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I have my own, everyone can see it story, from work. I was chatting with one of our surveyors (40’s, married, teen kids) and he said ‘I saw that group of yours sing last night.’ I smiled and nodded. So he says, ‘They were pretty good, the one who looks like a Disney prince, with the curls, he’s your favourite, right?’ I nodded happily and informed him that his name was Harry. He didn’t really care, but then said “Does the little one with the cheekbones know the prince is in love with him?”

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i love that story!

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I rewatched the video of harry saying bigger than me and out of my system a few times and I'm sorry but if he wanted to pretend it was just a coincidence he was using some common terms he can't actually do that because the speech made zero sense. He just said a bunch of random words together to have an excuse to say the song titles it's so obvious. And the laugh at the end was like 😄 🤣 🙃😇 I'm so totally random i bet no one noticed. Totally unhinged behavior

UnHINGED. Both of them. They’re ridiculous. 🤣

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https://www.tumblr.com/twopoppies/818870966731046912/i-rewatched-the-video-of-harry-saying-bigger-than

Agree with this and also: the other time when he said “how did I get here?” He actually queued himself up to say it. It wasn’t a natural question he asked in a story recounting or a spontaneous utterance (like if he ended up in the crowd or back of the stage idk). No, no. He literally set himself up by prefacing with something like “you should always be places where you ask yourself, how did I get here”

My man wanted to say it and he wasn’t subtle.

HAHAHAHA! Not subtle at all.

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TIMELINE: TATTOOS TO DATE

This is organized by date. All tattoos are linked to photos, unless they are major tattoos I want to talk about, in which case I have inserted the photos into the post. (Special thanks to thelegohouselove and their wonderful tattoo masterposts with pictures)

Dates are dates I believe they actually got the tattoos. If I can’t find a date they got the tattoo, I have indicated it with a “*” which is the first date we saw the tattoo.

Before we begin, fun facts that might blow your mind:

Harry has 56 tattoos that we know of.

Louis 38 tattoos that we know of.

Harry got 30 of his 56 tattoos between June and October 2012. That’s, on average, about 8/month.

Louis got 10 of his 37 between October and December 2012. That’s, on average, about 5/month.

The most Harry ever got on one day is 4. He got 13 in a 7 day period in October 2012. The most Louis ever got on one day was 5 on February 25 of 2013.

Artist counts for Harry: Tom Atkins (10); Liam Sparkes (10); Freddy Negrete (8); Kevin Paul (3).

Artist counts for Louis: Skunx (7); Liam Sparkes (4); Freddy Negrete (4).

Some of this stuff isn’t an exact science. Some of it is me making an educated guess, especially involving some of Harry’s tattoos in October and Louis’ “The Rogue” vs. “It is what it is” and Harry’s 3 Nails. So bear that in mind.

Over all, this should give you a good idea of just how much the tattoos seem to be an outlet during highly-closeted and stressful times (Harry’s June-October spree that gave way to the birds, ship & compass and butterfly and Louis’ October-December Haylor spree), not only in date alone, but also in the subject of the tattoo.

Thank you to Kerry, Jess & awesomeanonfriend for the cheerleading and fact-checking and Angela for her insight.

Let’s do this.

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[since everything under a Read More cut gets deleted in case a blog deletes/gets deleted and the WayBackMachine isn’t good with pictures, for Archive Purposes Only, I will add the most important bits of the/rest of the full post and have also checked/updated/added the source links to the best of my abilities. I will also add all pictures to make sure absolutely everything is included. Harry and Louis’ tattoos are also color-coded for easier sorting.]

PART 1 “Artist Key:

FN: Freddy Negrete, Shamrock Social Club (LA)

LS: Liam Sparkes, Shangri-La Tattoo (London)

KP: Kevin Paul, Kevin Paul Tattoo (London)

TA: Tom Atkin, friend of Harry & Louis’, fiance of Lou Teasdale (London)

Skunx: Skunx Tattoo (London)

DC: tattoo shop where Zayn and Louis went (Maryland) —

February 1, 2012:

Star outline (Harry) - FN [Harry’s 1st tattoo]

June 15, 2012:

Wont’ stop til we surrender (Harry) - Paul Nguyen [Harry’s 2nd tattoo]

Meta: Harry got this tattoo about 10 days after Eleanor left the U.S. for the first time on the U.S. leg of the Up All Night tour. It was 2 days before she returned. It was at the beginning of the heightened closeting and increased Elounor pap shots.

It is also important to note that this is a modified version of the song lyric from “Sweet Disposition” by Temper Trap.

The song lyric as it is actually written/sung:

We won’t stop ‘til it’s over Won’t stop to surrender

Harry made the lyrics “won’t stop ‘til we surrender,” using parts of each line to make it about more than one person in a struggle against something or someone else.

The next day, on June 16th, Ed Sheeran did the show where he said Harry was “taken” and answered “Innit?” when a fan said “By Louis.”

June 23, 2012*:

Hi (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 3rd tattoo]

A for his mum (Anne) on forearm (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 4th tattoo]

Meta: We did not see these two tattoos until June 23 at the Dallas show. Zayn has said in an interview that he “drew” the A on Harry’s arm. This might mean he actually tattooed Harry himself.

The “Hi” tattoo appears to be in Louis’ handwriting. Just days after the tattoo appeared, Louis appeared very interested in a radio host’s tattoo, asking twice if it was in her handwriting. The interview took place in Tampa on June 29.

Harry: “What does this say?”. Boring stuff about this girl’s tattooed arm. Louis: “Did you write it yourself?”. Everyone: “…”. Louis: “Is that your handwriting?”

In Miami, on July 1st, Harry revealed it said “Hi” but was very coy about it. Liam then declared it his favorite tattoo (out of 4 at the time, but it counts, god damn it) and looked right at Louis.

Same, Liam.

The “Hi” tattoo seems especially poignant as it came in the middle of a heavy Eleanor presence and Elounor push and Harry had Louis possibly tattoo a word on him in Louis’ own handwriting. At the very least, he got a word in Louis’ handwriting tattooed on himself. Almost like a brand.

July 27, 2012*:

I CAN’T CHANGE… (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 5th tattoo]

Birdcage (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 6th tattoo]

I think Liam Sparkes did the “I can’t change…” tattoo, which we first saw July 27, 2012, because the lettering and tone is identical to these kinds of tattoos that Liam Sparkes does:

I think this is also most likely the day Harry got the birdcage tattoo, which I think is a Liam Sparkes design.

This is significant, because it places Liam early in Harry’s tattoo timeline, making the stuff to come in October more important.

August 9, 2012*:

Hanger (Harry) - Unknown Artist [Harry’s 7th tattoo]

I think it’s possible this was done by Liam Sparkes on July 27th, as well.

Meta: The “I can’t change,” birdcage with no door and hanger are the most obvious and heavy-handed series of anti-closeting tattoos Harry has gotten to date. All 3 came between very public Elounor appearances: the France trip in early July and the Olympics on August 10th-12th.

