nothing is more annoying than when ppl refer to the time sasuke was seeking justice for his clan and trying to revolutionize the shinobi system as ‘stuck in darkness’ or ‘blinded by hatred’
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nothing is more annoying than when ppl refer to the time sasuke was seeking justice for his clan and trying to revolutionize the shinobi system as ‘stuck in darkness’ or ‘blinded by hatred’
i have never seen anyone be as big of a bootlicker than naruto uzumaki
how shitty of a person do you have to be to not give your “brother” and “best friend” justice for the way his village commit genocide against the friend’s clan and family?
all in the name of respect from the villagers, which he already had by the time he became hokage.
i should’ve known that i was a lesbian when i started kinning sasuke in 6th grade because of all the attention from girls he got
(in case you don’t know, lesbian means girl who’s only attracted to girls)
I love team taka but i have to be honest. if they stopped getting in the way during the fight with killer bee sasuke would’ve won.
also, that cool ass chidori laser he used to cut the tentacle that was about to crush karin to death should’ve been used first chance he got so he wouldn’t have to waste chakra on her (i love karin so much please don’t hate me for this)
so the hyuuga clan really just practiced slavery out in the open and the most anyone could do was wait for some kid to come along and talk about destiny with him?? was there really nothing they could do or did hiruzen just straight up not care
Hot take, Naruto wouldn’t be nearly as strong as he is without kurama. Wouldn’t have his kage bushin, probably wouldn’t have sage mode, definitely not rasengan.
Even hotter take, if neither Naruto or Sasuke had tailed beast chakra at their final battle, Sasuke absolutely would’ve taken the win.
Hottest take of the day, sasuke wouldn’t even need the sharingan/rinnegan.
Things I’m still salty about: Tsunade didn’t even want to be Hokage, and yet she managed to rebuild the village from the ground up not once but TWICE, worked herself into a coma to protect everyone in the village that she came out of pretty quickly, survived being SEVERED IN HALF and still managed to concentrate her efforts on healing the others around her and she’s STILL not held to the same standard or given even a fraction of the same recognition as the other MALE Hokages.
the sexism in the fandom and with kishimoto himself is appalling. i hate tsunade but she’s not nearly as bad as some of the other kage
One thing that really pisses me off about the trajectory of the Naruto narrative is that it presents huge, glaring problems with the shinobi system, culture, and society, has the main characters notice and acknowledge these problems, but never has them solve these problems.
For example, at the beginning of the series in the Land of Waves arc, the real antagonist is not Zabuza, but Gato, a ruthless billionaire, capitalist that hires shinobi to help him monopolize businesses in small lands until he controls all of their wealth at the expense of their people. He does this in the Land of Waves, but Tazuna is building a bridge that will open up commerce and sap some of his control and profit, so he hires Zabuza to kill him. Before that, he publicly executed Inari’s dad for organizing the people in the Land of Waves against him.
After Team 7 fights Zabuza and Haku, and Haku sacrifices himself to save Zabuza from Kakashi, Gato shows up with some manpower with the goal to kill Tazuna AND Zabuza because he doesn’t want to pay Zabuza for the job. Mad at Haku for disrespecting him before, he kicks his dead body. Naruto gets upset by this and confronts Zabuza about his lack of anger re: how Haku’s body is being treated. This is when Zabuza states that shinobi are simply tools to be used and that he only used Haku for his skills and we get Naruto’s “he cared about you [...] to die as a tool is just too sad” speech.
Naruto is upset by the fact that shinobis’ are only viewed as valuable if they can provide their labor for a service that enables someone else to profit. Outside of that, in this capitalist system, their humanity and lives aren’t viewed as valuable or worthwhile. He’s afraid that he will end up thinking that way, too, the longer he is a ninja, hence him asking “is that how you get when your powers are as strong as yours?”, i.e., heartless/only viewing people as valuable based on what you can get from them.
Unfortunately, the shinobi system operates in a capitalist society and ingrains an ideology into it’s children (LITERALLY CHILD SOLDIERS THAT PERFORM LABOR SO THE VILLAGE CAN PROFIT) that teaches them that their lives ARE only valuable if they work to serve the world’s countries’ leaders (daimyo) (and the wealthy) because that is literally how the shinobi villages get paid: by taking jobs, even assassinations, from these wealthy, powerful people. They’re literally tools of a violent, capitalist system!
