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they/them, aroace (more ace than aro however), obsessed with Good Omens, especially with Aziraphale and permanently busy

[katfell]

Imagine Satan popped up at the end of S2, offered Crowley a job over an innocent cup of tea. Some vague threats over the soft angel he’s been spending too much time around. And how they could easily make him suffer. Unless perhaps Aziraphale wanted to offer his brains for a good cause. The next war. Why won’t Crowley suggest this perhaps.

Crowley asks Aziraphale to help him. Stop them. Begs him. Says he needs him. 

But Aziraphale says there’s no point. Heaven and Hell can’t change. It’s the divine plan. And walks away from him. Then turns back from the door and grabs Crowley by the lapels and kisses him. Expecting Crowley to change his mind. Leaves.

But Crowley decides to go, determined to try and avoid the next disaster. And he does. He works hard in the disgusting place he despises to avoid another war while Aziraphale back on Earth spirals, loses the shop to mafia, sleeps next to Crowley’s car that’s gathering dust. 

3 years laters Crowley shows up, looking for lost Eric or somebody and comes across Aziraphale. Dirty and drunk, asleep in alley. Oh but first Mrs Sandwich stops and gives Crowley shit about the whole street falling apart because of him. 

Aziraphale tells Crowley to fuck off. He has been abandoned after all. And he’s terribly drunk. ... Crowley of course immediately scoops Aziraphale into his arms and apologises profusely for being away for so long and leaving him.

[argylepiratewd]

I just wanted Aziraphale to be happy and loved as himself. That's it. I don't see why that was asking too much of Good Omens 3. I wanted him to finally get to live freely and happily with his beloved as he deserved. He fought like mad to do the right thing, and he earned his happily ever after.

I needed this:

And no, that ending did not give him that.

[dalliancekay]

Hope this won't get flagged. Again.

[abraham-wrote-mockingbird]

Crowley who asked to go off together to alpha centauri when the world was ending, Crowley "tell me you said no" when the world was ending again, but was fine with staying there when the world truly ending? I don't buy it. He wouldn't let that happen to Aziraphale, he wouldn't let him die like that

[letmetemptyou19]

the fact that crowley and aziraphale performed the tiniest half-miracle they possibly could and it generated enough power to resurrect 25 people from the dead, only for it to NEVER BE MENTIONED AGAIN, is and always will be my roman empire. WHY WAS THIS NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN

[orayart]

kisses kisses <3

[dalliancekay]

Was Crowley in the gutter because of Aziraphale? (No - that would make him simply too co-dependent on Aziraphale. And that's unhealthy. He is a demon that spent 6000 years on Earth, I assume ~90+% of the time he was away from Aziraphale. He knew how to look after himself.) But I don't know.

I think (as I said before many times) Crowley was given depression by the plot because it would show us how hopeless his world was and how cruel to him. With no way out. If this came with side of blaming and shaming Aziraphale - even better!

S2 opened with Crowley questioning what's the point of anything. Clearly Aziraphale knew he's not doing great and called him all the time to tell him stuff that happened or things he did etc. (I've never understood why so many posts and metas were saying Aziraphale missed Heaven - what in his behaviour in S2 implied he was missing Heaven??) I assumed Crowley was not happy because even after all that happened with Armagedon't they were still not safe (Hell could get Crowley anytime as they demonstrated in both seasons) and that it would get resolved in S3.

But S3 decided that Heaven and Hell are just robots doing their jobs and can't change so Aziraphale was pushing a boulder up a mountain only for it to roll back down on him when the Archangels would seethe and not understand why Aziraphale wanted to change things.

I mean we (a few of us who cared to think about what Aziraphale was experiencing between S2 and S3) did expect he won't have a great time but we all hoped (I think) he would be backed up by some angels. Maybe a couple of the archangels will turn out to be allies, maybe more lonely angels like Muriel will want a better end for themselves.

Anyway.

My point is, Crowley was unhappy with Aziraphale around. And he was unhappy when Aziraphale wasn't around. And it was because he knew (the truth all along) the universe he lived in was unsalvageable. For some reason.

Was Aziraphale to blame for this though?

Aziraphale after all, with his delaying and checklists, stressed so bad he looked ready to shatter into- wait, bad metaphor. Sorry. Aziraphale managed to delay Second Coming for years. On his own. Alone, against all of them. Of course he could never have held back forever. I never expected him to. I expected Crowley will come to help Aziraphale somehow. Whether someone will tell him to again (like Beelzebub invertedly did by explaining how bad the missing Gabe problem was) or maybe, he will finally realise on his own that running away from big looming problems is not gonna work. Character development! Trust Aziraphale. Trust his love. His intentions.

Eh, but what do I know.

[letters-to-good-omens]

Aziraphale dear, Thank you so much for every time you were there when I wanted to hurt myself. With your whimsy and your delight in humanity and your trust and your softness. You always gently remind me that there are things to look forward to even amid all the pain and uncertainty. Even if I feel like I don't understand the world or how to navigate it, I take comfort that even you, a clever, strong, kind angel sometimes don't. And you laugh about it or make amends. Or both. And you keep going. And. So I will try too. I won't ever accept you are not in this world. I know for a fact you keep enjoying your sushi and desserts and your demon who worships you.

Love you, x

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[kn3333]

All I can say is it’s my first time

[argylepiratewd]

Imagine looking at this sweet, brave baby and thinking "Ah, yes, he deserves to be belittled and insulted repeatedly, treated like the villain for *checks notes* enjoying earthly pleasures and trying to make things better and save the universe and make Heaven and Hell stop treating people like shit, and not get the happily ever after he's dreamed of for so long."

