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Hello there!! I did these portraits from every year Snape was on Hogwarts He was a baby
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The reason Severus Snape takes so long to speak is because he’s trying not to swear, pass it on.
the snape being sexist headcanons are genuinely hilarious because theres nothing in canon to support them but on the other hand you have the marauders, one who threatens a girl to date him and sees her like a prize to win, one with severe mommy issues, who keeps ignoring and cutting off hermione whenever she talks sense, who beefs with mrs weasley acting like she doesnt have an entire family shes worried about, and one who ditches his pregnant wife. But theyre the woke feminists...right.
Right? Isn't it funny how much overlap there is between:
- fans who claim that the guy who was best friends with a girl for years, who made a nickname for himself out of his mother's maiden name, who had a specifically female patronus, and who pulled through what happened in the chapter Spinner's End with dignity, was a raging misogynist
And
- fans who claim that the group of traditionally masculine, sporty bros who were popular kids in the 70s, are known to emasculate and bully boys who they see as beneath them and one of whom tried to harass a girl into going on a date with him while another got cold feet and almost abandoned his pregnant wife, were feminists, the ultimate allies for women and minorities and warriors against toxic masculinity.
...
Really? These are your feminist heroes?
I'm really trying not to come off as too anti-Marauders on Tumblr, I don't hate them as characters, but I'm not going to pretend that the popular "sEnSiTivE fEmiNisT bOis uwu" fanon of them doesn't feel like utter bullshit.
On the other hand I kind of understand why it's such a big thing, because a lot of these fans/fanfic authors seem to be pretty young (as if I'm not 20 haha), and it's obvious that this is the fans/authors projecting their own battles HARD on the characters and the world. If the Marauders are your favorite characters, of course you'll want them to be on your side. You want Sirius and Remus to have been at Stonewall (notice the conspicuous change in country), you want James to be an outspoken warrior against sexist attitudes, you want to see Marauders who are comfortably in touch with their emotions to break down masculine stereotypes, et cetera, because those are the things that you would fight for and want your friends to fight for.
I 100% get it.
But.
As an AFAB, I just genuinely don't buy that the canon Marauders, especially as teenagers, would have been "woke" feminists. In my view, they are like... probably the most accurate representation of (casual) toxic masculinity in the series. And it doesn't make them all bad, especially considering that these books were written in the 90s and reflect the attitudes of those times. In the end, it's just one of the many, many different flaws people can have.
Like for example, there are so many headcanons of the Marauders crossdressing casually, because omg you go kweeeens fuck gender roles. But... canon Remus used crossdressing as a joke, to humiliate a colleague. How woke is it to laugh at a man you forced into women's clothing?
This all isn't to say that Snape is overall less toxic than the Marauders, but his toxicity is not all that gendered in nature, if that's the correct way to say it. His toxicity and bullying doesn't seem to be so much based on gender roles, compared to Sirius and James' - if anything, he seems to kind of resent masculine gender expectations, obviously struggling to fit them himself.
It all comes down to the fact that there is no canon evidence of the Marauders being feminists, while there is canon evidence of Severus NOT being a misogynist. I guess that's why it's so weird that those headcanons are as popular as they are.
Friendly reminder that the marauders are not saints, in fact they were pretty much assholes with huge prejudices :)
Percy Weasley in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Snape swearing like a sailor is one of those things that are not canon but that you can pry out of my cold dead hands.
I mean, it’s basically canon:
- OOtP Ch 26
- OOtP Ch 28
He probably does swear like a sailor in his head.
I saw @foxyx ‘s snape in the sun post (HERE) and could not get this out of my head!! So, please enjoy Snape in an oversized sun hat.
He pulled Harry’s wand from his pocket and began to trace it through the air, writing three shimmering words: TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE. Then he waved the wand once, and the letters of his name rearranged themselves: I AM LORD VOLDEMORT.
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I’m just thinking about how much fanon and fan fiction can change people’s perspectives of actual canon.
