Okay, @why-bless-your-heart : care costs for uninsured people who can’t or don’t pay their bill (55%) are baked into inflated hospital costs for the insured. This is also why some hospitals will literally run out of resources and have to close (of course, hospitals mainly in low income and/or rural areas). That’s 100% NOT to say the uninsured shouldn’t go; they absolutely should. They are not the problem.
Health care is the problem. Hospitals are the problem. Treating health care like a BUSINESS is the fucking problem.
Health care is essentially socialized already, but in a way that no one voted for, where health care providers are able to inflate costs as high as they want under the guise of making up for the uninsured and create care prices essentially at random. Because healthcare is a for-profit industry where making a profit is necessity. This is one of the reasons why Obamacare matters and why states that accepted Medicaid expansions have seen a dramatic (50-70%) drop in uninsured rates. States that haven’t and have only seen 2%-12% are one of the reasons states shouldn’t get to decide and we should have health care for ALL. ACA is progress because it attempts to remove the excuse of uncompensated hospital costs that need to be paid by the insured and able by making everyone insured and able, but that’s not enough because the whole system is miles ahead of this already. For-profit health care and layers of middlemen need to be cut altogether. Prices should be stabilized (i.e. controlled). So the insured can stop being overcharged, some to the point of bankruptcy, and so that the uninsured aren’t terrified to go get treatment and are not abused when they do so. So, yeah. We do need sustainable socialized health care.
Like, IDK, why you even started this conversation when you had zero idea what you were talking about.
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