding with men/women I've actually dated. I'm a private person with my love life but affectionate with friends and the man in question is a touchy kind of guy. Things are not always as they seem.
Please don't judge queer or helpful girls in your quest to show acceptance for queer boys.
Yellow · What is Harry telling
I read a very interesting ask and answer from tellmethisisnotlove that I wanted to add some things to, but Tumbler is … strange. So I don't really think my reblog showed at all. Thus, a post instead.
Here is the ask – Why is yellow linked to Harrys coming out?With a really interesting answer.
I wanted to add that there is a (very romantic) Coldplay song called “Yellow” that is important to Harry. He tweeted about it once after a Coldplay concert and added a clip. Basically Chris Martin added the lyrics "and that's what makes you beautiful" when he sang "Yellow" to Harry's delight. As a side note Chris has also had quite a few bearding rumors.
I have earlier written some of what I think Harry is telling, mainly on Instagram, here and here. I’m new to this fandom (it really is my son's, and I've grown to love these kids) and I’ve probably got a lot of things wrong, but I do think at least Harry and Louis are coming out soon. I love that I found some other interesting posts about what Harry might be telling at tellmethisisnotlove and worshipped love. It's hard to find the things one is looking for in this huge fandom.
So, here are the main things I think I've spotted:
The first picture I just think means that things are not always as they seem. The king can be a woman (with the text "Hi, mum" and, well, Harry's mum seem amazing). That girl everyone is asking Harry about can be a boy. We have to turn things upside down and tell things like they are. It is what it is. You can just as well call a lunch bag a lunch bag.
The texts to these pictures are “Beard-os weirdos.” and “Two chains”. I think this refers to double bearding. The two beards seem to like each other, they smile and hold each other, and they are both chained. The girls Harry are seen with are also queer. I'm quite convinced that Harry have only agreed to "date" queer girls for some time (whether it includes Taylor, who knows, I wouldn't be surprised).
There's a previous picture that i guess is of Cara with the text “Sisters, are doing it for themselves.”. I think they are many queer people coming out together soon (or near each other in time). I really do think Cara and Kendall are coming out in the next number of Love magazine that’s sold from Februari 9th – the day after the Grammys.
It really makes me sad when people drag the girls. They’re all in this together, fighting the same fight. It’s not easy for heavily sexualized models and/or artists (dependent on the male gaze to get work) to come out even if it’s different from how it is for the boys. The boys can’t be seen together at all. The girls can practically make out on the red carpet and still be seen as lusting after every man who looks their way. Two queer friends (male and female) can go to a gay bar, not even holding hands, and be depicted as dating. Heteronormativity is truly blinding.
The Azoffs One other thing that fits well with my thoughts (that many others seem to think is problematic) is Harrys friendship with Jeff Azoff. He is a young man with massive power in the industry. If anyone could make this happen on a really huge scale it's him. He (and his father) simply knows how's queer or not, and get access to every queer star there is. And, Harry is studying rainbows.
Both lapelosa (here) and hiddensymposiarch (here) have amazing tags about the Azoff family, the backstory and how they work. So I've learned a lot about the Azoffs in a few days. I think it might be even more to this than anyone can imagine (this bit might be completely delusional and nothing but wishful thinking). Could there be a revolution in the making as the sexual revolution in 1968 (as Harry have hinted on Instagram)?
If Irving and Jeff Azoff have decided that enough is enough with closets and beards, then they are the ones that can do something about it. This can also be one of the things the boys wanted (or demanded) from a new agency. Simply put – the agency that could provide the best help with a huge coming out happening, was the one that got the worlds best selling band as their next client. And, the Azoffs have already got it all. It's not really a strange thing if they strive for rewriting history instead of just earning more money. And, this is a thing for the history books.
As an interesting side note, Harry's been seen with quite a lot of stars recently. Jennifer Lawrence and Adele for example, and guess what? They became "best friends" very soon after their first meeting. Well, aren't they always just friends. After all, Jen is dating Chris Martin, so now we're back at the beginning …
Yellow. As in that extremely romantic Coldplay song?
