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@livi-typology
Enneagram: Upbringing
In childhood, they lacked a sense of…
Presence (1, 8, 9) embodiment, self, autonomy, willpower
Identity (2, 3, 4) worth, desirability, self-image, esteem
Stability (5, 6, 7) confidence, predictability, trust, resourcefulness
They had issues related to their need for…
Protection (1, 2, 6) father/fatherly figures, clarity, power, authority
Nourishment (3, 7, 8) mother/motherly figures, growth, nurture, support
Belonging (4, 5, 9) family/friends, communication, inclusion, culture
In relationship to these experiences, they felt…
Disconnected (1, 4, 7) interference, dissatisfied, empty, frustration
Ambivalent (2, 5, 8) reluctance, abnegation, denial, rejection
Connected (3, 6, 9) dependence, subordinate, reliant, attachment
In order to handle this conflict, they learned to…
Detach (1, 3, 5) separate, rationalize, objectify, structure
Reframe (2, 7, 9) avoid, distract, enrich, minimize
Express (4, 6, 8) react, vent, embrace, release
Don't call me out like this - 5w4
Also where did you find out about this because it seems interesting? MBTI and enneagram is one of my special interests.
What is the difference between an ISFJ 641 and an ISFJ 621?
1, 2, and 6 are all in the super-ego triad, ruled by "should" (I "should" -- as if not doing whatever your inner voice is telling you to do would be letting down an invisible higher power and generating guilt). If you have all three, your life is run by duty and obligation and that you owe people your time, energy, and compassion.
4 is a hexad type that doesn't think in terms of "I should" so much as "I feel, I want, I pursue." It's also a frustration type along with 1, which means double-frustration, and double-reactivity due to 6 also being a reactive type. Reactive types "overreact" in tandem with each other, so the 4-6 becomes double "upset" about things. 4 brings in an elitist streak that goes with the judgmental nature of 1 and creates a feeling that nothing is ever quite up to my high standards or expectations.
reblog if your blog is a safe place for low empathy people i want to see how many people im safe interreacting with :]
Reblog if you think asexuality is a legitimate sexuality.
I’m trying to prove something.
Reblog if your blog is a safe place for asexuals.
plz if you want to approach the mbti world don't do the 16personalities test, it's not accurate since it doesn't type according to cognitive functions; there are loads of sites far more precise and useful, I'll link the most reliable below:
This free personality test will allow you to obtain your scores on the eight Jungian functions as developed by Jung, Myers, Briggs, von Fran
This is a good start for beginners
Sakinorva
A Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) based cognitive function test centered around the work of Harold Grant, Alan Brownsword, Myers & Jung,
This one was really helpful and made me discover cognitive functions, it's a bit long but it's worth it
Key 2 Cognition
I found the questions hard to understand but I guess it's because I'm not a native English speaker but give it a try
Want to better understand who you are? Unlike other Myers-Briggs tests, this one goes way beyond the usual 4 letters to explore the deeper c
This one made me reflect on myself idk why maybe it's the comparison between two choises and overall pretty easy to complete; it also provides examples to make you understand the questions better
Mistype investigator
Free and accurate Cognitive Functions Test and Jungian typology articles provided by mistype.investigator.
This is also long and you have to concentrate quite a bit but if you give honest answers it can be precise and valid, it also provides a final ranking with your most likely mbti type to your most unlikely one
No test is 100% accurate so I suggest to try studying congnitive functions so you can understand yourself on a deeper level
(If you find that your 16personalities result is the same as your fuction type...yes, it may happen)
Cognitive functions explained in simple terms. You don't need to be a genius to understand this. It is the basis for personality type and w
If you feel unsure or need further explanations feel free to ask for more infos
breakdown of how 16personalities scores its test and why it is not a valid mbti test
it’s very damaging that 16personalities is the first result for a mbti test when the reality is you can’t quantify cognitive functions like that.
simply put, 16personalities is actually the Big Five / Global 5 with a coat of paint using the mbti letter dichotomy despite the fact it does not use any jungian concepts whatsoever. the result you’re getting is that of the Big 5. see for yourself.
so lets talk about the Big 5 and what it measures. i’m sure you’ve heard of it.
background of Big 5
the Big 5 model by itself is free-floating since you’re only getting percentages for each of the five elements. the Global 5 (aka SLOAN) is a way for you to give a name those results, in letters. there is no “SLOAN” test since it’s just a naming system that uses the results from the Big 5.
it’s explained here but i’ll explain it in simpler terms:
Reserved or Social = Big 5 Extraversion score
Calm or Limbic = Big 5 Neuroticism score
Unstructured or Organized = Big 5 Conscientiousness score
Egocentric or Accomodating = Big 5 Agreeableness score
Noncurious or Inquitisive = Big 5 Openness to Experience score
it’s a sliding scale where 50% marks the tipping point between which letter you use. the notation also changes depending on the strength of each element.
Uppercase letter = Strong tendency
Lowercase letter = Mild tendency
x = In between, on average
|?| = Your strongest element
you need to think of these results as like a statistical distribution. 50% is the average, where going closer to 0% or 100% is more extreme on either end.
there’s no hard rule for what percentile encompasses “strong”, “mild”, and “average”, but personally i’d divide it like such:
0–24 or 76–100 percentile would be strong tendency, use uppercase letter.
