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All Jon Snow and Sansa Stark scenes
The first thing Jon does after that impossible lingering look at Sansa after forcing himself to put physical distance between them after holding her so very tight after calling her “Ned Stark’s daughter” and confessing that “she is the best”, is saying:
“YOU CAN COME SEE ME AT CASTLE BLACK…”
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BONUS:
7.02 / 8.06
The last look for @qinaliel
But of course that could never be...
“Oh, it would be so sweet, to see him once again.”
“Ned Stark’s daughter will speak for them. She’s the best they could ask for.”
Before 8.06 aired, I imagined that Sansa would in some way show up in King’s Landing without Jon’s knowledge and that we’d finally get a real, unedited reaction from him once he saw her. Something he’d be unable to hide despite being in the presence of Dany, someone he keeps controlling his reactions around. I imagined a shuddering intake of breath and his being visibly taken aback as Sansa appeared.
But the episode went on and on and Dany died and nothing happened and then Sansa appeared and Jon was nowhere to be seen and blah blah blah.
But then something did happen.
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Petition for Kit Harington to explain some things
THE VULCAN SALUTE
It was devised by Leonard Nimoy, who portrayed the half-Vulcan Mr. Spock on the Star Trek series and described the gesture as a "double-fingered version of Churchill's victory sign", which was used during the Second World War in the "V for Victory" campaign.
It’s a blessing accompanied by the phrase “Live long and prosper”, and it’s based on the hand symbol used by Jewish priests.
The Vulcans are noted for their attempt to live by logic and reason with as little interference from emotion as possible, but not all of them follow the path of pure logic, some instead choose to embrace emotions.
I don’t even care if I get hate for this. Canon Jon Snow would never fall in love with DT.
As much as these writers have thrown in the term “Northern Fool” to excuse their laziness, Jon is not nor has he ever been stupid. Jon who bent the knee to Mance, and then convinced him to let him live among the Wildlings, anyone? I won’t even get into everything he does in the books. Jon is always portrayed as an intuitive person who can size people up. Upon meeting a new character, Jon has an opinion of them. In their meeting scene alone, Canon Jon would despise DT. He’s highkey judgmental of people with a sense of entitlement, and what was more entitled than her “I was born to rule the 7K and I will” speech?
Further than this seeming question of Jon’s intelligence, it’s out of Jon’s moral character to support D. Jon would never have needed Tyrion (who’s track record is shot at this point, so why is he suddenly wise again?) to convince him that killing D was the right thing. Jon does the right thing without being told to. He spared Mance, even if it was treason. He brought Wildlings south of the Wall, even if it meant the end of the NW. He’s always compromised his personal safety/power in order to do the right thing, which is why Pol!Jon has always made so much sense.
Lastly, I have to ask about Ygritte. Jon loved her. Even so, he betrayed her. Even though he was in an undercover situation, Jon wouldn’t kill an innocent. He blew his cover and left his lover rather than murder an innocent.
So why the fuck is Tyrion having to coax Jon into defeating the Dangerous Tyrant? The woman we’ve just witnessed murdering thousands? Why are they treating Jon like a 16 year old with a mean girl girlfriend who he’s convinced “isn’t that bad”? Why has GOT come to resemble a teen drama in the last two seasons? It’s sloppy character work, and I hope D&D never get their hands on a character I love again.
Most characters were treated like an afterthought this season. What they did and what they said only happened to affect Dany, either positively or negatively (but mostly the latter).
This was especially true for Sansa, who barely got a scene that didn’t in some way revolve around Dany.
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Why do you think Jon told Arya ‘wait for me outside the city’ were they planning to go home before Danny went all hitler and mentioned Winterfell & Tyrion decided to use Jon to do his dirty work for him.
So that’s basically the point at which Jon went from making sense to not making sense in the episode.
They built up the moment as Jon warning Arya to go because it was dangerous and he had something he had to do.
Then a switch gets flipped and Jon is groveling about his love to Tyrion and justifying her actions and saying how ridiculous it is to suggest he kill Dany.
What the hell changed? Well, the Tyrion I scene is the first of the three scenes I think they re-wrote to make Dany’s death more sympathetic. And it totally crushed the rest of the episode and Jon’s character.
This episode should be called The Assassination of Jon Snow.
Yep. It was awful.
My theory is that they filmed the Jon/Tyrion scenes before the Dany death scene but…for one reason or another…they chose to significantly alter Dany’s death scene to make it more “tragic” and “sympathetic” for the murderous dictator.
