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Currently listening to the first episode of riptide since I’m bored and caught up. Man it’s a trip, they all sound so different. Chips more bastardly dastardly, Jays been the main braincell since day one, and Gill doesn’t know how heists work. All of them are the least competent pirates and silliest gooses ever with surprisingly good team work. And also pretzels the goat as always lol.
HAPPY PRIDE MONTH!!!!
Drew a gillion cause I was bored, also I know I draw him a lot but he has my favorite design of the main characters alright? Sue me lol
its crazy how far jay has come in the last 10 or so episodes specifically in terms of trust, and her faith in her friends (spoilers up to riptide 128 below)
because we go from episodes 115-117 where she’s so worried for lizzies safety leaves chip and gillion in the BLACK SEA and teleports halfway across the world, just to be met with the reality that lizzie, and all of her crew, are capable enough of looking out for themselves. and then, she nearly spirals the same way realizing that oh god, she just left her best friends in the black sea. she and lizzie have a long talk about this at avas grave i heavily recommend everyone watches it a million times. anyway the important thing is that lizzie says that jays line of thinking (spiraling from the fear that she left her friends alone, and doesn’t trust that they’ll be okay) is the exact line of thinking that brought her away from them in the first place.
and then everything goes to shit, despite of jay being there and it destroys jay. and thats a whole other thing i can’t wait to unpack because jay’s character has definitely taken more of a supportive role in the undersea arc, meaning we haven’t adressed pretty much any of what she went through yet, and im terrified for when we do
FUCKKK im getting sidetracked but ok. my point is. where jay is now compared to 10 episodes ago is crazy and we see that especially in both her conversation with aurora, and her response when chip lies to her about the champion of death stuff.
because she could be terrified by gillion entering the trials alone and the fact that chip is lying to her face could be driving her CRAZY and maybe it is but after everything thats happened she is making the active choice to trust her friends, and trust that they’re capable, and trust that they’re doing what they think is best (remember when chip said “did you do what you think is best? then you did everything you could” or something like that its literally her taking that, and lizzies advice to heart— and if you rewatch the newer episodes you will see this development laid out SO SO clearly plain as day and its crazy nobodys really talked about it GUYS ITS RIGHT THEREEEE LOOK LOOK LOOKHWSHDHDHFH
yeah so im pretty normal about jay ferin and uhhh if anyone else has been thinking about her recently im so curious what peoples thoughts are!
This kinda makes me think about how Chip went through a similar thing when they came back from the feywild. How Jay told him he needed to trust the crew more because they are strong and capable, that his worth isn’t tied to his usefulness to them or his role as captain. Makes me wonder if it was a reminder to herself too. I swear the Riptide pirates should maybe consider taking their own advice.
hey you are so right about jay ferin speak up!! love how you put it that she's smart and decisive but not calculating, and she probably has a really weird relationship with being decisive and making decisions and being in a leadership role because like, that's what she was kind of raised to do? to take on a leadership role in the navy and make the tough calls and be prepared to accept the consequences and it's gotten her this far hasn't it? but i'm sure she's also terrified that one day she'll make the wrong call and it'll seriously hurt people in a way she can't come back from and she keeps pushing towards becoming more powerful and moving forward but is terrified of that power because even if she knows herself and what she wants, she doesn't completely trust herself. i mean, she is a ferin after all
YAYY I’m glad you like my thoughts!! I think it’s so interesting that you pointed that out, because she IS good in leadership roles! Throughout a lot of the campaign, when the consequences for things aren’t as god awful, her decisiveness is so helpful. I think that’s why she’s often labeled as the capable one.
