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howdy! 🌼 i'm ollie, any gender neutral pronouns. this is my UT/DR sideblog 🥧 main: owlsong74

[owlsong74]

this site sucks,

[owlsong74]

tl;dr: i'm logging off of tumblr for the foreseeable future after today. catch me on pillowfort, or, less actively, on bluesky. im also on discord @ owlsong74. rambling below the cut

ive been on this hellsite since 2012, very nearly half of my time on earth, including all of my high school and adult years, and across several major changes in my life. i've made a bunch of friends here, laughed at silly posts, was introduced to many new ideas, pieces of media, cool facts, and different viewpoints i may not have encountered otherwise, and had my idiolect irreversibly altered. the site and the people on it had a major part in making me who i am. it's also still by far the best social media in terms of it's features and format

but man!!! i cant trust this place! the bad changes outpace the good (and to be clear, there have been good changes: more options for search, tags in notes, etc), and time after time staff has shown to be incompetent and bigoted in it's selective use of TOS against particularly trans women. between monday's changes and today's bans, the past few days in particular have been a disaster.

(and im not a main target of their bans, but ever since my blog was deleted by staff a couple years ago for no reason, ive just been quietly waiting for it to happen again and this time stick for good)

there are other places i can find cool posts and memes, and honestly, there are better uses of my time than endlessly refreshing a major social media site anyway.

i have a lot of attachment to this place, so i'm not going to leave completely forever -- i'll probably still poke my head in now and then to check on things and find ancient posts for archival/nostalgia purposes -- but i'm logging out for the immediate future and i dont plan on actively posting anymore. i'm keeping my blogs up so the posts don't disappear into the ether, but i want to give this place the least amount of my time as possible

see you o7

[magpiica]

first and last

[tennas-t-v-time]

This is a very unorganized 5 am thought but its fascinating like. How frequently toby writes about sexism and misogyny but its often done so tastefully and subtly that you don’t ever really notice it, but it’s still so so there. Like I think people view utdr as a series that doesnt have that kind of bigotry when it really really does but its just. Written well.

Like. On a surface level, theres characters who are like. A caricature of a misogynist, like Aaron. He’s a buff guy who tells women they’d be cuter if they smiled and objectifies them. He’s meant to be a joke. And meant to make you go “ew fuck this guy” y’know? Then theres things that’re a little less surface level, like a character we can like who has a little more depth but a massive trait of his is objectifying women, like Cap’n. He’s funny and has other gags and traits, and every time he says something weird his buddy always tells him to knock it off.

We have a median where people start to argue but a good amount can agree on, like Berdly. He frequently objectifies Noelle and speaks over and for her, claiming her work as his own. The second he gains feelings for Susie, he starts referring to her in ways she doesn’t like and objectifying her, too. He’s a teenage boy who’s been dragged into weird internet subcultures and you can only hope he’ll learn better. Hell, his arc isn’t even over yet. He’s a weird kid that is nice to girls one on one, but hasn’t learned to not use the patriarchy to his advantage the second he can.

Then we have characters where, if you point out their sexism, people start to argue. And I get it! If you mark a character as “vaguely sexist”, then that means their problematic and bad. But it really doesn’t- I think it adds to them as characters and is worth dissecting. For example, Spamton is very vaguely sexist. A lot of people disagree with this, and I get why you would- I don’t think hes a “woman hating misogynist”, but his behavior in weird route is very telling of some traits- most importantly and obviously him referring to Noelle as “hot mama” and “side chick”. He’s not gonna tell a woman to go make him a sandwich, but he will call a woman a bitch.

Then theres characters that Toby on purpose wrote as a way to combat sexist tropes. Media is FULL of the “in depth depressed man with a cardboard cutout dead/divorced wife”. So he swapped it around. He made Toriel as in depth as possible, giving her layers upon layers that you can write essays on, and then made Asgore the least explored “main” character in Undertale. In Deltarune, Toriel still gets more spotlight, and Asgore is obsessed with having his “life” back- a picture perfect family, a wife by his side, his job, his kids- exactly what a Man is supposed to be. He’s not a raging misogynist either- he’s soft, he wears pink, he grows flowers for a living and for a hobby. But he objectifies Toriel and tracks her down and confronts her in public spaces so she looks bad if she tries to be firm with her boundaries. This is a fascinating character trait of his- he does it in Undertale, too. He loves the idea of Toriel. Sure, they worked well while they did, but when he lost her, all he could focus on was getting her back instead of doing some introspection.

Idk. I think utdr as a series has some of the best written women ive ever seen and thats kind of heartbreaking to say considering its like. An indie rpg. One of the best there is, sure, but like. Youd think thered be more examples. Idk. I like how toby fox writes women and misogyny as a whole.

[haunted-skitty-doll]

Was gonna put this in the tags but actually I wanna write it out, I think Ruby Holiday is a really good example of this too and I've like never seen anyone talk about it. Like hes nice, sweet, likeable, but he also giggles about introducing himself to Carol by calling her a “hot piece of work” and getting slapped. He plays into the whole “overprotective dad who's gonna make sure his daughter's crush knows not to hurt her” thing. He's just. Someone's dad. Someone's mundane, vaguely misogynistic dad.