And look what happened during that song once when Harry was at a Coldplay concert.
Hourglass
So, Catfish and the Bottlemen (the band Louis complemented on twitter before Christmas and who was a bit pissy about it (they are good though, I've listened to them quite a lot)) has a song called Hourglass. With the lyrics:
You know when you're gone I struggle at night Dreams of you fucking me all the time And I know your tied up And I know your phone's fucked I'm craving your calls like a soldier's wife I wanna bring you home myself Bring you home myself Come back, move in, mess my place Chest infect me, waste my days Cause I know you love to drive me up the wall I know you love to drive me up the wall I wanna bring you home myself Bring you home myself And I'm so impatient when you're not mine I just want to catch up on all the lost times And I'll say I'm sorry if I sound sordid Cause all I really ever want is you Offer my hand and I'll take your name Share my shower, kiss my frame Cause I wanna carry all of your children And I wanna call them stupid shit
Harry has used HIM/HE about himself and refers to himself as male/a boy (I can give you receipts) so he identifies as MALE because he uses those pronouns. So by ignoring his choice of pronouns and insisting he is breaking gender roles and identifies as anything other than his stated pronouns and gender you are being harmful and it's not cool. Respect his choice.
At no point have I ever referred to him by female or gender neutral pronouns, or stated an opinion that he identifies as non-cis.
That said, if people observe his behaviour and form the opinion that he is not cis, or may not be cis, there is nothing “harmful” about it. Who is it harming? And how? In what way is it harmful to speculate that a person may not be cis? Is it because being non-cis is a bad thing? Because that’s just transphobia, and I have no sympathy for it.
As I said before, Harry has, on several occasions, broken traditional gender roles. That is fact. In UK and US culture, wearing brightly coloured nail polish is coded as feminine. And yet Harry, who presents as male, has done it. As such, he broke a gender role. Purchasing and wearing clothing that was marketed for women is breaking traditional gender roles. Whatever the intent or reason behind it, he has engaged in traditionally “feminine” behaviour. How it is harmful for fans to acknowledge and celebrate Harry’s own public actions?
If Harry prances and twirls and dances seductively with a microphone while on stage in front of tens of thousands of people, what possible harm is there in acknowledging that he has engaged in traditionally feminine behaviour and body language, and celebrating and expressing delight at his self-expression?
What exactly are you trying to protect him from? Himself? Why don’t you respect his own actions, instead of calling on us to ignore them.
I agree so much. Also – identifying as a certain gender does in no way mean that one can't enjoy expressing as another gender (or identify as more than one). That opinion totally erase transvestism as well as many genderqueer identities.
Say that Harry identify as both male and female or genderfluid (I have no idea, but an argument for this could be that Louis seemingly has written plenty of songs like "Steal my girl" about Harry calling him her/she without it being an issue). He is in a situation where he cannot be open with his sexuality. Is it then fair to think that it would be easier for him to be open about being genderqueer? Off course not. That is probably not even a possibility for him right now.
There are many people that hide sexualities and genderqueerness. All of us probably know plenty such people without having any idea who they are. Thus, it is important to be very open minded about how people express those things and not exclude possibilities because people use the pronouns they are assigned at birth. That's kind of a default thing to do and very hard to change for most people – especially if one also still identify as ones assigned gender. It's frankly quite complicated to explain that one likes to be both he/she, him/her and boy/girl all at once.
Being open minded about peoples sexualities and gender identities is in no way harmful. Cis and straight people really doesn't need this level of concern about how they identify. If Harry is cis it will not affect him in any way that people discuss that he may be genderqueer. If he is not it might on the other hand be very important to him that people do.