Imagine looking into his round pookie sunshine face and his bright eyes and being mean to him.

[letters-to-good-omens]

you deserved to live.

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[letters-to-good-omens]

My dearest Crowley and Aziraphale,

Its been 2 months now since all my nightmares came true and I lost you both. In fact, today is my first birthday without you. It's not getting any easier. I love you both dearly, and miss you every day. I hope it's nicer wherever you ended up, and that you're together and finally happy, just like you always deserved

- Ezra 💜

[katfell]

They are wherever we want them to be Ezra. Right here with us. Happy birthday!

[katfell]

Jumping on the poll bandwagon. Because I have a question too. Two months on;

Did you change your mind about GO3 at all? Since your first watch?

No, I've liked it from the beginning.

No, I've disliked it from the beginning.

Yes, I like it more now.

Yes, I dislike it more now.

My opinion has gone back and forth/it's complicated.

Haven't watched/results etc.

Remaining time: 21 hours 25 minutes

[hey-must-be-a-devilbetween-us]

the thing...the thing is that...the part that really gets me...

It's that Crowley fell out of love with Aziraphale, I don't know how else I'm supposed to read this characterization I saw on my television screen.

It's part of the just complete thrashing Aziraphale receives in the finale for no fucking reason, but Crowley absolutely does not care to give Aziraphale one fucking inch of compassion or understanding. Even when Aziraphale is asking for it, openly. Standing to the side while God tears Aziraphale to shreds, looking on at it smugly like you seriously want me to believe there is a universe in which Crowley would find satisfaction in Aziraphale being hurt. What The Absolute Fuck.

And then the dream that Crowley has been holding onto for the longest time in the narrative, 'Our Side, A Group of the Two of Us, We'll run away together, We Could have been Us.' is just thrown away.

Crowley gave up on that dream, he was the one in the end to give up on them - which is endlessly ironic given how that's what Aziraphale has been accused of in this fandom since the s2 finale - and asks Aziraphale to give up on it too (for nothing)

And then he sees Aziraphale crying, and see's Aziraphale swallow his words and his pain and you're telling me Crowley isn't interested to hear what Aziraphale is really thinking or feeling at all?

You want me to believe there is a world in which Crowley isn't devastated that Aziraphale is too afraid to say something to him? Of all people?

And frankly, I just don't buy it, I refuse it patently, there is simply no way that Crowley falls out of love with Aziraphale after 6000 years because they had an argument and he got his feelings hurt.

Aziraphale didn't do anything to deserve this treatment from him, he's being a fucking prick, withholding affection and love and forgiveness from someone because they 'wronged you' instead of talking about it is fucking toxic. There is simply no way, that destroys the finales legitimacy in one fell swoop, done deal. That's not Crowley.

[obligateweirdo]

Yeah, so much for that “unbreakable line,” I guess, hunh.

Depression can do that, and Crowley is depicted as severely depressed, but what he needs is inpatient treatment, not to be tasked with the fate of the universe.

Besides, he isn’t human. (I know at its base the story is about humanity, because ALL stories told by humans are about humanity, but their eldritch nature throws humanity into sharp relief.) A few years must seem like an eyeblink to him. Maybe it did. Maybe his three-year bender was like one drinking binge to a human (to which we may be entitled after a bad breakup).

Maybe he needed a century-long nap and would have waked up feeling more himself. I would think beings designed for immortality would be resistant to crippling depression.

And here I go, trying to rationalize all the terrible choices of the finale. But it’s the main reason I can’t rewatch GO3–to see Crowley not even react to Aziraphale with a tiny reflex start of recognition, and to watch everyone take a crack at Aziraphale without acknowledging that he tried, he really tried; that he loved Crowley and was loved in return.

What’s the good of eternal love that isn’t eternal, or of “finding each other in every life, in every universe” if they’re just going to end up broken?*

*I randomly watched a movie last night called Timestalker. It’s B- at best, but it demonstrates very clearly how unrequited love through many incarnations is another form of Hell.

[masnadies]

I don't know what to write.

Crowley wasn't himself because his optimism died after the apocalypse, and he got depressed. And can he even use anti-depressants? And he wasn't himself, and so he couldn't really reconcile with Aziraphale, who had also had a horrible 3 years of trying to save Crowley and the world. The depression makes the whole thing messed up. Because yes depression can do these things and worse to you. But it means there was no solution. I've had depression on and off in my life, I know many of its tricks, but it tricks us all differently, so it's hard to say why it feels so off to me. I've also had anxiety and been told I wasn't good enough and tried to hold things together for too long by myself and fallen apart in the end when I knew I could never be good enough for the people I cared about. The only way for Crowley to heal was for him to believe that Aziraphale was truly living for him, but depression made that impossible, and the only way for Aziraphale to heal was for Crowley to finally say that Aziraphale was good enough for him and he loved him. We were supposed to read catch-22 (which you should. Your library will have a copy. Read it next. It was my favourite book as a teen), but this isn't what I wanted us to get out of it. Something with time. Something with Milo Minderbinder? Something with loyalty oaths would have been amazing! I have hated them since I read that and for an American, that's quite a breakthrough. Not this. This isn't how it was supposed to end.

[sunraysss]

you CANNOT convince me that Anthony “And. I. Did. Not. Care. For. It.” J Crowley wouldn’t have defended Aziraphale when God said that he was lazy, gluttonous and prideful…

[zerachin]

that one samurai cat pic but it’s aziraphale holding snake crowley

[trix1erose]

UK heatwave suffering ineffable husbands because i can’t fucking do this weather much longer