As an example, a while ago, I was writing a fic with a sister, and wanted to check and see exactly what Lupin and Sirius said to Harry when he asked them about the memory he saw in the pensieve. It had been a few years since I’d read Order of the Phoenix, and I’d somehow just gotten convinced that Lupin had been very regretful of what his friends had done to Snape, blamed himself for letting it happen, and didn’t try to excuse it or victim blame Snape. And then I actually read it over again, and… it’s not that way. Lupin excuses it. Lupin doesn’t express more than casual, absent regret, and minimizes the entire event, acting like it was just a joke that went too far.
I read what he said and I was actually shocked. I had a completely different idea of Lupin than the one actually presented in canon. My version of Lupin was sincerely sorry for what had happened and took full blame, and was very aware of how horrible his friends had been. And the actual, canon Lupin thought of what had happened as James and Sirius - who were the height of cool - just getting a little bit carried away, that’s all. He didn’t say anything when Sirius made the entire event out to be Snape’s fault and went on about Snape being jealous of James and how he was involved in the dark arts, which James hated (when James in the memory made it clear he was tormenting Snape only because he existed and not because of any affiliation with the dark arts.) Lupin even made it seem like it was fine that James continued to torment Snape up to his seventh year and kept that fact from Lily, because Snape ‘never lost an opportunity’ to curse the boy who tormented him for years and likely stripped him naked in front of a crowd.
I had spent so long writing my own versions of things and consuming fan fiction, that I had literally twisted the story in my mind without even realizing it wasn’t canon. I try to consult the actual text before I defend anything now. But I don’t say anything when people hate Lupin, because I like the twisted, headcanon version I invented that deeply regrets what happened, but I understand that some people didn’t reinvent the character in their head and only went by canon and there’s a lot of things to dislike in canon, or some people just reinvented the character in a different way. And I don’t say anything when people hate Snape, because there’s a lot to dislike in canon, for him, and not everyone reinvented him in their heads like I had, or maybe reinvented him a different way.
But it’s so weird when I see people insisting that liking Snape is just wrong, when many of the reasons they give for hating him are twisted, fanon versions that are just highly popular, who then get angry when people tell them that it isn’t canon. Or sometimes they say that liking Snape is wrong for this or that reason, and then get mad when people tell them that what Snape did is comparable to things the marauders did. There’s not canon evidence that Snape was an incel, but there is canon evidence that James tried to coerce Lily to date him even after she made it clear that she wasn’t interested. Snape mistreated Neville (although you could argue that he did that under his role as a spy, there are lots of people who still can’t get past that or viewed that differently and that’s understandable,) and Lupin didn’t take his wolfsbane and almost murdered three children due to it, and let someone he thought was a serial murderer wander around Hogwarts at will, because he didn’t want to admit his own flaws. Snape shook Harry hard and threw a jar at his head, and Lupin slammed him into the kitchen wall in Deathly Hallows, making Harry feel like he’d been punched. Snape had once been a willing Death Eater who turned spy, but it can’t be denied that he once wanted that position and held those views. Despite canon suggesting he tried to get out of his Death Eater duties, and canon suggesting he changed as a person, Snape having been a Death Eater is understandably very hard for people to get past. But many Snape haters also love Sirius, who died an adult slave owner, who mistreated Kreacher, or many of them love Regulus, who also willingly became a Death Eater and supported those ideals.
Honestly, I’m not trying to say that people can’t like the Marauders and hate Snape, that’s perfectly valid. But it’s just… bizarre, how people will actively go out of their way to ignore the canon things the Marauders have done and will go by only their twisted versions of them, and then pretend it’s canon. And then those same people get angry at Snape fans even when they actively acknowledge the bad things Snape did in canon. They make all these posts about how horrible people are for liking Snape, and get angry when they make posts describing why they hate Snape and they’re told that some of the things they said aren’t canon, they put it in the Snape tags or even the pro Snape tags because ‘Snape fans need to hear it,’ and get mad when they’re asked to use tags people can filter. I get how hard it can be to remember exactly how the books went years later, I get being confused because the idea of the character you have in your head is different than the actual canon character, and I literally thought Lupin was better than he was and would actually get annoyed when people acted like he was a bad person, I can get how weird it can be. And there’s nothing wrong with reading Snape in all these ways, ‘incel, never changed, only did good things for selfish reasons, outside of the norm in his treatment of the students,’ people can feel free to headcanon that. But it just isn’t canon. And I just really, really want the fandom at large to please stop acting like people shouldn’t be allowed to like Snape, when most of the fandom is operating with fanon ideas at this point, and we’re all picking and choosing and going by our own interpretation.
