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they/them, aroace (more ace than aro however), obsessed with Good Omens, especially with Aziraphale and permanently busy

[katfell]

People take a lot of offence at Aziraphale defenders joking or outright just wearily saying Aziraphale has nothing to apologise for, while they don’t see how the constant ‘jokes’ about Aziraphale being called a cheater, home wrecker, traitor, how never asking for Crowley to apologise in turn or just assuming Crowley has every right to mock or punish Aziraphale when he inevitably returns with tail between his legs, dump him, or drink and live in despair for years because his partner has done an incredibly hurtful and inexcusable, and what's more unreasonable thing - is much worse.

F15 was painful for them both. There are many theories and in three months we will know more, and yes, theorising is fun, but watching the fandom spend three years assuming Crowley was right and Aziraphale wrong, was not.

[beerok23]

Good Omens S3 - One scene that screams 'they are married' ❤️‍🔥

Bonus:

😇 He's so happy and proud to be there with his beloved Demon 😈

[enthusiasteditor]

They didn’t just tell the story. They carried it. With grace, humor, heartbreak, and magic. We’re so lucky they were the ones to do it.

[aduckwithears]

Such a shame that it turned out tv!Crowley was in one of the gloomy ones

[dramalamadingdongcertifiedyapper]

I keep seeing posts about the finale from people who loved it being very critical and quite frankly, a bit rude about the people who didn’t.

I saw one particular post today and was going to type my reply (respectfully) directly to them however they tagged it with “if you don’t like my post then don’t engage”. So unlike that author, I will be respectful and just post this into the Tumblr ether.

These are common themes I’ve seen over the past two weeks:

“People who don’t like the finale are just selfish because they didn’t get the ending they wanted” - I would argue that Prime/writers etc have been leading our expectations in a certain direction for years just to pull the rug from under us at the last second. I don’t blame people for reacting this way and I don’t think it’s selfish for wanting a happy ending for our characters. It’s not an unreasonable expectation for a tv show finale.

“If you don’t like it, you just don’t understand media literacy/you’re stupid” - This is a comedy fantasy show about angels and demons attempting to thwart apocalypses. You don’t need a Phd in English Lit/philosophy/psychology/whatever to understand or enjoy this show. Disliking the finale is not an indicator of intelligence level or understanding. It’s a personal opinion, based off of many factors. The same goes with liking the finale.

“This is TP’s ending so you must accept/like/respect it” - respect yes, compulsory enjoyment - no. There should never be any hate/disrespect directed to anyone involved in the show. Ever. But insinuating that media should never be disliked or criticised because a certain person wrote it is just not realistic. No one is above critique. We are all humans with thoughts, feelings and opinions, these are involuntary responses. We are reacting to what we are seeing and it’s ok to discuss these (respectfully of course). God themselves could float down from the clouds and write me a poem and I’m well within my rights to like it or not 🤷‍♀️.

“These people are just selfish, be grateful we got anything at all” - ahh yes, gratitude. Well, this is one I am struggling with. Whilst I really do appreciate what must have been a lot of negotiations and turmoil behind the scenes and a massive amount of effort from everyone involved to get the finale to us at all…. I kinda wish we didn’t get one. There was some fun moments, but the ending completely and utterly broke my heart. I would rather wonder what might have happened than knowing for sure THAT is what happened to them and everyone else in that world. So, I’m sorry, but I cannot be grateful for (in my opinion) a poorly written, plot-hole ridden finale with such a bleak, depressing ending. I just can’t.

Anyway, this is just my 2 pence on the rhetoric I keep seeing. I am so happy for you if you loved the finale. I really wish I did too.

The point of this post is just to ask can we please just have a bit more respect for each other? I really do not understand or agree with people who loved the finale at all but I will not call you selfish/stupid/ungrateful for doing so.

I hope both sides can be pals again some day ❤️

[iforgiveyouprime]

Season 1:

Adam: but I'm just a kid...

Aziraphale: but that's not a bad thing to be, Adam. You know, I was scared that you'd be hell incarnate, I hoped you to be heaven incarnate. But you're not either of those things. You're much better. You're human incarnate.

Crowley: Adam, reality will listen to you right now, you can change things.

Aziraphale: and whatever happens, for good or for evil, we are beside you.

For me, the meaning is this: we, humans, from the smallest to the greatest, are capable of changing the world. We can refuse to be what others tell us we are. We can choose our own path. It doesn’t matter whether we are children or adults — everything is in our hands. Our destiny, and therefore the destiny of the world, is in our hands. What we are born as does not define us.

Unfortunately, I don’t know how this line originally looked in English, but in the Russian translation of the book there is a sentence like this:

“It’s just like expecting a tailless mouse to give birth to a tailless baby mouse.”

That is the essence of Good Omens. Those who think they mean nothing and have no influence are deeply mistaken. Every person matters; every voice matters. What we are born as does not determine who we truly are.

The Antichrist, whose purpose at birth was to destroy the planet, humanity, and claim his throne, is an ordinary eleven-year-old boy who rejects his predetermined role because he sees no point in ruling or power, he simply doesn’t need it. All he wants is to enjoy life on Earth, to enjoy playing with his friends, the small earthly joys, imagination, his imperfect but loving and loved parents, to go to school, to play with his dog in the garden, to steal apples from the neighbor’s tree, to grow up and love, to love, and love again this imperfect world.

We can change the world. We can do it by starting with ourselves, by refusing to accept what we are told we are by definition, by default. And it doesn’t matter whether it’s for good or for evil, our Aziraphale and Crowley, faithful (shitty, but still lol) protectors of Earth, humanity, and the small earthly pleasures that we created and that they came to love just as much as they love humanity itself, will always be with us, believing in us.

