Hi, could you possibly fill me in on 'syscourse' or like direct me to some posts that could if u dont want to??
@firedrake @polyfragged @endo-killer and @pluralphobic all can explain it better (and firedrake has a page here) but we’ll try to explain what we can here.
So pretty much syscourse is us with DID and OSDD fighting against “natural systems”, as they steal our terms, our resources, and our spaces.
Now, there is only one way to have a system, and that is through either DID or OSDD, which can only develop before the age of nine because of repeated childhood trauma. What happens is that the children’s mind splits and a new personality is created, usually to help deal with whatever the trauma is (usually abuse).
Now these other “systems” say they also “systems”, but they have no trauma.
They say their “system mates” can hop into other people’s minds.
They say that they’re actually possessed by spirits but then get angry when people repeat it back to them; they’ll talk about how it’s unfair that people say they’re possessed (which…they don’t. Actual people with DID, OSDD, and schizophrenia deal with that the most, especially if they grow up around religion, like I did) but talk about how them having spirits inside them makes them a system.
They say that they’re from the distant past, claiming they have trauma from past lives (such as the cold war or during the black plague; this is separate from Alters believing they’re from the past because of trauma).
They appropriated the term ‘tupla’ from Buddhism, pretending that imaginary friends are actually sentient beings. I’ve seen some pretend they’re a bunch of Sans from different Aus.
They say that they’re actually not from this universe/are from another/their “systemmates” are from another universe and therefore count (again, this is different from people with DID and OSDD having Alters who believe that because of trauma)
Soulbounds are literally people who are like “hey we’re going to let a spirit be in my body lol I’m a system”.
They say they aren’t disordered but claim us gatekeeping them is ableism.
The “evidence” they show are either from really shitty forums (one that is most referenced is literally from a forum that was made via hatred for those with DID and OSDD), make no sense (saying that the guy who played Spock was actually a system), pull up links that are specifically about DID or OSDD and claim it isn’t, or link things that read as schizophrenia or borderline personality disorder.
They tell us to show evidence on why they don’t exist but then refuse to listen. The large majority of us believe that these “systems” either actually have DID or OSDD and don’t remember their trauma, having borderline personality disorder, could be schizophrenic, or have another mental illness. They are mentally ill, and the fact that they claim they’re not but cry “ableism” because we don’t want them stealing our stuff is hypocritical.
@firedrake even made a poll to see if DID and OSDD systems think “naturals/endos” could use our terms and wow did a bunch of us not like those people stealing our terms.
So imagine that you’re someone who has gone through hell as a child; maybe you were raped again and again, maybe you were forced into rituals, maybe you were in-and-out in the hospital so often and pumped full of medication, and because of that your brain splits into more people because you’re hurting and you feel like dying and this is the last thing your brain wants to do.
Imagine losing time. Forgetting who you are. Not knowing where you are. Waking up with things that weren’t there before, with hours, days, hell even weeks gone by that you have no recollection of. Hearing voices in your head, this feeling of fear in your veins, the sense of something bad happened. Imagine people believing you are possessed, claiming the devil has you in his grasps, and try to beat it out of you. Imagine everything in your life being nothing more than a window shattered in a million pieces.
Now imagine that some person who believes they’re three different versions of Sans from Undertale and has no trauma and finds the idea of having a “system” fun comes up to you, says you’re ableist for not liking them, steals the doctor you were hoping to go see, all while saying they’re not mentally ill.
That’s why syscourse exists. The hell we went through as a child created us, and now these people who have no idea what it’s like steal our stuff and throw us under the rug.
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