If someone writes a fan fic where Remus is a totally mature and not at all petty person who would never endanger or hurt a teenager, that’s great for them, canon is dead, they’re very valid. If they write a fan fic where Sirius and James were anti-House Elf slavery, were feminist icons, were only Fred and George level pranksters, and only hated Snape for very good reasons, that’s great for them, canon is dead, they’re very valid. If someone writes a fan fic where Snape was heavily coerced into joining the Death Eaters, deeply regretted the way he’d treated Lily, and changed as a person… Eh, that doesn’t go against canon, actually. Let me try again. If someone writes a fan fic where Snape never mistreated his students, acted as a parental figure, and loved Dumbledore, that’s great for them, canon is dead, they’re very valid.
snape: there’s an empty armchair there, in case you don’t know
harry: thanks, I’m comfortable here
Snape is Harry’s adoptive parent.
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Never forget the time when Snape agreed to be Lockhart's "assistant" at the Dueling Club and just fuckin decked him in front of the whole school, like
Seriously. Iconic.
While he did change, I’m pretty sure young Snape was a true believer in blood purity and believed Lily to be some sort of exception.
First, Lily accuses him of calling all muggleborns mudbloods. He doesn’t deny this. When humiliated and looking to hurt Lily, he instinctively reaches for the word mudblood, not other insults like say, bitch. This indicates that the word is a part of his vocabulary. Some may say that he adopted the vocabulary as a means to fit in, but I’m not so sure. Snape isn’t Lupin, he isn’t a coward. He didn’t grow into his bravery, it was something he always had (examples: threatening to sleep outside the Gryffindor common room to apologize to Lily, when he had just been assaulted by 4 Gryffindors, going to Dumbledore to beg for Lily’s life thinking he was going to kill him, etc). And the final, most relevant point in my opinion, is that if Snape wasn’t a true believer, then it makes the whole “do not use that word” scene kind of... pointless? That scene was meant to show how Snape has truly changed his beliefs completely, to the point that he rebukes a portrait for his language, in private for nobody to see. If he was never a blood purist in the first place, then what’s the point?
I would be interested in reading other viewpoints and opinions. However, this is meant to be a thoughtful analysis of Snape. If you hate Snape, then please do not interact, as this isn’t meant to be a bashing post.
Oh, hard agree. I always saw him as a child believing magic > muggle, mostly due to his home life, and taking the leap from that to pureblood > muggleborn after getting into school must have felt... logical, perhaps. Lily's place was rationalized as an exception, because he knew her to be every bit as competent as he was, as magical as he was, and he couldn't wave that away. The changes he went through later had to involve confronting his prejudice, accepting he was wrong and he did, but I fully agree it wasn't something that happened overnight.
these are all good points. i’ve seen people claim that snape couldn’t have been a true blue All-Muggleborns-Are-Scum blood purist due to his own muggle heritage, but imo that argument doesn’t hold water considering the prevalence of internalized bigotry both in real life and in fiction. if anything, teen/young adult snape probably doubled down on the anti-muggleborn sentiment as compensation for his less-than-ideal blood status, and to impress his slytherin housemates who likely saw him as inherently suspect due to his class and lack of a presitigious magical pedigree. i like to imagine that even in his darkest death eater days he still knew someplace very, very deep down that his beliefs were hateful and immoral— because snape is a character who has consistently demonstrated that he has a conscience, outer nastiness notwithstanding— but i also think that it took him a lot of time and work to unlearn his anti-muggleborn prejudice.
