I'm just your normal Tumblr user-Feral. An Alastor lover through and through, because he's just SO ✨babygirl✨ I make ugly art and post it here,for I too have no life. She/Her Not giving my age to y'all cause...No..
So, did anyone else worry there for a minute when they blew up the weapon?? I thought they'd made Lucifer explode, I was like "wait, was he inside there??" until he showed up again
What even happened to him btw?? This is the last we see of him there
We then see Charlie and Vaggi talking to the other sinners
But like, what happened to Lucifer in-between? Was he laying on the floor or something?? He definitely didn't seem like he had enough energy to portal himself out
This is like what happened to Alastor after the battle in season 1,and now it's happening to Lucifer because his dear daughter simply can't bring herself to check up on her folk.
I love Charlie so dearly,but this girl needs a goddamn reality check.
It's giving "I am So Fucking Tired I slept in a God Damn Office Chair for a Bloody Week and had to Manipulate Mansplain Manwife my way through Three Fucking Deals and a Throuple Therapy in a spawn of one week just to get my Stupid Fucking Stick fixed I am so Fucking Ready to take every classical substance known to a 30s man and Black The Fuck Out for at least A Month I literally Never want to hear Any Word beginning with a V ever again."
To be honest im a little frustrated that Charlie went through the whole season and just automatically became the head counsellor.
She has no training, no skills, and not the temperament for it. Im genuinely concerned about the harm she can cause with her do gooder attitudw.
Its not ral life but like, a self taught therapist (eg someone who googled a few questions and thinks they have their shit together enough to life coach without formal training or overaight) can cause more harm than simply avoiding therapy.
She hasnt changed in any real way since season 1, if you look at her progression. Everyone around her made different but profound changes based on what they lived through and the choices they made.
Like, charlie needs to jave a moment of clarity where she realises shes in over her head and then Do Something About It. Like reach out to aunty bel in sloth, a realm of healers and therapists for guidance
Or even just read counselling for dummies
Or bartering for some hellborn certified psychiatrists and at least one doctor...
She just keeps pinging off into more desperate schemes and never seems to learn from them.
Like, season 1 she didnt actually learn anything from the valentino encounter at all. She just was sad she upset angel and cried about it. She didnt examine the whys...
And when she got a hint of the idea redemption was real, she just tried to force everyone else through the same mould. She still straight up hasnt examined the idea that sinners are complex people with whole lives that twisted into a decision or action or inaction that dropped them to hell
Could she know about pentious' sin and reason for redemption? No.
But its frustrating that she still treats those around her as something she can just throw optimism at, until it works. Its just that, given she hasnt really changed and we see she is still fundamentally selfish at the core*, the last ep with a filled to the rafters hotel doesnt seem like a good thing?
She is overpromising again, claiming to be a counsellor and lets be real, she'll likely end up doing trust falls and sharing circles and then growing manic as the results dont magically occur
Should she be treated like a terrible character? No. Female characters should also get to be infuriating, naive, selfish, stupid, rude, borderline manic from dleep deprivation, etc. Without it being demonised because woman or nb. They need to be fleshed out too
But overall, its frustrating that everything is so Wonderful and Bright at the end of s2
Because its not. In fact, i honestly think shes more of a mirror to vox than alastor us.
Like, her status was given at birth, that cant be denied and Her power is inherently in her. Not unlike being born a white man in the 50s.
It leaves her blind to a lot of things in the world, to the nuances. She just assumes her way is best... not unlike vox.
Her successes rest on the backs of those around her.
Vaggi standing by her and behind her. Sword and shield and manager and girlfriend. Carrying her emotional and physical burdens for charlie by nearly breaking her own back.
Vaggi connected to carmilla.
And charlie immediately threw everything in her face because vaggi felt scared to share her most carefully guarded secret. And really, if you think about it, when IS a good time to drop that bomb?
Alastor brought husk and niffty, he brought in the info re the steel, connected her to rosie, likely got backlash from the other overlords for the whole hotel thing and defs got shade from the king, fought adam, shielded the hotel and then all.of s2. Charlie showed no interest in looking for him or checking in.
She unconsciously sees people as their role, which is sort of a royal thing but also a priviledged mindset. Of course it rankled like hell when she dismissed him.
And even in the big s2 battle she ignored him bleeding in the durt; not to mention how she ignored her dad...
Husk carried a lot of the emotional baggage for charlie, and the hotel and actively counselled more than her. Henput himself on the line for the hotel.
Niffty literally keeps the place functional and free from bugs, which likely includes.mechanical ones. Charlies hotel was a fucking disaster when she started but razzle and dazzle were doing their best... charlie seemed to assume things would just Work Out if she Believed strong enough.
Niffty also killed adam and tried to hekp her on air but charlie rarely ever acknowledges her directly. More half orders and half expects.
When was the last time charlie ever cleaned? Cooked?
How many of the characters have to spend time managing her emotions over their own wellbeing?
I mean like, angel is example number one. Not just the studio disaster and boundary stomping. She pushed and pushed him to cut back on every maladaptive coping mechanism and didnt give him Anything to replace them with while he was still trapped in a nightmare situation she literally cannot understand.
That he shielded her from. In many ways, because angel could see she wasnt strong enough to handle it.
The other sinners saw through that whole flirty slut persona immediately. They saw that it was keeping him some kind of alive.... husk was best suited to call it out. But charlie just felt that group hugs could replace decades of substance abuse to dull the pain
Something we never explored is whether the use of other substances partly subverted valentinos spit and smoke. Something has to. Qhat if that was how je kept control? Even a fraction of himself? Who knows. Never explored but charlie should try.
