that's the point

sebastian made a soul binding contract with a 10 y/o while said 10 y/o was going through the most traumatic experience a person can go through. i don't think he cares much for morality tbh.

[hisbutler-problematic]

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[winvegas]

[kunikidaz]

an English gentleman who exhibits bad manners at a tea party isn't worth his salt.

[hisbutler-problematic]

i love how i’ll be hanging out and my brain will just be like “uwu sebaciel rape roleplay as rape recovery” and NOTHING ELSE like my guy. give me something to work with if you’re gonna be that insistent

crying ciel. seb like tf is wrong with u

ciel has a ptsd episode mid sex and seb is like. this is SUCH a mood killer ngl. literally what is the problem you literally have all the power here

seb probably likes when ciel cries. seems like the kind of guy. but like. sexy tears not ptsd episode tears

anyway what if ciel completely consented but he wanted seb to ignore his protests bc he wants to “get used to” being touched that way

literally the WORST attempt at exposure therapy

not to say something absolutely unhinged but sebaciel cnc in which they play up seb being a demon and all ooooh i’ll teach you ~pleasure~ bc they’re both fucked up and find it sexy that seb is a demon. they sometimes do fun sexy cnc the other way around for like. ohhh the ~dubcon of it all~ that seb has to listen to ciel’s orders whether he wants to or not (he does)

sebaciel + somnophilia

me: [hanging out] my brain: ciel safewording a lot/often just to prove to himself that he can and that sebastian will stop

testing the boundaries of trust

[hisbutler-problematic]

i think sebaciel would never say ilu out loud, they would just understand they’re bound for life and looking at someone else (seriously) will result in Consequences (mood: when ur in an abusive relationship but ur both the abusers)

mutually toxic <3

personally i think. what if sebaciel was toxic AND romantic

like. let’s do that romanticizing toxic relationships everyone be talking abt

my brain brought back the “they’re both abusers” line and said “how would a child abuse a demon” like. girl he’d find a way

emotionally <3

“sebastian is a demon who has been alive for ages. ciel is 13.” yeah ok but have you ever met a 13 y/o

they cut to the quick

also? the 13 y/o is in charge? where’s the employer/employee outrage

i think seb flirts for work reasons and then goes :) :) :) in front of ciel and ciel can’t say anything so he’s standing there like >:c

[hisbutler-problematic]

what if ciel taught himself latin. what if he taught himself latin specifically to read exorcism spells/chants. in front of sebastian. to see what happens. sebastian just looks at him and raises an eyebrow and says, "your pronunciation is atrocious, young master"

get fucking wrekt bocchan

i just really love the idea of polyglot ciel

hes a little boy who can and will talk shit about you in french, canonically. let him try to exorcise his demon For Fun

when they made the contract ciel said “you have to do whatever i say” and seb said “okay, as long as it’s not something like ‘give me more wishes’ or ‘cancel the contract’ or would otherwise alter the contract” and little baby ciel thought to himself ‘so that won’t work’

even since he was 10 he was like. how can i outsmart a demon. ciel, reading some exorcism thing he found in a library: the contract says nothing about other ways to dispel a demon <3

like. obviously it won’t work. but i think sebastian appreciates the effort

sebastian: you’re the first person who’s ever tried to exorcise me to get out of the contract, bocchan. ☺️ ciel: (grumpy that it didn’t work even a little) hard to imagine they wouldn’t try, if they were stuck with you as long as i have been sebastian: 😊

what sebastian doesn’t say is that ciel is his longest lasting contract bc everyone else he finished with within like an hour (either bc their wishes were easy—we see him try to finish ciel’s requests immediately) or bc he tricked them into violating their contract, this forfeiting their soul (he tries to do this w ciel, too)

i think ciel figured it out pretty quickly but no one is gonna say anything

do you think sebastian would play along a little w the exorcisms when ciel starts to get discouraged bc he thinks the exorcism attempts are funny and cute

to encourage them to continue? yeah

“oh, i think that one did something, bocchan” ciel, squinting suspiciously, “you know you can’t lie to me. it’s part of our contract.” “i’m not lying” (he is simply omitting the truth. which is the “something” was ‘make him cringe listening to ciel’s attempt at latin’)

[hisbutler-problematic]

genuinely still thinking about sebastian and ciel cracking jokes abt the tank they just exploded

like

there is something deeply wrong w them (affectionate)

