Hazbin Hotel Critical

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[hazbin-helluva-critics]

Charlstor is way more interesting than Chaggie. You just hate it cause it's supposedly straight het.

Charlie is BI. Alastor is AROACE.

Stop erasing identities that aren't just gay.

Hrm.

On Pride Month? Really?

[hazbin-helluva-critics]

Weird that people talk about Charlie/Vaggie being boring when all the straight pairings are way more boring than them. Cherry and Snakeboy are so forced it's painful. I wish that Cherry was dating Angel's brother instead.

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[hazbin-helluva-critics]

"Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss is such a queer shows!"

And then there's 5 canon straight characters in both shows

[chaifootsteps]

I'm honestly surprised Hazbin got FIVE SEASONS. I remember the first season came and went, the second season had a bit of a drum up coming and going, but I had no idea nor did I see anything of the other three seasons.

Is Amazon really trying to milk this thing for all its worth?

On the contrary, they seem to be letting it run long enough to get a little more milk out of it, then cutting it off. Viv wanted as many seasons as they'd give her and she's getting five...Invincible's rumored to be getting a sixth, maybe more.

[hazbin-helluva-critics]

I am loving the replies. Might screenshot some of y'all.

[arteicetb]

The dissonance between how Angelval is depicted in the show vs Crew/fandom reminds me of that infamous clip where Amir flat out calls Valentino a rapist and everyone gets really quiet and uncomfortable.

Suddenly it’s not “ohhh sexy toxic yaoi” it’s rape, abuse and human trafficking. Its a shame too because Hazbin is a “so bad it’s good” show for me but the I find the Valentino stuff so reprehensible that I stopped watching midway through season 2

Its either those adults want an adult show with adult themes and consequences or just sexy characters to ship. Because the while the show attempts to be mature, fraction of the fanbase and unfortunately the crew are not.

[arteicetb]

what are some of the racist/race insensitive things in Hazbin? not trying to be smarmy about it, i just noticed a lot of creators saying it had some issues in that department.

I hope this can answer your question

[arteicetb]

https://www.tumblr.com/chaifootsteps/815203645002072064/hooooooly-shit?source=share

Idk if you saw this shit, but Jesus Christ almighty. I personally never had anything against the guy even if i didn't particulary care for his videos, but this is crazy.

I've seen it circling on Twitter. It's just stereotypes and the most unfunny thing I've seen in my life. Ever creator that profited off of mocking Black people should donate those earnings to a Black led charity

[deepestfirepeace]

Seeing people on twitter theorize and even make fanart about Alastor and Rosie potential as villain duo, since viv stated Alastor will be more evil in season 3, makes me die inside because the two of them working together is so much more compelling than them being on opposing sides.

Their relationship could have been like an evil version of Bert and Mary Poppins were they mentor Charlie by trying to persuade her to fall into her dark side for their own personal gain.

Of course tough they had to ruin their chemistry by having Rosie own Alastor soul, which adds nothing to his characters since it's a problem that gets solved in the same season in which it's introduced, and makes Rosie look racist.

[hazbin-helluva-critics]

Be honest, how awful and tone deaf do you think Helluva Boss will be on handling their class struggle plot line?

Valid.

[hazbin-helluva-critics]

I found the way Lute was treated to be extremely misogynistic, and Abel's whole supposedly epic ' standing up for himself ' scene involved him calling someone with years of experience fighting and leadership a bitch and telling her to sit down. That wasn't epic. Is Abel's whole character development meant to make him just as sexist as his dad? Cause that's what happened.

[hazbin-helluva-critics]

As happy as I am that Sera and Velvette are lesbians, I really hope S3 and more give more of an indicator that they’re into women rather than just relying on merch.

But knowing Spindlehorse, that’s unlikely.

What? This is the first I'm hearing of that.

[arteicetb]

Rosie and Alastor are even uncomfortable. Given Rosie dress like she taking a ride on the Titanic so she could have possibly been a child before the Civil War. (Which that is a mind fuck. Slavery Ending and Titanic sinking was just 47 years apart. So if Rosie is 50 she would been around or if not definitely alive during Jim Crow)

Assuming if Rosie is an ordinary Sinner and not Lilth/Eve/Roo, than yeah that would be fucked up. But considering that Alastor, alive during Jim Crow, also enslaves another Black man (Husk) and Japanese woman (Niffty), that doesn't make him any better.

[hazbin-helluva-critics]

Angel being paired with the vees in the pride merch feels insanely icky to me.

The vibes are rancid.

[hazbin-helluva-critics]

The way people use Alastor being ' black ' to push their narratives sickens me. He's Creole, you guys. That means he could be a lot of mixed races. The show very briefly touches on the racism in Southern Louisiana at the time, but we shouldn't be giving Vivziepop a pat on the back for the bare minimum. His human design still has straight hair and a button nose. He could probably barely pass the brown paper bag test if he used powder. He would have faced racism, but he also leans too much into Black people being magic tropes for me. The Pilot Alastor is literally the Magical N*gro trope. Where Alastor comes in to save the poor white? girl. That's why his motivations now are ' I'm going to ruin your plan for fun '.

What?

[hazbin-helluva-critics]

Here is where we can complain about Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel.