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[electronicdinosaurgladiator]

My most toxic trait is fully believing that I could get a Vulcan to like me

[bamfspock]

If I lived in a universe with Vulcans it would hit all my worst self-defeating trauma response behavior buttons, specifically the one that make me look for approval or fondness from the people who are least likely to give it. The 'my therapist laughed now I'm winning at therapy' button, the 'getting an A from the tough teacher is the only A that counts' button, the 'this person I just met is so emotionally withholding actually and now I need them love me' button

[bamfspock]

Me: *explains my reasoning behind a particular action or opinion*

Vulcan: Your logic is sound

Me, internally: omg they think I'm logical. I'm going to get an A in Vulcan-ing, which is both normal to want and possible to achieve

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

people getting mad at ao3 for rightfully being firmly against censorship and allowing dark fics that depict taboo subjects in explicit details to be on their platform is so funny to me because ao3 was created specifically to be a fuck you to capitalism and censorship. the point of ao3 is that it’s a place to host and archive any fanwork, which includes fanwork about taboo topics that are not allowed on other platforms like wattpad or fanfiction.net

the whole point of ao3 is that it’s a safe space for all fics, and that includes fics about taboo subjects

ao3 has always been firmly against censorship since the day it was created, that’s why it’s run by fans, for fans, on fans’ donations, why it’s a nonprofit organization, that’s also why it has no ads or algorithms or any of those capitalism bullshit

if you have a problem with that, go to fanfiction.net or wattpad. no one forces you to stay in the house made specifically for the (affectionate) freaks

[tinderbox210]

There is a bizarre strain of puritanical/slut-shamey & misogynistic thinkpieces aimed at SNW Spock. It betrays not only shipping bias but also a total misunderstanding of his TOS personality (and what SNW is expanding on) & how Vulcans actually work. But bc its aimed as Spock, there's a bit of a buffer to calling it out vs if these comments & write-ups were aimed at women. (Not that that would stop it from happening, fighting fandom misogyny is an uphill battle.)

I agree, anon, it's weird and hypocrite when the complaining is rooted in barely concealed misogyny (and the misongynic treatment of female characters in this fandom is a whole other can of worms that would fill many TED talks).

I don't wander often into the TOS tags but even I know how much people there actually love Spock as a slut as long as he's slutting with characters they agree with. If SNW Spock was sleeping with Kirk and McCoy instead, the same people complaining and calling him slut (degratorily) now, would be ecstatic and call him slut (affectionately).

I also still remember seeing a post when s3 started and Spock and La'an became a thing calling SNW Spock a "slut sleeping his way through the entire crew" and then it's... checks note... 2 crew members out of over 200 in the span of 3 years (+ T'Pring but that's still only 3 people in total)... That hardly seems "slutty" and peoples' negative reactions to Spock's love life on SNW seem exaggerated and primarily rooted in fanon/headcanon and shipper bias.

As you said, TOS Spock had romantic and female love interests as well so that's nothing new and in line with established previous canon, for example we've seen him "Vulcan finger kissing" the female Romulan Commander which is one of the most erotically charged scenes in the entire show imo. I don't think SNW Spock has been more slutty than that.

[tinderbox210]

La'an Noonien-Singh and Spock + who fell first, who fell harder

insp.

[tinderbox210]

La'an Noonien-Singh and Spock + the socks in the drawer

[tinderbox210]

Has anyone else noticed a spike in SNW hate/discourse lately? Every time I open my feed I get a slog the same 6 or 7 regurgitated critiques that don't even cite the story to back it up or can be applied to other Trek series. (The shipping/romance discourse is both irritating and incredibly uninformed, and imo you have no room to criticize SNW's aesthetic, humor, or "quippy" dialogue if you like Lower Decks.)

Not just you, anon. I definitely noticed an influx of hate and discourse the last couple of months.

There's always been hate and complaining directed at the show in the past, about characters and storylines, for the show being either too much of this or not enough of that and the other way around, which was fine and not unusual because you can never make everyone happy no matter what or how you write a show and a certain level of discourse is natural, valid and to be expected in every fandom.