[tennas-t-v-time]

ive been meaning to reply to this for a bit but like. EXACTLY!! exactly this i didnt even consider that! like! he wouldnt call a woman a bitch but he for sure refers to them in slightly demeaning ways as a cultural thing, its just part of the world to him and hes trying to joke around. he loves his family dearly when it actually comes down to it but hes for sure like, still upholding some sexist habits. hes like the family member you love dearly and trust with your life but you have to glare at sometimes if they step a little too far with a sexist joke

[tennas-t-v-time]

This is a very unorganized 5 am thought but its fascinating like. How frequently toby writes about sexism and misogyny but its often done so tastefully and subtly that you don’t ever really notice it, but it’s still so so there. Like I think people view utdr as a series that doesnt have that kind of bigotry when it really really does but its just. Written well.

Like. On a surface level, theres characters who are like. A caricature of a misogynist, like Aaron. He’s a buff guy who tells women they’d be cuter if they smiled and objectifies them. He’s meant to be a joke. And meant to make you go “ew fuck this guy” y’know? Then theres things that’re a little less surface level, like a character we can like who has a little more depth but a massive trait of his is objectifying women, like Cap’n. He’s funny and has other gags and traits, and every time he says something weird his buddy always tells him to knock it off.

We have a median where people start to argue but a good amount can agree on, like Berdly. He frequently objectifies Noelle and speaks over and for her, claiming her work as his own. The second he gains feelings for Susie, he starts referring to her in ways she doesn’t like and objectifying her, too. He’s a teenage boy who’s been dragged into weird internet subcultures and you can only hope he’ll learn better. Hell, his arc isn’t even over yet. He’s a weird kid that is nice to girls one on one, but hasn’t learned to not use the patriarchy to his advantage the second he can.

Then we have characters where, if you point out their sexism, people start to argue. And I get it! If you mark a character as “vaguely sexist”, then that means their problematic and bad. But it really doesn’t- I think it adds to them as characters and is worth dissecting. For example, Spamton is very vaguely sexist. A lot of people disagree with this, and I get why you would- I don’t think hes a “woman hating misogynist”, but his behavior in weird route is very telling of some traits- most importantly and obviously him referring to Noelle as “hot mama” and “side chick”. He’s not gonna tell a woman to go make him a sandwich, but he will call a woman a bitch.

Then theres characters that Toby on purpose wrote as a way to combat sexist tropes. Media is FULL of the “in depth depressed man with a cardboard cutout dead/divorced wife”. So he swapped it around. He made Toriel as in depth as possible, giving her layers upon layers that you can write essays on, and then made Asgore the least explored “main” character in Undertale. In Deltarune, Toriel still gets more spotlight, and Asgore is obsessed with having his “life” back- a picture perfect family, a wife by his side, his job, his kids- exactly what a Man is supposed to be. He’s not a raging misogynist either- he’s soft, he wears pink, he grows flowers for a living and for a hobby. But he objectifies Toriel and tracks her down and confronts her in public spaces so she looks bad if she tries to be firm with her boundaries. This is a fascinating character trait of his- he does it in Undertale, too. He loves the idea of Toriel. Sure, they worked well while they did, but when he lost her, all he could focus on was getting her back instead of doing some introspection.

Idk. I think utdr as a series has some of the best written women ive ever seen and thats kind of heartbreaking to say considering its like. An indie rpg. One of the best there is, sure, but like. Youd think thered be more examples. Idk. I like how toby fox writes women and misogyny as a whole.

[bananonbinary]

i really like spamton's sexism cause like, he is very specifically the prevalent and casual objectification and dehumanization imbedded in all of our media. like, those shitty ass phone game ads that show some sexy bimbo cheating on/betraying the poor male mc, or the uggo with leg hair getting a makeover to win him back, or whatever else weird ass fetish animation they like to use? that's spamton. slut shaming. winning the girl. hot singles in your area. he's not even sexist on any ideological level, he is the cold market calculation that saying regressive bullshit gets you attention from people who secretly and not-so-secretly agree, AND gets a lot of rage clicks from everyone else.

