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yoongi: are you taken?
seokjin: um yes taken for Granted
namjoon: on a scale of 1 to 10, you’re a 9. cause I’m the 1 you need.
seokjin: no, no. i’m a 10
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a new logo, a new era, a different meaning, same 7 boys who we love.
The mistreatment of Jin - a BigHit callout post
A lot of people seem to think that BigHit could never do wrong and know what’s best for BTS. They think BigHit and BTS are a “family”. Well it’s time to wake up..! BigHit isn’t any better when compared to big companies like SM or YG for example. They’re just as problematic like K-Pop companies often tend to be. The perfect example of this is how they’ve been treating Jin these past 4 years.
!! - a few of these facts are just borderline emotional abuse..
okay, let’s get started:
- Apparently Bang-PD walked around calling Jin fat???? wtf (this was 2013, before their debut and around the same time Jin went on a diet no one talks about where he only ate chicken breast for A YEAR.)
- And guess what? Bang-PD isn’t the only one who has called Jin fat: even his manager did. Fortunately they fired him because he was mistreating Jungkook.
- Jin majored in acting but in the House of ARMY, he got all the insignificant roles with basically zero dialogue. Yoongi even said Seokjin had texted him, shocked that he didn’t have any dialogue in the script. In the Making of-video he was clearly pissed: when the camera man said they’ll be filming Jin next he said “Oh, wow. Do I get to appear alone?” asdfghjkl. Jin was salty, but tried so hard to be positive. (he even avoided looking straight into the camera while they were interviewing him.. on the inside he was definitely feeling wronged.)
- Let’s be honest. BigHit could easily push him in the OST direction or debut him as an actor if they wanted, but no.
- Jin was once forced to perform even though he had hurt his neck in Kcon Paris. BigHit never made an official report about his condition… (it’s funny how they made a report about namjoon’s toe and suga’s ear but not this.)
- Now let’s talk about his LINES. Remember Blood, Sweat and Tears where he had to share his few lines with Jimin? That was the most unnecessary thing ever. (later in the japanese ver. they made jin’s voice stand out more than jimin’s. lol I guess even BigShit felt a bit guilty??) I’ve seen people trying to defend this by saying that it’s okay because Jin was the ~Main Character~ in the MV. But honestly, where is the logic in that? BTS are a K-pop group! Their voices are the most important thing about them!
- Jin is the only one who didn’t get a single line in any of the year end 2016 special stages (rainism: jungkook, as i told you: jimin, v, jungkook & class idea: namjoon, hoseok, jungkook… suga wasn’t there because of his ear injury.) He was just a backup dancer and nothing else.
- Remember when people were hyping up Spring Day because apparently this was supposed to be the song where Jin would shine… even V said Jin would surprise us all and umm.. well he didn’t.
- BigHit removed Jin from the thumbnail of Not Today MV because ????
- Speaking of Not Today. Let’s talk about this fuck up…
- *coughs* This was his only solo shot and it lasted about 2 seconds. Really. BTS filmed for almost 24 hours in cold weather and you’re telling me this is the only shot of Jin that was “good enough”. I don’t think so, because we saw the Behind the scenes-video and they were filming Jin quite a lot. They just didn’t use the clips.
- They keep telling Jin his voice is suited for ballads, but Butterfly was a ballad and he was once again the vocal who had the least amount of lines. (and some of them were not even lines like repeating “untrue” is.. not really a line)
- … so basically the ballad comment was just some bs excuse, let’s be real no one fits only 1 type of music. Plus here are some Bangtan’s slower/not hiphop songs I think Jin’s voice could easily be fitted in but he still got the least amount of lines: Spring Day Studio Version, Miss Right, YNWA, Just One Day, Outro: Propose, House of Cards, Coffee…
- Now the most recent fuck up is BTS’ cover of Seo Taiji’s song ‘Come Back Home’ and people are still debating whether Jin has ANY lines at all. The MV for the song was uploaded to CJENMMUSIC’s official youtube and their header was changed to a… group photo… of BTS… except Jin was nowhere to be seen. The fact that they forgot Jin is unbelievable and just plain disrespectful. No product should ever be released without approval and double check. None. And while we don’t know if BigHit had anything to do with the header, whose fault it is that even these other companies tend to forget Jin because they aren’t promoting him enough? This was not a simple mistake. It means that design and marketing teams from HUGE companies like CJEN don’t see him.
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I’ll try to make this as simple as possible for those who aren’t familiar with field terms, please note that this is only my interpretation from my knowledge and experience and it might not be 100% similar to Bighit and the design firm’s original ideas.
So BTS and ARMY got a new brand identity. What is brand identity? Brand identity is the identity, the core, motives and goals of the brand, basically everything that makes the brand itself represented in a visual aspect. Logo(s) is one of the most important parts of the brand identity.
This is BTS’ previous logo:
Why this logo no longer suits BTS:
• This logo is made specifically based on the meaning of BTS’ name in Korean, 방탄소년단 (Bulletproof Boy Scouts) taking the image of a bulletproof vest as the base • Technically speaking, it’s not really a practical logo. Too many small details lead to difficulty when used in small scale and used as strokes. • It’s created 4 years ago and the logo trend has changed a lot since then, going more towards minimalism (simpler logos). • Most importantly, it can only represent BTS in debut days. The bulletproof vest stands for “guarding against prejudice and oppression against the youth in their 10s and 20s”. But BTS’ success and achievement have far made them become more than that. They are not only simply defending prejudice and oppression but also offering consolation and hope for the youth as well as everyone else to move forward. This logo isn’t able to express that.