[hisbutler-problematic]

what i super super duper love about black butler is you can really tell sebastian and ciel love being alone together in a “we can be ourselves” kind of way. like. they split up from everyone else and they immediately revert to the two most awful creatures on this earth. they blew up a tank and made jokes about it

literally zero reason NOT to make your awful comments, the only other person here would LOVE to hear it

it's like if you and your bestie got to hang out literally all the time but your bestie is also the demon who you made a contract with who is also your butler who is also in love with you

except w a fun flavor of toxic preteen/teen girl relationships.

literally "not sure if you’d use my deepest darkest secrets against me but i’m still gonna tell you them anyway bc i know either way you would willingly die for me" (one sided, at least, on ciel’s side but seb is in love w him so whatever)

look at their expressions

[luchigeon]

little finny and his newfound mom

[kuroshitsuji-sama]

They are doing this trend as well 🥰

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[applestorms]

There's something really fundamental to me about the fact that we never actually see Sebastian's True Form as any kind of full humanoid body. Instead, we're cut down to the basics: eyes, teeth, legs, maybe the occasional clawed hand, all floating around in some loose black mist. The animal heads that we see in the memory arc flashbacks are interesting too-- a dog and a raven (or crow?), naturally, but also an octopus, a snake, a fly. Clawing and watching and grinning at all times, predatory and hungry but also, crucially, amalgamate.

This really emphasizes two fundamental aspects of Sebastian and his role in the story to me, those being:

Sebastian is an unquestionably powerful being in the universe of KURO, a point further emphasized by the fact that we can never truly know him-- not his backstory, not his fully body, not the deeper extent of his motivations or feelings or desires.

Sebastian being so undeniably inhuman is core to his relationship with Ciel, and the ways in which he both does and does not reflect/parallel both Ciel's abusers and most beloved family members.

I think you can kind of read the more indistinct aspects of Sebastian's True Form as being a kind of side effect or representation of the ways in which Ciel views him, especially early on. Again, think about the details of Sebastian that we do see at this point: eyes, mouth, shoes, hands. During his time in the cult, Ciel is objectified and sexualized, used to being watched and surveyed at all times. He is, to Sebastian, a meal, something to be preyed upon and eaten-- but also spoken to, lured in, laughed at and ridiculed and complimented. He is a child locked in a cage, trapped near the ground and thus forced to see the world from below, only ever looking up at the people surrounding him, watching their shoes as they walk around him, over him. He is held and moved, puppetted, manipulated in a very literal, physical sense. The Little Red Riding Hood comparison is very apt here, actually-- eyes to see you, hands to hold you, mouth to eat you.

Yet it is also this fundamental inhumanity that kind of makes their dynamic work at all. As this post so wonderfully puts it, Sebastian's human form is an interface, an emulation, one more body to mix up in the amalgamation of Things He Can Be so that he may better serve his new master. He doesn't really have human desires, or at least not straightforwardly. We know that he likes LARPing as a butler full time, that he is prideful and gets off on being praised (see: the circus), but he clearly isn't really attached to the specifics of that in any human way. He isn't prideful of status, or his looks, or anything that could be connected to a typical human life, because this form is just another one of many, something that can and will change in the future, and has in the past.

We know that Sebastian wants one thing: Ciel. But it is the nuances within how exactly this desire manifests itself that forms the axis that a significant chunk of their dynamic revolves around.

A really interesting aspect of KURO to me that I struggle a bit to put into words is the ways in which both Ciel and Sebastian parallel the antagonists of the series and their friends/loved ones simultaneously. I don't think I've ever read or watched a series where the line between who is a "hero" and who is a "villain" is any less clear. This is not to say that the series has no ethical values, or that there aren't Some People clearly doing worse shit than others (Baron Kelvin when I get you), but most of the main characters that we see all have some kind of fucked up or complex dynamic happening between their personal values, their relationships with others, and larger social norms.

Take Grelle in the very first true arc of the series, for example. There's a fascinating parallel that I don't think I've ever really seen anyone talk about between Grelle's immediate murder of Anne the second she fails to live up to her expectations, and the eventual consumption of Ciel at the hands of Sebastian that has been teased since the very beginning. Not only is this moment a fantastic tone-establishing moment for the rest of the series, showing firsthand the brutality that it is willing to commit against even its central characters, it's also one of the first times we get this blurring-of-the-lines moment between protagonist and antagonist. It's an ongoing theme of the series, honestly, particularly with some of the more intense enemies that they go up against-- everybody's a hypocrite, but only one side is going to win. The Circus kids were powerless and pitiful and latched onto the first kind hand that was offered to them, regardless of how they were forced to corrupt their morals in response. Maurice Cole uses and manipulates others, using his prettiness to get what he wants, after being scammed out of a future by being the second to be born. We can only solve this murder if we let these people die.