August 13, 2012:

Padlock (Harry) - Ed Sheeran [Harry’s 8th tattoo]

17BLACK (Harry) - KP [Harry’s 9th tattoo]

Pingu (Harry) - KP [Harry’s 10th tattoo]

Iced Gem (Harry) - KP [Harry’s 11th tattoo]

Meta: Ed & Harry got tattoos together the night after the closing ceremonies of the Olympics 2012. In this article from August 14, Kevin Paul (the tattoo artist) says:

I did a couple of bits on him last night […] They’re really personal to him - the reasons he had them done and stuff, so he doesn’t really want to announce what they are […] One was something from his childhood, and another one was something really important in his life.

I think it’s possible the “iced gem” for Gemma is the “something from his childhood.” I think the 17BLACK is the “something really important in his life”, because I doubt a matching cartoon-themed penguin tattoo he got with Ed is important enough to be coy about. Ed did the padlock, so Kevin wasn’t talking about that one.

August 21, 2012:

Never Gonna/Dance Again (Harry) - TA [Harry’s 12th tattoo]

“Big” on big toe (Harry) - TA [Harry’s 13th tattoo]

September 4, 2012:

”Gemma“ in Hebrew (Harry) - FN [Harry’s 14th tattoo]

Shamrock (Harry) - FN [Harry’s 15th tattoo]

Freddy Negrete posted a picture of Harry from the night of the 4th to his instagram the next day on September 5th.

September 8, 2012:

Green Bay Packers logo (Harry) - FN [Harry’s 16th tattoo]

Drama Masks/SMCL (Harry) - FN [Harry’s 17th tattoo]

Filled in star (Harry) - FN [Harry’s 18th tattoo]

You can see the same flash sheets in the mirror next to Harry’s arm as in this picture from Freddy’s instagram account.

Meta: Louis was most likely with him on this night. He is in the far right side of the picture. You can see his butt, legs and shoes with his rolled jeans.

Here Louis is carrying the shoes from around the same time:

(the shoelace is not important to this…it was the only pic I could find)

Louis also tweeted “ouch :(” on the same night:

After this trip, Freddy Negrete responded to a fan via instagram [link not working anymore] that “Harry wanted “a big [tattoo]” on his chest when he was in LA again.

Late September 2012:

2 Cross with K & M (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 19th tattoo]

LOVE Banner (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 20th tattoo]

Meta: These were done in late September, I think. It was after the drama masks but before the “Kiss You” video shoot which was late October.

If Harry did, in fact, have a large chest piece in mind in early September, it’s possible he may have been thinking of the birds by this point. It then might make sense that he would get the “LOVE” banner and then cover it up so soon afterwards. It could have been a part of his design. This is a Liam Sparkes design that includes birds placed similarly to Harry’s with banners and the words “true” and “love” beneath:

continued in Part 2

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PART 2

”October 12, 2012:

Aquarius lines (Harry) - Dublin [Harry’s 21st tattoo]

99p (Harry) - Dublin [Harry’s 22nd tattoo]

Key/Fish skeleton/arrow (Harry) - Dublin [Harry’s 23rd tattoo]

Things I can / Things I can’t (Harry) - Dublin [Harry’s 24th & 25th tattoo]

Screws on ankles (Louis) - Dublin [Louis’ 1st tattoo]

[Meta: Liam said that Zayn, Louis, Harry, and him all got those screws on their ankles: “It’s just screws, they keep you together. I suppose it’s like a keep-you-grounded-sort of thing.”]

October 15, 2012:

Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon album cover art (Harry) - Skunx [Harry’s 26th tattoo]

Stickman on skateboard (Louis) - Skunx [Louis’ 2nd tattoo]

Quote marks (Louis) - Skunx [Louis’ 3rd tattoo]

Far Away. (Louis) - Skunx [Louis’ 4th tattoo]

Meta: Harry had the Pink Floyd tattoo by November 8, but did not get in L.A. that day. He did wear a Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon shirt on October 18..

..so I think it’s quite possible he got that tattoo on the 14th, as it was professionally done (I think). [More info on Harry’s love for Pink Floyd]

This photo of Louis was released/found on October 17th..

..which was after Louis got his stickman on a skateboard tattoo. He appears to be wearing Harry’s shirt. Kevin Paul then retweeted [link no longer active] an article about Louis getting the tattoo, seemingly implying that he was the artist. But he was not, as that is not his shop. His shop has wood floors, while Louis appears to be in a chair at Skunx. [link no longer active]

We first saw Louis’ stick man tattoo on October 16th at a radio interview, but on October 15th, Louis tweeted they were on a video [for Little Things] shoot [in the afternoon] […],

…so I think it’s most likely he got the tattoo on the morning of the 15th.

You can see in this gif from the video shoot he has that arm wrapped, as one would when they just got a tattoo. You do not keep the wrapping on for long, so it was most likely on the way to the shoot.

We first saw the quotation marks on October 22nd and the “Far Away.” on October 29th (though it was rumored he had this one as early as October 22nd as well), but I think he definitely got them before then, so the 14th seems most likely given their schedule that week.

I believe the “Kiss You” video was shot October 18-19th in London, and Louis had all 3 tattoos and Harry had all 9 new ones in the video. So my best guess is October 14th for all of them, but definitely in the window of October 13-17. (Sidenote: Shooting these videos so close together makes their surprise at “Little Things” being the next single off the album a little clearer. Perhaps “Kiss You” was meant to be the next one, but plans were changed.) P.S. If Louis did get the stickman on the 15th and wore Harry’s shirt, Harry then wore it [the day after] to a radio interview..

…but they ~~~totally don’t live together anymore.

October 17, 2012:

Meta: 3 days after Louis began getting tattoos in earnest, Harry posted this photo of a couple’s tattoo to his instagram and [captioned it with:] “Siiiiiick.”

It is most likely that Harry found this picture [link no longer active] by googling “best couple tattoos”, where he found this slideshow [link no longer active] of 75 couple’s tattoo pictures. This photo is 62 of 75 and is found on the 5th page. The same day, during a radio interview, Louis indicated the “it is what it is” and butterfly tattoo combo may have already been in the works as he looked at Harry and pointed at [Zayn] when he says the phrase “It is what it is.” [and then gestured excitedly to Harry]. [replaced video source, starts at 7:12]

Louis made a joke during Haylor by saying “It is what it is”, which Harry found hilarious. (December 2012):

Maybe the butterfly/“it is what is is” combo was the first of many “couple’s tattoos” plans they’ve had, but the [one that was just executed last].

October 18, 2012*:

LDN (Harry) -TA [Harry’s 27th tattoo]

NY (Harry) - TA [Harry’s 28th tattoo]

LA (Harry) - TA [Harry’s 29th tattoo]

Home Made (Harry) - TA [Harry’s 30th tattoo]

Guitar (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 31st tattoo]

Can I stay? (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 32nd tattoo]

Might as well… (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 33rd tattoo]

Black heart (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 34th tattoo]

November 8, 2012:

Birds (Harry) - FN [Harry’s 35th tattoo]

–

continued in Part 3

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PART 3

”November 9, 2012:

4 Birds (Louis) - FN [Louis’ 5th tattoo]

Oops! (Louis) - FN [Louis’ 6th tattoo]

[The Mirror Article from the night Lou got the tattoos, Zayn was at the tattoo parlor with him]

December 6, 2012:

Camera (Louis) - NYC [Louis’ 7th tattoo]

Stereo heart (Louis) - NYC [Louis’ 8th tattoo]

December 19, 2012:

Ship (Harry) - FN [Harry’s 36th tattoo]

Compass (Louis) - FN [Louis’ 9th tattoo]

Meta: Technically, they got these tattoos about 18 hours apart, [at the same shop] – Harry very late the 18th/early morning of the 19th and Louis the night of the 19th. So I’m counting both as the 19th. I think we all know why these are important, and if not, please see this tag.