And so they changed BTS’ brand identity and not only did BTS get a new logo, our fandom, ARMY, got one too. (left: BTS, right: ARMY)
Why the new logo suits BTS:
“BTS’ new BI shows that they aren’t satisfied with the realities and symbolize their youth that is opening the door and stepping out in order to further grow, while their fanclub ARMY is visualized as the reflection of BTS’ youth that meets the members as they open the door. The meaning of the brand has expanded as a concept that merges the past and future. Since their debut, BTS has continuously expressed themselves as “boys blocking the oppression and prejudice that teens face” and have added that the meaning of “Beyond The Scene” is “youth that is not satisfied with the current reality and will pursue their dream without rest in order to grow”.” (Source: 매일경제 via Naver, Eng: Christie & Kylie @ allforbts)
• It’s a minimal logo design which has been the trend in the design field in recent years, with many big names changing their logo/brand identity like Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, DeviantArt, Uber, PayPal, even in the Korean entertainment industry, we have YG Entertainment who changed their brand identity 4 years ago too. These are all for the purpose of catching up with the trend and renew themselves for a fresher and more suitable image for the company’s direction in the future and current success. Minimal logos have more practical use when it comes to digital and print design. This shows that BTS is catching up the flow of the times and not caught up in the past. The design is also developed from BTS’ old logo (the bulletproof vest one), the negative space between two shapes represents the front zip of the bulletproof vest. At the same time, it also resembles two panels of a door, symbolizing the action of open a door to move forward to the future, to a new beginning of BTS. This logo is an infusion of the past and the present, the future of BTS, they still stay rooted to their base but don’t dwell on the past, they are not satisfied with what they achieved and will continue to go higher.
• When flipped 90°, the logo resembles a door with a source of light ahead, meaning that when BTS opens this new chapter, there will be a bright future awaiting for them.
• The logo of ARMY is a reflection of BTS’ logo. Here’s a simple animation to show how BTS and ARMY’s logos are connected:
BTS and ARMY’s logos are reflection of each other representing the mutual influence of us and BTS. BTS give us music, hope, determination, ambition, dreams, energy and happiness, and we too are their source of strength, the reason they keep developing themselves to get better and better. As BTS always say, BTS exist because of ARMY and we ARMY are also a part of BTS. The overall shape of ARMY’s logo resembles a shield, meaning we will be the one to protect and shield them against the prejudice and hatred towards them.
• Another reason why I say this is a great logo is because, there are many ways to combine these two logos together. Two of them are:
- When putting BTS’ logo in between ARMY’s logo, it becomes two shields. We are protecting, embracing BTS, but at the same time they’re also protecting us, together we double the strength. - When separating the pieces of each logo and arranging them vertically side by side, they become the symbol of a grand door, the kind of door usually seen in palaces and is commonly used to represent the Gate of Heaven. BTS and ARMY side by side will head to higher places with higher goals.
the is amazing... but I'm still crying !
bts was just showing us the stages of a fuckin LIT college party:
1. take enough high dose LSD to be trippin BALLS
2. forget who you are as a person and question everything in your life until you start seeing colors
3. look for thots
4. have good friends who force-feed you alcohol
4. get the munchies
5. accidentally fuck someone
5. throw up
6. pass out
6. have the mom friend come save ur weak ass
7. have the angry friend come beat ur weak ass
8. escape the traphouse
9. rejoice
the end
I was not prepared for this
Aah okay I completely understand that!! I love their current music but I really like hip hop so most of my favorite bangtan songs are actually from before I joined c: maybe we will see some of that again at some point - namstan non
:)))
blows my mind how ridiculously correct this was
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(2/2) difference in position? I don't think it's impossible for everyone who joined after I need u to understand what they went through. Although feelings are always different for different people. We're all unique so I will never fully understand how you feel. I still have nostalgic feelings and personal relations to their songs, both before INU and after. But these are just my personal feelings :D - Namstan non
I'm not against them or anything! I appreciate all ARMY and respect their love for bts bc the boys wouldn't be who they are today if it wasn't for you guys! I completely understand what you're saying but I also have my personal feelings as well as you do.I'm just a little sad that more fans came after the hip hop eras, resulting in bts straying from albums like skool luv affair, but I'll just have to suck it up. Of course, I still love their current music bc it's lit and bombbb
(1/2) I'm an army that joined after I need u and I understand that there might be a difference between how most fans that joined before and some fans that joined after. I wasn't there to feel how the boys progressed but I love their first songs and I've really tried to set myself into and understand how thay reached the point they did. I might not have the same nostalgic feelings about songs like coffee but I can still hear their progress in their music. i can hear how they grew. isn't it just a
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I mean why does it matter what era they come from? Some people didn't even know about Kpop at all until bts. I didn't join the fandom until hyyh and dark in wild is one of my favorite albums of not my favorite.
Yeah it’s just a personal thing to be honest, maybe I’m just a little bitter with the fact that bangtan is getting so much more popular? I’m just kind of a weird person.
I put the mark at I NEED U because that’s when they blew up and got there first win. However, I’m not saying in a way that fans that joined during I NEED U and after don’t appreciate bangtan’s old music but more of… they don’t truly understand how far BTS have come?
Ah, it sounds realllllly stupid but I came around in the middle of orul82 and skool luv affair, so I have these crazy nostalgic feelings whenever I listen to Coffee or Where Did You Come From. I just feel like those new fans won’t be able to relate to how I feel? Yeah !
I’m sure you love bangtan as much as I do but I honestly find it really hard to bond with another ARMY if they weren’t around prior to I NEED U.
i'm not a nice person
hm. I feel like I can't get a long with army's who joined at I need u and after