I wonder if Snape, with the logic of a young person not understanding the depth and menace of prejudice, might have thought that blood-purity beliefs were actually complimentary because they made Lily exceptional?
I mean, he clearly does not view Lily as inferior or lacking intelligence, talent, or magical power. He, like Slughorn, likely views her as something like “the brightest witch of her age.” And, moreover, what status he does have in Slytherin, perhaps even Lucius Malfoy’s patronage, comes despite his mixed parentage, and he might have been praised for rising above his pedestrian origins. Class is a funny thing, malleable enough for exceptions when it’s profitable to make them, and if Severus-the-halfblood is “practically as good as a pureblood” for his talents, then why should not Lily-the-muggleborn be even more spectacular for being in his league despite being of even lower birth?
It’s just that the scorn applied to the lower orders is conveniently right there when you’re mad and want to rage at someone for overstepping to soothe your own hurt feelings, or when you’re vulnerable and want to retreat to every form of security you can access.
Snape’s security here is being Slytherin, and halfblood, and Slytherin identity is much tied up in blood-purism, and James, his actual tormentor, is not vulnerable to blood-purity insults, so instead Snape turns his only weapon on the person present who is. He grabs the one bit of power and dignity and security readily accessible to him and, desperate to wield it, turns it on the person it will work on.
It’s a sort of a collateral damage, and sort of like how a person helping a panicked or angry animal escape from a trap or a fight will likely get their hands shredded for the effort.
And then afterwards, he doesn’t understand, readily, how that’s a dealbreaker for her. He is genuinely confused when she doesn’t find exceptionalism as valuable as he does, or as secure* as he does, or as complimentary as he does.
*Actually, I wonder if that is what’s behind his choices in regards to his appearance in adulthood: that if he leaves something deliberately, objectively wrong with himself, he can blame that for any disdain directed at him, from nearly any source. If he’s not high in pureblood circles, it’s not because he’s a halfblood of inferior worth, it’s because he’s greasy/sallow/ugly; he can point to a reason he “deserves” it, and his level of acceptability as a half-blood is left unchallenged, when otherwise he might run into the reality he might not really be good enough for, or accepted by, the people to whom he’s given his loyalty.
I find it of particular interest that, later on in life, he tries particularly hard to dissuade Harry from reading too much into the idea that he is exceptional---almost as though he’s someone who’s learned the hard way that “exceptional” isn’t the grand boon someone offered it might expect it to be.
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It’s not just what characters say that I find interesting, but how they say it.
With that in mind, I keep thinking about two of Lupin’s comments from Prisoner of Azkaban, which seem to parallel each other neatly.
We were in the same year, you know, and we — er — didn’t like each other very much. He especially disliked James. Jealous, I think, of James’s talent on the Quidditch field…
And:
That was the final straw for Severus. I think the loss of the Order of Merlin hit him hard. So he — er — accidentally let slip that I am a werewolf this morning at breakfast.
The first thing that fascinates me is the use of ‘er’.
We know that ‘didn’t like each other very much’ is a downplaying of the animosity between Snape and the Marauders, whilst ‘accidentally let slip’ appears to be a downplay of what presumably eventuated (that Snape purposely told people).
I think it clearly establishes a tell - that when Lupin pauses, he’s going to understate.
The second thing that fascinates me are Lupin’s two theories - his two statements of, “I think.”
‘Jealous, I think, of James’ talent on the Quidditch field’.
‘I think the loss of the Order of Merlin hit him hard.’
So, if we accept that ‘er’ is a tell, then ‘I think’ seems to be a similar indicator. On both occasions, Lupin deliberately misleads Harry - and in doing so, he minimises Snape’s trauma, whilst reducing his own involvement.
The first reduces the bullying that Snape endured for the apparent crime of ‘existing’ and suggests instead that Snape was at fault for being jealous.
The second reduces Snape’s anguish at believing that he’d finally captured the traitor responsible for Lily’s death and Dumbledore machinating so that the (as Snape thinks) traitor escapes, and instead suggests that Snape was at fault for glory hunting.
As I said, it’s not just what characters say that’s important to analyse, but how they say it.