January 23, 2013:

Handshake (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 37th tattoo]

Butterfly (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 38th tattoo]

Large bird [swallow?] on arm (Louis) - LS [Louis’ 10th tattoo]

Paper plane (Louis) - LS [Louis’ 11th tattoo]

78 (Louis) - LS [Louis’ 12th tattoo]

Meta: I’m putting this here as we may have seen it in Japan through his shirt. Recently, Roxy and Shay figured out [link no longer active] he had it at the wax figure sitting [added video source], which was in January or February, based on Harry’s tattoos. I think it was January 23rd, because I think Liam did it based on style and it would have looked very fresh in the wax figure footage if he got it right before the tour started, which it does not. Therefore, I think it was the 23rd.

On January 23, Harry was outside Shangri-La tattoo parlour in London [where he got the butterfly] getting money from an ATM. This was posted to Twitter:

Then, on the 24th, we saw Louis’ bird for the first time:

This was just 2 days after they got back from Japan and just 2 weeks after the end of Haylor. I think it’s clear from Louis’ references to “it is what it is” as early as October, that the butterfly and “It is what it is” tattoos were planned for several months. But to start the process so soon after Haylor and the loveliness that was Japan seems especially poignant. They made it through the darkest months together. The tattoos almost seem like a brand.

February 19, 2013:

[link to tweet]

February 23, 2013*:

3 nails (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 39th tattoo]

Harry had the 3 nails by February 23 (the first day of the Take Me Home tour in the UK). I think he got it sometime during the week of the Brits and the first show in London.

February 25, 2013:

Cup of tea (Louis) - Skunx [Louis’ 13th tattoo]

Globe (Louis) - Skunx [Louis’ 14th tattoo]

Horseshoe (Louis) - Skunx [Louis’ 15th tattoo]

Meta: Louis and Liam got tattoos at Skunx in London before going to Glasgow. Louis posted the “cup of tea” to instagram that day, [captioned “You can’t go to bed …” (a nod to Little Things, a song he often serenades Harry with on stage)], but we saw the others at the show the next day.

March 23, 2013*:

“G” for Gemma on shoulder (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 40th tattoo]

“A” for Anne on shoulder (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 41st tattoo]

March 25, 2013:

The Rogue (Louis) - LS [Louis’ 16th tattoo]

[Meta: Louis’ first band was called The Rogue.]

“It is what it is” (Louis) - LS [Louis’ 17th tattoo]

April 24, 2013:

Stag (Louis) - AKA London (Michele Servadio) [Louis’ 18th tattoo]

Modified stereo heart (Louis) - AKA London (Michele Servadio) [Louis’ 19th tattoo]

5 lines (Louis) - AKA London (Michele Servadio) [Louis’ 20th tattoo]

Meta: AKA London is affiliated with Liam Sparkes. I’m not sure if he tattooed Louis there himself [meaning he might have had a guest spot there], or if someone else did his design for him, but the stag and modified stereo heart designs are Liam Sparkes’, I believe.

June 24, 2013:

Bomb (Louis) - DC [Louis’ 21st tattoo]

Lit match (Louis) - DC [Louis’ 22nd tattoo]

Spider web (Louis) - DC [Louis’ 23rd tattoo]

Rope/Infinity symbol (Louis) - DC [Louis’ 24th tattoo]

– continued in Part 4

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PART 4

”July 1, 2013:

Cross on hand (Harry) - NYC [Harry’s 42th tattoo]

August 9, 2013:

Tic-Tac-Toe board (Louis) - FN [Louis’ 25th tattoo]

Band with card suites (Louis) - FN [Louis’ 26th tattoo]

Bus 1 (Louis) - FN [Louis’ 27th tattoo]

Meta: Louis went to the tattoo parlor very late Friday night/very early Saturday morning (August 9/10). He went with Eleanor, Zayn, Liam, Liam’s mother and several other people. Zayn also has the “Bus 1” tattoo (as does their bus driver). It is interesting to note that the heart on the band may be turned toward Louis intentionally as the club and spade face outward. The diamond makes it difficult to tell.

September 10, 2013*:

Rose Tattoo (Harry) - Unknown L.A. [Harry’s 43rd tattoo]

October 11, 2013:

Pacman Tattoo (Louis) - Unknown Auckland, NZ [Louis’ 28th tattoo]

October 26, 2013*:

Spider web (Louis) - Unknown [Louis’ 29th tattoo]

January 11, 2014*:

Anchor (Harry) - Unknown L.A. [Harry’s 44th tattoo]

Meta: [Just with the 2 swallows he got on November 8, 2012, which covered up his “LOVE banner”, the anchor was Harry’s 2nd cover-up. It now covers his “I CAN’T CHANGE…” tattoo (his 5th, first seen on July 27, 2012), which many suspect he got in place of the tattered Leeds Festival 2011 bracelet. (He went to Leeds 2011 festival with Louis and still wore the festival bracelet until long after)]

The anchor is yet another tattoo from this website [link no longer active], which is nothing definitive but something to file away because wow, that’s a lot of tattoos coming from the same website that Harry & Louis both have.

Most anchor tattoos are done with a rope, but Harry’s doesn’t have a rope. Guess who has a rope… In the same mirrored position on the opposite wrist. Yes. This is real life.

To add insult to injury, the first time we saw Louis in England in 2014 was miraculously the same day we first saw Harry with the anchor tattoo (there is cause to believe Louis was in LA the previous week).

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, Louis showed up in England wearing a shirt with a giant anchor on it (much like when he wore the “it is what it is” shirt after he got that tattoo in 2013, but before we could tell what the tattoo said).

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHY.

And here is more meta on how the “It is what it is” and the butterfly were 2 designs from the same flash design sheet by Liam Sparkes:

January 16, 2014*:

Holy Bible/Book (Harry) - Unknown L.A. [Harry’s 45th tattoo]

[Meta: This is Harry’s 3rd cover up, covering his “Things I can’t”, which we had first seen on October 12, 2012. It’s interesting that the “can’t” was still left somewhat visible.]

February 18, 2014:

Anatomical heart (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 46th tattoo]

[Meta: It’s interesting to note that the heart is mirrored, as if it’s not his own heart, but the heart of someone he’s embracing/standing opposite him.]

Laurels (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 47th tattoo]

Meta: [This is Harry’s 4th cover up, covering up his “Might as well…” tattoo which we had seen first on October 18, 2012.]

I put the laurels here on the same day as the anatomical heart, because we know Harry was at Liam’s shop that day and got the heart. Liam recently posted this image on his instagram of laurels he did..

..and they are very similar to Harry’s design, as well. I think it’s most likely Harry got them this day, as well.

March 8, 2014:

Arrow (Louis) - FN [Louis’ 30th tattoo]

Meta: So a little over 2 weeks after Harry got the anatomical heart, Louis got an arrow. [Yes, again, this is real life. Now I go cry.]