This is one of the reasons why I view Sebastian and Ciel's relationship as being so fundamentally codependent. There's been a couple posts going around talking about this, but to say it again: Sebastian is everything to Ciel, in a very literal sense. He is the predator and monster lurking in the shadows, he is the doting butler lovingly brewing his tea and picking his clothes and tucking him into bed, he is the dog biting anyone who gets near him, the demon laughing at his pain, the wife picking the best furniture for the lounge. He saved him to kill him. He's got his father's face. They're no different from anybody else, but they can't be without each other either.

Maybe it's enough that they picked each other, and continue to pick one another, doubling down as they grow nearer and nearer to the decimation. Sebastian is grooming Ciel, growing and cultivating him, but in a dynamic under which he has little to no control. Ciel is a victim, a traumatized and abused child, using every scrap of power and knowledge he can get his hands on to order his pet monster who to kill. He never changes his goals, quite literally never grows up, but he gains strength and confidence and loyalty.

They are nothing, and everything. It makes sense, doesn't it?

[lisyonokk]

I'm gonna be shit at formulating this but idk how relationship with Sebastian can be so toxic to ciel's mental health as a SA victim bc he litterally

1) saved him

2) brutally killed his rapists and torturers

3) made a contract with him that allows ciel full control of Sebastian's actions and prevents him from lying and hurting him in any way

like he got the SA power fantasy of making your abusers suffer and gaining autonomy and power over others so you will never be in such helpless state ever again

[onehellofajellyfish]

This is why "but Ciel is a SA survivor!" isn't a counterpoint to why I ship sebaciel, but practically the point

Sebastian is a manifestation of a power fantasy, plain and simple

He's the most obvious choice for Ciel to pursue intimacy with, should he so desire, (and they already have an astounding amount of intimacy canonically) because he formed Sebastian into someone he can trust, tbh I don't think Ciel thinks he's going to live very long due to their contract, Sebastian is the only person Ciel isn't living a lie with (and vice versa), and Ciel also doesn't even see himself as a child. Yes, I know he's 13, but Ciel doesn't care and Sebastian is a literal demon, so why would I argue against something ic?

Get after it, Ciel.

[honeyed-lord]

obsessed with how comfortable ciel clearly is in sebastian’s arms. he literally closes his eyes at least partially because he trusts sebastian to protect him, and that trust is clearly rightfully placed!!!

seb literally allows himself to be riddled with bullets all of ten seconds later because ciel is safely out of their reach (and this is also clearly one of his favourite tricks).

[queenrojpag]

please feel free to remain ladylike… young mistress.

2008 | 2025

[queenrojpag]

[scliffe]

I love that Ciel gets three wishes from Sebastian and he used them all to make Sebastian into someone he can trust: never lie to him, always follow his orders, protect him and never betray him. He’s a traumatized child with self esteem issues and trust issues, so perhaps it’s only to be expected—but I think that if it had been anyone else; for example if r!Ciel was the one who survived, he might not have necessarily asked for something like these. From the way Sebastian had laughed like it was something absurd, it’s highly likely that nobody else has ever asked for something like that either from him.

It must have been very strange, having such a young and innocent contractor—one who could even think of trusting a demon. The things that Ciel had gone through had ensured that he will never be able to trust another human being again—so he turned his trust on something non-human. But he’s not naive either—he had quickly figured out Sebastian’s nature—the demon is not trying to make a fair deal with him. He understood his situation—his family are dead, his brother is gone forever, nobody else could protect him; the only choice is between taking Sebastian’s hand or death.

Still, in the midst of all that, Ciel gained someone—the only one—he can trust, and Sebastian found someone—also the only one in the world—who is willing to trust him. Their relationship is strangely reciprocal. Instead of simply asking for Sebastian to solve his problems or provide instant gratifications, Ciel’s wishes made it so that the two of them must work together to achieve their goal. They are master and servant, but they are also partners in crime, co-conspirators, and devoted companions until the very end of the journey.

Someone who would never lie to you, would always listen to you, protect you, and never betray you; in any other context, it sounds so sweet. If such a someone had been human, maybe a lot of people would also willingly die or sacrifice their soul for them—in reciprocation of such love and devotion.

[cielmichaelis]

modern sebaciel is so funny to me. ciel phantomhive becomes the first billionaire to ever get gay married