I agree with everything you said in your long answer/post about gender norms and stuff, but what annoys me personally a bit tbh is when people tag their posts with "Harry is a girl" or stuff like that. I know it's not offensive, it's like saying someone is gay when they're straight, but still. Like, if I were Harry, I have to admit I'd feel weirded out when people would say I'm a girl when I'm not. Like, specualting/talking about it is cool, but I don't like it when people act as if it's a fact
Are you talking about Angela? Here’s her explanation for the tag: Link
I have literally seen no one acting as if it is fact that Harry is non-cis. I have, on the other hand, seen lots and lots of people acting as if it is fact that Harry is gay. Even if people were saying that Harry was definitely non-cis, I personally don’t think it would be an offensive thing for them to say.
It might make you feel weird to be wrongly identified as transgender, but I do think that weird feeling itself is probably rooted in deep seated transphobia. It doesn’t make you a bad person! For so many of us, the idea of being transgender or non-binary is new, and therefore a bit foreign and strange and hard for us to comprehend. So we feel “weird” about discussing the possibility that someone may be non-cis. It’s okay to feel that way. But it’s not okay to act on that feeling, in my opinion.
It’s just like when people who have not been routinely exposed to non-straight people feel “icky” about the thought of two people of the same gender having sex (usually two men, if we’re being honest). It’s perfectly fine if you don’t want to think about people having sex, but that “icky” feeling should not be used as an excuse to be against marriage equality, or as the basis for saying “don’t shove it in our face!” about a same-sex couple holding hands or kissing.
All that said, I do know some trans people who have also said that they don’t like the “Harry is a girl” tag, so maybe I’m completely in the wrong on this.
What I do feel confident in is that there is nothing offensive about people, especially non-cis people, discussing Harry’s gender expression and finding representation in him. I think that’s a really positive aspect of the fandom and to be encouraged.
My personal experience is that people who like to push gender roles and balance on the edge of them (I can off course not speak for Harry, but I guess he belongs to this group) does not usually take offense if misgendered regardless of which sex they identify with. That is what they like. The androgyny. Being a bit of both.
I have a kid that’s still very young but a bit gender queer. He loves when someone misgender him. He can go to great lengths to achieve that and he glows when people are unsure of his gender. Though he mostly identify as male (which is his assigned sex) he would never ever take offense being called a girl. He wants to be both.
One of his friends on the other hand (who was also assigned male sex at birth, but identify as a girl) hates being misgendered and she would never dress ambiguously. She is a girl. To misgender her would be an act of violence towards her.
I don’t know, but I assume that people who like playing with gender roles and doesn’t mind being seen as androgynous probably isn’t sensitive about being misgendered. And, this can be confusing for people who have a very strong gender identity (cis or transgender) as they themselves feel uncomfortable when misgendered. Does that make any sense?
Some days are harder than others.
To anyone who works with kids: Treat all kids as if they are queer, both sexuality- and genderwise. It will mean next to nothing to those who aren't and everything to those who are. And everyone will learn tolerance.
Thanks.
Fandom's logic: Zayn grows his hair and puts it in a bun and he's cool, but Harry does the same and he's breaking gender roles. Niall does girly poses and is lifted by guys and it's LOL, but Harry does the same and he's breaking gender roles. Liam pretends to be Niall's fangirl on twitter and it's a joke, but if Harry did it he'd be breaking gender roles. Louis tweets 'I'm pregnant' and everyones asleep, but Harry fakes a pregnant belly and he's breaking gender roles. How objective.
WOW THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL I LOVE YOU
Okay so I saw this post go across my dash several times when it was first posted, and even though I strongly disagree with it and am, in fact, somewhat offended, I chose not to say anything. Reading this response, the content of which I agree with and the tone of which I do not, motivated me to write my own.
The first thing going on in this Anonymous message is the underlying assumption that there is something bad or hurtful about the fandom’s belief that Harry is breaking gender roles. Although not explicitly stated, that idea clearly permeates the ask. There are actually two parts to the fandom discussion of Harry’s gender identity. The first is the observation that he is breaking gender roles, and the second is the extrapolation that based on these observations it is possible that he does not identify as cis. I think the Anon is actually taking issue with the second part of that discussion, even though they frame their ask as taking issue with the first.