Naruto’s whole character is based in the fact that he rejects this idea of what being a ninja means and that he wants to be a different type of ninja who operates in a different kind of system, one where people’s lives are valued not just for what they can produce for the wealthy and powerful. This is why the ending sucks so badly and why Naruto seemingly betrays everything he is with that epilogue. Why the shitty ending and the retconning of Naruto’s character? I think there are a few reasons:
1. Kishimoto sucks at writing, 2. he caved to the pressure his editor’s put on him when it came to changing the story too often, 3. he lives in a capitlist country and even though he can see the problems capitalism creates (war is bad! valuing people based on what they can produce through their labor for the wealthy and powerful is bad! oppressing people is bad!) he can’t admit that capitalism is the problem because the cognitive dissonance is just too much. Kishimoto has a bad case of the liberal-like idea that even though xyz oppression or harmful acts is bad, we need to be nice and peaceful and patient and polite when asking for justice—eventually they’ll give it to us (hence the demonization of Sasuke’s character and his attempts to fix the injustices of the system by the other characters in Naruto. He wants change and he’s not afraid to call out the fact that the system sucks and that those who maintain the status quo are responsible for it continuing to suck. He feels no cognitive dissonance about it).
Justice for Naruto and justice for Sasuke tbh. They deserved a world where the system was dismantled, where shinobi villages stopped working for the wealthy and powerful for their own interests, where shinobi could produce their own resources and maybe do some meaningful shit in the world, like provide mutual aid, instead of being forced into violence to line someone else's pockets.
Was there any mention in the naruto series of the characters getting therapy? no counseling? kid with demon that almost destroyed the village inside getting bullied but no one does anything? kid watches entire family get murdered over and over in a genjutsu by his older brother and there was no one he could go to? child walks in on fathers dead body, watches his best friend get murdered and then kills another but no one says “hey maybe we should take him to a professional”? Maybe hiruzen wanted traumatized soldiers to fight for him because then they’d all have motivations to get stronger. If anyone has something that contradicts or confirms this please let me know.
Taking a break from my usual “uchiha did nothing wrong” posts for a moment to show you all my drawing of sakura
Naruto fans seem to forgot all the time that Indra was manipulated by an outside force into behaving the way he did. Kinda like his future reincarnate Sasuke.
i don’t care if itachi “thought like a hokage”, he was still a fucking abuser when forced sasuke to watch his family’s death thousands of times in a mind damaging jutsu for the sake of “hatred”. I also don’t care if itachi was only 13 himself either. Bitch ass shinobi.
Now that i think about it, “itachi thinks like a kage” makes a lot of sense considering both he and other kage spit anti uchiha rhetoric and are on board with genocide if it means a clan you don’t like won’t try to make attempts to get equality.
Half of the fandom siding with Itachi and his motives/reasonings for what he's done does not sit right with me AT ALL!
UCM
I really want to talk about what the ucm could actually do to someone. When Itachi murdered the clan, he didn’t just murder all of sasuke’s family, he likely also killed any sort of cultural identity. Think about it, how would you feel if you were the only one let of your culture or country. Just some little kid, and you are now the only one in the world who practices your culture, your way of life. You would feel pretty upset too wouldn’t you. And I feel bad wondering how Sasuke felt in that time between the end of the war when all the other uchiha were killed and when sarada was born. I, personally, would’ve felt very alone. The only one with your genes, your last name, your culture, your heritage? I don’t know if i would have been able to do it. Not to mention, being so young at the time they were all killed, you probably have forgotten a lot of it too if it wasn’t all written in a book somewhere. Someday, you’d start to feel guilty that you can’t remember much. Like their faces, voices, the food they cooked, the clothes they wore? But the biggest part is that the uchiha were very loving. The curse of hatred is constantly criticized throughout the series because the clan would be over whelmed with desire for revenge and justice when a family member was killed that they just wouldn’t stop. And apparently, this was a “bad thing”. if someone i loved deeply for was murdered i would not stop being angry either. Like, if someone killed one of my siblings i’d kill their killer first chance i got, and i’d still never be satisfied. When itachi killed the clan, sasuke was consumed by this “curse of hatred”. He lost all of that love in the clan that was so important. It’s kind of just like another thing in the uchiha culture, another thing taken from him. It was never just simply killing his family, Itachi literally took away being an uchiha.
If i could change anything about the Naruto story, it would be that we could get to see more of team hebi/taka. We know for a fact that they all really cared for each other and i’m pretty sure that the team hebi relationships were a lot more healthy than that of team 7. By more i mean more conversations, shenanigans, more heart to hearts, maybe even a support/comfort for one of the characters. and more one on one moments between them, like karin + juugo and sasuke + suigetsu. they all seem like such good friends i felt bad when sasuke was manipulated into leaving them after his mental breakdown.
Here’s your friendly reminder that Itachi killed civilian uchiha who most likely didn’t even know about the coup. These included shop owners, farmers, and the vast majority of clan members who didn’t even have the sharingan. They were literally just regular ass people
It seems that everyone forgot that the curse mark sasuke got was literally brainwashing him into wanting to abandon the village and getting power from orochimaru. it’s not his fault that the doctors and seal experts couldn’t remove it. it’s not his fault he couldn’t fight off a legendary sannin at 12 years old. You literally can’t put any blame onto sasuke.