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starting a list of things edward and jacob should have had the chance to bond over (that have nothing to do with bella):
fast cars (duh)
hatred for mike newton
mommy issues/having a dead mom
being forced to listen to other people's thoughts
the experience of randomly getting a really high fever one day and then turning into a monster
“b-but the pack called the cullens bloodsucker!! and leeches!! the cullens weren’t racist for their name calling!!”
so close! the cullen’s mere presence forced the pack to shift, literally ruining their lives (or at least most members of the pack thought of it that way). also, it was more than just “name calling”!!
rosalie literally bent a METAL BOWL into the shape of a dog bowl and scratched “fido” into the side just because jacob said he was hungry!
so close! the cullens constantly made metaphors about the pack literally being “mongrels” and implying they were less than human as if they weren’t still very much alive and breathing!! and the cullens were 100x LESS human then the pack but still continued to act like the pack was less than them!
ohh but yeah you’re totally right that’s all on the same level as the pack calling the vampires who were basically their oppressors “bloodsuckers” and “leeches” (as if that’s not… literally what they are lmao?)
yeah you’re so right the cullen’s treatment toward to the pack was justifiable hahahahahahah
Edward is like 105-106 in Twilight, right? My sister and me started arguing about his vampire status because honest to the stars above, he is NOT old enough to be interesting as a vampire. Jeanne Calment lived to 122 years and some days old. Edward's not even the same age as the eldest human recorded in modern history.
Dude isn't a cool, ancient entity whose has experienced what no human alive has. My sister is saying that it doesn't lessen the "mystique" of his vampire status, but it REALLY does (ans makes his relationship with Bella all the more creepy because at least a primordial, ancient being romancing a teenager is far enough removed from reality that I can turn my brain off).
Because now he's not a cool vampire, he's just a great grandpa going after a way-too-young-for-him child. And it isn't like he used his immortality to travel and gain some supernatural romance points from that. Nor does he has the charisma (IMO) to make up for it like a Damon Salvatore type of vampire. Edward is just so boring!
Not me who sees people saying that Twilight is the same as Nosferatu 2024 in the sense that Edward & Bella = Orlok & Ellen when... not at all ?!
Already Nosferatu 2024 is a masterpiece. So I do not allow the comparison with Twilight.
But then, at what point do Edward & Bella = Orlok & Ellen ?
Orlok literally embodies Ellen. The parts of herself that she rejects because of society and he becomes her vengeful hand against her. He embodies in particular her sexual desire. Not to mention the fact that precisely with Orlok, Ellen can be herself (notably because they are technically the same individual in a symbolic way !).
As for Thomas, he embodies the traditionalism of this society and its patriarchal and misogynistic aspect to which he tries to adhere by embodying the perfect man by trying to copy his friend Harding. Especially by trying to succeed in his career and have more money to have better / more beautiful things that Ellen doesn't really want. Not to mention controlling sexuality within the marriage. A sexuality that belongs only to him and not to his wife as indicated at the beginning of the film.
At what point are Ellen & Orlok like Edward & Bella ?!
Bella who doesn't love herself. Who places herself as inferior to Edward whom she idealizes. Edward who doesn't understand her. With whom she can't be really herself. Bella who doesn't like the luxury that Edward tries to conform her to, and sex only within the framework of marriage (all these things would definitely remind us of Thomas & Ellen more than anything else in fact) !?
Canonically, Rosalie keeps Carlisle updated on medicine, she's the family mechanic, and she has a degree in astrophysics.
She's a literal rocket scientist doctor engineer.
And Edward has the audacity to call her shallow and "stagnant minded".
He says that he has the most degrees of anyone in the family but I firmly believe that he never learned anything and just pulled all answers out of others' minds like he did that day in high school science.
The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 (2011) dir. Bill Condon
Tell me this wouldn’t have been an amazing read?!?! Someone please make this into a fic, like maybe Tanya? How ironic would that be and then they find out how edwards mind reading isn’t actually that accurate he just believes what he wants based on a small thought he has heard
how can the denalis go full veggie in order to have sex with the same human multiple times, but eddie can’t even kiss bella without smashing her face in? make it make sense luv
Kristen Stewart trying out potential Bella Swan outfits for the first Twilight movie.