Much like this concept, except spread over 2 people:

May 8, 2014:

Brasil! (Harry) - Unknown (Brazil) [Harry’s 48th tattoo]

August 15, 2014:

Skull & Crossbones (Louis) - East River Tattoo (NYC) [Louis’ 31st tattoo]

September 7, 2014*:

Smiley face on left thigh (Louis) - Unknown [Louis’ 32nd tattoo]

November 10, 2014:

Mermaid (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 49th tattoo]

“Meta: “In an interview with Hollywood Life, [Harry] revealed the inspiration behind this one: “I am a mermaid,” he said when asked about it. So there’s that.” (source) - Never change, Harold, never change lmao]

You Booze, You Lose & Liquor Bottle (Harry) - LS [Harry’s 50th tattoo]

November 25, 2014:

Dagger (Louis) - Bondi Ink [Louis 33rd tattoo]

[in case anyone ever doubted that he indeed got a d a g g e r

and once more, with feeling…

–

continued in Part 5

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PART 5

“A little over 2 weeks after the bullshit 2.0 tweets, Louis went and got the dagger tattoo.

Its significance cannot be overstated.

After the ARIA Awards, Louis (and Zayn) went to Bondi Ink in Sydney where Louis got 2 new tattoos.

The dagger is in the exact same place as Harry’s rose on the opposite arm. It is also from this website [link no longer active] and is something we have been talking about happening for over a year. [We had hoped for it happening and then Lou went and DID IT. 🥹 It was an indescribable feeling of relief, joy and strength.]

Smiley Face on wrist (Louis) - Bondi Ink [Louis’ 34th tattoo]

Given a Chance (Louis) - Bondi Ink [Louis’ 35th tattoo]

[Meta: The tattoo is Harry’s handwriting and here is why. Thank you, @skepticalarrie]

•

But first – 4 strays that escaped the original timeline back then:

October 2012

Screws on ankles (Harry) - [Harry’s 51st tattoo] (well, not really, because 2012, but I can’t change the reblogs so.. this will have to do in order to keep track)

Meta: We first heard about them October 12th, 2012 when Louis and Liam got matching screws. I think Zayn did them in a hotel room.” October 2013

Skeleton playing card (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 52nd tattoo]

Meta: There’s a theory that it matches Louis’ skull on his left arm, with the playing card symbols around his wrist; the colors and theme do match!

1957 and 1967 on his collarbones (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 53rd tattoo]

Meta: The birthyears of his biological (and divorced) parents, Desmond Styles and Anne Twist.

2013

Triangle ankle tattoo (Louis) - Possibly done in Dublin or in London at Skunx. [Louis’ 36th tattoo]

😌🏳️‍🌈

and back to the regular timeline!

April 17, 2015*

Tiger (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 54th tattoo]

Meta: Fans first saw the tiger tattoo in Australia on the On the Road Again Tour in February 2015, but it’s possible he’s had it since July 2014. Harry confirmed it was a tiger on the Radio 1 Breakfast interview filmed on 12 November 2015.

December 4, 2015

“Late, Late” (Harry) - Boo Boo Negrete (FN) [Harry’s 55th tattoo]

Meta: Harry got the words “late, late” on his arm by the heart after playing (and losing) a game on the James Corden show.

December 19, 2015

28 (Louis) - Nick Colella (Great Lakes Tattoo) [Louis’ 37th tattoo]

[Meta: Why the number 28 is extremely significant for Louis (and Harry). 💙💚]

Penguin tattoo on his ass (Louis) - Nick Colella (Great Lakes Tattoo) [Louis’ 38th tattoo]

Meta: “I have, I’m gonna speculate […] I’ve got between thirty and forty little tattoos. I don’t regret one of them, EXCEPT that penguin on my ass. It’s the least sexy thing in the world. Whenever, the times that I do actually take me trousers off, it’s not fucking sexy that shit, man.” - Louis, 2022 (source) and “Yes, it’s a pretty weird-looking penguin with headphones. It actually stands for isolation - but somehow it’s a pretty strange statement (laughs). But what don’t you do when you’re young? Now I have a tattoo on my butt - not particularly sexy, but a part of me forever.” - Louis, 2022 (source) and here’s a video of Louis from 2022 talking about the tattoo.

Beer Mug (Louis) - Nick Colella (Great Lakes Tattoo) [Louis’ 39th tattoo]

Meta: Louis was in Chicago to be seen with and near Danielle Campbell’s family. In the middle of a hilarious fan service tour of the greater Chicagoland area, Louis went to Great Lakes Tattoo near Noble Square and got “several” tattoos, according to the artist and fans he later met. […]

December 29, 2015*

Eagle (Harry) - Unknown UK [Harry’s 56th tattoo]

Meta: Sometime between 7 December 2015 and 23 December 2015, Harry got the eagle tattoo, covering the lone tattoo on his right arm: “Things I Can.“ The timing appears symbolic as they group heads into their much anticipated break, with many fans speculating they are leaving Syco Music and Modest! Management. Eagle tattoos are often symbols of freedom. [updated source]

2016

Half a heart (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 57th tattoo]

Meta: A matching tattoo with one of Kings of Leon.]

January 31, 2017*

Arlo & Jackson (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 58th & 59th tattoo]

Meta: Harry was seen with 2 new tattoos in LA, but a stalker fan from the UK knew what the “Arlo” tattoo said before anyone saw it, so it is presumed he got both tattoos sometime while in the UK in late 2016 or early 2017.

On April 20, 2017, Harry said on the Graham Norton show the “Jackson” tattoo was for his godson, [possibly Cal Aurand’s son, Jackson (source)]

March 25, 2017*

Bee (Harry) - Unknown (Harry’s 60th tattoo)

Meta: […] In a radio interview Harry did with the BBC 1 Breakfast Show on 7 April 2017, Harry was asked about the tattoo but declined to comment, instead deflecting to his “Jackson” tattoo. […]

FURTHERMORE, this is a guy who has a “thigh-ger” tattoo (tiger on his thigh) and a butterfly on his stomach and “big” on his big toe and he just got a bee on his ARM, at essentially the same time Steve Aoki referred to Louis’ dedicated fans as an “army of bees.” […]” •

[bulletprooflarry’s 💖 original timeline ends here. I will add the rest of the recent tattoos:]

April 2017*

R on his arm (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 61st tattoo]

Meta: I could not find a source in which Harry confirmed it, but it could be an R for his step-father Robin (and who unfortunately passed away in June 2017). Take this with a grain of salt though, please.

11 May 2017*

Cross with B on chest (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 62nd tattoo]

24 Jul 2017

E on left hand, near thumb (Louis) - Unknown [Louis’ 40th tattoo]

Meta: Tabloids liked to report that he got it for (his long-time beard) El, but it’s been theorised to be the companion tattoo to Harry’s cross tattoo which can be read as a LT in an upside down cross format. It’s in the same spot Lou got the tattoo in. The E could stand for Harry’s middle name, Edward.