The observation that Harry has broken gender roles (in the culture the he grew up and lives in) is largely objective and not debatable. If Harry wears brightly coloured nail polish, he /is/ breaking gender roles. If he wears clothing marketed and sold to women, he /is/ breaking gender roles. That is fact. It is not up for debate. Some of his actions (such as the flamboyant dancing, growing his hair long, miming a pregnant belly, giving himself fake breasts, contemplating being a girl, wearing a tiara on his birthday) could be interpreted as breaking gender roles or not, depending on what one believes is the motivation or mindset behind those actions. Neither interpretation is offensive. Neither interpretation is harmful.
The second part of the fandom discussion, regarding whether Harry may not identify as cis-gender, is inherently more subjective. We cannot know Harry’s gender identity simply by observing him. However, it is completely inoffensive to observe Harry’s own public actions and conclude, based on one’s own experience and beliefs, that he is transgendered or non-binary. To become offended by such a conclusion is to say that being transgendered or non-binary is a bad thing, something to be avoided, and not something you should label someone with. Having a hypothesis that Harry is non-cis based on his observable behaviour is EXACTLY the same as having a hypothesis that he is non-straight, also based on his observable behaviour. Neither is offensive. Neither is a claim that needs to be defended against.
At the same time, if you observe all of Harry’s behaviours and come to the conclusion that he is cisgendered, that is also not offensive. Reasonable people can disagree on that point, and none of us can know how he self-identifies, as that is intensely personal and we are not him.
When this Anon essentially suggests that the fandom not discuss Harry’s gender bending and gender non-conforming actions, they are suggesting a course of action that would strip and already underrepresented group of one of their few sources of representation. I have read so many stories of non-cis fans who are able to see themselves in Harry, and feel very comforted and affirmed seeing him violate traditional gender roles, embrace who he is and what he likes, and positively ooze self-confidence and self-acceptance. He radiates joy when he twirls and prances and flips his hair onstage, and even though to a cis person it might not be anything more than charming, to a non-cis person seeing him embrace his love of non-traditionally-masculine clothing/accessories/hairstyles/dance moves can help them to embrace their own non-traditional gender identity or preferences.
So when Harry factually, observably, breaks gender norms, it is reasonable, and acceptable, and perfectly okay for his fans to embrace that and to find representation for themselves in his actions. Even if they are reaching, as this Anon intimates, and are essentially creating representation for themselves where none was intended, that is not harmful. There is nothing wrong with trying to find aspects of yourself in your favourite celebrities. That is especially true, and necessary, when certain aspects of your identity might be severely under-represented in the mainstream media. Harry is having a positive impact by being himself, and by trying to take that conversation off the table, this Anon is trying to reduce that positive impact. I strongly disagree.
Moving on to the argument that somehow the fandom selectively ignores gender bending by the other boys and focuses in on Harry. First of all, none of the other boys have consistently challenged gender roles in the way Harry has. This Anon had to dig to try to find examples, and honestly none of them compare to the type of gender non-conformity Harry has engaged in. I am not sure what their point really is, but I will say that it is perfectly okay and perfectly logical to observe people and come to different conclusions regarding their gender identity based on differences in their actions.
Also, I think the Anon is underestimating the fandom, and very probably has “Larry blinders” on. For example, it has been widely discussed that Liam seems to have an interest in lingerie, and that his interest might not be purely academic. Nobody is obliged to monitor all parts of the fandom, but people should be careful about making sweeping statements about what “the fandom” has discussed, because you are very likely to be wrong.
Everyone, please, try not to engage in transphobic patterns of thought. I know it’s difficult to remove transphobia from your mindset, because it is probably deeply embedded, but do your best to be self-aware and recognise when your thoughts and ideas about gender issues are hurtful.
Rebloging for the simply wonderful comment. This is so important.
Please. Don’t vilify possibly queer girls in your quest to show acceptance for possibly queer boys. Just don’t.
Girls sexualities are constantly made invisible when not seen through a male gaze or associated with male sexuality. That is a real problem. Don’t do that.