25–40 or 60–75 percentile would be mild tendency, use lowercase letter.
41–59 percentile would be average tendency, use “x”.
let’s use my results as an example.
on the IPIP-300 my Big Five dimensions were:
Extraversion - 15th percentile
Agreeableness - 78th percentile
Concientiousness - 64th percentile
Neuroticism - 16th percentile
Openness - 60th percentile
Extraversion is strongly low (15th percentile), so i would use uppercase R for Reserved. it is also my strongest element in either direction so i will put vertical bars around it: |R|
Neuroticism is also strongly low (16th percentile), so i would use uppercase C for Calm: |R|C
Conscientiousness is mildly high (64th percentile), so i would use lowercase O for Organized: |R|Co
Agreeableness is strongly high (78th percentile), so i would use uppercase A for Accomodating: |R|CoA
Openness to Experience is mildly high (60th percentile), so i would use lowercase I for Inquitisive: |R|CoAi
my Global 5 type is RCOAI, with the notation |R|CoAi giving more information about the relative strength of each dimension.
now that’s not to say there aren’t correlations to MBTI types but correlation does not equal causation and there absolutely are exceptions to the norm. also the Big 5 is NOT testing for cognitive functions, which is what the mbti actually uses (even if hidden behind a 4-letter code).
you can see by this, i am a typical INFJ according to these semi-correlations but just barely—had my Openness scored just a point lower i’d be on the fence between RCOAI and RCOAN (the latter of which is correlated with ISFJ). in mbti though, ISFJs have a completely different perceiving axis than me: they use the Ne/Si axis and lead with dominant Si.
that said, i’ll tell you how your ““type”” is calculated on 16personalities.
how 16personalities calculates type
i’ve consistently gotten INFJ-A on 16personalities but that’s because i’m RCOAI. i am indeed an actual INFJ in the NiFeTiSe sense as well, verified by understanding the cognitive functions, and it is merely coincidence.
this is how they score it. ready?
I / E = Extraversion score
S / N = Openness score
T / F = Agreeableness score
P / J = Conscientiousness score
-A / -T = Neuroticism score (tacked on because of course the fuck it is)
so you wanna know how and why so many INFPs (actually FiNeSiTes) test as “INFJs” on that site? it’s when they score high on Conscientiousness (so in the Global 5, instead of Unorganized its Organized).
RxUAI is normally correlated with INFP but RxOAI is normally correlated with INFJ.
that means there is just one dimension that separates the INFP and INFJ result on 16personalities. and the implications are fucking awful. using the MBTI 4 letter dichotomy for a Big 5 test is such a bad move i cant even BEGIN to describe why, but that’s partially why i made this blog in the first place— to rip apart typology myths that are fundamentally wrong or flawed while also offering explanations as to why (and hopefully getting more people to understand it correctly and pass on valid information).
in reality, INFJs and INFPs share absolutely nothing in common functions-wise.
an INFJ’s dominant-inferior axis is one of perceiving (Ni/Se) and their balanced auxiliary-tertiary axis is their judging (Fe/Ti). Ni(Fe-Ti)Se.
an INFP’s dominant-inferior axis is one of judging (Fi/Te) and their balanced auxiliary-tertiary axis is their perceiving (Ne/Si). Fi(Ne-Si)Te.
so what is MBTI then actually??
the MBTI and cognitive functions are not setting out to describe personality traits. they are describing patterns of cognition as feedback between two parts of the same process (the function axes), like systole and diastole of the heart, or a walk cycle with your two legs driving you forward. cognitive functions are not concerned with boxing people in to define motivations or disposition, it just tells how information is assembled and processed in the psyche. this has real value in examining and analyzing why and how people process and discern information the way they do, and how to understand oneself and each other in a deeper way using shared descriptors for how we perceive and judge information. it is especially helpful for me as someone who perceives things deeply but has trouble making sense of those experiences without the semantics to understand and to articulate them. it’s not a tool to box you in, but a tool to explain what already exists. it’s a lot more flexible than you think.
one’s cognition can be split into two divisions: Perception and Judging.
the role of Perception in the psyche is the incidental synthesis of information without discriminating, and the role of Judgment is to differentiate between information sources and organize that information into definite concepts and discrete ideas. this article explains it well.
everyone does both. however, people will have more of a focus on either Judgement or Perception, finding the most compelling sense of “truth” from one of these divisions over the other.
to an INFJ, an ultimate sense of truth is found in their Perception processes (Ni and Se), and their Judgement processes (Fe and Ti) serve to rationalize/make sense of those perceptions.
to an INFP, an ultimate sense of truth is found in their Judgement processes (Fi and Te), and their Perception processes (Ne and Si) serve to contextualize those judgements.
that is why the axes (the dominant-inferior and auxiliary-tertiary) are formed, and why the placement of these functions matter, because they will manifest differently depending on where they are and what “role” they play in the functional stack.
mbti cognitive function test (grant/brownsword)
A Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) based cognitive function test centered around the work of Harold Grant, Alan Brownsword, Myers & Jung,
Sakinorva test results!