But I never had to block so many people like I blocked since season 3 started. It's like the show couldn’t do anything right, except maybe for the TOS 2.0 bits, and people couldn’t let anyone be happy for 5 minutes about stuff that they personally didn’t like. That just sucks and I've seen plenty of other people echoing a similar sentiment about this and how tired they have become of seeing the constant stream of hate and complaining in the tags about everything and how this excessive negativity has sucked a good chunk of enjoyment out of this season for them.

And I agree with you there that a lot of the critique I've seen is unfounded and exaggerated or rooted in poorly disguised hypocrisy and shipper bias - complaining about stuff they give a pass on other shows, for their favorite characters or their prefered ships. The amount of hate directed at La'an for shooting the Gorn and the romance between La'an and Spock are very good examples of this.

So my advice?

Don't be ashamed to use the block button. You cultivate your own fandom experience, so block tags or block people if you don't want to see their takes.

And spread positivity!

Personally I prefer to make pretty gifsets/edits and write stories or just ramble madly about the stuff I liked instead of focusing constantly on stuff I didn’t like.

🖖

[shippersparadise]

This is a special post for the members of this little tag on Tumblr.

Im SUPER new to this tag. When I first started on my SNW journey, I encountered the Spock x la'an shipping here and there and was like, "Huh, not my preferred ship, but it's cute. I wouldn't be mad if it happened." Fast forward to "Wedding Bell Blues" and "A Space Adventure Hour, " and I've packed my bags and fully boarded this ship.

And what I've discovered here, in my short time being part of this little community, is a genuine love not only for this ship but the show as a whole. The general SNW tags have been quite disheartening lately with all this unnecessary vitriol towards this show, and I've found my excitement and anticipation for each episode dampened by it.

This tag has been a refuge from all that.

Everyone here shares my love for SNW, and the occasional criticism for it that I've read here comes from a place of positivity and hope, from a place thats wants to see this piece of media we care about, and take joy from, strive to be the best it can. And I love that. We should see more of that.

What i want to say, to all the people I've chatted with, and who've liked and reblogged my posts, is thank you for welcoming me, a Spock x La'an newbie, to this tag.

I look forward to seeing your posts, reviews, and opinions every week.

Go boldly, friends. ❤️

[tinderbox210]

Aww, thank you and welcome to the club.

We love welcoming new people in our little corner of the Trekverse and are happy that you found your excitement for the ship.

We all have our moments of frustration with the show and need to vent sometimes but overall we try to stay positive and focus on what we love because it's more fun that way.

[kat221022]

Heres the thing, yeah jim and spock. Obviously i love that ship and from day one of watching TOS...

But like im also OBSESSED with spock x laan!!!! I love SNW SO MUCH and i have loved their chemistry the whole way through.

So i keep seeing you either love spocklaan and hate spirk or love spirk and hate spocklaan and i love them both😭

Am i the only one????

[kat221022]

Hi! Isn't the novel you're looking for “Fifty Shades of Love and Affection” by RexIsMyCopilot?

https://archiveofourown.org/works/36158680

OMG! I think it is!!! Thank you so much!!!!!

Aaaaaaa imma read it straight away

[kat221022]

Looking for this fic from ages ago- plzzz help someone in the star wars fandom...

It was obi-wan/anakin and it was this AU where they worked at this tech company. It was really dom/sub (obi-wan dom) and they end up getting married. It explores lots of kinks etc but it was still really sweet and fluffy.

I read it and loved it but didnt save it... this was like 2-3 years ago but idk when it was written. i always think about it and wanted to try and find it.

Counting on you all plz

[mephistopheles]

sorry for being on my bullshit or whatever but spocks gay. hes GAY. im saying this as someone with a basic understanding of narrative structure. hes gay. he is an individual who has grown up forced to believe that What He Intrinsically Feels Is Unacceptable To His Society And Should Make Him Ashamed. he adhered to this concept for DECADES and is only able to break it by realising he finds joy in loving a man. this is TEXT. this is not subtext it is TEXT! im insane

[kat221022]

THIS

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somebody: so what do u like to do for fun? :)

me, very used to being mocked for my interests: ha ha, i dunno, i don’t do anything. Ever

[kat221022]

2500 likes!

[kat221022]

FIVE DAYS TO GOOD OMENS 2 PPL. THIS IS YOUR COUNTDOWN!!!!!!!

[kat221022]

1000 likes!