I think the thing to me about Jay is that she Knows What She Wants. She almost always knows what she wants and she almost always acts on that. While I think outwardly Chip acts more characteristically ‘selfish’ and Gillion ‘driven’, I think those are traits that actually are stronger in Jay (selfish in a broader sense of the word for her). Chip and Gill are pretty uncertain people at their core for most of the campaign, though I think post black sea Chip is a little different. This way of functioning for Jay I think is also part of why she gets called the capable one, or the one with the brain cell, because it tends to keeps her more on track than the other two. If she really wants something in a situation, she’ll focus on getting it. She’s just as silly as her co-captains, she just stays focused on what she wants and sometimes that want is the reasonable outcome to a situation (sometimes its not though, and those are my favorite times). Because Chip and Gill are more uncertain people, I think they’re more easily distracted from what they’re trying to achieve. Does this make sense? I’m a little brain fogged
I have a lot more I want to say but I’m not finding the right words so I might come back to this later. I want to talk about her self worth in recent episodes, about how she’s sometimes treated in fandom AND in universe like she can do no wrong but really she’s a very messy person, and I want to give some examples of both big and small choices and scenes that reflect what I’ve been talking about. At some point I will
Ep 128 of Riptide Spoilers under the cut
So you know how Charlie’s really good at doing long reflective monologues for Gillion? Yeah…yeah . Turns out trying to push a pearl up a hill instead of being in one is very therapeutic and also infinitely worse.
Ep 128 of Riptide Spoilers under the cut
So you know how Charlie’s really good at doing long reflective monologues for Gillion? Yeah…yeah . Turns out trying to push a pearl up a hill instead of being in one is very therapeutic and also infinitely worse.
(Also also I just realized that it’s technically a soliloquy for this one but yeah lol and the Chip tackle hug/ group hug were pretty sweet)
Colored a Caspian! Does anyone else feel like he’s very Bi/Pan? I look at him and I’m like “ He’s the kind of guy who doesn’t purposely pursue anyone but still pulls literally everyone somehow and isn’t bothered by it. “ lol, that’s my head canon anyway.
Sketched a Caspian, also I’m bad at hands lol
Riptide ramble incoming under the cut.
Ok, so is anyone else fascinated by what’s happening to the captains dynamic right now? Like this is the closest they’ve been in terms of understanding each other but also mentally are in such different places and no one knows how to address it. They’re doing it together but feels like they’re drifting apart at the same time, which is very interesting to watch but also very sad.
Riptide 126 spoilers
I love the pain of freedom arc Jay is going thru since the hole, or more since the fight with her father
having freedom means having to make decisions and bear their consequences and it's not like she had problem with decisions, but there was always someone else making plans, someone else controlling her life.
fromm talked about pain and fear that comes with freedom and theorized that some people prefer the certainty of dictatorship over the uncertainty of democracy and that those people tend to be more subordinate, scared of change, refuse to look inward and worship strength. those are traits that the ferin household upholds and some of them can be seen in jay
(for example the worship of strength comes with denouncing weakness that makes me think of her dreams back from laughinglott, her going with whatever bullshit the boys come up with at the beginning of the campaign, the fear of change could be also interpreted in how long she waited to find answers about eva, and how long it took her to "take a side" between pirates and the raft after she already got attached, besides she is rather closed off about her emotions, it's not about the expression so much as about admitting them. we know she loves the boys and the crew but until gill got locked away in the pearl or the black sea did we see it? did she acknowledged and challenged her doubts about being a riptide pirates before the block?)
To then see her grow from that, overcome those shortcomings and finally make a stance about the dominant power in her life? to make decisions by her own, free from influence and then regret them? It's painful and it's despair inducing. it makes you question yourself. it makes you think it was better to be under the rule, the influence of her family.
but it's just natural pains of freedom, the way that life works. And it okay, it really is.
the way the boys try to reassure her that she made the right choice, cuz she believed it was right. underlining that she believed it, not her family, not the raft, just her pure heart. and when lizzie mirrors her reaction by regretting her choices and thinking that the harm that came with and after the attack on the raft is her fault. and when jay tells her about the pin, reassures her it's not her fault, because she couldn't know. because sometimes people act bad and you can't do anything about their actions. they have the freedom for that, just like you do.
I think it's very good she experiences those pains, because once she overcomes them she will not be bend by anyone's rule again. she needs to accept the consequences of her actions, predicted or not, and learn to live with them, or more despite them. her and gill's journey were always similar and chip acted as a foil, but now with aurora and her decision making paralysis could be a learning experience as she becomes a mentor and support in a process she had to experience too and hopefully they both will walk out stronger
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Riptide 125 spoilers
I dont even think its intentional on their part but gillion and chip straight up cutting jays leg off (and framing it as a bit and not somrthing that is so devastating and terrifying to jay) and then not comforting her, basically paying her no mind, while they try to find something for gillions missing hand and just. Leave Jay on the ground. Stunned and in overwhelming pain. Ignoring her to find something for the guy who is in no immediate danger of bleeding out or dying from shock. Leaving the one other female character to comfort her. When the misogyny seeps through the cracks of everything....