tbh, New Moon ending with "Edward came back, and i snapped out of my crippling depression :)" feels scarier than actually healing from your severe mental illness. how terrifying would it be to spend six months slogging through hell, then suddenly waking up in your fairytale wonderland like nothing happened? i'd be clawing at the walls waiting for the other shoe to drop. idk how you can look at the love of your life & not wonder whether he was real, or a memory, or a delusion. are you dead? dying? asleep? crazy? if so, to what extent? when he goes hunting, can you be sure he was real? when he follows you to class, does he feel like a ghost? when you dream, do you dream of the real Edward? the past Edward? or the hallucination? where did the pain that reminded you you were alive go? why do you suddenly have an appetite after wasting away to skin and bones? even Bella "I'm good with weird" Swan has her limits, and tbh "my soulmate, who weaponized my worst insecurities & sent me into a psychosis-level depression, is finally back and i am Cured" seems like a mind-breaking denial of reality. her whole life changed overnight in the best way - and she's telling us she has no scars from the dark? hmm
Smeyer: the Denali clan are also vegetarians but the cullens are still superior bc the Denali acted like succubi I guess that’s just what happens when you don’t have a patriarch :)
All of us upon hearing about the succubus thing: fuckin superb you funky little vampire ladies
Twilight aesthetic AU
Bella joins the Denali clan as Tanya's mate
I'm rereading Midnight Sun and I think what gets me the most is how much Meyer doubled down on how not like other girls Bella is.
It happens explicitly in Edward's point of view where he's always narrating that she's not like other humans and makes these choices that no other person would make, even though often they seem like choices that many other people would make and find relatable. He'll say something like "wow when Bella talks to her peers she acts like someone who's keeping up a human front like me and my family does" and I just feel like who doesn't feel that way as a teenager? Is that not the most like other girls thing out there?
And then he has these paragraphs about how she does these acts of kindness that we don't get to hear about in the original book and he's so floored by the idea that she might be a generally kind and good person as though that's so rare refined in the world. There's no way there aren't other affectionate, compassionate, thoughtful, supportive, sympathetic, warm, caring, understanding, generous, tender, tolerant people at Forks High School.
I think it's even kind of shady of Meyer to use her mind reading protagonist to double down on the idea that every other person at the school is shallow and self-involved. If a person truly believes that other people genuinely have nothing else going on outside of thinking about boys and gossip and school dances and they have no interest in the psychology of the cheerleader, then that person probably isn't as deep as they think they are. As it is, characters like Jessica or Lauren are really only there as foils to show us how much better Bella is than everybody which is kind of stupid.
I wish Bella could be an imperfect character and Edward could be interested in her just because she has a certain je ne sais quoi or because they have things in common, they're in alignment.
As I go on, I also find the books working definition of goodness to be rigid. Nobody is nice all the time and nobody does the right thing in every situation, but that doesn't mean nobody is a good person.
By a different token, Bella is the often praised by Edward for her self-sacrificial nature and how she doesn't consider her own needs. In most situations, she chooses what makes others happier even if it negatively impacts her. This often gets lumped in with Bella's "goodness" but this boundary-less giving is not a good trait or something you'd see in healthy relationships.
I'm rereading Midnight Sun and I think what gets me the most is how much Meyer doubled down on how not like other girls Bella is.
It happens explicitly in Edward's point of view where he's always narrating that she's not like other humans and makes these choices that no other person would make, even though often they seem like choices that many other people would make and find relatable. He'll say something like "wow when Bella talks to her peers she acts like someone who's keeping up a human front like me and my family does" and I just feel like who doesn't feel that way as a teenager? Is that not the most like other girls thing out there?
And then he has these paragraphs about how she does these acts of kindness that we don't get to hear about in the original book and he's so floored by the idea that she might be a generally kind and good person as though that's so rare refined in the world. There's no way there aren't other affectionate, compassionate, thoughtful, supportive, sympathetic, warm, caring, understanding, generous, tender, tolerant people at Forks High School.
I think it's even kind of shady of Meyer to use her mind reading protagonist to double down on the idea that every other person at the school is shallow and self-involved. If a person truly believes that other people genuinely have nothing else going on outside of thinking about boys and gossip and school dances and they have no interest in the psychology of the cheerleader, then that person probably isn't as deep as they think they are. As it is, characters like Jessica or Lauren are really only there as foils to show us how much better Bella is than everybody which is kind of stupid.
I wish Bella could be an imperfect character and Edward could be interested in her just because she has a certain je ne sais quoi or because they have things in common, they're in alignment.
I think it’s really funny that Edward thought bella would run away screaming at the sight of his skin shimmering in the sunlight. Like he thought that would be the thing that finally drove her away. He literally was like “oh surely this girl who has apparently no self preservation skills whatsoever who has been completely unbothered by the fact that I could snap her like a twig will finally be sufficiently disgusted by my shiny skin”
midnight sun is possibly the best twilight book because edward is so dramatic and weird to the point where it's hilarious. this is our dashing romantic hero. he says shit like "i wish i could dream of her, she should NOT dream of me" and "I judged the shadows" and "sense and sensibility, she was an austen fan" which makes me laugh in peticular because ??? yeah i guess king? get out of her tree