[olfactoryventriloquism]

So, I’ve been obsessed with Pratchett since I was 15. That’s 23 years for those keeping count. I just finished GO3 and these are my initial thoughts:

Crowley and Aziraphale becoming human: I don’t love, but you could argue that that was what he planned, and I would buy it. It does follow some of his themes.

But there is a knife’s edge that Pratchett balanced between fury and compassion. He absolutely loved humanity, but he also hated what humans did to each other out of malice, spite, or even laziness. Good Omens the novel was filled to bursting with that.

The end here lacked all of that somehow. God in S1 is unknowable, but God is S3 is just a capricious bitch who seems to have it out for Crowley specifically and through him Aziraphale. The viewer certainly gets angry at God, but the narrative seems to be that, while cold, she is doing the right thing and giving them their happy ending. And while Crowley expresses compassion for humanity, it falls on such deaf ears that the narrative doesn’t actually support that.

The closing sentiment seems to be that we can make their lives better by just erasing all their trauma and baggage. No. Sam Vimes did not pull himself out of the gutter and bodily hold himself out of it every day to be told that actually amnesia would be best. If you wanted to make them human: make them keep their memories. That would have been fine.

Terry would have Crowley and Aziraphale say “fuck you” to God and protect the earth as it was. The way they protected Job’s children. The way they did at Tadfield Airbase. Here they just throw in the towel and start a new universe. They accept their failure so quickly as to be farcical.

And you will never ever convince me that TERRY PRATCHETT would have allowed the words “a story shouldn’t live past its ending” to be spoken without the speaker being immediately eaten by a banshee.

[katfell]

Why was the whole thing framed as if Crowley was the - romantic and devoted one even in his pain because he kept an eye on the bookshop? Oh what noble sacrifice.

When Aziraphale was the one who gave up everything just so he could try and avoid their dying horribly (or living in a far worse way forever)?

Why was Aziraphale deemed the guilty one? Why did Crowley never as much as hinted at being sorry for leaving him for years alone?

What happened to Mr "I won't leave you on your own"?

Aziraphale succeeded and got not a single word of thanks or appreciation. No. He is constantly blamed and shamed and questioned and criticised. "And how's that working out?"

Fuck off Crowley. He saved your sorry ass from eternity in a burning goo. And you couldn't even run a bookshop. And not pick up rents.

[naniiebimworks]

Actually…. let’s let them sleep.

It’s still pretty bad outside.

wekthesnek

[theonevoice]

Ngl, the more I think about it the more it seems to me that the egomaniac annihilator god is self-insert by someone who thought "if I can't play with this toy anymore I will smash it into dust so nobody else will have fun with it either ever again".

[nervanna]

Heading straight to Paris cause they don`t serve pancakes at Alpha Centauri

[katfell]

Good Omens and Aziraphale Scorn

The idea of having a more Crowley tinted lenses on for S2 seemed like it should pay off in S3 when Aziraphale's hope and rationality and hard work will be rewarded and acknowledged in the end. Now it just looks sinister because the good and kind angel is just stupid and pointless isn't he. Everywhere I look, there are metas about how he's not learned anything and should have listened to Crowley. Cynicism won.

And yet, it was Aziraphale who saved them anyway. Yes, I expected Crowley and he will renew the Universe without Heaven and Hell, but dissolving into nothing is still a better fate (imo) than eternity apart - especially if God would be cruel enough to keep them separated and Crowley would suffer the demon's fate of the Second Coming.

My point is, Aziraphale's tenaciousness is what got them to the finish line. Everything was always stacked against them. And Aziraphale kept them safe. And alive.

Pushing Aziraphale into the side character / love interest / reluctant silly girlfriend / hardworking wife who does everything and gets blamed for everything too while the poor husband drinks and mopes - - it's clear what NG thinks of the kindness and determination and self sacrifice of Aziraphale and many AFAB people in the world. Their suffering does not matter. It's just a means to an end of the glorious hero. The end that does not even make sense in the end. And fell very flat for me.

[katfell]

Hello agender majesty 🧎

[leighlew3]

ALL. OF. THIS.

[dalliancekay]

Fooling the Lad- Lord

Chapter 2

“Are you angry with me?” Aziraphale responded by shaking his head.  “I chose the universe over you.” “So did I.” “But that was,” Crowley continued, back on his feet and to his pacing around the bookshop. “We-we couldn’t have been happy then. Not if we knew what was going on. Heaven and Hell.” Crowley gesticulated wildly. “As you said - I just didn’t think, you know, that the system could change.” “I know.” Aziraphale agreed quietly. “But the thing wasn’t to know it can change. It was to keep going in uncertainty.” “Angel.” “And - we still don’t have that.” “What do you mean?” Crowley asked, voice rising. “Certainty darling. About anything. Can we be happy?” Aziraphale laughed. “We spent 6000 years arguing and bickering. And hiding.” “I thought that was what marriage was about?” Aziraphale turned to Crowley then, smiling.

An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

Chapter 2 of my GO3 fix it ❤️ I'd be delighted if you gave this a go ✨ Or start with the prologue here.

[mwagneto]

running out of ways to say how insane it is that crowley starts out s3 drunk and depressed and hopeless and suicidal and fully ready to just die and then never gets better and ends the show by killing aziraphale and himself. like. what an astronomically bleak thing to put in your ROMANTIC COMEDY

[purpie-goddess]

"In every universe" EXCEPT THE ONE THAT MATTERED