That meant they had to decide which scenes to re-shoot to fit this different tone. They settled on re-shooting just two scenes: Jon/Tyrion I and II.
Hence why Dinklage talked about filming last with Kit…and he thought he was all done but they had to do a re-shoot so he wasn’t sure if he was actually done this time. I think I’m remembering this course of events correctly. If anyone has more info feel free to pipe in.
Exactly what I think. And I have the feeling that the first J/T was added while they were instead supposed to have only the last one. So J goes to D after speaking with Arya, he kills her and then we have J/T discussing love/duty and unveiling polJ, maybe with T hinting at Jonsa, before the Stark’s goodbye. Think about it, he had that moment with S where he seemed to sense something, and he has experience with his brother and sister, so it makes sense he is the one to spell it for the viewer.
Sadly I think that that was all the Jonsa/polJ that we were supposed to have. And in the end we didn’t have that either.
I’ve gotten a lot of messages in my inbox asking me to explain certain plot developments and character actions in the finale. And folks… I cannot explain. It was nonsensical trash that betrayed nearly every character involved.
Arya: Threatening to cut Yara’s throat for speaking against Jon was totally in character. But not doing the same to Grey Worm? Allowing him and Bran and Tyrion to get away with fucking Jon over after he saved everyone? Arya saw firsthand what Dany and her army did to the innocent people in King’s Landing. And Arya isn’t going to put a stop to Jon’s bullshit punishment? She’s just cool with him being banished to the Wall? Also, not even using her Faceless Men training to break Jon out of prison in the first place? Arya would just let him rot in there for weeks? I think the fuck not. She would’ve freed him as soon as she knew he was in trouble. Arya would move mountains for Jon Snow and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.
Sam and Davos: Said NOTHING on Jon’s behalf. What an utter betrayal of Jon and everything he had done for them. A betrayal of their characters. Sam went from shouting “King of the bloody Seven Kingdoms!!!” at him in the premiere to going “who dis” in the finale. Give me a fucking break.
Tyrion: That asshole. He gets “punished” by being given what he always wanted: power and control. He was complicit in bringing Dany to Westeros and all her shit. He learned the truth about the rightful heir to the throne and did nothing. He betrayed Varys. And not to mention all the other shit he’s done since S4. And Tyrion is the one who stands there and tells Jon he has to go back to the Night’s Watch? “Yeah, so I know I’m the one who told you to kill Dany… and thanks for doing that btw you literally saved the realm from a tyrant… but you’re going to go live for the rest of your life back at the Wall and never marry or have kids. And I’m gonna be Hand of the King and probably inherit Casterly Rock, eventually marry and have heirs. So… we cool?” Fuck. Off. I really liked show!Tyrion but he is dead to me.
Sansa: I have no idea why she asked Jon for forgiveness. Was it because she told people the truth about him? Something that went absolutely nowhere and didn’t affect a single thing in the endgame other than Varys getting roasted? Was it because she couldn’t convince King Bran to stop being a bitch and pardon Jon for having the audacity to kill a dictator and save them all? I don’t know. She had nothing to apologize for.
Jon: What. The. Fuck. I don’t know who the hell that was, but that guy was not Jon Snow. That was not the Jon who left Ygritte and ran back to the NW after she killed one innocent man. That was not the Jon who banished Melisandre for burning one girl and threatened to hang her if she returned. That wasn’t even the same Jon as in S8E5 who was appalled and horrified at what Dany and the armies were doing. He was replaced with a Pod Person in the finale. Jon would NEVER justify the horrors he witnessed. “I don’t know if she did the wrong thing! She had her reasons! Her poor dragon died! She was really upset!” Miss me with that bullshit. That was not Jon.
The decision to send him to the Wall made no sense. Jon gets sent back to the place where he was betrayed and murdered after saving the realm from the WW and a dictator. All to appease Grey Worm, who for some reason has the supreme authority here, and who then just fucks off to Naath anyway. There is zero reason for Jon to spend his life in the Night’s Watch. The WW are gone. The wildlings aren’t a threat anymore. The narrative was clearly heading to a Jon/Sansa ending, and then the writers pulled the rug just for the sake of an ending that no one could’ve predicted.
Do D&D hate Jon? Do they hate Kit? I have no explanation for this travesty, not to mention the nonsense ending of King Bran and his joke of a small council. Their first discussion was about whether to build ships or fucking brothels after Bran already checked out to go on an acid trip somewhere. The fate of Westeros is in competent hands, clearly.