It seems like a uniting theme of C4 bad guys is treating people as objects. You get this with the Shapers obviously - Azgra treated the orcs as weapons, Sylandri treated the elves as toys, but both of them fundamentally regarded the people they shaped as not people.
But you see the same thing with the Sundered Houses, specifically Tachonis and Halovar. Primus treats other people (including his children) as expendable resources, as tools towards a goal.
It's more subtle with Yanessa, but despite designing the Creed for mass appeal she doesn't seem to understand why Wick could find value in its ideas even after learning the horrible truth. She doesn't seem to understand why the things that make it appealing are appealing. Like, she knows "treat your neighbor with kindness" gets the suckers in line but doesn't seem to realize why people would treat their neighbors with kindness other than external reward.
This has...interesting implications for several of our PCs.






















