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Awww so cute, look at these three friends, I hope nothing bad happens!!
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This has been a lingering thought of mine regarding how Roger is typically depicted: isn’t it kind of odd that this kid who is a “natural sadist” and is also a supposed symbol of violence mostly drawn as black/blasian
Forgive me, for I’m just a bit confused where it came from. Please let me know if there’s anything wrong with what I’m thinking as well. Thank you!
Hello I'm going to approach this with care!
When people draw or interpret roger as a person of color, it usually isn't coming from malicious intent, but from the way he is physically described in the book: "The dark boy" (pg 21); "he was not noticeably darker than when he had dropped in" and "shock of black hair" (page 71); "swarthiness" (pg 74). These descriptions make him racially ambiguous to many readers, especially compared to boys likw ralph and jack, who are described in more conventionally anglo saxon way.
I can't fully speak on Golding's behalf, especially because overt racial prejudice is not a major focus of the novel itself...and if you sat there and said it's problematic for one of the only racially ambiguous characters to embody extreme cruelty, it is also worth acknowledging that Simon (another character many readers interpret as nonwhite coded) represents the novel’s strongest moral good. Simon functions as a Christ figure in the story, while Roger functions as one of its clearest symbols of unrestrained violence, true evil. Because of this, I dont think Golding was assigning morality based on race..rather I think their physical descriptions contribute symbolically to the roles they play within the book.
And simon works super interestingly in this context.. as a Christ figure, he mirrors many aspects of Jesus. his isolation, his spiritualness, his retreat into the forest (like the garden of gethesemane) before death, and ultimately his martyrdom. Historically , Jesus himself was a Middle Eastern Jewish man, not the fair skinned, blue eyed image that's often normalized in western art and religious imagery. By describing Simon in racially ambiguous ways, Golding may intentionally be challenging the traditional westernized depiction of holiness and purity. And this also connects to some of the novel’s broader themes like the influence of british colonial culture, imperialism, and social conditioning/indoctrinationon the boys’ worldview.
Anyway, I like to think Roger and Ralph work as important contrasts. at first, the novel reflects the hierarchies and assumptions the boys inherit from their society prior to arriving on the island...But as civilization collapses, violence becomes less tied to conventional ideas of superiority and more tied to power itself. So once ralph becomes hunted, lotf stops being only about the oppression of marginalized groups and becomes a broader statement about domination: the impulse to conquer eventually turns on everyone, even those who once benefited from the system
all the different Lord Of The Flies casts (and my book designs)
I can sing high c# if anybody cares 😒
maurice from lotf is such a compelling character
my favourite quote in lotf, in all of literature, really, is “now, though there was no parent to let fall a heavy hand, maurice still felt the unease of wrongdoing”. but it is SOOO misunderstood by everyone who talks about it.
no, maurice was not a child of abuse. his parents did not hate him. the tragedy of maurice’s character is that he knows right from wrong. he remembers discipline, and now that he is without it, he craves it. unlike the other boys who view themselves as men who battle for dominance, maurice views himself as a child. he wants to be told what to do. he wants someone to follow. he wants his parents.
THAT is the tragedy of his character. that is why, despite his better judgement, despite his guilt, and despite his cheery disposition, he is going to follow jack. he is too scared to act independently because he is just a boy who wants authority to make his decisions for him. the memory of punishment is not enough to steer him towards doing the right thing because the authoritative figure in his life has changed and he is not prepared to abandon that.
side note, him being mentioned to be grinning all the time sort of implies that he is a sensitive character anyway… of course this guilt is going to sit with him.