27 Jul 2018

X on arm (Louis) - Robbie Williams [Louis’ 41st tattoo] “This is made quite bumbling and looks terrible. I tattooed him in return and that looks quite good. But it’s just a nice memory.“ - Louis, 2022 (source)

2019

RG (Louis) - Richard G. [Louis’ 42nd tattoo]

Meta: ”Richard’s Bucket List Official Video” was released on 24 April 2019. in this video Louis helps a man named Richard who lost his wife to Alzheimer’s disease in 2016 (the same year Louis lost his mum to Leukemia) to fulfil items on his bucket list: fly a helicopter, drive a race car, give Louis a tattoo, go on a rollercoaster and sing in front of a live audience.“ (source)

Palm Tree (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 63rd tattoo]

Meta: a matching tattoo with Gemma and perhaps also Lottie, too. (thank you, @twopoppies!)

Colazione on his thigh (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 64th tattoo]

Meta: “Breakfast” in Italian. Theories include that it’s the name of a cat that belongs to a hotel in the town of Civita, where he owns a home.

April 2019

Mary (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 65th tattoo]

Meta: “Believed to be for his nan when she passed (but also a euphemism for a gay man. Coupled with the Eagle tattoo, it’s a possibility it refers to both)”

Oui, Non, Si, No on both knees (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 66th tattoo]

Meta: He tweeted some of these things before getting them tattooed about 6 years later.

14/15 March 2022

“Odds” on right arm (Louis) - Hollywood Stars Tattoo, LA [Louis’ 43rd tattoo]

Meta: All of Louis’ band members got it after the 2022 tour, in various spots on their bodies. (source 1, source 2 from 15 March, source 3 from 14 March) (Lou’s security guard, JD, got a melted smiley face instead.)

5 April 2023

Symbols on fingers on right hand (Louis) - The London Social, London, CertifiedLetterBoy (Louis’ 44th tattoo)

continued in Part 6

hoovesandfloorpaws

PART 6

Additionally, here is a cool theory of those 4 symbols being tied to the lyrics of Louis’ songs All This Time and Holding On To Heartache.

May 2022*

“Olivia” on right upper thigh (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 67th tattoo]

Meta: Olivia is one of the two labrador pups (the black one) belonging to friends of Harry, the owners of a hotel in Civita, Italy - a town in which Harry also owns a home. (Colazione is their cat’s name. We saw the “Colazione” tattoo first on 20 May 2019 at Malibu Beach.) We only consciously saw “Olivia” 4 years later, on 30 July 2023, but he’s had that tattoo long since before we ever even saw it and it’s so high up on his thigh, that it’s easy to not be seen. After the summer of 2023, we realized the tattoo had already been visible in Harry’s Daylight music video, which was shot in May 2022. On 30 July 2023, it was obvious that Harry wanted it to be seen, with the way that right swim short leg was hiked up & tucked under the waistband the entire time. (sorry, DailyMail jumpscare) Harry usually never wears his swim shorts (or jogging shorts, for that matter) that way, no matter how long or short the shorts themselves are. (the wretched Holivia stunt had already on 18 Nov 2022 and the thought that OW 100% thought Harry had gotten that tattoo for her is absolutely hilarious. [no lbr, absolutely nothing about that stunt was funny. It was horrible.] The press certainly did, too, and Harry obviously never commented on it.)

18 November 2023

Anarchy sign on right middle finger (Louis) - Ryan Rogers aka. Hellhabits* (Birmingham, Resorts World Arena backstage) [Louis’ 45th tattoo]

“We go on go!” on right arm (Louis) - Ryan Rogers aka. Hellhabits* (Birmingham, Resorts World Arena backstage) [Louis’ 46th tattoo]

Meta: Oli, Michael and Louis all got tattoos backstage before/after the show (video here). Not sure if they all got that phrase, but it does sound like something you’d say before going on stage.

28 August 2024*

“Ortensia” on right upper thigh (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 68th tattoo]

Meta: Ortensia (which we are 99% sure this says) was the finishing addition in this set of names of the 3 pets belonging to friends of Harry, the owners of a hotel in Civita, Italy - a town in which Harry also owns a home. Colazione, the cat. Olivia, the black labrador and Ortensia, the beige labrador. (we saw the tattoo first in August 2024, but could only finally make out what it says when Harry ran the Marathon in Tokyo on 1 March 2025.) We cannot say for sure why Harry got the names tattooed in that order, but there are a few theories involving the Holivia stunt. Or perhaps Harry had his very own unique reasoning for it that had to do with the pets themselves. (◠‿◠✿)

5 August 2025 (when we first heard about it)

“Slinky” on right upper arm (Harry) - Unknown, Rome [Harry’s 69th tattoo]

Meta: We saw this tattoo for the first time on 13 September 2025 while H was in Rome, Italy. On 5 August 2025 we had already heard about Harry getting that tattoo in Rome, Italy from someone whose friend had met Harry at/near the tattoo shop. Theories for the meaning of the tattoo range from it potentially being a Toy Story-themed tattoo for Liam to it possibly being the nickname of Harry’s niece.

20 January 2026*

Minister Church of St. George in Doncaster on back of left hand (Louis) - Unknown [Louis’ 47th tattoo]

Meta: The tattoo is his first proper cover-up and covers his only stunt tattoo, the ‘E’ he got in July 2017. We first saw the tattoo during Louis’ interview with Zane Lowe, which Louis tweeted about on 20 Jan 2026. At his BBC Radio 1 interview, which was teased on 19 Jan 2026 (and the MTV Brasil one, which was filmed on or before 16 Jan 2026 [he wore that hoodie for a couple of different interviews that day]), he didn’t have the new tattoo, yet.

We don’t know exactly when the BBC Radio 1 interview was recorded, but since it still looked very dark (= fresh + lotioned) in the Zane Lowe clips, I’d wager Louis got it between 16 and 19 Jan 2026. The first proper pictures we got of the tattoo was when Louis was on the Jimmy Fallon show on 22 Jan 2026. At an album signing on 25 Jan 2026, Louis confirmed to fan that it was indeed the church in Doncaster, which we had already suspected it was, and this fan, who at a signing on 27 Jan 2026 had asked him which tattoo had hurt worse, the new one on the hand or his chest, “Louis said his Palaces tattoo hurt, but his It Is What It Is was his most painful!”. It needs to be said that Louis had stated that his song Palaces was about ‘home’ and 'Doncaster’. And since he’s mentioned a couple of times that his '28’ tattoo on the same hand stands for 'home’ (that’s obviously the only thing he can publicly say about that tattoo) and 'Doncaster’, it was the logical conclusion that it was that very church. So far, discussed meanings of the tattoo range from “it’s a church of burnt romances” (from his 🏳️‍🌈 anthem Only The Brave) to the particular tattooed church being connected to Harry and him. (also LOL)

18 February 2026*

LET IT RIP on left upper arm (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 70th tattoo]

Meta: we first saw the tattoo in Harry’s Dance No More music video (at 2:09), which according to this receipt, was shot on or around 18 February 2026, and then saw it much clearer on Night 5 and 8 of his Amsterdam residency on 23 May and 29 May 2026. At his Runner’s World photoshoot (magazine shoot was released on 3 March 2026), he definitely didn’t have the tattoo, yet, but afaik, we don’t know when that shoot took place. Obviously before 18 Feb, though. The wonderful @voxina shared great thoughts about the possible meaning of the tattoo here, with additional thoughts of connections by Gina @twopoppies. The short version is that “Let it rip” is an iconic phrase from the hit show The Bear – Let It Rip: Trauma, Control, and Complex PTSD in The Bear: “'Let it rip’ is a sign for him to loosen his grip on fear and control and accept his pain in order to heal.” “Funny” coincidence: when we first properly saw the tattoo on 23 May and started posting about it on 24 May, wondering what the tattoo says, on 25 May Louis went to a bar called “The Bear” with his stunt partner, who posted about it. (pap pics here) Btw, to me the tattoo looks like it could’ve either been handpoked (like a couple of Harry’s early years tattoos are) or was done with a very fineline needle and didn’t heal well, like the palm tree. It’s only a few months old and is already barely visible anymore. He might have gotten the LET IT RIP tattoo at the same time as his next one:

3 March 2026*

2nd cross (left one) with “B”(?) on right side of chest (Harry) - Unknown [Harry’s 71st tattoo]

Meta: we first saw this tiny new tattoo in the pictures of Harry’s photoshoot for Runner’s World magazine. The new cross is to the left of the pre-existing cross with the letter “B” on Harry’s right side of his chest. That’s the side he has the 1957 (his father Des’ birth year) tattooed on his shoulders. Voxina shared very interesting thoughts and I, too, think that it could stand for “…Beryl German, Des’ mother. So I think the fourth and new cross could be another ‘B,’ in memory of his […] paternal grandmother. It is also interesting that just recently, during [the Royal Court] interview with Brittany Broski, Harry mentioned his grandmother’s funeral.”

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[ ❗️last updated: 1 June 2026]

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My (Paz’) own thoughts: I do find it deeply significant that as soon as the hiatus (aka: a potential way into freedom) started, Harry and Louis -compared to the time during the band- slowed down to an almost glacier pace when it comes to getting tattoos. Harry got 79% of all his 71 tattoos within almost 4 years in the band. Louis even got 83% of all his 47 tattoos within 3 years in the band. And then he got zero tattoos for 2 years into the hiatus.*

Harry got 56 tattoos between early 2012 and the end of 2015. He got 15 tattoos within the next almost 11 years; until today, June 2026.*

Louis got 39 tattoos between late 2012 and the end of 2015. He got 8 tattoos within the next almost 11 years; until today, June 2026.*

It clearly shows what a beautiful and powerful way to express themselves to the world it was for them; as individuals, but also deeply bonded and visually belonging together. A quiet, visual rebellion; their skin constantly speaking the words they couldn’t say.

On 28 Feb 2025, Louis acknowledged his “It Is What It Is” and Stag tattoo as his favorite tattoos and said the 28 on his fingers “reminds him of home”.

Cover Ups: (explanation: a cover-up is what I consider a wholly different tattoo covering up a former other tattoo. Filling in and/or enlarging a tattoo with the same design, is what I consider a mere tattoo modification.) Louis: it’s noteworthy that until December 2025, Louis had not covered up any tattoo of his and had stated in 2022 that he doesn’t regret any of them, except for the penguin on his ass. And not even that one he’s gotten covered up or removed*. In April 2013, the same day he got his stag, he modified 1 of his tattoos, much like Harry getting his star filled in, Louis had his stereo heart, which he’d gotten in Dec 2012, enlarged and filled in. Then, in Jan 2026 we saw he had gotten his first cover-up: he covered his only stunt tattoo, the 'E’ on his left hand, with a realistic tattoo of the Minister Church of St. George in Doncaster. (The 2nd (and final) stunt with El had ended in 2022 already.) Harry covered up 5 of his tattoos and it’s most important which ones and from what year - (here is a post with pictures) All 5 of the tattoos Harry had covered up were from 2012 - the year during which Louis and him were fully shoved into an iron closet. All 5 tattoos were written phrases that could possibly be connected to his sexuality, closeting, and relationship with Louis. Summary: 1) the “LOVE banner” – covered with 2 swallows that resemble Lou & him 2) “I can’t change…” – covered with an anchor, matching Louis’ pre-existing rope 3) “Might as well…” – covered with laurels; laurels often symbolize victory 4) “Things I can’t” – covered by a Holy Bible (I Can’t: Holy Bible?) 5) “Things I can” – covered by an Eagle (I Can: Freedom?)] Since the start of the hiatus in 2015, Harry has not covered up a single tattoo in over 10 years.

(*that we know of/as far as we know) Harry & Louis have at least 6 beautifully obvious matching tattoos: Oops + Hi Rope + Anchor Ship + Compass Butterfly + It Is What It Is Anatomical Heart + Arrow Rose + Dagger

There’s also theories about other matching tattoos, such as: 3 (Horseshoe) Nails + Horseshoe Red/black Skull + red/black Playing Card (and a theory of Harry, Gemma, and Lottie all having gotten the palm tree tattoo together)

Let’s see if this particular list will grow again someday (◡‿◡✿) • Additional resources: My tattoos tag @bulletprooflarry’s timelines (thank you, darling, for everything) Gina’s Harry’s Tattoos tag and Louis’ Tattoos tag (thank you, @twopoppies) Daisie’s Tattoos tag (thank you, @daisiesonafield-blog) Allie’s Tattoos tag (thank you, @skepticalarrie)

voxina

Apple, you say?

Glenne Christiaansen Azoff (Jeff's wife) works for Apple

Cameron Azoff (Jeff's brother) works for Apple

And of course patriarch Irving Azoff too.

He is "golf buddy" with Eddy Cue, who is Apple's senior vice president of Services and Health, reporting to CEO Tim Cook. He oversees the full range of Apple’s services, including Apple Music, Apple News, Apple Podcasts, the Apple TV app, and Apple TV, as well as Apple Pay, Apple Card, Maps, Apple Ads, iCloud services, and Apple’s productivity and creativity apps. [x]

Remember when last year Page Six reported that Harry was in negotiations for a residency at the Sphere, which has already hosted U2 and the Eagles among others (both bands managed by Irving Azoff), but a rep for Sphere says Harry's not happening, telling in a statement, “To set the record straight, there has [sic] never been plans for Harry Styles to perform at Sphere”?

Mmm interesting. But let's get back to Azoff and Cue.

Azoff and Cue quickly discovered they were even better friends than business associates. Their families became close, taking trips to a house they bought together at Gozzer Ranch Golf and Lake Club in Idaho. All young adults now, the three Cue children love golf, and the Azoff boys are obsessed. Jeffrey Azoff qualified for the 2023 U.S. Mid-Amateur and has won multiple club championships at Riviera. His younger brother, Cameron, is also an accomplished amateur player.

Both families also have houses at the Madison Club, a posh Discovery Land property in the Coachella Valley where Adele lives around the corner from several Kardashians. Despite being one of the most exclusive communities in the area, the club was not immune to the post-COVID golf boom. One cool desert morning in 2021, the two men stood horrified watching multiple groups hack through the first hole. Cue cracked to Azoff that they should just build their own place. [x]

Azoff and Cue at Ladera Golf Club

And how can we forget Lenny.

There’s nothing less surprising when it comes to connections in the world of pr & stunts. And I’m not saying this is 100% the reason behind this messy pr circus, but it’s interesting how certain coincidences keep repeating themselves again and again with almost no difference. It happens so often that at a certain point they stop being such and people should start opening their eyes.

twopoppies

Hey, hope you don’t mind me asking but who is Carla and this new group of friends that Harry keeps referring to?

Do we like them? Why are they important?