Angel fought for the hotel knowing he would pay for it. Angel tried as best he could and charlie dropped him so fucking fast in s1 for pentious, and it was horrendous how hurt he was and no one listened. We saw him spiral.
And her scripts were just awful. Like spitting on someone already on the ground. Like wow. I have not forgotten that daytime tv afterschool special written by 4th graders... and calling pentious her first real guest? Yikes
And then he once again tries to protect them all at the end of s2 in the only way he knows how. Just...
And her dad was misguided, hes, but he tried in the only way he could think of to help when the door was cracked open. And the whole pouty baby bullshit bc vaggi and lucifer tried something to help while she was manically moping about? Shes so entitled its infuriating.
*selfish in terms of how this whole endeavour came about. Does she want to help sinners? Sure. To a degree.
But a lot of it is about helping herself, of showing she is worth something. She is following in her mother's footsteps, and trying to bring peace and joy to her father and hopefully be seen by them. Be acknowledged and celebrated.
Is that normal for an emotionally neglected kid to want? Absolutely. However, it makes her act rashly, in conjuction with her frantic need to fix things and run into them headlong, and her obscenely sheltered upbringing.
The best analogy i have is small businesses.
A lot of people go i can say, sew and make soaps, ill set up a shop in the local centre where there are shopfronts available. You pay bond and a few months rent and its a bit expensive but thats the cost of business. You have a few hundred items and that seems enough to start with.
Initially customers flock in because its new and exciting and curiosity is human nature. But attention and sales wane in the first 6 weeks. Sales are not going well and you panic, perhaps making too many of one thing and raising prices in order to make rent but overhead costs are soaring... it drives you out of business in 6 months.
Now, if someone had started small and tested the market and region for the product like a stall at the local markets where you build a cusyomer base and interest. You research the local interest in your offerings, maybe get a business degree or st keast do a basic marketing course to help you understand how to idnetify trends and needs etc.
It doesnt need to be years of study, but even rudimentary research can help. Maybe you try the online market, you learn to look at upfront costs and how long it would take to make a profit, investigate taxes and bulk postage and import laws and negotiating bulk orders for your ingredients or inventory, etc. So if you do eventuate in a shopfront one day, it doesnt fall over or at least not without a fallback to online business.
And thats where charlie fuxked up.
The dream is nice.
The execution was about as successful as the first ten sqings at a pinata after youve been blinfolded and spun around a few times.
Which circles back to the plan for redemption being somewhat selfish wish fulfillment for charlie. Lovely goal, but no prep went into it outside of get old hotel from dad, and buy angel dusts time with lots of money.
We understand the urgency because 7 years of your subjects being slaughtered as you qatch is A Lot for anyone... but if shed slowed down for five minutes and made a bit of a plan, recalled her connections and power, she could have started off strong.
Bels healers.
Goetia who likely were tasked with sinner or heavenly research for centuries - what might they know?
Talking to sinners or having hellborn servants try running surveys with amenable sinners and new arrivals etc
Maybe set up a good place for new arrivals to land and be interviewed while life is fresh in their head?
It could all give clues about where this is going. About how sinners got there. How the manifestations occurred.... how their hellforms tied into their sins, and what redemption might need.
Charlie might have had the chance to see sinners as living creatures and not something she can fix.
Her singlemindedness also matches vox in that she will do anything and (unintentionally in charlies case) step on anyone to get there.
The happy ending of s2 felt unearned
I know that prime cut the hamstrings of the team by requiring it all in 8 eps, and gods the growth we could have had in twice that... or evwn just 10 eps...
But i really am concerned about that head counsellor badge. She really only just capitulated to allow vaggi to officially get recognised for everything she was already doing?
And even then, half of that was alastor and his team doing it that vaggi inherited when al and husk left and niffty dropped the ball to play mad scientist.
I really want to see charlie grow into someone who sees the people around her for who they are, acknowledges their support and reciprocates. Who works to meet the needs of the sinners who come to her hotel, and understand their nuanced experience and how they landed in hell.
Research actual therapy and techniques so she can help others. Or it will all cycle back to a shitshow in s3 and 4.
I just really hoped we'd get a hint of proper growth, but it was all cotton candy at the end of the season and that was frustrating.
What can she offer the sinners now at she didnt have at the beginning if the season?
Thats the question that frustrates me most.
The reason no one wanted to hear her out is the complete lack of sincerity. Oh she thinks shes being sincere and being helpful, but it comes across as condescending when you dont understand.
Like a white person who saw a hashtag wading into race politics they feel they should have a say in. Sure they think theyre helping, but is it more about virtue signalling and fweling morally superior? If you really supported it, they would look into the matter and let voices of the affected and informed come to the forefront.
Another pen doodle. Like a cat, Belos likes chin scratches. Sometimes.
And the hand is Luz's. While they were stuck in the Human Realm post-Day of Unity, she found out that Belos can purr - he did it to comfort her while hugging her, knowing it can help reduce stress, and she loved it. He usually tries to keep this ability secret, but chose to use it to help Luz. He followed his dad/uncle/grandpa instinct of Comfort Sad Kid.
The doodle either takes place around present day, where he's more comfortable letting the people close to him do this, or it took place in the Human Realm, and the reason he's making the kitty face is because his face just Does That when someone scratches his chin, at least sometimes.
Either way, he's sitting down and she's standing, hence the angle of her arm. Also he should've probably had dark circles under his eyes, definitely so if this took place in the Human Realm, but I don't wanna add them and retake the picture.
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