[tennas-t-v-time]

Ill be honest i was trying to find a reaction meme of an anime girl smiling tearfully in pure joy at this reply as a joke to show how relieved i was that someone replied about spamton Without trying to defend him bc I was just talking to my friends abt how i was expecting people to do that on my 5 am rant but i cant find a suiting or funny enough image so just imagine it okay thank you for awesome words plus the world is beautiful

This analysis is so freaking awesome you get. A coupon

[dio1snotajojoreference]

I wholeheartedly agree that his dynamic with Queen is pretty sexist in nature (iirc he calls her a “smoking hot ass” in his Q&A about Swatch, again the sexual & objectifying thing) and from a fanon perspective I always enjoy seeing iterations of the “misogynistic character gets called out for it” in Spamtenna fics. I’ve seen some even pair it with the common hc of Spamton being transmasc which I personally resonate with as a dude that had to relearn being comfortable in fem settings. I think the more he’s allowed to be portrayed as A Guy Who Sucks the more interesting and real of a character he feels than just a woobie victim of circumstance that we know he’s not

(Also Noelle’s subversion of the Girl Next Door trope is an excellent pairing with Berdly’s behavior of treating her as a helpless objectified damsel for this whole thing, with the fact she’s perceived as a purely innocent nice kid and yet it’s such a mask that her dark world theme is internally referred to as her normal theme rather than the theme named after the trope. Like the misreading of her as a generic kind character is literally part of the mistake that Berdly makes in his understanding of her. And that’s fascinating to me. She puts on that mask for personal reasons and it contributes to people misunderstanding her but it’s not treated as a bad thing or like it’s “her fault” that Berdly’s weird towards her because of it)

[krispdreemurr]

i think people forget Undertale ends with you fighting a rainbow goat w the power of friendship. like yes Deltarune seems to have much lower lows than Undertale but I do not think it is a game about how hope is meaningless.

[owlsong74]

i guess this is the semi-annual offering of pillowfort invite codes, which lets you skip the wait (which may or may not be a thing atm. from what i understand, there usually isn't one, but there might a queue today due to demand). leave a reply or send me a message if you want one

note that pillowfort does not have reblog chains (they value the ability to prevent unwanted hijacking of posts more). however, you will at least be able to see all comments, reblogs, and likes you have gotten, which can't be said now of tumblr

also, wafrn exists. it wasn't for me last time i tried it, but they do have tumblr-like reblog chains

[lost-in-waterfall-again]

also also, if you are a UTDR fan, you might enjoy posting on the deltarune unofficial message boards

[pespillo]

my girl we manifesting plot relevancy for you in 2026 TRUST N BELIEVE

[lightbluesleeper]

yoshi’s (forgotten) island

[meg00se]

"Spam Hunt" - Published by TV Time Inc. for the NES (1984) Released at the peak of the home console's popularity, "Spam Hunt" was sold alongside the TV Zapper - a gun shaped controller originally created for this title, but would continue to see use in future TV Time games such as "The Lonesome Cowboy" and "Cooking with Guns". With time "Spam Hunt" has become an infamous collector's item, as it's many glitches made the full game unbeatable as well as attracted a cult following around it's many secrets. In late 1997, any copies still commercially available (including secondhand copies) were recalled for unknown reasons, gathered by the hundreds, and quickly incinerated. Any collectors looking to obtain "Spam Hunt" should be warned that playing the game for long periods of time has lead some to experience strange symptoms such as vivid hallucinations, hot flashes, nose bleeds, delusions of grandeur, irritable bowels, and seizures.

[officialspec]

i miss my kids

[frootaye]

NEED everyone to see berdly's incredibly in-character stupidly long wrestler intro from joel's vinewrestle deltawrestle special

[frootaye]

UPDATE: IT WASNT EVEN A PLANNED BIT??? THIS WAS JUST. THE UNIVERSE.

[lost-in-waterfall-again]

New icon =)

The Woshua icon was always meant to be temporary. I just never got around to making a new one until now lol

[catinabed]

Weird birds.

[friendlyfrankenstein]

"Berdsong", alt, "1/128 Smile".

Mixed media, crayon plus pixel edits plus regular photo manipulation, then a bunch of cutting things out and staring at them. About rare drops and classic games.

these kids goofy as hell. ✨💙❤️💚

Materials courtesy of starmen.net 's guide+maps, wikipedia's bird vocalization page, the demirramon undertale text generator, spriters resource (school interior daytime ripped by Sparku_ ), and mother4ever.net for the very cool japanese Mother 2 instruction manual scan i got those pages from. ✌️✨

You know how it is. Like. You're not friends. But when one of you is missing from class the other one notices, you know...?

[fishbrainns]

what’s the bark bark equivalent to a fish

[tomatevermelho200]

*i gave he r little gloves 💛

[lost-in-waterfall-again]

@charafansmile

#World most uncomfortable double date. You your girlfriend your girlfriends girlfriend and your girlfriends girlfriends boyfriend who calls #you undies

lol yessss. they made the mistake of going on a date with all four of them once (1) and never again. they didn't even need to talk about it, it's just understood now that if sans is coming along with alphys and toriel to a movie, undyne won't, and if undyne is taking alphys and toriel to the aquarium, sans will stay home and watch tv

honestly, even then, it still isnt as uncomfortable as when asgore shows up to an event with all of them there (tfw your girlfriend's girlfriend is bitterly divorced with your father figure whom you deeply admire)

#If sans was a woman i might be able to get sansdyne but hes one of few characters I can't imagine the possibility of being so

i've thought a lot about woman!sans and honestly i dont think that's enough to make sansdyne viable lol. they are just that incompatible with each other (at least, in my eyes)