I keep reading mixed things and getting very confused and I trust your opinion

Thanks :)

Hi love. Carla is the person who inspired Carla’s song. Her partner is Chloe Caillet, a dj who said the line “DJs don’t dance anymore” that Harry made into Dance No More. There’s a group of people who he seemed to hang out with who seem to all have money to travel around the world and party. One of them is a guy who owns a pink yacht. One of them is a woman, Steph Simon, who Harry has been seen a lot with.

Some of them seem to know Harry’s set designer, Patience Harding. Pauli seems to know some of them. They seem to also know Zoe, but it’s unclear whether they knew her before or she met them through Harry. I’ve seen people say both things.

They seem to have been instrumental in getting Harry out of his head/house and giving him a new perspective on things that led to this album. It’s hard to say if that’s actually true, or if it’s a story that’s been exaggerated to become narrative for this album

I don’t know what to tell you about them. To me, they all just give off a vibe of being users. I have no proof of anything other than a feeling that these aren’t people I’d want around a person I care about. But I’m trying to trust that Harry is a grown man with a good sense of who to let into his life.

Here are the tags I have on them (sorry there are so many. They were a confusing group and I need to consolidate):

PINK YACHT CREW / IBIZA CREW

PINK YACHT PARTY / HARRY’S YACHT PARTY

STEPH SIMON / STEPHANIE SIMON

HARRY IN IBIZA

CHLOE CAILLET

LEON KIRCHOFF

RAMEET CHAWLA (tech billionaire who owns the pink yacht)

CARLA’S SONG (that has stuff about the song and the person)

dailytomlinson

Louis on stage at Tecate Emblema photographed by Karen Juarez

twopoppies

And Louis has just followed Mo Farah on IG 🤭

https://x.com/thehlworld/status/2056162397027451276

Shut. Up. THEY ARE UNHINGED. Mo Farah is a marathon runner, for anyone who didn’t know. And the title of his children’s book is just… 🤪

twopoppies

Not that i doubt H wanted to come back. But i really do wonder if somehow someway Irving and or Rob said they’d remove the block on L’s career if H would get back on stage, and attempt to have the top grossing tour. Looking back at the interview Irving did about H being the top of the top makes me wonder what strings were pulled. Because all of a sudden L was not only back on radio but getting real recognition and even playing BBC1 big weekend. And no offense to all the straight shippers but it wasn’t Zebra who made that happen, she has no pull in that world. L deserves all the recognition in the world but he got royally f’d with his solo career, so i wonder if those strings were pulled and that’s what H’s team is holding over his head, they just end L’s career. Even if i wasn’t a Larry, harry would NEVER want to end L’s career for his own personal gain.

That’s my theory. I think Harry has traded some things in order to have some of Louis’ chains removed. Maybe Zoe was one of those things. I think the ticket prices were part of the deal. Who knows?

But something changed so that Louis suddenly had proper promo and was getting on the radio and got a chance to do BBC Live Lounge, got on Rolling Stone UK, got an interview with Zane Lowe, etc etc. He was blocked from all of that before.

I’m not saying he didn’t have it because he couldn’t get it on his own. But it seems pretty clear he was very purposely blocked and blacklisted. No matter how good he might be, he wasn’t going to get anywhere until the gatekeepers decided to open the gate.

I think both Harry and Louis would throw themselves in front of a bus if it meant helping the other.

I just hope they can both come out on the other side as unscathed as possible.

fookingsweetbubble

«Taste back» KATTDO ( my thoughts) Part 1

"Taste Back" or "The Lovers' Bird-Tongue: Why Can We Still Hear Each Other in the Silence?"

A day in the life of two people who tried to call it quits but couldn't quite make it stick.

The call that changed everything.

To me, this song feels like the story of an encounter between two "exes" who weren't doing so well without each other. It’s a non-linear narrative, blending snapshots of their meeting the night before with the moments they spent together afterwards.Harry sings: “Not quite 'here we go again.' Always been a consequence when you call me baby. You on white, so sweet and sour.”Here, "white" likely refers to the bedsheets, making the "consequence" (their intimacy) feel even more immediate. It adds an intimate layer to the phrase "sweet and sour" (alluring yet unbearable): he adores this person, yet he knows how complicated everything is between them.“Always been a consequence”: When his partner calls him "baby," it’s more than just a word—it’s a trigger. In this context, the "consequence" is the fact that they’ve ended up in bed together once again.“Not quite here we go again”: This is an admission that things have shifted. They aren't just a couple caught in a cycle of fighting and making up anymore; they are simply two people who can't stop gravitating toward one another.It all started with a call and a meeting over drinks, where Harry watched his partner, noticing the smallest changes alongside those painfully familiar traits. Then came that one "baby," leading to everything that followed: “You called me back, talk in tongues, no common sense. Like two old friends. You drinking again, it's all you.”

The Core Questions: European-Style Armor, Liquid Courage, and the Ultimatum of Maturity.

Harry’s question, “Handling it?”, shifts the song from a simple “relationship talk” into a story of mutual vulnerability, where both characters are on the edge.The Mirroring of Pain: When he asks “Handling it?”, it’s not out of arrogance. It’s an attempt to find an answer to the very question that haunts him. If his partner is managing, then there’s a way out. If not, it means they are both “drowning” in equal measure.The Irony of “European Style”: His remark about his partner dealing with things “the European way” (through wine and a facade of calm) sounds like a bitter confession: “You’re pretending everything is under control, but I can see right through it.”Helplessness Before “Baby”: He simply cannot withstand this person’s influence. One word is all it takes for all his boundaries to crumble.In this context, the question “Did you get your taste back?” sounds like Harry’s hope for a true return, rather than just an attempt to plug the hole in one's soul with a brief encounter (“just need a little love”).It’s like a dialogue between two people who can’t quite "carry the weight" of their separation, and the bed becomes their only sanctuary where they can finally stop pretending.

Gravitational Pull, Bird-Tongues, and Vortices.

Their meeting isn't accidental; it’s a moment of pure attraction between two people who tried to end things but failed because the pull is too strong. Even after a long separation, when they are together, they slip back into their "bird-tongue" — a private language where they recognize the tiniest details in one another, and the world begins to spin around them.If you listen closely to the music, it starts off timid, like butterflies in your stomach. But as the song progresses, it spirals upward, never returning to the same point. Just like their relationship, it moves in circles but on a new level: everything feels familiar, yet different — deeper and more painful. The repetitive riffs and the driving rhythm of the chorus create a "vortex" effect. The characters are sucked into intimacy against all logic. It’s not a choice; it’s an inevitability.“No common sense”: When they are near each other, the laws of physics and logic simply shut down.Pastries and Friends: These are the most dangerous things during a breakup. You can forget the big arguments, but it’s impossible to forget the way someone eats their favorite croissant.White: Not just a color, but a “blank slate” they try to rewrite every night, knowing full well it will be crumpled up again by morning.They are like planets knocked off their orbits — drawn to each other by a gravity they simply cannot control.