(i’m not saying parents should be allowed to hit their kids, i’m just saying that all the quote implies is that he remembers being smacked for misbehaving. i’m sure every child in the 1950s was smacked for misbehaving. he wasn’t being beaten up by his folks.)
how i think da boyz would react to rollercoaster rides (bc i need to go on one so baddd)
Ralph: just enjoying it, putting his hands up in their air and all that stuff, screaming with joy, typical coaster enjoyer, absolutely loves the ride
Piggy: would lose his specs mid-ride, absolutely screaming with fear, clutching onto the safety bars, comes out shaking and terrified and upset that Ralph dragged him on there
Jack: pretends to not be scared, ends up being scared, clings to the boy next to him (most of the time it's ralph or roger), screaming with voice cracks, comes out trembling but also trying to hide the fact that he was lowk shidding his drawers
Simon: goes on it a little bit scared but still a little excited, 5 seconds after the drop he faints mid-ride, and at the very end he finally wakes up and says it wasnt that bad 😭🙏
Roger: deadpan expression throughout the whole thing, likes to feel the wind in his hair when the ride goes really fast, likes to watch Jack scream next to him loud as fuckkk 😭😭 at the end of the ride he'd be like "yeah it was alright"
Maurice: if there's a camera that takes photos of the boys mid-ride, he always plans up a silly pose for the camera and never fails to look slay in all the photos. similar reaction to ralph, just in a more chill way
one thing I noticed and found interesting in the Lord of the Flies is the boys the group kills are all disabled in some way, the mulberry boy has a facial disfigurement, Simon is implied to have epilepsy and faints/hallucinates, and Piggy has asthma and has impaired vision
I don't think the book was written with this in mind but I still think it's interesting commentary on how society treats disabled people and how dysfunctional/corrupt societies often scapegoat/blame minorities like disabled people to uphold power/divert from their own downfalls(jack claiming Simon was the beast in disguise, the group's treatment and the murder of piggy in general)
also the way piggy and Simon are both isolated from the group and treated as weird or lazy for their disability is reminiscent of how society treats disabled people and adds another layer to their murders and the allegory of civilization(the group constantly on piggy for not being able to do certain tasks and calling Simon 'batty' and 'queer')
this book has been analyzed to death and revival so someones probably already said this but yea I was thinking about this quite a bit
This is 100% a fascinating way to analyze the book, and something that stood out to me in the story as well. I always wondered if the author had taught students with similar disabilities to Simon and Piggy/seen how they were treated, because there is a sense of familiarity to them
I definitely think they represent the disabled in society as well, again, given how they are scapegoated, isolated and treated worse than the other boys.
I firmly think Simon’s death is intentionally emphasizing dehumanization (since the boys are only able to kill him when they think he is a beast, ie “not human”, and dehumanization, seeing a human victim as less than/not human, is a key to “overcoming the ordinary human revulsion to murder” as Genocide Scholar Dr. Gregory H. Stanton put it) and this seems relevant here as well
finished the lord of the flies series and i’m quite fond of all these horrible little gremlins actually
Experimental little Simon thingy
I saw someone having a photocard holder with 1963 jack and I was very inspired, so now I have Simon with me everywhere :]
god forbid a girl listens to a c sharp tuning note
sometimes i think abt the fact that, if you were to tell the kids from lord of the flies that they were all characters in a book and that the book was called "lord of the flies," the only one who would understand why it was called that would be simon
The board game is done-! here some propaganda--- I mean board game sell sheet!
main post for more info Download on Tabletop simulator workshop! (the rule book is in the game btw)
= the confession part =
I choose to make this because my hyperfixation on LOTF which is a good motivation to read a book and do something done, a very nice journey even this made in 2 - 3 weeks but I put a lot of effort in it
the game testing is so fun, my tester recreate the canon event (2 "accident") jack tester review that watching ralph player's reaction when they lose their member is very fun!!! (most of my game tester like to play jack for some reason LOL)
about the name: YES this after the line in THAT rap battle (it so catchy)
also it means the lord (leader) after the (plane) crashed and lord (leader) crashing their goal and ideal to win so you are the lord (the superior one) ... which is the main theme of this game and the most important thing is to resemble lord of the flies ofc--
PS. please! please feel free to review and react, tell me what you think, who you like to play, is it fun? I really want you guys feedback!!
confession #415 ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
What is "six seven" and why do children find it so humorous?
Its April which means its time to start stressing over preparing LotFtober 2026
simon is stronger than me cuz if i had finally gained the courage to talk in the assembly only to be laughed at by everyone TWICE IN THE SAME DAY I would’ve blown my shit smooth off