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Relistened to episode 86 (where gilly cries, fish and chip rematch, and jazz is down bad for Chip.)
But we are gonna talk about chip and Jay (and the Choice Gillion made in the Black Sea. For those who don’t remember, in episode 86 Jay gives Gil a wake up moment about how all the people whom he loves and cares about are strong as fuck and can take care of themselves, but more so about how the all care about him and that his burdens are their burdens as well (it’s debatable as to how much Gillian belives this)
But in 116 he chooses to unleash a dark god on the world. Essentially dooming everyone for the sake of chip. Obviously speaking episode 1 Gillian would never, but if he somehow did he would try to leave Jay and Chip, because the nameless prince is dangerous as fuck and this is Gillian mistake. While Gillian is now dealing the brunt of his choice and the guilt for dooming everyone just for chip, I think he made that choice in the moment because even if he knew he couldn’t stop it, he knew he had a bad ass crew, some badass co Captain, and some bad ass friends. And that if anyone could stop it, r Chip and Gil died in the Black Sea, I think Chip knew Jay would eventually suplex that fucker to dust.
Gillian made the choice to save Chip on several levels, but I don’t think that would’ve been enough. Just saving Chip isn’t enough cause there are multiple ways to save Chip. Not just through Arlen. Gillian had to start understanding that he wasn’t alone in this battle against evil, and that he was going to fail, and that his crew, his co-captains, his friends, would all be there. And I think that can be pointed to several moments in the series of Gillian learning it, but I’ve only relistened to episode 86 (and it was Gillian and Jay based so I wanted to focus on how jay has affected Gillian)
im gonna die :(( gillion specifically pointing out the parts of the knight that make them a real person, not just a weapon :(((
charlie: I'm gonna walk up to behind the easel, and take a look through it at how shes doing on her painting, now that Chip has stopped.
painter: What is it now, First Knight? I'm very busy, and just trying to get this small detail- y'know actually, now that you're here-
gill: Yes! Do you need assistance?
painter: You typically have an eye for the grandeur, no? This knight... there's something about him, it's not stoicism, but it's gentleness, and I'm not able to capture it in his expression, but I want this moment, the way that he stands watching over all of us, against the castle, the way that he- I just want those that perceive my painting to be able to smell that flowers he walks though to get to his post, the bread that he ate in the morning, and the love that he has for this kingdom. I see it all, but I cant capture it, and I... I don't know, what is it missing? I just cant...
gill: Well, you got the armor, the sheen, the blade, but... what about his face? What about his hand, the other one, not the sword one, where that one rests? You can see by his feet there this... almost looks like a basket, maybe something his wife or... someone important, prepared for him for the post. That's what makes him a guard I think! The things that make him want to show up.
painter: You think he's spoken for? [...] Honestly, I never even considered that that might be why... No of course, I mean, if there's someone you love in the kingdom, you'd do everything in your power to give your best every day. Perhaps it's not just the kingdom that he's so passionate about protecting but.... Maybe you're right, dear, and I'm missing a bit of detail in the face, and I do tend to try and hide the hands, and make it a little bit easier for myself, and maybe I'm running away from those... from drawing the hard things, the things that really express emotion.
gill: Are you okay?
painter: Oh no, I'm fine, it's just... I certainly hope he isn't spoken for.
gill: I could definitely be wrong, and there's a... Well, for someone like you, sometimes this is the best way to get to know someone, right?
painter: We'll see what he thinks of the painting when I finish.
gill: (surprised) It's for him?
painter: Might be :)
gill: Ohhhhhh, come on oh come on.... How close are you?
painter: I'm almost done.
dm: She raises her brush, and begins to paint some more, and as she does, the- You see, her form, begins to fwhoosh, sort of uh, swirl and it collects into a little ball, she disappears from your view, Gillion-
chip: You killed her
gill: I think I just made that woman settle
dm: -and it moves over to one of the circles on top of the door, and it fills it up, and it becomes solid gold.