neverforpickles

this expression here, personally, it looks like he’s tentative but definitely very defiant. he’s challenging people’s perceptions of him, about him, and his art. he’s saying “do you see it now?” this is his most lewd, very sexual music video ever so far, and it deconstructs this rigid box people have put him in regarding his sexuality and gender. he’s telling us that there are may layers about him, and most often than not, for others, it’s uncomfortable to see and accept. he’s forcing people to sit with that discomfort instead of softening it for them. there’s almost this sense that he knows exactly how people will react, and he leans into it anyway. not for shock value alone, but because he wants complete control over how he’s perceived for once. the expression feels aware, almost confrontational, like he’s exposing something intentionally and waiting to see who flinches first. like he understands that people consume him through assumptions first before they ever try to understand him as a person or an artist. and this video completely tears through that. every visual feels intentional, excessive on purpose, almost theatrical in the way it refuses subtlety. he’s exaggerating the things people whisper about him until they can no longer look away from it. and in doing that, he reclaims it. there’s power in how unapologetic it is, because he’s not asking to be understood or accepted anymore. he’s presenting himself exactly as he wants to be seen, even if it unsettles people, even if it ruins the version of him they felt comfortable holding onto.

it also directly confronts the people who constantly accuse him of queerbaiting, because this doesn’t feel like someone playing with ambiguity for attention anymore. it’s too deliberate, too explicit, too confrontational to sit comfortably in that accusation. he’s taking all these projections people have thrown onto him for years and pushing them to an extreme, almost asking what exactly people wanted from him in the first place. because when he was subtle, people called it manipulation. now that he’s excessive and undeniable, people still try to police it. and i think that’s part of what makes this expression feel so defiant. he’s exposing how conditional people’s acceptance really is when it comes to sexuality, gender expression, and masculinity, especially from someone they already built such rigid expectations around.

this mv especially feels like harry finally weaponizing the conversation people have had about him for years instead of trying to carefully navigate around it. the accusations of queerbaiting have followed him through almost every era of his career, largely because people wanted him to either explicitly define himself or completely stop engaging with femininity, ambiguity, and queer aesthetics altogether. but “dance no more” feels like him rejecting that pressure entirely. he’s not trying to make himself digestible here. if anything, the video almost mocks the idea that people are owed a neat explanation about his identity in exchange for consuming his art.

and that’s why the expression matters so much. he doesn’t look ashamed or apologetic. he looks fully aware of the discomfort he’s creating. almost like he’s staring directly at the audience that spent years dissecting his mannerisms, his clothes, his relationships, his body language, trying to decide what parts of him were “real” enough to justify their support. the defiance comes from the fact that he refuses to simplify himself for any side of that conversation. instead, he amplifies everything people criticized him for until it becomes impossible to separate the performance from the person anymore.

and that’s my two cents.

twopoppies

Hey Gina!

I saw a pretty disappointing album analysis of KISSCO from a fan I used to respect. He said the album was Harry saying to Louis “I’m done with you”. I was wondering what your thoughts were on this interpretation? Personally, I didn’t see any of those themes in the album. I haven’t gone looking for analysis videos online to not taint my experience, this one just showed up on my fyp. I love this album so much and am gutted to be questioning the motivations in what I saw as a beautiful display of confidence. I don’t know, this just upset me and has me questioning, maybe just looking for reassurance.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTkcWJPby/

Oh, I'm sorry to people who like this creator, but I stopped listening to their theories and analysis of anything to do with Harry and Louis a long time ago. I just don't like their takes on things.

And wow. IMO their analysis of KATTDO is honestly SO off-base, even if you don't believe in Larry. Like? Did they even listen? Did they watch any of the interviews? Do they not remember that so often Harry writes autobiographical songs using the "You" in the song to mean him?

Also, the brief, bored, and dismissive way of talking about the songs was not for me. Thank you for reminding me why I unfollowed them so long ago.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and obviously, none of us really know what Harry is talking about in his songs. But while I agree with them that Taste Back is talking about an on-again, off-again relationship, I believe he's writing about a period of time in the past. Not any time recently. When he sings about wasted time, waiting, being scared -- he's talking mostly about himself. Not about Louis. And POP is not in the least about a "bisexual threesome." I nearly had to shut off the video when they said that.

I've said before that I think KATTDO and HDWGH are albums that chronicle the course of their relationship over the past 6-10 years.

I do not think that Harry has finally gotten away from Louis and left that doomed relationship in the dust. Personally, I think what's changed is that they're both on the same page about their future, and while there are still hurdles to overcome, the future looks bright.

twopoppies

Hey Gina!

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTkcWJPby/

Oh, I'm sorry to people who like this creator, but I stopped listening to their theories and analysis of anything to do with Harry and Louis a long time ago. I just don't like their takes on things.

Also, the brief, bored, and dismissive way of talking about the songs was not for me. Thank you for reminding me why I unfollowed them so long ago.

I've said before that I think KATTDO and HDWGH are albums that chronicle the course of their relationship over the past 6-10 years.

twopoppies

Oh. My god. Oh my god. OH MY GOD.

https://x.com/larrytsjwaffle/status/2053339036178358416?s=20

I don't think it's the same model of car... But it does look similar. 🤔

voxina

These are three completely different car models. When the first promotional photos came out, some of us did some research to determine which car was on the album cover, and after initial doubts about whether it was a Ford Anglia or a Simca Aronde, we can safely say it's the latter.

But guess which vehicle Louis used at "How Did I Get Here? The Experience," the immersive event at Outernet? Yep, a Ford Anglia.

Lastly, the car that appears in My Policeman is a 1958 Austin A40 MkI Farina.

twopoppies

Hi Gina, I also disagree that KATTDO is an album about a breakup. Firstly, because the album's main message, conveyed in the single "Apperture," is "we belong together, it's finally appearing, it's only love." Speaking of "taste back," it sounds more like a willingness to give the relationship another chance, followed by the difficult conversation we see in "coming up roses."

Agreed.

twopoppies

https://www.tumblr.com/twopoppies/816256306846547968/hey-gina-i-saw-a-pretty-disappointing-album

To me personally many things that happened wouldn’t make sense if they actually are completely done with each other and their albums are basically goodbyes to each other. ( read that somewhere).

But why would Harry have that 28 on his album cover? To say goodbye to that number? Because he is pitty and wants to show his new romances he is done with his once true love?

Or why would he choose a location for his dnm mv with green blue pole abd that door? Because he couldn’t find another location?

Like I get when people say blue and green are just two colors but both of them KNOW what they represent. They are not living under a rock. Why would Harry do this when he is finally free from Louis?

And there is more but I don’t want to right an essay but felt like I wanted to react to this.

Honestly, given the amount of larrying the two of them have been doing over the last year especially, I don’t understand people thinking they broke up.

twopoppies

https://www.tumblr.com/twopoppies/816256306846547968/hey-gina-i-saw-a-pretty-disappointing-album

To me personally many things that happened wouldn’t make sense if they actually are completely done with each other and their albums are basically goodbyes to each other. ( read that somewhere).

But why would Harry have that 28 on his album cover? To say goodbye to that number? Because he is pitty and wants to show his new romances he is done with his once true love?

Or why would he choose a location for his dnm mv with green blue pole abd that door? Because he couldn’t find another location?

Like I get when people say blue and green are just two colors but both of them KNOW what they represent. They are not living under a rock. Why would Harry do this when he is finally free from Louis?

And there is more but I don’t want to right an essay but felt like I wanted to react to this.

Honestly, given the amount of larrying the two of them have been doing over the last year especially, I don’t understand people thinking they broke up.

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